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Haley Berkoe sits down with Joe Carlo, co-owner of Pink Owl Coffee, a café that began in San Rafael, California, and has since expanded to three locations across the Bay Area. Pink Owl is one of the earliest Square merchants to integrate bitcoin into its business model. For several years, Joe and his partner Saandra have been converting a percentage of sales into bitcoin as part of their long-term savings strategy, and they recently joined Square’s beta program to begin accepting bitcoin payments directly, ahead of the public launch on November 10th. Joe shares how he first discovered bitcoin, what inspired him to use it as a small-business owner, and how he’s helped educate both customers and staff on what it means to pay (and save) in bitcoin. https://pinkowlcoffee.com/

Kyle Olney joins Haley Berkoe to talk about defending bitcoin’s foundational freedoms. A longtime Silicon Valley product leader turned bitcoin advocate, Kyle helped launch Save Our Wallets, a coalition fighting for Section 109 of the Clarity Act, and the Satoshi Needs You campaign, a national call to action to protect open-source developers and the right to self-custody. Kyle shares his journey from seizing banks for the U.S. government during the 2008 financial crisis to championing bitcoin’s political and legislative future. He explains the legislative nuances of the Clarity Act, how the wrong version of this bill could endanger open-source developers, and how ordinary bitcoiners can take meaningful action. 00:00 Introducing Kyle Olney and saveourwallets.org 01:32 Kyle's journey to bitcoin advocacy 04:06 The importance of Save Our Wallets 05:46 Understanding the Clarity Act and BRCA 07:34 Getting the BRCA language written into U.S. law to protect open-source builder 8:58 Misconceptions in the bitcoin community 11:09 Why this affects everyone 14:36 The call to action 16:29 The Satoshi Needs You Campaign 19:10 Community collaboration and future outlook 22:19 How to get involved Save Our Wallets: https://x.com/saveourwalets, saveourwallets.org Kyle Olney: https://x.com/KyleOlney, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyleolney/ Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/ Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

In this episode of 21 in 21, Nick Slaney joins Haley Berkoe during Presidio Bitcoin Design Week. Nick is the founder of Money Dev Kit, a new startup building tools that make it easy for developers to add bitcoin and Lightning payments to their applications. Previously, he was at Block, where he helped build Bitkey and c=, whose LDK node became one of the Lightning Network’s largest and most active. He shares why he’s betting on bitcoin over stablecoins, how Lightning service providers (LSPs) improve Lightning usability, and what gives him hope for bitcoin’s future. FOLLOW: Nick Slaney: https://x.com/nick_slaney Money Dev Kit: https://x.com/money_dev_kit Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

During Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin, product designer and HRF grantee Erik Cativo joined the show to talk about designing the future of money. We get into his experiments with ecash and bitchat, the magic of bump-to-pay interactions, and how thoughtful UX can make bitcoin feel intuitive, private, and fun. Erik also shares lessons from living in a nearly cashless society, ideas for building “throw-cash” experiences inside apps like Cash App, and why anyone can help design better bitcoin products simply by giving feedback. FOLLOW: Erik Cativo: https://x.com/uxerik_, https://www.erik.day/ Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

Haley Berkoe is joined by Kyle Fletcher, Principal Design Director at Block, to explore the intersection of bitcoin, design, and culture. They discuss why artists and designers play a critical role in shaping bitcoin’s future, the sats vs. bitcoin denomination debate, and how thoughtful design can help bring bitcoin to the masses. Kyle also shares personal influences, dream projects, and why onboarding artists, local merchants, and creative communities is key to bitcoin adoption. CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS: 00:00 Intro & Kyle’s background at Block 01:01 State of Bitcoin brand creative 02:59 Designing future money: local and circular economies 05:55 The Intersection of art and bitcoin 08:19 The sats vs. bitcoin denomination debate 12:32 Design mentors, observation, and environment 15:39 Why Silicon Valley designers should care about Bitcoin 17:52 Dream projects: Bitcoin art galleries & philanthropy 22:11 Final thoughts: how creatives can get started with Bitcoin 23:13 Where to find Kyle online FOLLOW: Kyle Fletcher: https://x.com/kyleluvsew, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylefletcher/ Block/Cash App: https://x.com/blocks, https://x.com/CashApp Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/ Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin LINKS: Presidio Bitcoin Design Week Summary: https://open.substack.com/pub/bitcoindesign/p/presidio-bitcoin-design-week?r=53cq2n&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Kyle’s talk at Design Week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YArvqMYy6nI Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

