The Missional Leader

What happens when seasoned leaders and rising voices sit down as peers, not just to teach but learn from each other? In this special “living room” edition of The Missional Leader, Rob is joined by two trailblazing friends and young leaders: Charlee Tchividjian, a passionate founder radically reshaping foster care prevention, and André Ito Gonçalves, a former Netflix executive turned global church planter and marketing leader. Together with these young leaders, Rob reflects on his experience in launching the podcast and how he values continuous learning from emerging nextgen voices.  Charlee shares her journey from a difficult, faith-shaping upbringing to founding EMA.org, a flourishing nonprofit helping thousands of at-risk moms stay with their children, reflecting on how pain, risk, and Spirit-led conviction formed her leadership. Andre unpacks “polycentric leadership” with Rob, a fluid multi-vocational approach to calling, and how mentorship across ages can unlock personal purpose and Kingdom impact. Rob reflects on the “ikigai” framework, and how leaders can discern their unique calling at the intersection of passion, skill, need, and sustainability in a rapidly-changing world. Whether you’re mentoring or being mentored, building something new or stewarding something established, this episode offers practical insight and honest encouragement for leaders who believe the future is built together - across generations. Episode Guide: Access a resource designed to help you reflect and learn from this episode conversation! https://robhoskins.onehope.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TML-S2-E4-Charlee-Tchividjian-Andre-Ito-Goncalves-Episode-Guide-1.pdfIkigai Framework: What Do I Do With My Life? Polycentric Leadership Gen Alpha Research: A Worldwide Look at the Most Connected & Curious Generation  EMA (Every Mother’s Advocate)— Ministry founded by Charlee Tchividjian to support mothers at risk of losing custody.Dunamis Movement / Zion Church | Dunamis Movement— Brazilian-based movement and church led by Teo Hayashi.The Send— Global missions movement referenced in context of Brazilian stadium events.CHAPTERS:00:00 7 Months, 1.2 Million Downloads: A Surprising Milestone02:17 Charlee’s Wild-Child Story and Africa Turning Point05:00 Every Mother’s Advocate: Preventing Foster Care Crisis07:43 From Netflix to Ministry: André’s Polycentric Leadership Journey12:45 Building a Global, Intergenerational Podcast Community15:13 Behind the Mic: Audience Stories of Transformation18:02 Deep Dives vs. Longform: The Show’s Conversation Format20:51 Authenticity & Completion Rates: Podcast’s Unusual Success24:49 Most Impactful Episodes: Founder Stories and Legacy27:16 Bob’s Faith and the Power of Fresh Anointing29:35 Risk, Innovation, and Failures: Lessons from YouVersion33:04 Real-Time Application: Leadership Through Failure34:42 Dunamis Movement & The Send: Mobilizing Missions at Scale37:41 Discipleship Deep Dive: Filling the Global Leadership Vacuum39:32 The Ikigai Model: Finding Purpose in Calling46:49 Serving to Find Vision: Breaking the Calling Paralysis47:54 The Real Meaning of Ministry: Beyond the Pulpit51:42 Calling and Purpose: Not Just for the “Elite”53:34 Avoiding Comparison: Courage for Individual Vocations56:25 Closing: Join the Community & What’s Next for Season 2Rob's Socials: https://www.instagram.com/robdeanhoskins/https://www.facebook.com/robhoskins/https://x.com/robhoskinshttps://www.threads.com/@robdeanhoskinshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hoskins-3646454/

