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PBJ is a weekly live show recorded at Presidio Bitcoin where 3 friends gather to make sense of bitcoin’s latest topics, from distilling technical concepts to discussing new ways to use bitcoin to determining its impact on the financial system. Join David King, Steve Lee, and Max Webster, longtime bitcoiners with deep roots in Silicon Valley, as they swap knowledge, challenge assumptions, and joust about the big questions of the day, bridging the gap between big tech and bitcoin. presidiobitcoin.substack.com
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0:00 Studio reset and laying down the law after technical issues
1:25 Mardi Gras whiplash and escaping the SF tech/AI bubble
2:35 Post-AGI life, work, and the “permanent underclass”
7:40 Presidio Bitcoin Index teaser
9:45 What “open source” means in an agent world
12:15 Ideating agent-native GitHub
16:05 OpenClaw ₿uilder meetup (SF) and March ₿uilder NYC at PubKey
19:40 Hackathon takeaways: vibe-coding enabling mass participation, exponential tooling leaps, Replit skepticism
29:40 Agentic payments primer: defining the terms and framing the landscape
39:00 Stablecoin UX reality: chain/pair explosion, gas complexity, and interoperability painpoints 52:40 Lightning as a simplifier: interoperability across wallets and consumer abstraction
56:20 KYC barriers for agents and liability questions
1:07:30 Agent-to-agent payment demo
1:10:10 Adoption strategy debate: seller adoption, agents as customers, and why there's urgency 1:27:50 OpenClaw joining OpenAI psyop speculation
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0:00 Sat tardiness fines
2:18 OpenClaw meetup recap
6:00 Why OpenClaw feels different than “just Claude”
8:58 “Is this already AGI?”
13:05 Ori explained: productized OpenClaw bot that joins group chats
15:54 Group chat vibecoding
20:27 Ori's moneydevkit (MDK) integration - frictionless, under the hood lightning payments as a hidden superpower
22:30 Tangible Ori examples: small-group bets, prediction markets, trivia payouts & more
29:05 “Is Ori private?” & the path to local/open-source models and safer enclaves
32:40 Agentic commerce: bots browsing, paying, zapping, hiring humans - internet gdp explosion thesis
48:20 Risks: addiction, prompt injection, and opsec
52:10 Ori onboarding ideas: welcomes, tips, custom memes, and how to get new groups to find the magic
1:16:08 Y Combinator funding in USDC
1:20:40 Cash App dollars as a supercharge for lightning adoption
1:25:30 Big payments on lightning & institutional use - what matters and where it could go
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0:00 Accountants telling merchants to turn off bitcoin acceptance? Shoutout to Satoshi Pacioli.
6:14 What the guys won at the Presidio Bitcoin Awards Night.
9:42 Block moving to the ₿ symbol, goodbye Sats!
15:07 Robots are making their own agreements that Bitcoin is the best.
20:37 Let's take a step back. What's happening here with Moltbook, Goose, etc?
30:20 The conversations happening on Moltbook. Who's an agent, a human?
35:22 SpaceX merging with xAI? Max's take on the future of Elon Co.
41:25 Autonomous cars and the future of driving. TLDR: Trust the curves.
49:16 Max's update on his vibecoding endeavors and conversations from the ₿uilder event at PB.
1:04:31 Flint has tons of ideas, but can we make a public forum where ideas can be crowdfunded?
1:06:36 Crypto is dying. Quantum, gold, a leverage wash, and correlation to Bitcoin.
1:14:12 If you're bullish AI, then you should be bullish bitcoin?
1:21:31 Is the rise of gold and silver good for bitcoin?
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0:00 DK is back in the studio, Hans Moravec's predictions, Deepmind hiring an AGI economist.
5:41 David Marcus and John Komkov's take on AI using and choosing Bitcoin. Google vs OpenAI.
10:17 BTC underperformance due to rotation into AI?
20:44 The GPU Marketplace to earn bitcoin and the economics of vibecoding.
27:50 Max's first foray into vibecoding with memepay.app.
38:40 How to make bitcoin win? One step, make Nostr work in Replit.
43:37 Why Steve thinks it's valuable to learn how to vibecode as a base for the future.
55:23 If you're interested in getting into vibecoding at the Presidio Bitcoin ₿uilder Event.