In this episode of 21 in 21, Haley is joined by Christoph Ono, co-founder of the Bitcoin Design Foundation and longtime contributor to the Bitcoin Design Community. They talk about Bitcoin Design Week in San Francisco, the effort to redesign the Bitcoin Core wallet, and why design plays such a critical role in shaping the future of money. Christoph also shares how newcomers can get involved in the Bitcoin Design Community and why making bitcoin feel magical matters. Chapter Timestamps: 00:00 Intro & Christoph’s background 01:05 Bitcoin Design Week in San Francisco 02:51 Designing future money 04:59 Why Silicon Valley designers should care about bitcoin 06:40 How to join the Bitcoin Design Community 08:44 Redesigning Bitcoin Core’s original wallet 11:51 Designers and developers working together 13:48 Impactful projects & community contributions 17:51 Inspirations, books, and design influences 23:03 Final thoughts: making bitcoin magical 23:43 Where to follow Christoph FOLLOW: Christoph Ono: https://x.com/GBKS, https://www.linkedin.com/in/germanysbestkeptsecret/ Bitcoin Design Community: https://x.com/bitcoin_design Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/ Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin LINKS: Bitcoin Design 5 Year Report: https://five.bitcoin.design/ Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud: https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Comics-Invisible-Scott-McCloud/dp/006097625X Bitcoin Design Community: https://bitcoin.design/ Bitcoin Design Foundation: https://bitcoindesignfoundation.org/ Bitcoin Design Week: https://event.bitcoin.design/ Christoph speaking at Bitcoin Design Week: https://youtu.be/EbFCoVtJKEc?si=JEVxnLCTFJGX9NdL Christoph’s Substack: https://gbks.substack.com/ WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

In this episode, Haley Berkoe interviews Conor Okus, a Product Manager at Spiral. Conor shares his journey from playing football to becoming a grantee at Spiral and now managing the grant program. He addresses common misconceptions about bitcoin contributors, emphasizes the importance of user experience in promoting adoption, and discusses the emergence of user-friendly (easy) bitcoin addresses. Conor also shares his thoughts on the intersection of AI and bitcoin, the ongoing debate about using "₿ " instead of "sats" to display bitcoin denominations, and offers valuable advice for newcomers to the bitcoin space. EPISODE TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Conor’s unique path: From footballer to bitcoiner 01:33 Becoming a Spiral grantee and joining the team full-time 03:53 What Spiral looks for in grant applications 05:08 Misconceptions about bitcoin contributors 07:15 First impressions of Presidio Bitcoin and the SF builder scene 08:25 Current focus: UX, BOLT12, and easy bitcoin addresses 12:04 The next wave of bitcoin innovation: Lightning and AI 14:38 How AI might leverage bitcoin for payments and micro-transactions 18:27 The sats vs. bitcoin ₿ display debate (BIP 177 and UX shifts) 22:37 Advice for aspiring bitcoin contributors 23:42 How to reach Conor & connect with Spiral FOLLOW: Conor Okus: https://x.com/ConorOkus, https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorokus/ Spiral: https://x.com/spiralbtc, https://www.linkedin.com/company/spiralbtc Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/ Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin LINKS: Spiral Grant Guidelines: https://spiral.xyz/blog/square-crypto-grants-for-everybody/ Easy Bitcoin Address: https://easybitcoinaddress.me/ Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin: https://event.bitcoin.design/ Bitcoin Design Community: https://bitcoin.design/ Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

Haley Berkoe sits down with Mogashni “Mo” Naidoo — UX researcher, designer, and co-founder of the Bitcoin Design Foundation. Mo shares her path into bitcoin design, why developers and designers need each other, and how the foundation supports designers across the ecosystem. She also talks about her UX Research Toolkit, the role of AI in product design, and previews Bitcoin Design Week in San Francisco in September. CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 Introduction 01:35 The Bitcoin Design Foundation and Bitcoin Design Community, and how both support builders 03:23 Mo’s Journey into UX and bitcoin 05:26 Why Developers need designers 06:39 The Bitcoin Design Community’s projects and impact 07:51 Mo’s personal project to unify bitcoin UX research and how she uses AI to build tools 10:47 Bitcoin Design Week September 15–19 at Presidio Bitcoin 14:52 How better design can empower activists, the unbanked, and everyday users 16:50 Exploring AI-powered design tools, including the idea of a “Bitcoin Design Sidekick” 21:38 Ways to contribute time or resources to the Bitcoin Design Foundation 23:57 Closing thoughts FOLLOW: Mogashni “Mo” Naidoo: https://x.com/MouxDesign, https://www.linkedin.com/in/mogashninaidoo/ Bitcoin Design Community: https://x.com/bitcoin_design Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/ Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin LINKS: Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin: https://event.bitcoin.design/ Bitcoin Design Community: https://bitcoin.design/ Bitcoin Design Foundation: https://bitcoindesignfoundation.org/, https://www.linkedin.com/company/bitcoin-design-foundation/ Bitcoin Design 5 Year Report: https://five.bitcoin.design/ Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

