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Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. Every week, host Ryan Hogan sits down with a different EOS implementer to discuss their unique stories about the companies they have transformed. So make sure to listen to get a rare glimpse into the successes and challenges of the system in action.

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Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Katie Koester, an EOS Implementer, who shares how embracing the natural seasons of work and rest helped her build a healthier rhythm for growth. From redefining work life balance to weaving hobbies and clarity breaks into her routine, she explains how resilience, self awareness, and intentional planning create space for both high performance and genuine well being. Hear how managing expectations, tracking personal goals, and aligning energy with purpose can transform the way you work and live.   04:56 Athletics, Farm Life, and Mindset 16:02 Overcoming Workaholism and Embracing Flexibility 19:10 A Woman in IT and Construction 25:04 The Importance of Hobbies and Clarity 32:30 Defining Balance and Managing Time 44:03 Seasons of Entrepreneurship and Rest 49:52 Performance vs. Perception 51:19 Client Success & In-Person Facilitation   Episode Resources   Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/katie-koester/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiekoestereos/ Email: katie.koester@eosworldwide.com
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let's dive in!   In Episode 40, Alex Hodgkin, an expert EOS Implementer, breaks down the growing world of Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (ETA). Together they explore buying and operating an existing small to medium-sized business instead of starting from scratch. Alex shares practical insight into what makes an acquisition successful and why many deals struggle due to leadership misalignment and lack of operational clarity.   1:45 Alex's Background 8:46 Defining ETA 14:50 Addressing Business Ceilings 21:26 Challenges and Dynamics in ETA 39:51 Implementing EOS in ETA 47:45 Alex's Current Role and Client Focus   Episode Resources *Email: alex.hodgkin@eosworldwide.com *Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/alex-hodgkin/
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let's dive in!   In Episode 39, we sit down with Dale Williams,  an expert EOS Implementer, to break down what it really takes to lead a company through change  and build something that actually lasts. From major business pivots to technological disruption like AI, Dale shares why alignment matters more than direction, and why fostering conviction within your core leadership team is the difference between chaos and momentum. If you're navigating growth, considering a pivot, implementing EOS, or trying to scale without losing alignment, this conversation delivers practical frameworks you can apply immediately.   4:00 The Masochistic Love of Structure 6:27 Running from Burning Buildings 12:49 Discernment and Professional Filters 17:27 Adapting to New Realities 22:00 Navigating Inflection Points with EOS 29:50 Capitalizing on Waves 38:18 Team Alignment and Interrogatory Skills 46:50 Hiring Internal vs External 57:08 Connecting with Dale Williams   Show Links Talent Harbor:https://talentharbor.com LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanehogan/   Guest Links Linkedin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dalecwilliams/ Email: dale.williams@eosworldwide.com  EOS Worldwide: eosworldwide.com
Check out our exciting new show Confessions of a Vistage Chair, a podcast by Talent Harbor, where we have real, behind-the-scenes conversations with Vistage Chairs. They share honest stories and practical insights on leadership growth, peer advisory groups, and what actually happens in Vistage meetings.   Let’s pull back the curtain!   In this episode of Confessions of a Vistage Chair, I sit down with someone who had a major impact on my leadership journey, my first Vistage Chair, Master Chair Ed Robinson.   Ed became a Vistage Chair at a young age and has always been wired for leadership. We talk about what separates great leaders, building connections over division, inspiring others to rise, and creating win-win environments. We also dive into navigating today’s noise with curiosity, courage, and clarity, and how to use Vistage to grow, not box yourself in.   If you're serious about becoming a stronger, more future-focused leader, this conversation is for you. Timestamps  3:43 Discovering Vistage and Its Impact 10:17: Leadership: Unleashing Potential 22:52 Confronting Fear and Distilling Information 32:24 Things that Guide and Ground you 41:55 Overcoming Adversity: Randy Pausch's Influence 49:11 Navigating AI and Technological Change 54:12 Leadership: Operating in Three Horizons 59:52 Advice for Young Chairs: Be Yourself Guest Links Email: Edward.Robinson@vistagechair.com Website: https://capacity-building.com/ Vistage Website: https://app.vistage.com/sites/s/chairs/0038000000slKJeAAM/edward-robinson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edrobinson/ Blog: https://capacity-building.com/ed-robinson-blog/
