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Extraordinary Creatives: The Premier Art Podcast
Welcome to the Extraordinary Creatives podcast, your gateway to the world of exceptional artists and creative leaders who have defied the odds to make a significant impact in the arts and beyond.
Hosted by Ceri Hand, creative coach, curator, and seasoned arts and business insider, this podcast offers a wealth of insights into art and creativity through in-depth interviews. Ceri’s extensive experience and genuine passion for the arts make every episode a treasure trove of inspiration and practical advice.
At the heart of Extraordinary Creatives is the belief that creativity is essential for success. However, it is the courage, confidence, and resilience to dare to be different that truly transforms the world. With her warm, playful, and straight-talking style, Ceri delves into the ideas, processes, mindsets, victories, and challenges of trailblazers who have paved the way in the arts.
Ceri’s mission is to support 100,000 artists and arts leaders by 2025 by providing exclusive access to information, inspiration, and expertise. Discover the transformative power of art with Extraordinary Creatives. Tune in and follow so you don’t miss an episode!
Welcome to the Extraordinary Creatives podcast, your gateway to the world of exceptional artists and creative leaders who have defied the odds to make a significant impact in the arts and beyond.
Hosted by Ceri Hand, creative coach, curator, and seasoned arts and business insider, this podcast offers a wealth of insights into art and creativity through in-depth interviews. Ceri’s extensive experience and genuine passion for the arts make every episode a treasure trove of inspiration and practical advice.
At the heart of Extraordinary Creatives is the belief that creativity is essential for success. However, it is the courage, confidence, and resilience to dare to be different that truly transforms the world. With her warm, playful, and straight-talking style, Ceri delves into the ideas, processes, mindsets, victories, and challenges of trailblazers who have paved the way in the arts.
Ceri’s mission is to support 100,000 artists and arts leaders by 2025 by providing exclusive access to information, inspiration, and expertise. Discover the transformative power of art with Extraordinary Creatives. Tune in and follow so you don’t miss an episode!
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Do you ever ask yourself, why do I keep inventing massive projects when all I really want to do is make my own art? Why do I keep building infrastructures for other people when what I actually crave is to be in the studio, in rehearsal, on a stage? And why, at the end of these enormous, impressive undertakings, do I feel quietly resentful?
If this lands in your chest, stay with Ceri and learn how to avoid this trap
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Impressive collaborative projects can be draining. Yet they feel far safer than standing there with one vulnerable artwork and saying, “This is enough.” - Empire projects offer access, validation, funding, titles - a sense of being legit.
When you're the organ grinder, the monkey, the organ and the music, something shifts. You stop making decisions based on creativity. You start making decisions consciously or unconsciously based on compliance.
It’s not that big structures are bad - some people are meant to build institutions. If you are not one of them, ask - If there were no funders, partners, or applause, what would I still make and what would I stop building altogether? – then, create the pieces you really want to make.
BEST MOMENTS
“Maybe the next bold move is not another empire. Maybe it's a small, precise, unapologetic piece of work, one performance, one painting, one body of work, one show. No Empire required.”
“If you grew up believing art alone couldn't sustain you, building an infrastructure can feel like the sensible compromise.”
“Collaboration can be electric. Working with people at your level or beyond, can sharpen you, stretch you make you braver.”
“There's a difference between building something because it genuinely expands you and building something because you're trying to fill a gap.”
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
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Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
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Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Before we begin, a gentle note: in this episode we speak about death, grief, psychosis and depression. If you’re feeling tender, you might want to pause and come back when the time feels right. It will be worth it.
Today, I am joined by the extraordinary artist Eddie Peake.
Eddie builds exhibitions the way some artists use paint. Space, for him, is a material. He constructs environments that place you inside the liminal fourth wall, that charged threshold between viewer and viewed, between participation and observation, between ecstasy and horror. In his shows, the audience becomes a protagonist.
We talk about masculinity stretched to breaking point, about desire and shame, about the theatre of intimacy and the politics shaping our cultural moment. Eddie pushes back on what the art world calls authenticity, questioning whether expression itself has become a learned, conservative language dressed up as radical. In an age of populist politics and market-ready aesthetics, he asks what it really means to resist.
If you’re an artist wrestling with identity, politics, envy, burnout, or the fear that your work is either too much or not enough, this conversation will resonate.
I hope it moves you as much as it moved me.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
· The fourth wall isn’t just a boundary; it’s a live material. Treating space as something you can sculpt, like Eddie does, lets the viewer become a character inside the work, not a distant observer.
· Fluorescent colour can carry psychic weight. What looks euphoric on the surface can also signal overload, instability, and states of mind that don’t sit neatly in polite language.
BEST MOMENTS
“This is your reminder that creative life is not linear. There are seasons of immersion and seasons of withdrawal”
“I really believe it's important to take Our time and not to feel a sort of outside pressure to be moving at 7000 million miles per hour at all times.”
RESOURCES
https://www.instagram.com/eddie_peake
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
**
Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
**
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
**
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
When your brain says - I don’t know who would buy this, I don’t know where to find them. I don’t know how this would ever work, it is lying to you.