Haley Berkoe talks with Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, about bitcoin’s growing role in U.S. policy. They cover building a bitcoin community in DC, how policymakers are treating bitcoin as a strategic asset, the risks of quantum computing and AI, and why this moment feels like one of “high agency and high leverage” for bitcoiners. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction to Matt Pines and his path into bitcoin 02:10 The bitcoin scene in Washington DC 03:47 Shifting policy conversations and bitcoin as a strategic asset 05:12 Advice for bitcoiners engaging policymakers 07:06 What a bitcoin standard world could look like 09:08 Quantum computing risks and government response 13:18 Book recommendation: Global Discord by Paul Tucker 15:09 The intersection of bitcoin and AI 18:02 Dream bitcoin projects still missing in the market 19:42 Spicy take: China vs. U.S. bitcoin holdings 20:30 Optimism for bitcoin’s future and ETF adoption 23:24 Final takeaway: the power of agency 25:27 How to follow Matt and the Bitcoin Policy Institute FOLLOW: Matthew Pines: https://x.com/matthew_pines Bitcoin Policy Institute: https://x.com/btcpolicyorg Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin LINKS: Insights from the Quantum Bitcoin Summit https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/p/insights-from-the-quantum-bitcoin Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

Haley Berkoe met with Tadge Dryja, a bitcoin developer, researcher, and co-creator of the Lightning Network. They discussed the importance of preparing for potential threats from quantum computing and Tadge’s proposed solution, called “Lifeboat.” Tadge also dives into how to attract the next generation of developers, the health of the bitcoin ecosystem, dream projects to improve usability and client diversity, and why education is key to bitcoin’s resilience. CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS 0:47 – Concerns about complacency despite btcoin’s high price; ongoing challenges with scalability, fees, and post-quantum readiness. 2:22 – Tadge explains his “Lifeboat” commit-reveal scheme for protecting coins if quantum computers become a threat. 5:09 – How quantum computers could break bitcoin’s elliptic curve signatures, why hashes remain safe, and the current likelihood of such attacks. 10:33 – Challenges of bringing new developers into bitcoin, overcoming political stigma, and keeping the community open to diverse participants. 16:21 – Usability improvements like BIP39 support in Bitcoin Core and having multiple full node implementations. 19:23 – Why education matters for both developers and non-developers to build a more resilient Bitcoin network. FOLLOW: Tadge Dryja: @tdryja, https://x.com/tdryja Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin LINKS: Insights from the Quantum Bitcoin Summit https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/p/insights-from-the-quantum-bitcoin Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

In this episode, Haley Berkoe chats with Jameson Lopp, longtime bitcoiner, cypherpunk, and Chief Security Officer at Casa, to explore the long-term threats and opportunities facing bitcoin. He discusses his latest bitcoin improvement proposal, how AI can be both a productivity booster and existential risk, and why bitcoin's future hinges on education, sovereignty, and conversation. CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS 00:51 Lopp’s top of minds: ossification, quantum threats, and protocol evolution. 01:44 An overview of his quantum Bitcoin Improvement Proposal. 06:23 How AI is helping with tooling and security, plus Lopp’s caution on the hype. 07:59 Writer’s block and Lopp’s creative process. 11:55 Lopp’s vision of a sovereign future and concerns about paper bitcoin trends. 15:16 Promoting bitcoin as money without pushing. 16:42 Lopp shares two controversial ideas: cut off quantum-vulnerable coins and use dynamic block sizes. 19:20 What gives him hope, the failures of fiat are bitcoin’s best marketing. 20:17 Don’t buy before you learn. Start with education, then stack. 21:47 Why discussion is the key to bitcoin’s long-term success. FOLLOW: Jameson Lopp: @lopp, https://x.com/lopp Casa: @CasaHODL, https://x.com/CasaHODL Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Spiral: @spiralbtc, https://x.com/spiralbtc Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin LINKS: Lopp.net Lopps’ BIP: https://github.com/jlopp/bips/blob/quantum_migration/bip-post-quantum-migration.mediawiki Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