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let's dive in!   Continuing last week's conversation with Ned Tomasevic, we dive deeper into the personal cost of leadership and what it really takes to lead well. Ned reflects on paying the price of leadership, finding purpose after major career transitions, and the importance of self-reflection after exits and high-stakes roles. We explore how leaders can keep ego in check, stay connected to their “why,” and use EOS as an operating system to align teams, build culture, and support new CEOs, especially in private equity, search fund, and growth-stage environments. This episode is a must-listen for EOS Implementers and operators navigating leadership, identity, and long-term impact.   3:00 Post-Exit Reflection & New Calling 12:12 The Power of Journaling 19:38 Search Fund Investments: Risks and Rewards 38:43 Finding Your Ideal Business 44:40 The Role of the Board 52:21 Values and Leadership Transition 1:01:48 The Importance of 'Your Why'   Show Links   Talent Harbor: https://talentharbor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanehogan/   Guest Links   Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ned-tomasevic-6587901/ EOS Worldwide: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/ned-tomasevic/ Website: https://www.searchers.fund/ 
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed, giving you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.  Let’s dive in! In this episode, I sit down with Ned Tomasevic, an EOS Implementer with deep experience in private equity, search funds, and operating businesses. We talk about what leadership really looks like when the stakes are high. Ned shares lessons from distressed companies, investor-backed turnarounds, and stepping into the operator seat for the first time. We dig into motivation, core values, decision-making under pressure, and why leadership is always a human experience, not just a financial one. If you work with EOS companies navigating growth, ownership changes, or private equity involvement, this conversation offers honest insight from someone who has lived it. Let’s dive in. Episode Resources:  Microsite: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/ned-tomasevic/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ned-tomasevic-6587901/ Timestamps 00:00 From Banking to Private Equity 05:39 The Reality of Private Equity 09:26 Distressed Investing: Risks & Returns 15:56 PE Fund Decision-Making & Oversight 19:04 Entrepreneurial Roots & Career Path 23:29 The Allure of Search Funds 33:18 How Search Funds Work 36:42 The Art of Sourcing Deals 41:12 Raising Capital and Deal Sourcing 43:04 The Solo Searcher Experience 45:14 The Search Timeline and Investor Returns 46:50 Acquiring Easy Shipper Racks 49:43 Reframing the ‘Flip’ in Search Funds 53:16 Motivating Leadership Teams 01:00:09 Company Values and Culture 01:03:47 Living and Breathing Core Values   Show Links   Talent Harbor: https://talentharbor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanehogan/   Guest Links   Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ned-tomasevic-6587901/ EOS Worldwide: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/ned-tomasevic/ Website: https://www.searchers.fund/ 
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed, giving you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.    Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Kris Snyder, an EOS Implementor and lifelong entrepreneur, who shares how a “I’m going to do it and learn from it” mindset shaped his confidence, curiosity, and ability to spot patterns across business. From developing a deep curiosity across finance, sales, marketing, and software to learning when to listen to customers and when to protect the integrity of the system, Kris explains why consistent progress matters more than perfection. Hear how embracing AI, shifting from teaching to true facilitation, and preparing for changing market dynamics are reshaping EOS, leadership, and the future of scalable, resilient businesses.    2:37  Kris’ Early Career 10:00 Discovering EOS & Joining 90 20:02 Evolving Moats in SaaS 27:26 AI’s Impact on EOS Implementation 27:38 AI’s Future: Challenges and Adoption 43:04 Thinking 10X for Growth 49:50 The ‘Getting What You Want’ Tool   Episode Resources:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krissnyder/ 90: https://www.ninety.io/ 
If you’ve been enjoying Confessions of an Implementor and want more honest conversations about leadership, growth, and real-world business challenges? I’ve got great news! 🎉  I’m launching a brand-new show: Confessions of a Vistage Chair. In this podcast, I sit down with Vistage Chairs, former CEOs and executives who now mentor and coach business leaders through peer advisory groups. We’ll go behind the scenes of what really happens inside Vistage meetings, how Chairs guide high-stakes decision-making, and what it takes to help CEOs grow stronger companies and become better leaders. The first episode drops on March 2nd, and you’re not going to want to miss it!