Is AI a powerful tool for the Kingdom—or a ticking time bomb in the hands of the church? In this episode, Rob sits down with returning guest Bobby Gruenewald, founder and CEO of YouVersion, to tackle the hard questions surrounding generative AI at the intersection of faith and technology.With over half of OneHope’s global reach now digital, and the rapid rise of generative AI making headlines worldwide, Rob and Bobby pull back the curtain on their own wrestling with the promises and pitfalls of this revolutionary technology. From initial enthusiasm to ethical hesitation, Bobby candidly shares how he’s navigating both hope and real-world concerns as he stewards the world’s most popular Bible app—and why this moment may be more transformational (or dangerous) than many imagine.Discover why Bobby believes the hype around AI is rarely as simple as utopia or dystopia, and why it’s vital for Christian leaders to cut through the noise with discernment and wisdom. You’ll hear unfiltered stories from the front lines: the unexpected hazards uncovered when testing AI “Bible bots,” the non-negotiables for theological accuracy and safety, and why technology’s “messy middle” demands humility, not fear.If you care about digital evangelism, ministry innovation, and the future of the church in an AI-driven world, this episode will equip you with questions, cautions, and conviction for the road ahead.Subscribe for more conversations like this—where truth, technology, and mission meet.Episode Guide: Access a resource designed to help you reflect and learn from this episode conversation! https://robhoskins.onehope.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TML-S2-E3-Bobby-Gruenewald-Episode-Guide-.pdfYouVersion Bible App— Bible app founded by Bobby Gruenewald; frequently referenced as “the Bible app”https://www.youversion.com/the-bible-app/Gloo— Mentioned as a ministry/tech partner and for an AI study on Bible accuracyhttps://gloo.com/CHAPTERS:00:00 Utopian vs. Dystopian Tech Narratives01:06 Generative AI: Hype, Concerns, and Kingdom Use03:10 Early Adoption and Digital Evangelism Realities05:05 Why YouVersion Held Off on AI Chatbots08:56 Shocking Flaws in Christian AI Tools12:56 AI Prompt Test: 14-Year-Old Scenario14:46 The Real Harm of Unsafe AI in Ministry18:02 Scripture Accuracy: 85% Isn’t Good Enough19:54 Three Harnesses: Safety, Accuracy, Theology22:31 Embracing Reality and Promise of Tech23:09 Unique Risks: AI Sounds Human, Gets Facts Wrong

What does it take to communicate the gospel with both grit and grace - across cultures, controversies, and generations? In this episode, Rob sits down with Christine Caine -  international speaker, founder of A21, and Propel Women, and a relentless advocate for living on mission.Known for her dynamic presence and prophetic teaching, Christine offers an unfiltered look into how she prepares to speak life, truth, and hope to audiences as diverse as global stadiums, small groups, and churches with widely varying theological traditions. Discover how she crafts every message with radical intentionality, starting with prayerful discernment and deep contextual understanding of audiences.Key highlights from this conversation:Christine Caine reveals why she never steps on stage without first seeking a fresh word from God—not just a well-rehearsed sermon, but a Spirit-led assignment for that audience in that season.Learn her method of tailoring messages for every context, from large-scale evangelism to delicate theological environments, all while staying faithful to the core of the gospel.Listen in as she shares how she keeps the “back row” in mind above all, focusing on activating everyday people—not impressing front-row critics or gatekeepers.If you want to level up how you communicate truth without compromising conviction—or just want a behind-the-scenes look at one of the church’s most faithful voices—this episode is for you.Subscribe now for more empowering conversations like this on The Missional Leader.SHOW NOTE LINKS:Access the Episode Guide: https://robhoskins.onehope.net/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TML-S2-E2-Christine-Caine-Episode-Guide-.pdfThis is a resource designed to help you reflect and learn from this episode conversation! Propel Women: https://www.propelwomen.orgA21 Campaign: https://www.a21.org/ TIMESTAMPS: CHAPTERS:00:00 Sent on Assignment: Beyond Just a Nice Message02:23 Adapting Messages for Diverse Church Contexts05:04 Balancing Theology and Storytelling Across Audiences08:18 Navigating Gender Bias in Public Ministry10:09 Joyce Meyer’s Advice: Focus on Serving, Not Impressing12:10 Prioritizing the Audience’s Needs in Message Preparation14:14 Sourcing Inspiration: Devotionals, Journals, and Timely Insights16:11 Digital Note-Taking: Organizing Ideas for Preaching18:29 Avoiding Trendy Topics for Evergreen Relevance20:00 Handwritten Craft: Building a Message from Introduction to Conclusion22:44 The Intertwining of Devotional Life and Sermon Prep23:21 Preaching to the Back Row: Advice to Last a Lifetime25:00 Speaking to Monday, Not Just Sunday: Practical Applications27:29 Spirit-Led Flexibility: Changing Messages in the Moment