58:25 Update on Flint! We're ready for launch.
1:09:58 Max's magic moment with Replit was buying a URL.
1:14:33 Different pricing within prediction market platforms. Arbitrage with bitcoin?
1:19:34 Why is bitcoin underperforming? Is it Quantum, AI rotation, Metals, etc? Companies like Surge, working at Presidio Bitcoin, could help take a loan vs. selling.
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0:00 Penalizing tardiness and the “pot” idea
2:30 Current vibe coding frustrations & friction
11:50 Flint announced live on PBJ: why now, what it’s for, and who it’s for
20:10 Flint (Firewood) showcase: DK's vibe-coded app The Shed - Strava for piano
27:00 Nostr social graph and open identity as a powerful tool for vibe-coded apps
33:50 Discord vs Nostr: tooling gaps, bounties, zaps as signal
37:20 Another product idea: Version control for vibe-coding & vibe-coding workflow
40:08 More on the Flint vision: member expectations, community synergy & help, prompt-sharing, IP ownership & business creation
47:30 Bitcoin, Lightning, Nostr synergy with Flint: search & discover via zaps, working with core devs on feature sets for apps, ideas for Bitcoiners
59:40 Six overarching goals for Flint and the “breakout app” north star
1:02:24 Michael Saylor on What Bitcoin Did - takeaways
1:05:30 Michael Saylor's core lesson: Meet the world where it is (mandates, bitcoin as collateral, mandates, bridge products)
01:14:50 Comparing corporate Bitcoin treasuries & accumulation strategies - is it a competition? 01:32:10 Forward-looking thesis on labor and capital convergence: electricity, compute markets, & banking the robots
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0:00 Welcome to 2026! First bitcoin block, college basketball, mental resets & resolutions.
9:33 Strategies for reducing attention on algorithm-based platforms and even tools like Discord. 18:22 We blame Elon for starting the show late!
21:18 Wal-Mart accepts Bitcoin! (sorta)
25:55 Jack Dorsey's visit to Presidio Bitcoin. Exploring Bitcoin & AGI.
36:16 Bitcoin's digital gold SOV narrative vs everyday money and payments.
47:52 How can we accelerate bitcoin payments? Steve's experience using Money Dev Kit.
56:56 Amjad, of Replit, and Paul Graham, of YC, noticing Money Dev Kit for easy payments. 1:00:10 Prediction markets helpful in an economy with money printing distortions?
1:06:31 Can teenagers vibecode their way out of the gambling trap and do something positive?
1:20:28 What is this new Buck or BuckToken, and could it support Strategy's offerings?
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0:00 Does Max's Snoopy sweatshirt count as holiday flair?
3:00 Building timelocks in Bitcoin using vibe coding.
10:27 Is vibe coding secure enough for Bitcoin? If so, we have a ton of ideas!
19:08 Thoughts on creating a vibe coding community?
30:22 Our last show of 2025: Reviewing how we did with this year's predictions.
37:24 Okay, actually looking at Max's 2025 predictions.
45:53 How did DK and Steve do?
48:27 TLDR, we missed a LOT in 25!
50:21 Exploring the 4-year cycle. DK & Max say we're going higher!
54:38 DK's predictions for 2026.
58:26 Max's predictions for 2026.
1:21:53 Steve's singular NEW prediction: the Bitcoin ₿ symbol.
1:27:16 Contentious Forks, BCAP, and changing bitcoin.
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0:00 Celebrating our 50th episode a week late, Steve's travel to Iowa to watch basketball.
5:57 Generating ideas at PB & ₿uilder. Will Max actually build one using Gemini 3 or just befriend it?
11:50 Bitcoin Merchant Community is up to a couple thousand businesses. Join today!
19:28 Hivetalk Demo at ₿uilder, the numbers were impressive! Exploring other hacks with vibe coding.
24:16 Are the tools and hacks finally ready for a ton of ideas to be built?
29:00 BIP 353 Human Bitcoin Address Overview. What's your Bitcoin address?
40:20 Keeping the core principle of Bitcoin: Security, Censorship Resistance, & Privacy. Comparing address implementation types.
55:28 Other concerns of DNS-based addresses, such as locking from the domain provider.
