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Director and Choreographer Rob Marshall once said, ”The thing about movie musicals is that there have been some brilliant ones, but when they’re bad, they’re really bad - big white elephants.” On this podcast, Grace and Scott discuss a range of Movie Musicals, from classics to DCOMs and everything in between to analyze what makes them work or why they’re Big White Elephants!
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37. Hello, Dolly! (1969)

37. Hello, Dolly! (1969)

2026-03-2601:03:34

Put on your Sunday clothes and ride the train from Yonkers down to the 14th street parade! It's time to discuss the film that arguably killed the big Hollywood Studio Musical, Hello, Dolly! (1969) featuring the one and only Barbra Streisand.   
Grace and Scott fly down to a fancy resort to be caught in flagrante delicto while discussing their first Fred and Ginger movie, The Gay Divorcee (1934) Plus we recap the 98th Academy Awards Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
The Oscars may have been last night, but Awards Season isn't done quite yet! Introducing: The Ivory Elephant Awards. Our very own award show to celebrate the year in Movie Musicals and Movies With Musical Moments. Grace and Scott select winners for such prestigious awards as "Best Song and Performance in a Non-Musical Movie," "The Troy and Gabriella Award For Most Romantic Love Song," and of course, the two biggest awards of the night: "Biggest White Elephant" and "Most Not Big White Elephant." Plus, so much more! Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!  
35. Sinners (2025)

35. Sinners (2025)

2026-03-1201:25:07

Grace and Scott close out the Big Gold Elephants series with the film nominated for more Academy Awards than any film in history, Ryan Coogler's Sinners (2025). They get into all the music, the vampires, and the blues! Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
Grace and Scott are joined by the host of Soundtrack Your Life Ryan Pak to become a trio of pop singers, fight some demons, and seal the honmoon for this episode of Big Gold Elephants on the 2025 sensation KPop Demon Hunters, which is nominated for Best Animated Film and Best Original Song at the 98th Academy Awards Follow Soundtrack Your Life on instagram @soundtrackcast and listen wherever you get your podcasts! Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
33. Dreamgirls (2006)

33. Dreamgirls (2006)

2026-02-2601:11:05

On episode 33, Grace and Scott continue the Big Gold Elephants journey of Oscar Winning movie musicals by tightening up their three part harmonies and telling you we are going! Going to talk about Dreamgirls (2006), that is, which won 2 Academy Awards for Best Sound Mixing and Best Supporting Actress for Jennifer Hudson. Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
Grace and Scott are joined by Emma J to jump into a sidewalk chalk painting, take a spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down, and fight for women's suffrage while talking about Disney's Mary Poppins (1964) which won 5 Oscars at the 37th Academy Awards Plus we talk about the new Louis Tomlinson Album 'How Did I Get Here' because it's our podcast and we can do what we want! Follow Emma on letterboxd @smalltalkem Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!  
31. Fame (1980)

31. Fame (1980)

2026-02-1201:15:19

Grab your leg warmers and get ready to dance on a car, Grace and Scott continue the Big Gold Elephants series by heading to New York's High School of Performing Arts to study drama, music, and dance with the teens of Fame (1980), which won the Academy Award for Best Score and Best Song. Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
30. West Side Story (1961)

30. West Side Story (1961)

2026-02-0501:14:39

Welcome to the first episode of our Big Gold Elephants series, celebrating movie musicals that have won Academy Awards! Grace and Scott kick things off by snapping their fingers, dance fighting under the highway, and sleeping with someone who just murdered their brothers while discussing Robert Wise and Jerome Robbins's West Side Story (1961). The film won ten Oscars, including Best Picture at the 34th Academy Awards. Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
For Episode 29, Grace and Scott are joined by Kev and McKenzie of Austin Danger Podcast to talk about their greatest fears and the songs and sketches in John Mulaney and the Sack Lunch Bunch (2019).  You can follow Austin Danger Podcast on instagram @austindangerpod and Kev and McKenzie on letterboxd @kev and @mckenziewilkes Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!   Please visit NeighborhoodHouseMN.org/community-crisis-response for more information on how to help vulnerable communities in Minnesota directly.
On episode 28, Grace and Scott travel to 80s Japan to witness the rise and fall of two singers who aren't brothers (but actually maybe they are?) in Makota Tezuka's cult classic The Legend Of The Stardust Brothers (1985) Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
27. Teen Spirit (2018)