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Jill Young, an Expert EOS Implementer, who shares how a methodical approach to life creates the space for clarity, creativity, and personal mastery. She shares how self-awareness, integrated mind and body routines, and tools like the “hallucination journal” help visionaries stay grounded without losing their spark. Hear why grace, discipline, and the right support system turn growth into a sustainable, freeing journey.   04:13 Embracing Long Suffering 07:03 Personal Growth Through Crisis 11:18 Mindset and Physiology as Partners 16:49 The Journey to Self-Grace 22:20 Movement to Mastery: The EOS Journey 28:18 Navigating the Mechanical Phase 35:55 Coaching: Becoming Your Best Self 39:43 Discipline as True Freedom 44:31 The Hallucination Journal & What’s Next   Show Links   Talent Harbor: https://talentharbor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanehogan/   Guest Links   Website: https://www.jillyoung.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jill-young-eos/ Email: Jill@jillyoung.com
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Walt Brown, an Expert EOS Implementer, who shares how defining true core values and meeting the Seven Critical Needs creates cultures where people actually want to stay and grow. He explains how clear promises, honest measurement, and EOS tools help leaders build trust, improve engagement, and strengthen organizational health long before problems show up on the scorecard.   04:02 Entrepreneurial Journey and Origins 12:13 The Seven Critical Needs Origin 16:22 Aligning EOS with Critical Needs 20:09 Debriefing the Critical Needs Survey 26:01 Observing Organizational Health 35:17 The Power of the Promise 41:57 Making Promises and Core Values 44:35 Articulating Core Values in EOS 50:01 Challenging Core Values and Sandbags 52:51 Healthy vs. Productive Teams 56:05 Client Engagement and Services   Show Links   Talent Harbor: https://talentharbor.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanehogan/   Guest Links   Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/walt-brown/ Website: https://waltbrown.co LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/walt-brown-1b61894/ Email: walt@waltbrown.co Email: walt.brown@eosworldwide.com
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Ann Sheu, a Certified EOS Implementer, who shares how redefining success through Free Days, family decade dreams, and “no matter what” values helped her lead with more clarity at home and at work. She explains why proactive rest, personal values, and intentional family alignment create stronger leaders, healthier relationships, and businesses that support life instead of consuming it.   05:07 Defining True Freedom 09:00 Inspiring 10-Year Targets 15:26 From Lawyer to EOS Implementer 18:00 Embracing Visionary Role: Know Thyself 22:15 Radically Different Values Approach 28:34 Individual Values Drive Team Values 32:43 Triggers & “Better Every Day” Value 36:21 Living Out Your Core Values 38:37 Common Themes and Personal Journey 41:19 Individual Work Before Family Work 45:00 Roadmaps to Family Alignment 49:10 Collaboration Cards for Household Roles 55:10 Continuous Family Re-evaluation   Episode Resources   Website: https://www.mpoweredjourney.com Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/ann-sheu/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anncsheu/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anncsheu/?hl=en Email: ann@mpoweredjourney.com
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Mark Winters, an Expert EOS Implementer, who shares what it really means to be a visionary. He shares how clarifying decision ownership, defining personal freedom, and building the right leadership team allow visionaries to operate in their true strengths. Hear how aligning visionaries and integrators, letting go of draining work, and focusing on intrinsic genius creates healthier businesses and more fulfilling lives.   03:57 Journey to EOS Implementer 10:21 Vistage vs. EO: A Comparison 14:08 Rocket Fuel and the Visionary/Integrator Model 20:50 Visionary/Integrator Collaboration & Tie-breaker Rule 25:44 Decision-Making Frameworks 31:22 Visionary Engagement & ‘No Rocks’ Philosophy 39:14 The Visionary Trap 43:46 Sweet Spot vs. The Trap 50:08 Knowing Thyself: Exponential Freedom 56:38 Defining Freedom: Relationships & Parenting   Episode Resources   Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/mark-c-winters/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markcwinters/
