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For the Sake of the Argument with Lori Goldman

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On For the Sake of the Argument, Lori Goldman sits down with Michigan’s elected officials to talk policy, real life, and ask the kinds of questions that make press secretaries sweat.

For the Sake of the Argument is a Distill Social production.
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Justin Onwenu, Detroit Director of Entrepreneurship and Economic Opportunity and former organizer for One Fair Wage, discusses his run for the 1st State Senate District in Michigan. Onwenu talks about his experience working for the city, his top issues for the state legislature, how he would curtail the power of DTE in Lansing, and much more.Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Michigan State Rep. Kristian Grant (HD-82) joins the show to talk about housing affordability, building on-ramps and off-ramps for the housing market, safety considerations for housing construction, and what Democrats should be focused on moving forward.Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Today, Lori is joined by Michigan State Representative Natalie Price as she details her harrowing visit to Minnesota. Price speaks about her experience witnessing the ICE occupation, what the Michigan state legislature can do to stop things here from getting that bad, and what individuals can do to help those in our communities.
Lori is joined by Abraham Aiyash to talk about his bid for Michigan Senate district. Find out his top three legislative priorities as well as some insider information on just how deep the DTE rot goes throughout the Michigan legislature.
State Representative Mai Xiong joins Lori on today's episode to chat about ICE's recent abuses and how she's taking a unique stand. She also shares her families harrowing refugee story and how that has shaped her and her politics.Support the show: ⁠www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
This episode was first aired on July 29, 2025State Senator and candidate for US Senate in Michigan Mallory McMorrow joins the show to discuss her time as a state senator, how she plans to reach voters from now through 2026, her stance on universal healthcare, and what Democrats should be doing to reclaim power throughout the country. Follow the show on all social media: https://linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Christina Hines, candidate for Michigan's 10th Congressional District, joins the show to talk about the major issues facing Michigan, including healthcare costs, billionaires meddling in politics, Trump's mass deportation effort, and more. In addition, Hines offers her view on Trump's illegal abduction of Nicolas Maduro. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Joanna Whaley, candidate for Michigan State House District 2, joins the pod to discuss her time in the Evangelical church, how her transgender identity plays a role in her faith, the economic issues facing House District 2, and growing the threat of Christian nationalism. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Miriam Stone joins the show to discuss the kidnapping of her brother, Ernesto, by ICE. If you want to help Miriam's family, visit their GoFundMe page. GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-bring-ernesto-home-to-his-wife-and-child
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel joins the show to discuss the data center being constructed in Saline without public input, its effects on the local community, the redactions in the contract, and how we can push back.www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
This is a rerun of my interview with Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, originally released on 8/19/2025.Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, candidate for US Senate in Michigan, joins the show to discuss Medicare for All, his positions on foreign policy, what it takes to represent the people in a corrupt political system, and much more.If you enjoy the show, please support us on social media: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Dr. Pamela Pugh joins the show to discuss her experience on the Michigan Board of Education, her reasoning behind running for the vacant Senate district, her qualifications for office, and much more.Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Note: No episode coming next week!Christy McGillivray, Executive Director of Voters Not Politicians, joins the show to discuss corporate money in politics, the ballot petition VNP is working on to stop it, the problem of AI data centers in Michigan, and much more. Support the petition: ⁠www.mopupmichigan.org⁠Support the show: ⁠www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument⁠
William Lawrence, a Democratic candidate for Michigan's 7th Congressional District, joins the show to talk about the failures of Representative Tom Barrett, William focuses on affordability, Medicare for All, and so much more. Support the show here: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Karen McDonald, Oakland County Prosecutor, former judge, and candidate for Michigan Attorney General, joins Lori to discuss what she sees as the biggest problems facing Michiganders, dealing with accusations of "lawfare", her position on corporate money in politics, protecting Michigan from federal overreach, and much more.If you want to support the show, be sure to follow on all platforms! www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Apologies for the missed episode last week, we had a scheduling issue, but we are back this week with another interview!Aghogho Edevbie, Michigan's Deputy Secretary of State and candidate for Secretary of State, joins the show to discuss his qualifications for promotion, his plans for the office if he wins next year, threats to Michigan's democracy, and much more. If you want to support the show, check us out on social media: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargumentLori's book: http://www.fffbook.net/
Terrence Martin, President of the American Federation of Teachers in Michigan, joins the show to discuss the biggest issues facing Michigan schools, attacks on Michigan teachers, and the importance of unions broadly. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargumentTerrence's show: https://www.youtube.com/@browncouchbruhz313
Michigan Democratic Party Chair Curtis Hertel joins the show to discuss the present state of the Democratic Party, how MI Democrats are pushing back on Trump, what Democrats missed in 2024, and how we can remain optimistic in this era. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
TRIGGER WARNING: Discussions of sexual and physical violenceMichigan Representative Laurie Pohutsky (D-17) joins the show to discuss her career so far, her view on the intraparty debate for the Democrats, the various ways in which she has been threatened as a public official, and how women should be prepared to engage with politics.Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Huwaida Arraf, a human/civil rights attorney and participant in a recent humanitarian flotilla headed to Gaza, joins the show to discuss her experience being detained by the IDF, the moral urgency of fighting for an arms embargo, and how our political decisions on the issue of Israel & Gaza should reflect the will of the voters. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
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