1:01:05 Is there a way to own your address on Bitcoin to solve for this, like the Spaces protocol?
1:15:11 Experience buying and redeeming Fold's Gift Cards. Is this the best option to gift Bitcoin?
1:21:14 SHRINCS and the Quantum Threat to Bitcoin
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0:00 Changing of the seasons, visiting Japan, Green Tea, College basketball.
8:14 Prediction markets going mainstream. Gambling vs. investing and embracing life at the tails.
13:47 Steve and DK's disagreement with stocks, indexes, and the S&P 500.
17:08 Bitkey private purchasing for safe hardware delivery and avoiding attacks.
25:13 The BOSS challenge.
27:38 Will AI become more powerful and productive than Bitcoin Core contributors?
36:58 Should we be using LLMs to write BIPs or to make Bitcoin more powerful and secure?
43:13 As AI gets so good at hacking, Bitcoin will be the target.
47:50 Topics brought up at Block's Merchant event.
56:18 Driving forward the Bitcoin Merchant Community at Presidio Bitcoin.
1:03:38 Fold's Bitcoin Gift Cards.
1:11:15 AI bifurcation between locally run open-source and frontier models.
1:22:37 Using AI to empower us to do more of what we want to do.
1:28:19 Bitcoin is designed for situations where traditional payment flows don't work and will compound with time.
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0:00 This was (almost) our final show as we approach our one-year anniversary.
3:04 Spiral's wave 2 of merchant adoption
10:50 Organizing the incredible content and how to answer questions on Bitcoin usage
18:34 Takeaways and thoughts on Block's recent Investor Day and reception of Bitcoin
36:18 Quantum scare: why the sell-off happened and what’s the real risk
49:15 Migration mechanics, frozen vs burned coins, and the risk of a contentious fork
1:04:37 Japan carry trade worries, us debt math, and macro crash scenarios
1:13:46 Introducing MDK: faster path to shipping Bitcoin payments
1:25:05 Going head-to-head with Stripe - where Bitcoin can win
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0:00 It's good to be back to our regularly scheduled programming for the biggest week in Bitcoin.
3:16 Onboarding the 4 million Square merchants to Bitcoin.
8:01 Why Bitcoin payments could actually take off this time & integrating with BTC Map.
14:51 Why did Silicon Valley get Bitcoin wrong, and is it changing? A few barriers persist.
22:00 How do we sustain this momentum and continue to raise awareness among non-Bitcoiners? Fees are a huge driver of adoption.
32:20 CashApp users with dollar balances can pay Lightning invoices directly in dollars.
46:10 How these types of payments work for cross-border and currency conversions. This is the biggest announcement in Bitcoin.
52:32 Why would CashApp do Stablecoins and Lightning payments? Do they compete?
55:04 Spiral's efforts to arm the Bitcoin army with meaningful tools to drive adoption. Stablecoins don't have that!
1:14:57 Lava and lending on Bitcoin. Why do we still believe it is the biggest opportunity outside of casinos?
1:28:48 Thoughts on why they changed their model from non-custodial to custodial.
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Live from the Type I Summit at Presidio Bitcoin!
00:00 Type I summit recap: bet the curves
03:35 Rethinking nuclear & fusion optimism
07:17 Terawatt-scale AI demand & the “psychopath” builder
15:25 Ocean power, frontier energy & bitcoin/AI demand
19:39 Mega-project ideas: Bitcoin in space, virtual power, and more
27:27 When bitcoin mining crosses break-even
33:15 Could Bitcoin settle global energy trade?
43:50 Abundance vs limits: ethics, environment & governance
48:20 Deep-tech funding, Dyson sphere dreams & what’s next
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0:00 Happy Halloween! (Sorry for the audio issue!)
3:02 Fixed the mics! Only two people responded to Satoshi in the first 24 hours!
6:32 Facts from the 2008 Bitcoin White Paper launch. Same date as Martin Luther in 1517. Planned?
9:11 Numerology in the white paper? The beauty in the mystery of Satoshi.
14:30 Steak n Shake announced a strategic Bitcoin reserve in the "Square style" via payments and funding to Bitcoin.
20:24 Paying in Bitcoin in real life at merchants like Pink Owl Coffee and driving merchant adoption.