What if “I don’t know how” isn’t a fact. What if its anxiety dressed up as logic. What if your brain is quietly converting uncertainty into impossibility.
Once that story settles, you stop try. You don´t need to test formats. You don´t need to ask different questions. You don´t need to risk being wrong. If this sounds familiar, you are not alone.
In this episode, I unpack why “I don’t know how” is rarely a business verdict and more often a nervous system response.
If your practice feels “hard to sell,” this one’s for you.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
“I don´t know how” is not a verdict, it's a skill gap. There are countless things you once didn't know how to do, invoice, negotiate, install, work, apply for funding, price confidently.
Your brain doesn't predict your competence. It predicts your danger. Anxiety confuses unfamiliar with unsafe.
Turn “I don’t know how” into a research brief. Instead of spiralling, ask: What exactly do I not know? Is it pricing? Editioning? Finding aligned collectors? Be precise, then fill those gaps - Ceri shares exactly how.
Accept that certainty is a fantasy. No artist has a guaranteed buyer before they begin. They build belief alongside action.
BEST MOMENTS
“When your brain says, I don't know, it's often trying to protect you from visibility, rejection, or financial disappointment. It's not offering a business forecast.”
“Instead of asking, how might this translate for me? Your mind asks, how can I prove this does not apply to me? - That’s anxiety trying to maintain control.”
“Study their CVs. Look at collections listed, public and private. Screenshot it. Create a folder called Proof. You are not allowed to catastrophise without data.”
“Test one price point. Anxiety hates experiments because experiments create reality.”
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
****
Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
****
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
****
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
****
Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today I’m in conversation with the extraordinary Sarah Boris, an artist who treats symbols like building blocks and colour like architecture.
Her practice moves between sculpture, drawing, printmaking, painting, and bookmaking, yet everything she makes feels connected by a rigorous, playful logic. You migaht know her Fragile UK Flag, a reimagined Union Jack made from delicate tape and paper, exhibited at the Design Museum in London and now held in major public collections including the Stedelijk Museum in Amsterdam and the Bibliothèque Nationale de France
A national emblem made vulnerable. A bold gesture made breakable.
But this conversation is less about icons and more about expansion. We dive into her modular works, a vast body of over one hundred drawings that evolved into nesting sculptures, furniture modules, and her largest sculpture to date. We talk about scale not as ego, but as curiosity. And then there is Time for Peace, a conceptual clock that quietly marks the peace symbol four times a day. No grand spectacle. Just a subtle interruption in the rhythm of time.
This episode is about systems and softness. About building something precise without losing play. About committing to a visual language so fully that it begins to grow its own architecture.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Nothing is fixed. Elements can shift, nest, expand, contract. A drawing can become a sculpture. A book can become a building. A word can hold two languages at once.
Let your smaller works teach you how to build bigger ones. Let your practice evolve in modules rather than leaps. If you’ve been sitting on an idea that feels too playful, too colourful, too structural, or too ambitious - test it, stack it, and see what it becomes.
There is quiet power in artists championing one another.
If someone can’t find you, they can’t commission you. If they can’t commission you, they can’t support your ideas.
BEST MOMENTS
“Being in a different place, with different light, different language, different constraints, can unlock entirely new bodies of work - a reminder that context is not a backdrop. It’s a collaborator.”
“If I hadn't had the website, this beautiful story wouldn't have happened.”
“She handles cultural signs with care, but she isn’t afraid to rework them.”
“I was self-sabotaging in so many areas.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
https://sarahboris.com
https://www.instagram.com/sarahboris_ldn
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
****
Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
****
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
****
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
****
Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
If you’ve listened to the last couple of shorty episodes, you’ll know we’ve been talking about structure. What should be on your website. What can go. And how clarity does far more work than cleverness.
So today, I want to talk about what often happens next. Once your website is clear, calm, and coherent, something interesting starts to happen. Sales begin to trickle in. Enquiries land in your inbox. Commissioners get in touch. Brands reach out. Often quietly, often weeks or months after someone first visited your site.
Your website is always working in the background, even when you don´t think anything is happening.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Curators, collectors, commissioners, art advisors. They don't always announce themselves when they're browsing, but they browse repeatedly, and your website is where momentum turns into confidence
Most people don't land on your website necessarily ready to buy. They arrive curious. Your website's job at that moment is not to persuade it's to reduce friction, clear work, clear information, clear invitations enable people to find out more.
When a public art commissioner lands on your site, they’re not just thinking “Is this interesting?”—they’re scanning for proof you can deliver at scale: images that show your work in the world, a handful of clearly documented projects, and obvious next steps to contact you.
Available works pages often outperform full e commerce shops. They feel human. They feel conversational. They invite inquiry rather than demanding commitment.
BEST MOMENTS
“Your website is not just selling artwork, it's selling readiness, readiness to be commissioned, readiness to work at scale, readiness to collaborate with brands or institutions.”