This episode features Alex Pruden, the Chairman of Aleo and the CEO of Project Eleven, an applied R&D lab focused on the intersection of quantum computing and cryptography. In this conversation with Haley Berkoe, Alex discusses quantum computing, future-proofing bitcoin, user experience upgrades, and his journey from the Army Special Forces to becoming a cryptographer. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: 00:50 Discovering bitcoin in the Middle East 01:42 Project Eleven & why quantum matters 02:46 What it means to be "quantum-resistant" 04:50 AI and cryptography 07:02 Learning cryptography from scratch 08:51 Book recommendation: Life and Fate 09:37 What self-sovereignty should look like 11:11 Zero-knowledge on bitcoin 14:05 Bitcoin’s price does not equal success 15:18 Bitcoin UX still needs love and innovation 19:39 Army lessons that shape his work 21:02 Final thought: celebrate, but contribute FOLLOW: Alex Pruden: @apruden08, https://x.com/apruden08 Project Eleven: @qdayclock, https://x.com/qdayclock Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

In this episode, Haley Berkoe sits down with Alex Gladstein, Chief Strategy Officer at the Human Rights Foundation. They discuss how AI tools are empowering activists, the importance of local governance, and what a world on the bitcoin standard could look like. Alex shares insights from HRF’s grant program, the UX hurdles activists face using bitcoin, and why he remains hopeful about bitcoin’s future. TIMESTAMPS: 00:36 How Alex got into human rights 03:46 Use of AI by activists 06:13 The ideal role of government in a free society 08:04 Bitcoin as a human rights tool 10:15 A world on the bitcoin standard 14:18 Bitcoin UX: what’s improved, what’s still clunky, and the features activists want most. 16:53 Lessons from HRF’s grant program 19:36 Alex’s spicy takes on Bukele 22:02 Why Alex is hopeful about bitcoin’s future 23:21 Resources, books, and where to follow Alex online. FOLLOW: Alex Gladstein: @gladstein, https://x.com/gladstein HRF: @HRF, https://x.com/HRF Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WHAT THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

Haley Berkoe sat down with Ryan Loomba, a Bitcoin Engineer at Block. Ryan shares his journey from early startup life to working across Square, Cash App, and Block’s Bitcoin team. They get into the weeds on bitcoin custody, the power of open-source, how Lightning is rolling out in the real world, and why AI might be the next big unlock for developers. FOLLOW: Ryan Loomba: https://x.com/RLoombs Block: https://x.com/blocks, https://engineering.block.xyz/blog/, https://block.xyz/careers/jobs Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit presidiobitcoin.substack.com

In this episode, Haley Berkoe interviews Alex Zukauskas, the Presidio Bitcoin Lead. Alex shares his background, discusses past and upcoming events, and explains why Presidio Bitcoin is the best place to be. He will be joining the show quarterly to keep everyone updated on all the exciting developments at Presidio Bitcoin. Episode Highlights: * Time flies, it’s been 7 months since Alex took the job, and 4 months since the launch of Presidio Bitcoin. * Recurring monthly events open to the public: BitDevs, LitDevs, and ₿uilder. * Upcoming events: The Quantum Bitcoin Summit, a careers fair in the fall, and book clubs. * The focused approach to adding members. We currently have 22 people, including open-source contributors, startups, and builders. * Global recognition and having visitors from all over the world. * Perks of working at Presidio Bitcoin. * Alex’s secrets to taking care of plants Reach out to Alex at hello@presidiobitcoin.org if you’re interested in a membership, visiting the space, or getting involved! FOLLOW: Alex Zukauskas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azukauskas/ Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin/ WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit presidiobitcoin.substack.com

Haley Berkoe met with Clara Shikhelman, the Head of Research at Chaincode Labs. Clara has been researching complex mathematical problems for nearly a decade and is currently focusing on the Lightning Network and bitcoin in the age of post-quantum computing. Episode highlights include: * Her goals with the quantum computing report: provide an overview of the current status and future direction, reduce FUD, and clarify what actually matters. * A call for cryptographers to engage with bitcoin and read the whitepaper. * The need for bitcoin to have a more user-friendly experience and tools that are as simple to use as Venmo. * Excitement about new developers entering the space through the Chaincode BOSS program https://learning.chaincode.com/ * Advice to researchers: follow interesting questions rather than adhering to traditional academic paths. FOLLOW: Clara Shikhelman: @ClaraShik, https://x.com/ClaraShik Chaincode Labs: @ChaincodeLabs, https://x.com/ChaincodeLabs Haley Berkoe: @HBerkoe, https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: @PresidioBitcoin, https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin Watch the podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit presidiobitcoin.substack.com