30:33 Revisiting the creation of a Bitcoin Merchant Association.
40:57 Making apps for everyday users and thinking through the complexity of options for payments.
53:35 Remaking traditional savings vehicles, like paper-based US Savings Bonds, using Bitcoin.
58:31 Strategy's STRC product is Tax-Free?
1:08:57 Unpacking the BIP 444 fork proposal and the history of how prior folks played out.
1:23:03 Running a node is not a vote, spending is.
1:26:12 Details on Max's Halloween costume.
1:29:28 Rapid Fire: Polymarket accepts Bitcoin. Predyx smooth UX. Brian reading the prediction market words on Coinbase earnings. Coreweave and Core deal fell apart. SimpleX messaging. Bitchat adoption in Jamaica during the hurricane.
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0:00 Welcome to the Presidio Zcash Jam and our similarities to the View.
1:29 Silicon Valley doesn't know you can build on Bitcoin.
4:02 Latest from the ₿uilder Meetup at Presidio Bitcoin.
7:36 Takeaways from Square's merchant product presentation at ₿uilder
14:44 Creating a Bitcoin Merchant Association or Chamber of Commerce?
19:49 30 days of Bitcoin this holiday season as a kickstart to merchant adoption?
25:16 Bitcoin is Square's path to global growth & other merchant adoption initiatives.
34:28 Takeaways from Fold's Head of Design & Guarana Bank presentations at ₿uilder.
41:24 Getting over the assumption that digital payments come with fees.
43:08 Why is Zcash rising in popularity? Unpacking different types of privacy.
53:02 Prioritize Austrian economic hard money or cypherpunk techno privacy?
57:57 Shoutout to the chain code delegation BIP
1:06:52 NBA off to a hot start on and off the court.
1:20:00 Strike's bitcoin-backed lines of credit. What's the difference between a loan?
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0:00 Hiking, biking, and growing food in the blue skies of SF
4:52 Signal messaging adopting Bitcoin? History, Considerations, & Paths Forward.
14:55 How Signals journey shows the difference between open & closed networks.
22:32 Concerns with various implementation architectures. Mints, KYC, MSB Regulations, etc.
27:21 Unpacking Cashu as an option for Signal.
35:47 Can an AI agent run the mint?
38:13 Resurfacing the Artificial Life conferences from the 90s and adding Bitcoin.
42:28 The new stickers to promote Bitcoin use at Square terminals!
47:30 Checking in on our homework from last week to ask merchants for Bitcoin acceptance.
53:08 Buying gold at Costco and making Bitcoin physical to drive adoption?
59:28 Why is gold mooning, and Bitcoin isn't?
1:05:32 Come to the ₿uilder event next Thursday at Presidio Bitcoin and Max's trip to Lightspark.
1:10:50 Max's takeaways on the token & stablecoin front, along with Lightspark's other products.
1:20:03 Rumor of Saylor on Rogan - is he the best spokesperson for Bitcoin? Here's our picks: Lyn Alden, Greg Maxwell, Andreas Antonopoulos, Andrew Meyers, and many others.
1:27:00 Elon tweeting about Bitcoin and Energy for the first time in years! Will he come to the Type I Summit?
1:28:17 Organizations funding Bitcoin development - Thank You!
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0:00 Orange phones, orange signs.
1:30 Updates from Berlin Conference, experiences around Berlin, experiencing history.
8:19 Steve's presentation on Spark at BTC++
10:35 Differences and interplay between Ark & Spark & Lightning.
14:36 How these technologies can bring more people into Bitcoin and how the tech is advancing.
22:57 TLDR: A compelling solution is being developed, and hats off to the Second.Tech team.
24:56 What is the takeaway on the state of Lightning and adoption?
33:28 Square just enabled Bitcoin on merchant terminals, hopefully normalizing the use of Bitcoin.
43:54 Max's trip to orange pill the complexity science group at the Santa Fe Institute.
49:13 The importance of the difficulty adjustment to Bitcoin and why there is a Nobel prize hidden within.
53:14 Recapping Presidio Bitcoin's first Nostr event! Awesome Nostr GitHub is a great tool to explain the tech!
57:48 Audience engagement: How to bring merchants on board to Bitcoin.