“If someone has to hunt for how to engage you, they often won't, not because they're not interested, but because friction kills intent.”
“If you are open to collaborations, say so.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
1st episode of the Artist´s website series - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/why-artist-websites-still-matter-and-how-to-make/id1709105337?i=1000751657709
Lakwena episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/in-between-worlds-lakwena-maciver-s-journey-through/id1709105337?i=1000739050767
Marianna Simnett episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/embracing-the-unconventional-marianna-simnett-on/id1709105337?i=1000658388496
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
****
Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
****
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
****
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
****
Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
In today’s episode of the Extraordinary Creatives podcast, I’m joined by the inspiring Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg, whose work sits at the intersection of art, ecology, and emerging technologies.
Daisy’s work explores the politics, value systems, and assumptions that shape how humans relate to the natural world. Her projects range from algorithmically designed gardens created for pollinators, to resurrecting the smell of extinct flowers, and translating living systems into materials such as tapestry and bronze.
In our conversation, Daisy shares how working closely with scientists and researchers has refined her relationship to failure. What might be a dead end in scientific research can become, for her, the starting point for an artwork that asks better questions. We dig into Pollinator Pathmaker, shaped by insect vision rather than human taste, and her new public sculpture commission, The Length of a Moment, where the invisible movement of moths becomes permanent form.
This episode is an invitation to think differently about how we apply our creativity, who we learn from, and the kinds of worlds our work helps to shape. I am certain you’ll be inspired, so please let me know if anything touches you.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Making ambitious work is never just about ideas. It’s about labour, time, care, and responsibility. About how teams are treated, how boundaries are held, and how ethics show up not as statements, but as daily decisions.
When you approach a project as a collaborator who is willing to learn how an organization works, you create the psychological safety needed to pull off truly ambitious, experimental work.
Hold the line on your professional boundaries. Clarity is kindness, it’s not about being "difficult" - it's being precise.
BEST MOMENTS
“The flower looks red to us, but a bee can’t see red. They can see ultraviolet. So suddenly you realise that the way we think the world looks isn’t how it looks at all.”
“Her methodologies show us what becomes possible when artists invite in knowledge from academics, technologists, children, and global perspective.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
https://www.daisyginsberg.com
https://www.instagram.com/daisyginsberg
https://pollinator.art
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
**
Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
**
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
**
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
**
Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Ceri moves to the next step of the artist website journey. Once you’ve selected the work and gathered the words, the question becomes: what should definitely be on the website? And just as importantly, what should not.
Most artist websites don’t fail because they’re missing things; they fail because they’re overloaded with too many pages, projects, and text and no clear entry point.
Your website is not a storage unit - it’s a guided experience. You are leading someone through your work, whether you realise it or not, and the clearer that journey is, the more confident your website feels.
Listen in to learn how to create a structure that supports your practice rather than draining it.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
If your website feels overwhelming, remove before you add. Take anything off your site you wouldn’t actively send a curator to today, such as old projects you’ve outgrown or sections you feel you have to apologise for.
Navigation is your backbone. If the menu is messy, everything else feels messy. Ceri shares a simple menu that works.
Give people a "front door" to each body of work. Instead of an endless scroll, group your work by year, medium, or series to provide an entry point that lets the work do the persuading before the language does.
Consider how movement affects attention . Moving sideways through work slows the encounter down and deepens the relationship, while vertical scrolling carries the muscle memory of "doom scrolling" so people absorb less.
Use text as an invitation. Strangers don't want to wade through long paragraphs before seeing images. Keep text short, place it after the work, and use it to orient the viewer toward your thinking or materials.
BEST MOMENTS
"Volume doesn’t build trust. Structure builds trust."
"Your website gets stronger every time you remove something that no longer represents you."
"Home is the doorway. Work is where they fall in. About is where they trust you. Contact is where they act."
“I worked with an artist who had hundreds of images with no grouping. They thought it made them look prolific. Instead, it made the viewer do all the work.”
EPISODDE RESOURCES
Episode 122 - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/should-you-start-a-newsletter-as-an-artist/id1709105337?i=1000717594617
https://claire-morgan.co.uk
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
**
Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
**
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
**
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
**
Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today’s guest is Rob Lowe, also known as Supermundane, an artist, illustrator, writer, and public speaker whose work uses geometric shapes, colour, pattern, and words to create playful, philosophical, and deeply generous work.
With a background in graphic design and over 30 years working across the creative world, Rob has moved fluidly between indie magazine design, publishing, murals, community-led projects, and major global commissions, including designing the influential magazines Anorak and Fire & Knives and creating the visual identity for the Champions League London Final. Whether he’s working at the scale of a print, a rug, a classroom, or city walls, his focus is the same: making work that feels rooted in shared human experience.
He’s also the author of Lost Ordinary Magic, a book of “simple things in a complicated world,” which feels like a neat distillation of his wider practice.
In this conversation, we talk about how to make accessible work without flattening it, how projects grow through trust rather than ego, and what it really takes to build a sustainable creative career that protects both your voice and your energy.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Caring about the people, the context and the conditions of the work isn’t extra; it’s the strategy that makes the work deeper, more trusted, and more sustainable.