How can Christian leaders stay grounded in biblical truth while leading with courage and conviction in a polarized world?In this episode of The Missional Leader, Rob Hoskins sits down with Dr. Ed Stetzer — president of Talbot School of Theology at Biola, leader of the Lausanne Movement in North America, and one of today’s most trusted missiologists and cultural voices. Together, they unpack what it means to lead fearlessly in an age of outrage: how to speak truth with grace, engage culture without compromise, and model a faith that is both courageous and kind.From Ed’s roots as the son of a New York City construction worker to his decades of global leadership, this candid and humorous conversation offers practical insight for pastors, ministry leaders, and kingdom-minded influencers who want to stand firm for truth while leading while remaining compassionate.Resources mentioned in this episode: Episode Guide - Access a new podcast resource designed to help you reflect and apply the learnings from this episode conversation! Biola University: https://www.biola.edu/ Talbot School of Theology at Biola University: https://www.biola.edu/talbot The Lausanne Movement (North America): https://lausanne.org/ TIMESTAMPS: CHAPTERS:00:00 Christians Avoiding Truth: Fear of Speaking Out03:37 Navigating Controversial Issues as a Christian Leader05:20 Humor, Social Media, and “Whimsical Ed”06:48 Growing Thick Skin: Handling Criticism from All Sides08:58 Figuring Out Truth When Both Sides Disagree10:08 Calling Out Wrong on “Your Own Side”12:00 Broad Evangelicalism: Unity Amidst Difference15:01 Civil Disagreement and Fair Critique in Public Writing18:15 Firm Center, Soft Edges: Vision for Evangelicalism19:42 Criticizing Both Sides: Being an “Umpire,” Not a Team Player22:09 Fivefold Gifts: Ed’s Calling and Passion for Mission24:19 Getting Angry for Justice: Writing from Passion27:57 Persuasion Through Winsomeness—Not Just Outrage29:04 Balancing Humor on Social Media—and When It Backfires31:59 Social Media Vibe Shift: Staying True Amid Toxicity33:35 Living Transparently: Fearless Leadership and Apology

For today’s season finale of The Missional Leader, Rob gets the privilege of sitting down with his dad—Bob Hoskins, evangelist, missionary, and founder of OneHope—for an inspiring conversation reflecting on Bob’s life of courageous hope and relentless obedience to God’s call. From preaching his first sermon at age seven to launching global outreaches in war zones and restricted nations, Bob shares the extraordinary journey chronicled in his new autobiography, Courageous Hope. Together, father and son reveal how humble prayer, unwavering faith, and a willingness to risk everything shaped a movement that has now reached over 2 billion young people with God’s Word.Resources mentioned in this episode: Courageous Hope: Living on the Edge of Faith: bobhoskins.co/ch TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Power of Prayer: A Miraculous Escape02:43 John Maxwell's Advice—“It's God's Story, Not Yours”05:05 Prayer Over Fear: Facing Danger Head-On08:44 Terrorists at the Door: Lebanon’s Near-Death Encounter10:24 Prayer Alignment: Miraculous Timing and Protection12:04 “Why Should Anyone Hear the Gospel Twice?”—Mission Calling15:05 “Just Do It”—Practical Advice for Stepping Out in Faith19:56 Miracles Unfold: The Deaf Girl Hears in Guyana22:17 Healing Miracle: Hindu Family Transformed24:33 “Power Is in the Seed”—Evangelism Through Literature27:06 Vision for One Hope: Reaching Every Child Globally29:41 Facing Death with Faith and Hope31:13 Legacy of Courage and Obedience—Lessons for the Next Generation