1:02:42 Takeaways from the Freedom of the Press event in SF.
1:07:30 What is Chat Control, and what does it mean for end-to-end encrypted messaging?
1:14:30 Updates on the Type1 Summit at Presidio Bitcoin and why we need to build a new grid to meet energy demand.
1:23:58 What we hope to emerge from the Summit.
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CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS:
0:00 Why we changed the time this week, Open Source & Corporations, wearing suits.
7:40 OP_Return, V30, and what is top of mind for the business-oriented community.
10:00 Unpacking the mechanics of the claim that Bitcoin will die due to illicit content.
20:35 Why make these changes? Revisiting the mining centralization concern and offerings like Slipstream from Mara & Mempool Accelerator.
31:17 Is this whole thing just a distraction or even an attack? The importance of the ease of running a node.
34:04 You can already store images on Bitcoin via inscriptions, which are 4MB vs 1MB in OP_Return
39:10 Why Mining Centralization and UTXO bloat are fights worth fighting.
41:22 Are people taking this to the point of a hard fork, and is that wrong, or a slippery slope?
45:20 We don't know of a mechanism to stop spam on Bitcoin, except for the historical solution of fees.
46:39 Sharing an exciting new project advancing Bitcoin payments is being built with Replit.
51:10 Another company, Cloudflare, is launching a centralized chain for agents using stablecoins.
54:12 Importance of reputation and building with Nostr.
1:02:42 Are the AI-generated videos from Vibes dystopian? Managing attention is the modern world.
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0:00 — Early hype and the payments mistake (2010–2013)
03:35 — Who “gets” bitcoin? Trust vs smarts
09:57 — Better tools & the new builder era
12:51 — The next breakout Bitcoin company: infrastructure to applications
23:09 — AI changes things: timelines, payments, investor incentives & global access
37:11 — How to think about spending and holding dollars?
42:01 — Silicon Valley’s ZIRP psychology
44:56 — The litmus test of Bitcoin understanding
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In this episode, the crew explores the path to a Type 1 Civilization powered by Bitcoin, AI, and solar — and previews the upcoming Type 1 Summit at Presidio Bitcoin. They break down the Billionaire Flippening thesis, where bitcoin billionaires surpass fiat billionaires and redirect wealth into things like open-source alternatives and philanthropy. Finally, they unpack Apple’s new iPhone security upgrade, Memory Integrity Enforcement (MIE), and how it reflects bitcoin’s ethos of privacy and resilience.
CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS:
00:00 Welcome
05:40 What Is a Type 1 Civilization?
08:00 Energy, AI, and Bitcoin
12:00 Solar Maximalism & Cost Curves
17:53 The AI Data Center Boom
23:00 Grid Bottlenecks & Financing Risk
29:00 Bitcoin’s Role in Energy Financing
32:04 Infrastructure Challenges and the Future of Energy
40:00 Real-Time Markets
43:45 Type 1 Summit Logistics
49:00 The Billionaire Flippening
55:00 Bitcoin Billionaires & Wealth Distribution
1:01:43 The Role of Gold in Modern Investment
1:05:19 Understanding Gold vs Bitcoin
1:18:00 Bitcoin is the Metric System of Money
1:20:24 Apple’s New iPhone & Memory Integrity Enforcement
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0:00 DK is back in the studio next week! Swimming in cold water and using a wetsuit.
3:40 Breaking News: Spark announces Stablecoins on Bitcoin and unpacking who will win in the stablecoin landscape.
10:28 Unpacking Spark, how it works, and its three structures.
18:57 How Spark uses state chains to get scaling.
27:40 Differences with Spark and other blockchains, like the new GCUL from Google.
32:56 How payments across services would work using payment trees.
42:42 What is the happy path using payment trees, and what motivates entities?
49:08 This is the early thesis of banks from early bitcoiners being played out.
55:22 Does this mean everyone is coming for Visa?
1:08:59 The Spark trust model: Is it self-custody or is the term 'Trustodial' more accurate?
1:15:29 Where will value accrue in this market? The issuer, the chain, service providers, bridges, etc.
1:19:38 Are we about to watch the next age of free banking?
1:22:28 A no-KYC payment user experience can help onboard people and agents to Bitcoin.
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