Big commissions don’t require a different version of you. They require the same thinking, just at a different volume. Scale doesn’t have to mean compromise.
You don’t have to contort yourself to be legible. You don’t have to overproduce to be relevant. You don’t have to disappear inside other people’s frameworks to make meaningful work.
BEST MOMENTS
“You can work at the scale of a kid with scissors and glue, and also the scale of a city, and still be doing the same work, just with different volume.”
“I work hard, but I don't like stress … I work within what I'm good at, so I'm always working with my strengths, rather than trying to force myself to do something that I think I should be.”
“There is obviously a recognisable style, but it's more about how I work and how I think and… I have a certain way of looking and seeing the world.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
www.supermundane.com
www.instagram.com/supermundane
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
****
Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
****
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
****
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
****
Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Despite what we’re told, websites are not obsolete. Curators still look at them. Gallerists still look at them. Collectors still look at them. Commissioners still look at them.
Quietly. Carefully. Often before they ever contact you. Your website is where people go when they’re deciding whether to take you seriously. Social media shows momentum. Websites show coherence.
If your website feels overwhelming, messy, neglected, or like a project you keep putting off, that doesn’t mean you’re behind. It usually means you’ve skipped a step.
Most artists jump straight to design. Templates. Platforms. Fonts. Colours. And they do it before they’ve made the harder, quieter decisions. What actually belongs on here? What am I ready to stand behind? What story am I telling now, not five years ago?
So, today´s episode isn’t about redesigning your website. It’s about preparing for it.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Artist websites still matter - curators, gallerists, commissioners, and collectors actually use them.
Your website isn’t dead. It’s quietly doing its job when the right people are paying attention.
Your website is not a performance space, but a catalogue of your strongest thinking. It is not an archive. This is a selection of your best work - If someone only ever saw this work, they should understand the kind of artist you are.
I don't want anyone landing on your site and thinking, well, now what? So, decide before you design how people can connect with you.
This episode is about deciding what needs to be included on your site. The next one is about shaping.
BEST MOMENTS
“Ask yourself something important - if someone only saw these pieces, would they understand what kind of artist I am?”
“Have a portrait image of yourself, ideally in your studio or somewhere that feels human. Smiley helps, warm helps, approachable helps. People want to know who they're connecting with. They don't need mystery here.”
“A blank contact page with just an email address or an Instagram handle doesn't feel welcoming. It feels like a closed door.”
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
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Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Book a Discovery Call Today
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What if artists aren’t here to fix the world, but to reveal what’s really going on inside it.
In this episode of Extraordinary Creatives, I’m joined by Filipa Ramos, a curator, writer, and educator whose work reframes art not as commentary on ecology, but as an ecological practice in itself.
Filipa is Artistic Director of LOOP Festival Barcelona, Lecturer at the Academy of Art and Design in Basel, and the author of The Artist as Ecologist, Contemporary Art, and the Environment.
In this conversation, Filipa shares vivid examples of inspiring artists and artworks that help us think differently about our relationship with animals and nature. We talk about why artists are often better at raising problems than offering fixes. Why responsibility can immobilise creativity. How beauty, affect, and emotion still matter. And how working relationally, slowly, and collaboratively can be a powerful alternative to extractive, spectacle-driven models of success.
This conversation is for artists who feel the weight of responsibility and expectation. For anyone worried their work isn’t doing enough - for those searching for ways to make art that is rigorous, ethical, and deeply alive.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Art does not need to rush toward answers. Your work does not need to explain itself in a single sentence to be valid; it’s allowed to be complex, relational, and full of questions that unfold over time.
Ecology isn’t a theme you illustrate; it’s a way of relating – letting the places you move through, and the animals and people you share them with, reshape what you notice and how you see it.
The promise of big institutions can be hollow. Often, real agency comes through the platforms you build with others, not the ones that “choose” you.
BEST MOMENTS
“Artists are not here to provide solutions, but to complicate the story. To expose fragility. To create space for shared sensing, shared listening, shared not knowing.”
“That’s why art is so important. It’s not trying to remediate. It’s not trying to provide a simple answer. It’s attempting to find alternatives.”
“The most meaningful, long-lasting work often happens outside the biggest institutions, through collaboration, care, and time.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
https://www.instagram.com/filipaaaaaaaaaaa
https://loop-barcelona.com
https://www.fhnw.ch/de/personen/filipa-ramos
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
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Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Book a Discovery Call Today
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Today, Ceri talks to those of you who know exactly what they need to do but still can’t quite bring themselves to do it. Not because you don’t care. Not because you’re incapable. But because the task feels loaded.
It might be an email you keep rewriting. A proposal you keep circling. A conversation you know you need to have.
You stay busy. You prepare. You research. You tweak. And somehow the hardest thing never quite gets done.