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Jonathan B. Smith, an Author and EOS Implementer, who shares how the best negotiators don’t push harder, they listen better. He explains how tactical empathy, simple tools like labeling and mirroring, and a commitment to understanding the other person’s perspective create stronger relationships and better outcomes. Hear how practicing low stakes conversations, preparing with intention, and embracing a “fight less, win more” mindset can transform everyday interactions and lead to more meaningful, mutually beneficial results.   04:17 Defining Negotiation & Tactical Empathy 14:27 Negotiation as a Trained Skill 23:24 Core Negotiation Skills: Labels, Mirror, Silence, Summary 30:49 Accelerating Go/No-Go Decisions 36:28 Entry into EOS & Early Successes 43:40 Long-Term Approach to Networking 49:57 Hybrid Publishing Model 53:08 Advice for Aspiring Authors 58:33 Balancing EOS with Global Ambitions 01:00:58 The Transformative Impact of EOS 01:06:28 EOS Freestyle: Beyond the Framework   Episode Resources   Website: staycuriousjbs.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staycuriousjbs/ Email: jonathan@staycuriousjbs.com
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Don Maranca, an Expert EOS Implementer, who shares why real growth starts with a clear personal vision and honest accountability. From treating a business like a living body to combining peer groups with EOS for building change, he explains how transparency, shared goals, and consistent review create alignment at both the leadership and life level. Hear how writing goals down, sharing them openly, and leading with vulnerability help teams build trust and drive meaningful progress.   06:11 From TAB to EOS Implementation 11:44 Accounting vs. Finance & Business Health 14:43 Understanding Business Numbers and Health 23:00 The Power of Peer Groups and EOS 32:33 Understanding Your Personal Vision 40:43 Personal Vision as a Guiding Force 45:52 The Power of Intentional Vision 52:46 Regular Review of Personal Visions   Episode Resources   Website: https://jdsmenterprises.com/about-us/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donmaranca/ Email: don@JDSMEnterprises.com
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Sean Rosensteel, an EOS Implementer, who learned that systems, honesty, and focus, not hustle alone, create real success. He shares how adopting EOS, embracing niche markets, and seeking outside accountability helped him rebuild after failure, refine his strengths, and serve clients with greater clarity and conviction. Hear how transparency, continuous learning, and aligning with the right people transformed his business, and why structured support often accelerates growth more than going it alone.   05:21 Bankruptcy and Lessons Learned 07:11 Discovering EOS and Mentorship 16:28 Reinventing with Digital Marketing 22:48 People Analyzer in Hiring 26:10 Overcoming Fears with Gratitude 38:01 EOS-Driven Client Focus and Transition 41:03 Recruiting as a Service 44:16 Acquisition vs. Retention Business 48:20 EOS Implementer’s Niche 51:51 The Go-Giver Philosophy   Episode Resources   Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/sean-rosensteel/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanrosensteel/
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Sonya Jury, and EOS Implementer, who shares how letting go of control and empowering others became the key to lasting business growth. From addressing conflict openly to using tools for better team communication, she explains how trust, accountability, and structure help leaders avoid bottlenecks. Hear how embracing change, clarifying roles, and creating safe spaces for honest conversations transform both teams and culture.   00:00 From Architecture to EOS 04:10 Architecture: A World of Collaboration 06:51 Unexpected Opportunities in Architecture 09:03 Successful vs. Challenging Projects 13:58 Embracing Tough Conversations 17:26 The EOS Transformation 22:43 Building an EOS Business 28:02 Reconciling Different Visions with Assessments 33:01 Managing Conflict with Colby 37:41 Props and the Honesty Pig 43:38 Making Hard Leadership Decisions 46:42 Owners and Founders Stepping Back 49:09 Overcoming EOS Resistance 51:12 Client Niche and Empowerment 53:49 Empowerment and Contact Information   Episode Resources   Website: https://www.eosworldwide.com/sonya-jury LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonyajury/ Email: sonya.jury@eosworldwide.com 