27. Teen Spirit (2018)

2026-01-1557:15

On Episode 27, Grace and Scott travel to the Isle Of Wight, douse themselves in pink and blue lighting, and join a singing competition to discuss the Elle Fanning vehicle Teen Spirit (2018) Plus, we catch up on the Golden Globes and highlight the wins in the Best Musial categories! Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
On Episode 26, Grace and Scott are joined by Austin-based film critic Alejandra Martinez to practice abstinence, defy religious persecution, and shake with the ecstasy of devotion while discussing Mona Fastvold's The Testament Of Ann Lee (2025) You can follow Alejandra on letterboxd and social media @mtzxale Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
What Team? WILD CATS! What Team? WILD CATS! What Team? WILD CATS! WILD CATS, GET YOUR HEAD IN THE GAME We're celebrating the new year with the start of something new. Bopping to the top with our conversation on Kenny Ortega's cultural phenomenon of a Disney Channel Original Movie, High School Musical. Grace and Scott are joined by Katie to get their heads in the game and stick to the status quo. Or wait, no. We're breaking free! Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!  
24. White Christmas (1955)

24. White Christmas (1955)

2025-12-2501:05:00

Merry Christmas from your Big White Elephant friends! To celebrate, we went back to 1955 with some of our old army buddies to fall in love, put on a show, and reminisce about the good old days of Minstrel Shows. Wait...that's not right! Anyway, we get into all that and more while discussing Michael Curtiz's White Christmas (1955) Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
23. Spirited (2022)

23. Spirited (2022)

2025-12-1801:08:37

Who haunts the haunters? Can we ever really be redeemed for our sins? Does a movie musical work if the main characters are bad at singing? These questions and more are raised by Sean Anders's Spirited (2022) and on episode 23, Grace and Scott dig into all of it, including suggesting some new casting! Plus, we talk about the hit new film Ella McCay, in theaters now Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
22. 42nd Street

22. 42nd Street

2025-12-1157:44

Put your tap shoes on and make sure you've got a sugar daddy because for Episode 22 Grace and Scott and shuffling off to Buffalo to talk about 1933's 42nd Street, directed by Lloyd Bacon with musical numbers staged and directed by Busby Berkeley. Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
21. Moulin Rouge! (2001)

21. Moulin Rouge! (2001)

2025-12-0401:21:44

One woman dares to speak her mind and the pitchforks come out! After Grace's brave 1-star first time log of Moulin Rouge! on November 17th, her friends and community turned on her. Big White Elephants decided it was time get to the bottom of it. Is Baz Luhrmann's 2001 movie musical a brilliant post-modernist piece of maximalist romanticism with incredible production design and a love story for the ages or is it an insufferable over-edited slog of nonsense with cheap musical interpolations and singing voices of questionable quality? Maybe it's both!  Where do you stand? Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
20. Wicked: For Good (2025)

20. Wicked: For Good (2025)

2025-11-2701:31:52

For our 20th episode, Grace and Scott round out Emerald City Month with one last trip to Oz. This time they put on their sex cardigans, free the flying monkeys, and look into many reflective surfaces for Jon M. Chu's follow up to Wicked (2024), Wicked: For Good (2025). Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes! A teaser for next week's episode
Good news, she's dead! Emerald City Month continues with Grace and Scott being joined by Sammy to talk about Jon M. Chu's Wicked Part 1 (2024). Fascism against animals, Emerald Cities, and backlighting, oh my! We get into our histories with the stage musical and how we think this adaptation handles the material Tune in next week for our discussion of Wicked: For Good (2025) Connect with us on Instagram @bigwhiteelephantspod and send emails or voicemails to bigwhiteelephantspod@gmail.com so we can share them on future episodes!
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