It’s a common experience for so many of the artists Ceri works with. So, you only need to listen in to find out how to get the things you´re avoiding done.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
We tend to think prioritising is a logical skill. Decide what matters most. Do that first - In real life, especially in creative work, prioritisation is emotional. When a task carries emotional weight, the brain treats it differently.
When you avoid a task, it’s rarely about laziness - it’s your nervous system protecting you from something that feels risky.
You don’t need more discipline; you need systems that fit your brain: visible time slots, clear steps, templates, and processes to follow. The fewer decisions you have to make, the better.
Separating thinking from doing and working alongside others makes emotionally heavy tasks feel doable, not overwhelming.
BEST MOMENTS
“Difficulty prioritising isn't about knowing what matters. It's about regulation. Attention, emotion, and effort are linked.”
“Make time visible. Short defined time blocks with a timer help counter the feeling that a task is endless. When time is visible, the brain can relax.”
“Separate thinking from doing.”
“Use a shared presence, working alongside someone else, even silently, helps many people stay anchored. This is often called body doubling.”
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
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****
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Today’s episode brings together two extraordinary creatives whose work has helped shape contemporary culture through a shared commitment to curiosity, counterculture, and championing unique voices.
Ceri is joined by sisters Francesca Gavin and Seana Gavin, each working across different mediums but united by a belief in following instinct and staying close to what feels urgent and alive.
Francesca is one of the most influential figures shaping how contemporary art is written about and presented today. She is Director of Visual Arts at Murmur, Editor-in-Chief of EPOCH, and a regular contributor to publications including the Financial Times. Her curatorial work spans major international contexts, from co-curating Manifesta 11 in Zurich to exhibitions at institutions such as Somerset House and the Palais de Tokyo. She is the author of eleven books on art and visual culture and has hosted Rough Version on NTS Radio for the past nine years, exploring the intersections of art and music.
Seana is a London-based artist working primarily in collage, creating dreamlike worlds from vintage photographic material where past and future collide. Her work has been exhibited internationally, from Somerset House and the Serralves Foundation to the Nobel Prize Museum in Stockholm, with solo shows in Paris and London. Alongside this, her work features in major publications, brand collaborations, and collections including Soho House worldwide. Her photography monograph Spiralled, published by IDEA Books, is now in its fourth edition.
In this conversation, they talk about creative longevity, instinct, and how to build a practice that remains porous, rigorous, and true over time.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Creative longevity isn’t about having a perfect plan. It’s about staying close to what you’re genuinely curious about, paying attention to what keeps returning in your life, and trusting those repetitions enough to follow them.
Work becomes more resilient when different strands feed one another - writing into curating, music into thinking, collage into archives, archives back into books and shows.
BEST MOMENTS
“For me, personally, originality is that unique point of view or something fresh that they're saying - there's often a spirit in there that you can sense in the way something's been made.”
““It’s very intuitive. It’s almost like I’m going into a meditative state… I gather up lots of material that might fit in with that imaginary world… and then something starts to happen.”
RESOURCES
https://www.presentfuture.be
https://www.francescagavin.com
https://www.instagram.com/seanagavin
https://murmur.earth
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals - https://cerihand.com/membership/
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Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Book a Discovery Call Today
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There is something quietly brutal about making work that only exists for a day. You build it. You rehearse it. You hold your nerve. The room fills. The moment happens -
And then everyone goes home. You are left standing in the afterglow asking a question most artists feel ashamed to ask.
How does something this ephemeral actually support my life?
Not just my reputation. Not just my sense of meaning. My ability to keep making work. Today, Ceri talks about how one-off events, performances, and live moments can generate income and momentum without turning your practice into merch, without exhausting your audience, and without betraying the integrity of the work.
This is about designing afterlives.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Artists can sell from one-off events without cheapening the work, overpromoting, or burning out. They can design afterlives for ephemeral work, where income, integrity, and longevity can sit side by side.
Think about the entire life cycle of a one-off event and where sales can happen quietly, intelligently and with integrity before and during the event. - You're not selling the event; you're selling what the event activates.
You only need a small, aligned audience, 10–30 people who genuinely understand and care about your work, combined with simple release windows after an event, to sustain an ephemeral practice.
BEST MOMENTS
“You don't want to flatten something complex into a product, but you also can't afford for every major piece of work to disappear without trace.”
“Many artists miss a trick because they think selling only happens after the applause. It doesn't. Before the event, the work is already alive in other forms.”
“If an event cannot produce anything that can be held, shared or lived with afterwards, institutions can't sustain it, and collectors can't support it.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
Ep 166 - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-why-and-what-of-hosting-your-own-artist/id1709105337?i=1000741761586
Ep 167 - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/planning-the-how-turning-intention-into-a/id1709105337?i=1000742246860
Ep 168 - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-happens-after-turning-one-evening-into-long-term/id1709105337?i=1000742648123
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
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****
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Today, I am joined by Marcel Baettig, artist, cultural leader, and founder and CEO of Bow Arts, one of London’s most influential arts and education charities. Over three decades, Marcel has quietly built a values-led social enterprise that provides affordable studios and housing for artists, reaches tens of thousands of young people, and continually reinvests in local communities.