As Africa quickly becomes the epicenter of global Christianity, is the Church prepared to empower its next generation? In this episode of The Missional Leader, Rob is joined by Pastor Julius Rwotlonyo, Team Leader of Watoto Church, one of Africa’s most vibrant and influential churches. Together, they explore why Africa’s youthful energy and spiritual vibrancy represent both an incredible opportunity and pressing challenge for the worldwide Church.This conversation dives deep into the story of Watoto Church—a movement in Uganda transforming lives by rescuing vulnerable children, equipping women, and planting churches in some of the continent’s most underserved regions. Pastor Rwotlonyo, who came to faith as a child in Watoto and now leads the church through explosive growth and social innovation, shares his vision for empowering young Africans—not just as future leaders, but as change-makers today. Resources mentioned in this episode: OneHope Africa Matching Challenge: https://onehope.net/donateWatoto Church: https://watotochurch.com/. Miscio: https://www.miscio.io/OneHope’s God’s Big Story & Unstoppable Programs: https://onehope.net/programs/. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Africa as the Rising Epicenter of Christianity02:39 The Watoto Church Story and Julius’s Journey05:02 Blending Social Outreach and Spiritual Discipleship06:14 Transforming Orphan Care: The Family Model08:03 Empowering Vulnerable Women Beyond Charity09:03 Uganda’s Shift from Poverty Through Church-Led Development10:56 Africa’s Youth: Unmatched Potential and Challenges11:35 Disconnect Between Faith and Daily Life in Africa13:50 Research Reveals Uganda’s Actual Spiritual Resiliency15:15 One Hope’s Impact: Reaching 78 Million Children18:03 Church Planting Among Unreached Muslim and Animistic Groups20:04 Gen Z’s Questions: Discipleship in a Digital Age21:03 Mental Health Struggles and Church Responses25:26 Empowering African Girls: Esther’s Unstoppable Journey27:08 Gen Z Movements, Social Unrest, and Church Engagement29:27 Rethinking Christian Higher Education for Societal Change32:10 Equipping the Now Generation: Empowering African Youth34:05 Redefining Youth Ministry: Children as Church Leaders38:05 $1M Matching Gift: Reaching 6 Million African Youth39:53 Malik’s Story: From Muslim Street Child to Hope-Filled Leader

In this special episode of The Missional Leader, Rob sits down with Bobby Gruenewald, founder and CEO of YouVersion and the visionary behind the Bible App, to unpack one of the most remarkable digital movements of our time.Join Rob as he and Bobby  celebrate a historic and timely milestone for the Bible App: one billion installs. With November marking Global Bible Month and the official crossing of this historicthreshold, Bobby shares what it means for the future of Bible engagement and how everyone can join in this global celebration.--------Resources mentioned in this episode: YouVersion Beyond a Billion Celebration & Global Bible Month: https://www.life.church/billionOneHope 30 Day Reading Plans for Children, Youth, and Parents:https://www.bible.com/organizations/d6634491-2d45-4e2f-81b3-f8ade04f4494YouVersion Bible app: https://www.youversion.com/ Bible App for Kids: https://www.bible.com/kids. Kids Bible Experience: https://www.bible.com/organizations/09d8dc67-6b79-4db8-95fb-b9055258b85bYouVersion Instagram - Times Square Footage: https://www.instagram.com/youversion/?hl=en--------TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Timely Episode: The Billion Bible App Milestone01:41 Surpassing Expectations: Billion Installs Arrive Early02:59 Digital Bible Growth Sparks Print Sales Surge05:21 Global Bible Month: Uniting Apps and Partners06:51 Lighting Up Times Square with the Bible08:30 Amazon Prime Celebrates Global Bible Month09:54 Arena Event: Worship Night for a Billion Installs10:40 Who Uses YouVersion? A Global, Multigenerational Audience12:58 Expanding Features: Gamification and Video Content14:22 Bible App for Kids: Reaching 170 Million Young Users15:41 Engagement Metrics: How Depth of Use Is Measured17:24 The Power of Four: Bible Engagement Changes Lives18:33 The Generosity Model: 58,000 Donors Power Free Access20:27 Next Milestones: Reaching Two and Three Billion Installs21:30 30-Day Bible Reading Plans for All Ages--------Rob's Socials: https://www.instagram.com/robdeanhoskins/https://www.facebook.com/robhoskins/https://x.com/robhoskinshttps://www.threads.com/@robdeanhoskinshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hoskins-3646454/