Haley Berkoe met with Ben Carman, who recently joined the Spiral team to work on the Lightning Development Kit and LDK-related projects. Previously he was at Taproot Wizards and Mutiny, a non-custodial Lightning wallet. Episode highlights include: - Ben’s new focus areas at Spiral. - His bitcoin journey, which started with a comedy podcast and Andreas Antonopoulos's videos. - Ben’s concerns about the bitcoin community's lack of emphasis on real-world payments. - He stresses the need for next-generation Lightning and self-custodial wallets, warning that without proper infrastructure, bitcoin risks being seen merely as a banking asset. - Shoutouts to Rockstar Dev and folks in the Austin bitcoin community, such as Buck Pearly, Jack Lesser, and Rod from Bitcoin Park. - Advice for newcomers: do everything you can to learn, contribute, and enhance visibility in the community. FOLLOW: Ben Carman: @benthecarman, https://x.com/benthecarman Spiral: @spiralbtc, https://x.com/spiralbtc Haley Berkoe: @HBerkoe, https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: @PresidioBitcoin, https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit presidiobitcoin.substack.com

In this episode, Haley Berkoe sat down with Stephen DeLorme, a Product Designer at Voltage and co-founder of ATL BitLab, a bitcoin-focused hackerspace in Atlanta. Episode Highlights: * Battle of the Mine-hackers starts this Saturday, June 7th, at ATL BitLab! Remote participation is welcome: https://minehackers.atlbitlab.com/ * Centralization risks with mining pools, hardware manufacturing, and block template construction * Current focus areas at Voltage along with fun side projects like Bolt 12 Zaps * Hot takes on Cashu * Warming up to renaming sats to bitcoin. We need user research to gauge reactions * Making bitcoin fun with games and approaches like Bitty (go find all 9 on bitcoin.org) * Shoutouts to Steve Lee (@moneyball) and Adam Jonas (@adamcjonas) * His positive experiences with vibe coding and advice that everyone should start doing it FOLLOW: Stephen DeLorme: @StephenDeLorme https://x.com/StephenDeLorme ATLBitLab: @atlbitlab, https://x.com/atlbitlab Haley Berkoe: @HBerkoe, https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: @PresidioBitcoin, https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit presidiobitcoin.substack.com

Haley Berkoe met with Ella Hough, who has dedicated significant time to educating younger generations about bitcoin. She just completed her bitcoin-focused study at Cornell University, co-founded the Bitcoin Students Network, and led the Cornell Bitcoin Club, which is now transitioning to new leadership. Additionally, she is conducting a global study examining bitcoin adoption and financial freedom. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: * How she went about pursuing bitcoin as an independent major, focusing on its connections to linguistics and game theory, and viewing bitcoin as a language—a new protocol for truth and the dissemination of information. * Her research study, which spans 25 countries, includes 25,000 surveys and about 250 interviews to explore how bitcoin serves as a tool for financial freedom. * Her bitcoin "aha" moment 4 years ago after attending the Oslo Freedom Forum with the Human Rights Foundation. * How hackathons can help foster connections and provide students a chance to build proof of work, making them more employable. * Shoutouts to Sarah Kreps (@sekreps), Troy Cross (@thetrocro), Parker Lewis (@parkeralewis), Erik Hersman (@whiteafrican), Dhruv Bansal (@dhruvbansal), and her mom Lisa Hough (@lisa_hough_). FOLLOW: Ella Hough: @21MMforthe21st, https://x.com/21MMforthe21st Bitcoin Students Network: @BTCStudents, https://x.com/BTCStudents Haley Berkoe: @HBerkoe, https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: @PresidioBitcoin, https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin WATCH THE SHOW: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit presidiobitcoin.substack.com

Haley Berkoe interviewed Laolu Osuntokun, also known as Roasbeef. He’s a longtime bitcoiner, the CTO and co-founder of Lightning Labs, and lead developer for LND, one of the main Lightning implementations. Highlights of the conversation include his: - Winning project at the PB hackathon - Areas of focus at Lightning Labs, including improving LND and Taproot Assets - Pragmatic view on stablecoins - Ideas on how best to display bitcoin fractions and decimals - Current favorite gadget: a ring watch - Reflections on bitcoin's adoption and the need for better privacy - The story behind his nickname Follow: Laolu Osuntokun: @roasbeef, https://x.com/roasbeef Lightning Labs: @lightning, https://x.com/lightning Haley Berkoe: @HBerkoe, https://x.com/HBerkoe Presidio Bitcoin: @PresidioBitcoin, https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit presidiobitcoin.substack.com