This conversation isn’t just about scale or success. It´s about precarity, why artists need infrastructure as much as inspiration, and how Marcel’s own experience of working as an artist shaped Bow Arts. We explore leadership without ego, the long game of cultural change, and why we need to stop treating artists as an afterthought in regeneration.
This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt the system is stacked against them - and wondered what it looks like to build a different one.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
We need to stop accepting scarcity as inevitable, to question who systems are really designed for - building a better art world is not a theoretical exercise. It’s a daily practice.
Sustainable creative lives are built through shared responsibility and leaders who remember what it feels like to be at the kitchen table wondering how the rent will get paid and still choosing to make the work.
If we want artists to survive, we must design practical, long-term infrastructure - affordable space, stable income pathways, and owned assets, not just offer prestige moments or short-term opportunities.
BEST MOMENTS
“Artists thrive when they are trusted, resourced, and rooted in their communities.”
“Artists don’t just need opportunities. They need conditions. Time. Space. Stability and a sense their contribution to society is not decorative, but essential.”
THE GUEST
Marcel Baettig is the Founder and CEO of Bow Arts, a pioneering London charity providing affordable, sustainable spaces for artists to live and work while contributing to their local communities. Originally trained as an artist, he founded Bow Arts in 1994, and it now supports over 1,100 artists across London, runs a major learning programme that reaches tens of thousands of young people, and reinvests significant funds into local cultural life. He is also a founding director of the National Federation of Artist Studio Providers and has advised bodies including the Mayor of London, Arts Council England, and DCMS on creative workspace and cultural regeneration.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/1639152
https://www.facebook.com/bowarts/?locale=en_GB
https://bowarts.org/
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
**
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Book a Discovery Call Today
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Welcome to episode 179 of the Extraordinary Creatives podcast - Should You Quit Your Job to Be an Artist?
There’s a moment every artist fantasises about. The email sent. The notice handed in. The clean break. Finally, time, headspace, freedom.
But more time doesn’t automatically mean better work. Sometimes it means more fear.
So, Should you give up your full-time job to pursue your art?
Not in theory. Not in Instagram-caption wisdom. But in real life, with real nervous systems, real rent, real doubt, and real ambition. This episode was sparked by a conversation inside her Artist Mastermind Circle.
An artist who’d built a successful business alongside his practice. Financially stable. Thoughtful. Clear-eyed. And still asking himself the hardest question of all. Is now the moment to make a clean break?
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Quitting your job won’t magically fix your practice. It might give you space.It might also give you anxiety, comparison, and a nervous system in overdrive. Before you burn the bridge, build the baton. Steady the work. Strengthen the support. Then decide.
Anxiety has a way of shrinking creativity. It narrows risk. It softens ambition. It pushes you towards safer work, not braver work. That's not a moral failure, that's biology.
Before you quit, make sure your work is strong, you’re truly committed to sharing it and ready for the time and energy doing that takes. Ensure your inner world is steady, you’re supported, and you’ve tested that your art can actually sustain you. Don’t jump; build the bridge.
BEST MOMENTS
“More time doesn't automatically mean better work. Sometimes it means more fear.”
“A sustainable creative career isn't built on bravery alone. It's built on emotional regulation. Your thoughts affect your feelings. Your feelings affect your actions. Your actions create your results.”
“Can you manage your inner weather when doubt hits? Do you have tools to regulate yourself, or do you collapse into self, judgement and comparison and shrink?”
“The lone, brave warrior fantasy is seductive. And dangerous. It's bullsh**t. No artist gets there alone.”
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
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****
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Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Today’s episode is with the extraordinary Eva Sajovic, an artist whose art works provoke questions about labour, value, and exchange. We talk about how growing up with her grandma in the countryside in Slovenia shapes not just what she makes, but how she makes it and how that early encounter with political rupture still informs her resistance to spectacle, speed, and extractive systems.
We unpack the emotional, ethical, and practical labour beneath participatory work, and talk candidly about teaching, money, sustainability, and authorship. Eva shares what shifted during her British School at Rome fellowship, and what it takes to build a practice that can hold complexity without collapsing. She also reflects on joining the Artist Mastermind Circle, and why vulnerability is essential to getting the work into the world.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Eva´s childhood experiences of scarcity and playing in freedom taught her to explore and be resourceful and that “makeshift” muscle is still at the core of her work.
When you move out of your body and into your head to “solve” the work, it tends to die. Instead let materials, repetition, instinct and sensation lead. Often, the images and ideas are already in your body, waiting for the right process to draw them out.
If you work with people, factor in the emotional and ethical labour as part of the project, not an add-on. Build in support, debrief time, and clear roles.
BEST MOMENTS
“Art is really about deep care and attention. About what you offer and what you are willing to hold.”