Can young people truly build a world-class church—in the heart of one of the world’s most expensive, influential, and diverse cities? On today’s episode of The Missional Leader, Rob talks with Pastor Tan Seow How, co-founder of Heart of God Church (HOGC) in Singapore—a thriving young adult church known for flipping the script on what church can be for the next generation.Globally recognized for its “by youth, for youth, to reach youth” approach, HOGC is breaking boundaries in a city famed for finance, fun, and cultural pluralism. Pastor How shares the remarkable story of how he and his wife, Pastor Lia, followed a bold calling to build a ministry where belonging comes first—empowering thousands of young people, many from non-church backgrounds, to discover faith and purpose. Plus, Pastor How shares strategies for building community across Singapore’s church population and how collaboration among young pastors and leaders is paving the way for a new era of mission-driven unity.Resources mentioned in this episode: Heart of God Church: https://heartofgodchurch.org/ Rob’s Outreach article on HOGC: https://outreachmagazine.com/features/82687-the-greatest-youth-church-in-the-world.html TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Flipping the Church Belonging Model for Gen Z05:52 Heart of God Church: A Youth-Led Experiment09:18 Building a Church by Youth, for Youth: The Miracle Story11:23 Church as Home: Kids from Broken Families Find Belonging15:53 Empowering Youth as Immediate Leaders and Servants19:56 Behind the Scenes: Young Teens Run the Church Operations23:01 Balancing Success and Purpose in Affluent Singapore32:28 Discipling Gen Z: Navigating Truth in a Digital Age36:05 Relational Equity: The Key to Teaching Biblical Values40:02 High Touch vs High Tech: Why Youth Choose Physical Church43:34 Youth Unity: Singapore's Next Generation Churches Collaborate45:24 Mission-Driven Unity: Gen Z’s Collaborative Spirit46:54 Closing Blessing: Building Models for the Next Generation

What if the greatest opportunities for sharing the Gospel are found where the opposition is strongest? In this episode of The Missional Leader, Rob talks with Dr. Barry Corey, president of Biola University and a leading voice in Christian higher education. For almost two decades, Dr. Corey has led through the challenges of culture, politics, and faith in the heart of Southern California, one of the most progressive areas in the United States.—From his New England roots to leading in California’s shifting cultural landscape, Dr. Corey , shares vulnerably about the burdens and breakthroughs of leadership, and what it means to stay grounded in biblical truth while boldly engaging today’s world. Resources mentioned in this episode: Biola University: https://www.biola.edu/ Washington Post Op-Ed: "We first battled over LGBT and religious rights. Here’s how we became friends." by Barry Corey and Evan Low: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/03/03/we-first-battled-over-lgbt-and-religious-rights-heres-how-we-became-unlikely-friends/ Doritos Super Bowl commercial made by Biola film students: https://www.biola.edu/blogs/biola-news/2025/biola-alumni-on-their-way-to-crash-the-super-bowl OneHope Research - Gen Alphahttps://onehope.net/global-outreach/research/CHAPTERS:00:00 Trusting God’s Tailwinds in Leadership01:12 The Life-Changing Bob Cooley Mentorship02:28 Necessary: Flourishing Under the Weight of Leadership03:50 Surviving and Thriving in Challenging Higher Ed Climates05:32 Leading Christian Education in Progressive California07:48 God’s Tailwinds vs. Cultural Headwinds09:49 Building Unexpected Friendships Across Ideological Divides12:48 Listening to Learn, Not Just to Respond15:19 Firm Center, Soft Edges: Biola’s Approach to Controversy17:39 Balancing Truth and Grace in University Culture20:13 Excellence as Apologetics: Biola’s Award-Winning Doritos Story22:35 Avoiding the Culture War Mentality24:00 Ensuring Deep Biblical Foundations for Students25:55 Hopeful Signs and Concerns for the Next Generation28:46 Lessons from Europe’s “Quiet Revival”30:14 Challenging Churches to Deepen Discipleship for Gen Z

Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing—Oxford-trained theologian and leading Christian apologist—is captivating Gen Z by combining deep biblical theology with with a disarming, whimsical love for people.In this episode of The Missional Leader, Amy shares her remarkable journey from atheistic family roots to a transformative encounter with Jesus, and how that awakening propelled her to engage the toughest questions at the world’s leading universities. Together with Rob, she explores how the church can faithfully respond to a generation grappling with anxiety, identity, and a hunger for truth. With clarity and compassion, Amy models a trinitarian, Spirit-empowered approach to apologetics that wins both hearts and minds — one that values persuasion over pride and empathy over ego.Resources mentioned in this episode:OneHope Research - Gen Alpha and Gen Z:https://onehope.net/global-outreach/researchFeed - Core Questions Devotional: https://feed.bible/core-questions"The Quiet Revival" Research Report, Bible Society:https://theresource.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/The-Quiet-Revival.pdfCHAPTERS:00:00 Persuading Heart and Mind: Pascal’s Approach to Apologetics02:55 Childhood Atheism to Apologist: Amy’s Unlikely Journey04:04 Supernatural Encounter: Early Experience with Healing07:53 Oxford Ultimatum: Career or Christ?09:39 The Hidden Intolerance of Secular Academia11:41 Arguments vs. Heart: Winning People, Not Just Debates13:43 Facing a Panel: Spiritual and Intellectual Showdown16:02 Courage, Fear, and Holy Spirit Empowerment18:23 Confronting a Mob: Listening to Angry Students21:26 Righteous Rage, Broken World: Turning Anger into Apologetics24:37 Anxiety & Toxic Certainty: New Generation, New Challenges28:20 Jordan Peterson Effect: Why Young Men Seek Church29:51 Church’s Call: Preach a Robust, Demanding Faith30:25 Preparation Meets Dependence: Mind on Fire, Heart ReliantRob's Socials: https://www.instagram.com/robdeanhoskins/https://www.facebook.com/robhoskins/https://x.com/robhoskinshttps://www.threads.com/@robdeanhoskinshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hoskins-3646454/

What does it take to raise a generation that doesn’t just attend church, but actually transforms culture? In this episode of The Missional Leader, Rob sits down with Teo Hayashi, one of the youngest and most influential leaders in the global church, founder of the Dunamis Movement, and lead pastor of Zion Church, whose vision is igniting a wave of young leaders across Brazil and beyond.Born in Japan and raised in Brazil, Teo’s multicultural story and supernatural encounters have fueled a movement that has grown from a small gathering in São Paulo to a multi-campus megachurch impacting nations across Europe, Asia, Africa, and the Americas. Together, Rob and Teo unpack how the Church can disciple the next generation with passion and purpose, moving beyond Sunday services to a lifestyle of mission, revival, and cultural renewal.Teo mentions the eradication of systemic poverty in 4 areas:- Spiritual- Relational- Vocational- MaterialTo read more about this conversation:https://robhoskins.onehope.net/from-revival-to-reformation-teo-hayashi-on-discipling-a-generationthat-transforms-culture/If you care about the future of the Church and how to equip young leaders to shape society, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.Resources Mentioned in this Episode:The Gospel of the Kingdom, by George Eldon Laddhttps://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Kingdom-Scriptural-Studies-God/dp/1614270562The Gospel in a Pluralist Society, by Lesslie Newbiginhttps://www.amazon.com/Gospel-Pluralist-Society-Lesslie-Newbigin/dp/0802804268To Change the World: The Irony, Tragedy, and Possibility of Christianity in the Late Modern World, by James Davidson Hunterhttps://www.amazon.com/Change-World-Tragedy-Possibility-Christianity/dp/0199730806Modalities and Sodalities, The Two Structures of God's Redemptive Mission, by Ralph Wintershttps://munsonmissions.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/606d6-two-structures-gods-redemptive-mission-winter.pdfThe Send Brazilhttps://thesend.org/pt-br/Dunamis Movement (revival and next gen)https://dunamismovement.com/site/en/CHAPTERS:00:00 Rethinking Church: Local Care and Global Mission03:31 Teo’s Multicultural Roots and Family Mission Story07:33 Choosing Between Movement and Local Church10:32 Balancing Mega Church with Missional Movement12:16 Embracing Energy in Ministry Tension13:45 Gospel of the Kingdom vs. Gospel of Salvation17:14 Why Brazil’s Church Growth Lacks Societal Change20:19 Equipping Young People for Vocational Purpose23:02 Four KPIs for Measuring Church Transformation27:36 Deep Discipleship in a Megachurch Context29:09 Teo’s Global Apostolic Vision for Zion Church

