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Every couple of weeks Jen and Brandy dive deep into a new unexpected subject.

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Painting Through Pain

Painting Through Pain

2026-03-1142:05

Join us as Carly shares candid memories from her New Mexico childhood, the hard and tender moments that shaped her, and how she channels emotion into ink and watercolor. We talk state-championship bowling, family struggles, moving across the country, finding community, and the small wonders—like hydrangeas and a praying mantis—that inspire her art and help her hold both grief and joy.
Ella Vandergriff joins the hosts to share her experience living with chronic illness and celiac disease. She discusses her diagnosis, surgeries, and the long journey of coping with persistent pain. The conversation explores how small rituals plus rest, humor, and touch help Ella find agency, joy, and resilience, as well as practical ways to enter someone else's pain, and how vulnerability and intentional self-care can create space for healing and connection.
The Hope Dealer

The Hope Dealer

2026-01-2450:14

Join Jen and Brandy as they welcome Steve Beck — the “Hope Dealer” — whose years of peacemaking reveal how to hold joy and pain at once. Steve explains his work helping people and leaders solve conflict by reintroducing hope, focusing on a shared vision of the future, and create healthier workplaces that bring dignity and beauty back into everyday life. He also shares personal lessons from setbacks, mentorship, and choosing an empowered stance of responsibility.
Driving With Pain

Driving With Pain

2026-01-0547:20

Cecil Davis joins for Part 2 of an open, honest conversation about living with intense anxiety, how physical health can mimic panic, and the slow work of recovery. They talk day-to-day coping —"driving with pain", therapy, faith, family roots, and the small steps that become victories.
Hosts Brandy and Jen sit down for a candid episode about living with ongoing pain, changing faith, and the unexpected ways storytelling has brought healing and community. They invite listeners into honesty, compassion, and the hope of shared experience.
Nothing But Bones

Nothing But Bones

2025-10-2837:07

In this episode, Sarah shares her experience growing up in a high-control religious group, the painful decision to leave, and the impact that choice had on her family and sense of belonging. She discusses the weaponization of faith, the loss and healing that followed, and how she learned to reclaim identity, joy, and everyday pleasures like friendships, family moments, and simple Sunday mornings.
Join your hosts and guest Chris Horne for a warm, candid episode about music, memory, and making sense of life. From the healing ritual of listening to Garth Brooks' "The Dance" to revisiting formative places, Chris shares stories of identity, the challenges and joys of parenting, and the power of showing up for others.
Lisa and the Amygdala

Lisa and the Amygdala

2025-08-3137:38

In this episode Lisa joins the hosts at a cozy bar to explore the amygdala — how it drives fight, flight, freeze, and fawn responses, how trauma shapes our nervous system, and how relationships and small practices can help us heal.
Jen and Brandy enjoy a heartfelt conversation with their friend Ashley, who shares her journey from Harlem and Brooklyn through foster care, her mother’s struggle with addiction, a pivotal moment of truth that rebuilt their bond, and the grief and resilience that followed. This episode explores themes of forgiveness, motherhood, and healing, offering an honest, moving look at how love endures amid pain and how we carry our parents’ lessons forward.
Collapsing Sun

Collapsing Sun

2025-07-2752:38

In this episode of a Heavy Pour with Jen and Brandy, we sit down with Jen Sanders to delve into the rollercoaster of her life journey, marked by both beauty and unexpected tragedy. Brandy is joined by fellow storyteller Julie, and they explore Jen's experiences with personal grief and the profound effects of her husband's death. Listen as Jen courageously shares her story of loss, resilience, and the power of community support. From the raw moments following her husband's passing to her reflections on life in the present, Jen offers poignant insights into the complexities of grief and the nuances of healing. Discover how Jen found solace in unexpected places, including a serendipitous conversation with a social security worker and the surprising comfort of a dark comedy film. Learn how grief became an unwelcome yet transformative guest in her home and the ways she continues to embrace joy through dance and the unwavering support of friends. This is a powerful narrative of facing life's monumental challenges head-on and dancing through the darkness towards hope.
It's My Anxiety

It's My Anxiety

2025-07-1147:36

Welcome back to A Heavy Pour of Jen and Brandy, where we invite you to join us in a honest discussion about life's joys and griefs over a pour of your favorite drink. In this episode, we tackle the heavy topic of anxiety with our guest, Cecil Davis. Cecil shares his personal journey through anxiety, from the initial experience fifteen years ago through the challenges of present day. Discover how anxiety intertwined with Cecil's daily life, affecting everything from driving to flying, and learn about the coping strategies and therapeutic interventions he explored. Despite the challenges, Cecil's faith and friendships provide a beacon of hope, as does the humor and humanity we find in our shared stories. Join us in this raw and honest conversation about mental health, resilience, and finding beauty amidst the struggles.
Our First Guest

Our First Guest

2025-06-2934:48

In this episode, join us with a drink as we explore the intricate dance of joy and grief with our guest, Jeanie. Jeanie candidly shares her profound journey of recovery from alcoholism, a path that required her to confront not only her addiction but also the deeply buried pain of losing loved ones and physical struggles. Her story reveals the power of community, vulnerability, and the courage it takes to embrace life's twists and turns rather than avoiding them. As she opens up about the challenges and triumphs of her sobriety, Jeannie provides a source of empathy and understanding for those who may be walking a similar path or know someone who is. Discover the strength found in fellowship and the importance of facing life head-on, as Jeannie reminds us that while life doesn't always happen to us, it certainly continues. Cheers to courage, resilience, and finding true connection.
Welcome to our heartfelt podcast journey where we explore life's unexpected detours, embracing both the beauty and the grief they bring. In this episode, Brandy and Jen invite you to share in their personal stories of navigating profound loss and healing, often finding solace in surprising places. Join us as we discuss the power of community, the healing nature of dance, and the unexpected friendships formed in bars. Through heartfelt conversations, explore how shared experiences can turn sorrow into strength, and how dance floors and cocktail bars become sanctuaries for holding both tears and laughter. Together, we'll delve into the richness of life's complexities, learning to hold joy alongside pain, much like a heavy pour of brandy or gin shared among friends. Whether you're sipping a drink or not, we hope to bring you to a space of belonging, understanding, and hope. Cheers to navigating life together!
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