“The images are in my body, not somewhere else. They are inside and they come out.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
https://www.evasajovic.co.uk
https://www.instagram.com/eva_sajovic
https://www.arts.ac.uk/whats-on/eva-sajovic-rise-and-fall-of-a-temple
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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The Artist Mastermind Circle: Ready to stop second-guessing and start building next level momentum in your art career? Applications are now open for the Artist Mastermind Circle—a six-month coaching programme for 25 mid-career artists serious about growing their income, network, opportunities, and confidence.
Register by 6pm Monday 2nd February: Artist Mastermind Circle Application and take the next bold step. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6hXd1YpO5MvUq2oRqW3qyqte7BBn5CSkgHG76dXzBMbT66Q/viewform)
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****
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Today we’re getting into co-representation, the realities of working with more than one gallery, and how to navigate it without damaging the relationships you’ve worked so hard to build.
You’ve built a body of work that has momentum. You’ve shown commitment to your gallery. You’ve done the shows, the fairs, the dinners, the follow-ups. And now you feel ready to build internationally. Not as a vanity move. Not because you’re bored. But because your work feels ready to travel, and because you understand that long-term sustainability often requires more than one market.
So, you raise the question with your gallery. And instead of traction, you get drag. The response isn’t hostile. It’s not a no. It’s just… slow.
This is where many artists start to doubt themselves. Or worse, start making moves quietly, without support, because waiting feels unbearable.
This episode is for that moment.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Wanting to expand internationally does not make you impatient or ungrateful, but moving without strategy, clarity or the consent and co-operation of your existing gallery can undo years of careful relationship building.
Co-signing you into another territory carries real reputational risk for your gallery and for you and introduces complexity.
Instead of quietly scrambling behind your gallery’s back, ask for a focused meeting, lay out why this territory and why now, and work with them to define clear criteria, a realistic timeline and a small pilot so co-representation becomes a shared, strategic project rather than a secret escape plan. Use the scripts Ceri shares to help you.
BEST MOMENTS
“Joint representation only works when there is deep trust, transparency and aligned strategy.”
“Your primary gallery should lead on sales strategy and pricing coherence… This coherence is what builds confidence and protects your long-term value.
“If the gallery is not acting, you need clarity, not patience without end. So, step one, ask for a decision, not a discussion.”
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
**
The Artist Mastermind Circle: Ready to stop second-guessing and start building next level momentum in your art career? Applications are now open for the Artist Mastermind Circle—a six-month coaching programme for 25 mid-career artists serious about growing their income, network, opportunities and confidence.
Register by 6pm Monday 2nd February: Artist Mastermind Circle Application and take the next bold step https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6hXd1YpO5MvUq2oRqW3qyqte7BBn5CSkgHG76dXzBMbT66Q/viewform
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
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**
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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This week’s podcast guest is the extraordinary David Horvitz, an artist whose work has been exhibited at and collected by major institutions around the world.
Witty, poetic, and nomadic, David’s work traverses photography, artist books, performance, mail art, sound, the internet, food, and natural environments, engaging systems of language, time, and networks.
We talk about why artists should resist being burdened by identity or authorship, what it means to let work travel without you, why erasure can be as generative as making, and how attention, patience and trust shape a long creative life.
This is an invitation to rethink how art moves, how ideas land, and why not everything needs to be planned and held tightly to matter. It’s juicy, so I hope you enjoy it!
KEY TAKEAWAYS
You don’t need a tidy label or style. Let your work move across mediums. Consistency of spirit matters more than a fixed “brand.” Protect your ability to change direction, even if it risks sales.
Stop over managing meaning. Allow your work to circulate, mutate, and find its own audiences in its own time. Trust that small gestures, made with intention, can ripple far beyond what we can see.
David reminds us that nerves and doubt aren’t problems to fix, but raw material: use that nervous energy, bounce half-formed ideas off people, and let that call-and-response sharpen what the work really wants to be.
BEST MOMENTS
“You don't have to be burdened by the image you've created of yourself. You could start over.”
“Artists need to be inconsistently consistent, if you like, in order to have freedom to kind of roam and be like a free-range chicken.”
“Once the work leaves your hands, you don’t get to control how it’s held.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
http://www.davidhorvitz.com/
https://www.instagram.com/davidhorvitz/?hl=en
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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The Artist Mastermind Circle: Ready to stop second-guessing and start building next level momentum in your art career? Applications are now open for the Artist Mastermind Circle—a six-month coaching programme for 25 mid-career artists serious about growing their income, network, opportunities and confidence.
Register by 6pm Monday 2nd February: Artist Mastermind Circle Application and take the next bold step. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6hXd1YpO5MvUq2oRqW3qyqte7BBn5CSkgHG76dXzBMbT66Q/viewform)
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
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Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
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Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Regulation is a creative skill - Anxiety keeps artists busy but stops them finishing. In the last episode, Ceri talked about the fact that you can't make work from a dysregulated life, that no amount of studio time will compensate for exhaustion, financial stress, unresolved anxiety, or a nervous system that never properly settles. Today, she goes a level deeper explaining why even when life is relatively stable, dysregulation still shows up inside the work itself, which is where a lot of artists get stuck.