To learn more about Kingdomcity Church, visit https://kingdomcity.com. You can also learn more on Kingdomcity's YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/kingdomcity. How does a ministry grow from one city to 40 campuses in 22 countries, and still stay true to its calling? In this episode of The Missional Leader, Rob sits down with Kingdomcity Church founder Mark Varughese to unpack how revival culture, unity, and trust can scale across nations without compromise. With a unique global perspective – born in Singapore, raised in Malaysia, of Indian descent, and holding an Australian passport – Mark shares the leadership principles, cultural insights, and communication rhythms that have fueled Kingdomcity’s explosive growth while keeping its mission unshakable.CHAPTERS:00:00 Revival Atmosphere in a Relational Culture02:14 Mark’s Global Identity Crisis and Divine Preparation04:13 The Burning Bush Moment: Leaving Law to Plant a Church05:58 Kingdom City’s Rapid Multinational Growth Explained08:03 Building a Strong Culture Across Diverse Nations11:16 Kingdom vs City: Non-Negotiables and Contextualization12:08 How Kingdom Values Translate Across Cultures15:24 Maintaining Culture: Practical Tools for Rapid Growth16:48 Relational Culture: The Secret to Sustained Revival20:49 Adapting Leadership Structures for Global Scale22:16 Principles vs Preferences: The Key to Unity24:45 Giving Trust First: Mark’s Risk-Taking Leadership Philosophy26:39 Leadership Pipeline: The Challenge of Rapid Expansion27:45 Developing Global Leaders for the Next Generation28:26 Closing: Building the Global Church in a Changing WorldRob's Socials: https://www.instagram.com/robdeanhoskins/https://www.facebook.com/robhoskins/https://x.com/robhoskinshttps://www.threads.com/@robdeanhoskinshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hoskins-3646454/

To learn more about Rob's new book, "Theology of the City," visit https://robhoskins.onehope.net/theology-of-the-city. In this episode, Rob sits down with Pastor Ivan Carluer, the visionary behind Martin Luther King (MLK) Church in Paris—one of the fastest-growing urban churches globally. In the heart of post-Christian France, MLK is defying expectations: baptizing over 500 new believers in a single year, hosting five weekend services, and launching a $30 million community center that’s reimagining how the Church can serve the city. Ivan shares how he models his ministry after the Apostle Paul—boldly contextualizing the Gospel without compromising its truth. From building friendships with imams and bishops to welcoming progressive politicians into church services, he’s forging unlikely partnerships with humility and conviction.CHAPTERS:00:00 Same Spirit, New Model02:26 From Brittany to Paris: Ivan’s Call to Ministry04:44 Planting a Church in a Communist Stronghold07:36 Contextual Innovation and Naming MLK10:51 Navigating Pluralism with Evangelical Conviction13:55 Serving the City Through Architecture and Presence17:26 The MLK Community Center Model19:10 500 Baptisms a Year and Organic Church Growth21:26 Engaging Cultural Questions Head-On23:56 Redefining Church Attendance and B&B Church27:46 Becoming a Revolutionary Church29:17 Unity Through the Next Generation31:35 Final Reflections on Reformation and Relevance-Rob's Socials: https://www.instagram.com/robdeanhoskins/https://www.facebook.com/robhoskins/https://x.com/robhoskinshttps://www.threads.com/@robdeanhoskinshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hoskins-3646454/