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Chris Hallberg, an EOS Implementer, who shares how trust, healthy conflict, and clear communication create the kind of team commitment he first experienced in the military. From empowering middle managers to using data for objective accountability, he explains how structure, safety, and honest dialogue help leaders strengthen their culture and elevate performance. Hear how embracing conflict, setting clear expectations, and building empowered “business sergeants” transform teams into aligned, high-performing units.   01:37 Leveraging Conflict for Growth 05:22 The Purpose of Military Structure 09:24 Leadership Lessons from Service 13:33 Commitment in Civilian vs. Military 17:17 Accelerating Team Liberation 22:56 Full Contact EOS and Mid-Managers 27:00 Empowering Mid-Managers for Success 31:39 Direct Feedback and Leadership Accountability 34:54 Introducing GoExpand: AI-Powered EOS Platform 39:10 Objective Decision-Making with GoExpand   Episode Resources   Website: https://goexpand.com Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/chris-hallberg/ Website: https://www.bizsgt.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-hallberg-01516315/
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Barry Barrett, Entrepreneur and EOS Implementer, who shares how channeling both desperation and inspiration became the driving force behind his success. From building structure through EOS to embracing the discipline of his military roots, he explains how clarity, consistency, and trust transformed his leadership. Hear how knowing your unique abilities and surrounding yourself with truth tellers helped him turn setbacks into growth and purpose.   00:00 Military Background and Injury 04:09 Transitioning to Civilian Life 09:48 Finding Purpose in Sales and EOS 12:28 Overcoming Insecurity and Victimhood 17:50 10X Growth and Life Goals 23:55 The Journey of a Teacher 30:26 Who Not How: Leveraging Unique Ability 34:55 Understanding Unique Abilities with Kolbe 41:03 Valuing Unique Abilities 43:59 Inspiration vs. Desperation 48:36 Confronting Isolation and Peer Selection 53:49 Aspirations and the Power of Peers 59:01 Capitalizing on Luck and Hard Work 1:02:06 Military Decisions and Unique Abilities 1:04:41 Connecting with Barry and Sales Process   Episode Resources   Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/barry-barrett/ Website: https://www.bwpcoach.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrybarrett/
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Beth Berman, an EOS Implementer,  who shares how hiring intentionally and leading with core values became the foundation for healthier, stronger teams. From addressing people issues with fairness to using EOS tools that spark honest conversations, she explains how trust, clarity, and consistent accountability prevent chaos and protect culture. Hear how defining “right people, right seats,” reinforcing values, and creating safe spaces for candor transform organizations from the inside out.   02:43 Creating a Safe and Honest Environment 05:50 Addressing ‘Right People, Right Seats’ Challenges 09:51 Confronting Cultural Misalignment 13:46 The Three-Step Feedback Process 18:11 Navigating Difficult Session Dynamics 22:09 Overcoming Fear and Dysfunction 27:54 Coaching Leaders and Addressing Change 33:04 Effective Feedback and Company Culture 39:50 Scaling Culture Through Core Values 45:09 Beth’s EOS Journey and Impact   Episode Resources   Website: https://implementer.eosworldwide.com/beth-berman/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/growthdc/ Email: Beth.berman@eosworldwide.com Phone: (301) 807-1990
Welcome to Confessions of an Implementer, a podcast by Talent Harbor. We share unique stories of implementers and the companies they’ve transformed to give you a rare glimpse into the system's successes and challenges. I'm your host, Ryan Hogan.   Let’s dive in!   In this episode, I sit down with Curt Swindoll, an EOS Implementer, who shares why great leadership starts with purpose, not profit. From defining an organization’s “why” to leading with care instead of fear, he explains how strong values, clear focus, and consistent action inspire real commitment. Hear how building a purpose driven culture not only attracts passionate talent but also creates lasting impact that goes far beyond the bottom line.   03:02 Why Nonprofits vs. For-Profits 06:40 Finding Transcendent Purpose in Business 12:19 Drivers of Business: Beyond Money 15:53 Experiences, Memories & Business Purpose 19:10 Balancing Purpose and Profit 23:53 Talent Harbor Ad Break 25:15 Culture: More Than Wall Art 32:25 Purpose in Difficult Decisions 35:57 Values: More Than Words 41:34 Repeating Core Messages 43:04 Communication and Action Alignment 47:08 Inclusion and Company as Family 49:49 Love and Fear in Leadership 55:52 EOS Implementer’s Diverse Focus 59:33 Becoming a Transformative Leader   Episode Resources Website: https://www.eosworldwide.com/curt-swindoll LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtswindoll/ Email: curt.swindoll@eosworldwide.com
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