Ceri demonstrates why artists need to stop waiting to relax after the work is done and instead regulate their emotional state before they step into the studio and shares how to do that.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
When your nervous system is dysregulated, your brain becomes conservative. It narrows options, avoids risk, and favours movement over resolution. So, starting something new feels safer than staying with something unfinished.
Finishing means deciding, committing, being seen - For an anxious nervous system, which feels like danger.
Your job as an artist is to walk into uncertainty on purpose and stay there long enough for something real to emerge. That’s emotional agility: the capacity to feel threat, doubt, visibility, and not bolt.
BEST MOMENTS
“Anxiety doesn't always stop you working. Sometimes it keeps you working endlessly so you never have to finish.”
“Regulation is not the reward for creative work. It's the capacity that determines what kind of work you're able to make in the first place.”
HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
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The Artist Mastermind Circle: Ready to stop second-guessing and start building next level momentum in your art career? Applications are now open for the Artist Mastermind Circle—a six-month coaching programme for 25 mid-career artists serious about growing their income, network, opportunities, and confidence.
Register by 6pm Monday 2nd February: Artist Mastermind Circle Application and take the next bold step. (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6hXd1YpO5MvUq2oRqW3qyqte7BBn5CSkgHG76dXzBMbT66Q/viewform)
Join our free webinar on Wednesday 21st January 6.30pm GMT where we introduce you to the coaching programme, walk you through the online hub, coach live, and answer your questions: Register here. https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/KVucmw1WRd2bsBWgPEfn1g#/registration
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
**
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
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Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
**
Discover Your Extraordinary Creativity
Visit www.cerihand.com to learn how we can help you become an extraordinary creative.
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today I’m joined by the brilliant Beth Greenacre, a curator, advisor, and art consultant whose career has unfolded quietly but powerfully at the centre of the art world. Beth began working with David Bowie in her twenties and went on to oversee the care, exhibition, and eventual sale of his collection, revealing a deeply personal way of looking, collecting and living with art.
Since then, she’s built a long-term, trust-led portfolio career advising private collectors, working with artists and estates, and curating exhibitions.
In this conversation, we talk about how collectors really make decisions, how intuition is really deeply embodied knowledge and why holding work back can be an act of integrity.
This is a rare, generous look inside how the art world actually works, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
KEY TAKEAWAYS
Be present. Build relationships patiently. Share your work carefully. Trust that confidence is learned, not bestowed.
Quality reveals itself over time, through deep looking, honest editing, and the courage to hold work back until it is ready to speak. Artists are not failing when recognition comes slowly. They’re building something with roots.
Working with David Bowie taught Beth that confidence isn’t about hierarchy or bravado. It’s about shared commitment, deep listening, and respect for the work.
BEST MOMENTS
“My purpose is to acknowledge, celebrate and give space to the power of art to change people's perspectives.”
“Nothing meaningful in the art world is built quickly. Not confidence. Not collections. Not trust.”
EPISODE RESOURCES
https://www.bethgreenacre.com
https://www.instagram.com/bethgreenacre_london
PODCAST HOST BIO
With over 35 years in the art world, Ceri has worked closely with leading artists and arts professionals, managed public and private galleries and charities, and curated more than 250 exhibitions and events. She has sold artworks to major museums and private collectors and commissioned thousands of works across diverse media, from renowned artists such as John Akomfrah, Pipilotti Rist, Rafael Lozano-Hemmer and Vito Acconci. Now, she wants to share her extensive knowledge with you, so you can excel and achieve your goals.
**
The Artist Mastermind Circle: Ready to stop second-guessing and start building next level momentum in your art career? Applications are now open for the Artist Mastermind Circle—a six-month coaching programme for 25 mid-career artists serious about growing their income, network, opportunities, and confidence.
Register by 6pm Monday 2nd February: Artist Mastermind Circle Application and take the next bold step. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6hXd1YpO5MvUq2oRqW3qyqte7BBn5CSkgHG76dXzBMbT66Q/viewform
Join our free webinar on Wednesday 21st January 6.30pm GMT where we introduce you to the coaching programme, walk you through the online hub, coach live, and answer your questions: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/KVucmw1WRd2bsBWgPEfn1g#/registration
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Ceri Hand Coaching Membership: Group coaching, live art surgeries, exclusive masterclasses, portfolio reviews, weekly challenges. Access our library of content and resource hub anytime and enjoy special discounts within a vibrant community of peers and professionals. Ready to transform your art career? Join today!
https://cerihand.com/membership/
**
Unlock Your Artworld Network Self Study Course
Our self-study video course, "Unlock Your Artworld Network," offers a straightforward 5-step framework to help you build valuable relationships effortlessly. Gain the tools and confidence you need to create new opportunities and thrive in the art world today.
https://cerihand.com/courses/unlock_your_artworld_network/
**
Book a Discovery Call Today
To schedule a personalised 1-2-1 coaching session with Ceri or explore our group coaching options, simply email us at hello@cerihand.com
This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/