Rob sits down with his good friend and internationally-known pastor, Craig Groeschel. Best known for his dynamic leadership and influence through Life.Church and his global leadership podcast, Craig gives listeners a rare, behind-the-scenes look into his life as a father and grandfather.Together Craig and Rob talk about how Craig and his wife, Amy, raised six children—who are all now serving in ministry—Craig emphasizing that successful parenting isn't about having the perfect system, but being spirit-led, consistent, and deeply relational. Craig and Amy homeschooled their kids and tailored their parenting style to each child individually, focusing more on creating a life-giving culture than enforcing rigid rules.Craig also shares some of their parenting mistakes, like relying too much on formulas, plus powerful wins like keeping his marriage strong and cultivating a spiritual environment in their home. Craig and Rob also discuss the spiritual responsibilities of parents, the dangers of technology distraction, and the critical role of grace and truth in discipleship.This conversation will give practical insights into how Life.Church intentionally supports family health among its staff—offering resources, counseling, and mentorship to ensure that parenting is never sacrificed for professional success. Craig’s message to parents: you are still the most influential voice in your child’s life—use it well.RESOURCES FROM THIS EPISODE:Parent Platform - A new parent initiative is in development with OneHope and partner churches including Life.Church. Slated to be released in 2026, the platform aims to provide church leaders with strategy, training, and resources to help them partner with parents as they disciple their children. For relevant parent resources in the meantime, visit: https://resources.onehope.net/parent-resource-hub/p/1. Gen Alpha Research - https://onehope.net/global-outreach/research. Life.Church Parent Resources - https://www.life.church/parents. CHAPTERS:00:00 Technology, Distraction, and Intimacy01:46 Craig and Rob Talk Family and Grandkids02:29 How Craig and Amy Built a Parenting Culture04:21 Creating a Unique Parenting Playbook for Each Child05:29 Parenting Mistakes and Do-Overs07:55 Structure, Discipline, and Disruption in Parenting09:52 Spanking, Consistency, and Generational Shifts11:28 Amy’s Role in Homeschooling and Family Culture12:53 Navigating Identity Post-Parenting14:55 The Church’s Role in Supporting Parents16:53 Creating a Parenting-First Culture at Life.Church19:19 Research on Alpha Generation and Parental Influence21:32 The Call to Parents to Be Present22:27 Building a Culture of Open Conversation24:18 Parenting Resources and the Need for Wisdom-Rob's Socials: https://www.instagram.com/robdeanhoskins/https://www.facebook.com/robhoskins/https://x.com/robhoskinshttps://www.threads.com/@robdeanhoskinshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-hoskins-3646454/

Mart Green, Missouri-born heir to the Hobby Lobby legacy and founder of Mardel Christian & Education, sits down with Rob on today’s episode of The Missional Leader to unpack the principles behind his family’s extraordinary generosity. From monthly "marble-votes” and the 6 T’s of giving to launching illumiNations—an inter-ministry partnership focused on eradicating Bible poverty—the conversation centers on values-driven impact. Mart also reflects on his grandmother's sacrificial giving and the 1998 trip to Guatemala that ignited both his personal relationship with Jesus and a global effort towards Bible translation. This conversation delivers tangible insights for leaders eager to cultivate generosity in heart and action! CHAPTERS:00:00 Intro: Foundations of Generosity02:25 Family Voting & Marble Metaphor04:34 The R–S–T Filter Explained07:01 Six T’s of Generosity & G–H–I Values13:25 Launching illumiNations & Eradicating Bible Poverty16:59 The 2033 “All‑Access” Bible Vision18:00 Overcoming Board & CEO Resistance21:02 Swimming Downstream: Collective Philanthropy23:29 Grandmother’s Legacy & Sacrificial Gifts26:00 Closing Reflections & Rob’s Thanks

Welcome to the launch of The Missional Leader—a podcast for Kingdom-minded leaders looking for mission-forward insight, practical strategies, and Spirit-led solutions. Hosted by Rob Hoskins, President of OneHope, each conversation you’ll get to listen in on is designed to fuel your calling, strengthen your leadership, and empower you to advance the Gospel with clarity, courage, and conviction. On this first episode of season 1, Rob sits down with Bobby Gruenewald—founder of YouVersion— for a rich, wide-ranging conversation about the mindset of an innovator. Together Rob and Bobby discuss how risk is inseparable from innovation, framing it in three key categories: feasibility, market, and sustainability.Bobby explains how a mindset rooted in abundance, not scarcity, empowers leaders to risk failure without fear. He also highlights the spiritual and practical value of relationships over resources, stressing that “everything comes through people.” Finally, Rob and Bobby discuss how humility and stewardship keep innovation grounded in mission, not ego.We pray this conversation will give you insight into the discipline of innovation—emphasizing that relationships are the true currency of Kingdom leadership and any innovative endeavor. We’re honored to have you along for the journey of The Missional Leader! The Technology Adoption Lifecycle:  https://diffusion-research.org/diffusion-theory-extensions-and-adaptationsCHAPTERS:00:00 Identity & creative freedom00:33 Opening conversation and welcome03:02 Risks in innovation05:26 Risk framework: feasibility, market, business10:31 Innovator or early adopter?14:14 Learning from YouVersion’s first failure18:50 Pivoting to mobile for breakthrough19:40 Doubt, identity & resilience22:05 The tree vs. fruit metaphor25:20 Abundance mindset in innovation28:53 Culture, relationships & stewardship