Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

This week, Thomas sits down with law professor and Director of the Othering and Belonging Institute, john a. powell, for a deep examination of humans’ tendency to become divided, and how the narratives we construct around fearing other groups are actually a symptom of our fundamental drive for connection. They explore how our capacity for connection and community, driven by culture and storytelling, can produce divisiveness, and how we can use these same capacities to increase our empathy for suffering, deepen our embodiment, and overcome the fear, anxiety, and disconnect that result from collective trauma.This is a deep dive into the social and cultural drivers of disconnection, and an inspiring look at how we can tap into our spiritual and ancestral resources to bridge the divides that keep us stuck repeating the harmful patterns of the past.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/dFtytUEwFsgVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ john a. powell is Director of the Othering and Belonging Institute and Professor of Law, African American, and Ethnic Studies at UC Berkeley. He has led institutes focused on race and poverty at Ohio State and the University of Minnesota, and formerly served as National Legal Director of the ACLU. A co-founder of the Poverty & Race Research Action Council, he is known for developing frameworks of “targeted universalism” and “othering and belonging” to effect equity-based interventions. Connect with john here: 👉 https://belonging.berkeley.eduThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas is joined once again by journalist and co-host of the “What is Collective Healing?” podcast, Matthew Green, for a conversation exploring the idea of “global acupuncture.” So what is global acupuncture?It’s an approach to collective global healing that leverages our power as connected, social beings to skillfully address the roots of collective trauma at the most critical pressure points in our cultures and societies.Thomas and Matthew discuss how humanity can transition from "adolescence" into mature citizenship by taking ownership of our shared history and integrating the "frozen" past stored within our collective nervous system. They share their hopes that, using these tools, we can turn a world of crisis into a place of global flourishing.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/_Dq3sMVNPk4Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative.Connect with Matthew here:👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, we revisit an early episode where Thomas explores the concept of Transparent Communication, a practice that creates an open and grounded relational space where constructive and creative communication can occur. He explains that this form of communication combines the interconnected data streams of cognitive, emotional, and physical information that are always present in any conversation.When we become attuned to these transmissions from others' nervous systems, and are consciously creating coherent transmissions from our own, we can establish a deep connection that's rich in intimacy and free from reactivity.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/HojYkPpwBkkVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETIf you enjoy this episode and want to dive deeper into this topic...✨ On January 31, join Thomas’ authorized instructors Eva Giedt and Rae Riedel for a special 2-day online workshop on Transparent Communication. You’ll learn practices to support fresh, emergent conversations where new ways of being together and perception arise, and guidance on how to apply these principles in your everyday life. Whether you’re new to Thomas’ work or are undergoing advanced studies with him, we hope you’ll join us. Learn more and join the workshop here:👉 https://www.transparent-communication.com/workshop ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉

This week, Thomas is joined once again by his dear friends, longtime students, and meditation instructors Susanne Ahlendorf and Martin Bruders, for a conversation that unpacks both elemental and complex elements of the practice of meditation.They break down the most essential spiritual components of meditation and how we can apply them to our own practice, at any experience level. Thomas shares insight on how to cultivate the “beginner’s mind” and harness our attention by releasing unhelpful expectations of what a “good” practice should be.They also discuss the crucial role of the body in meditation, and how we can learn to embrace life’s deepest and most difficult questions as our path to revelation.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/qNKx_V-IhfEVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com✨ Susanne Ahlendorf is a non-medical practitioner for psychotherapy, a group leader for meditation and Inner Science practice, who accompanies people on their personal and spiritual development path. For her, meditation is a way of unfolding love in life.Connect with Susanne here:https://www.susanneahlendorf.de✨ Martin Bruders is a qualified social worker, mediator, and coach. He worked for over 28 years as a comedian and presenter at over 2000 corporate events in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. His inner exploration journey is as much about his meditation practice as it is about his daily life. He loves to permeate life deeper and deeper, always in search of intimacy with the divine; sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing.Connect with Martin here:👉 https://www.martinbruders.deExplore more teachings and meditations from Martin and Susanne via their co-founded organization, Make Space for Grace, here:https://www.makespaceforgrace.deAnd subscribe to their YouTube channel here:https://www.youtube.com/@makespaceforgrace-deSign up for the free monthly Living Meditation Stream with Martin and Susanne, an online opportunity to learn meditation skills and connect with our community:https://thomashuebl.com/meditation Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and

This week, Thomas sits down with acclaimed poet and author Ross Gay for a conversation on the intrinsic link between joy and sorrow, and the importance of finding delight in a world where doing so feels increasingly difficult.Ross’ work is focused on finding joy through human connection, from kinship and ancestry to the profound and powerful connection we feel when we help each other carry our sorrows. In this way, sorrow serves as an unexpected source of delight, a fundamental element of life that illuminates the precarity of joy, and thus its potency.Ross was also kind enough to share readings of some of his delightful poetry.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/qI0gXJRzqw8Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Ross Gay is the author of four books of poetry: Against Which; Bringing the Shovel Down; Be Holding, winner of the PEN American Literary Jean Stein Award; and Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude, winner of the 2015 National Book Critics Circle Award and the 2016 Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award. He has released three collections of essays—The Book of Delights was released in 2019 and was a New York Times bestseller; Inciting Joy was released in 2022, and his newest collection, The Book of (More) Delights was released in September of 2023.Connect with Ross here:👉 https://www.rossgay.netThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas sits down with Kyle Dietrich, a trauma-informed leadership coach and the founder of Grounded Idealist, for a hopeful conversation about how personal and global crises can spark radical transformation, and how we can build a supportive healing architecture for service workers, healers, parents, and anyone committed to bettering our world.They explore the crucial link between inner work and social change, the need for trauma-informed support for people who’ve dedicated their lives to helping others, and what resources are essential for all of us to achieve conscious relational systems and sustainable healing.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/LMw7Iw8lTRQVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Kyle Dietrich is a social entrepreneur, international development leader, and trauma-informed leadership coach with 25+ years implementing peacebuilding, humanitarian assistance, and learning & development programs. He recently led a team in USAID's Bureau for Humanitarian Assistance and has worked with the Peace Corps, Equal Access, Mercy Corps, and UN Peacekeeping. He’s the founder and executive director of Grounded Idealist, a grassroots organization on a mission to catalyze the future of service and social change work.Connect with Kyle here:👉 https://www.groundedidealist.coThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas is joined once again by the founder of Internal Family Systems, Dr. Richard Schwartz, for a deep exploration of how we can integrate collective trauma work into our daily lives, relationships, and communities.Combining wisdom from psychology and spiritual traditions, they discuss fresh insights on creating a holistic healing framework for modern times that expands our traditional understanding of therapy and healing by addressing deeply ingrained ancestral and collective wounds.They also explore the power of accessing the core Self to help us release individual and inherited burdens, and how this process of unburdening can accelerate our collective evolution and influence the greater health of humanity.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/HmbGYKL_w9wVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that de-pathologizes the multipart personality. He is the founder of the IFS Institute and is on the faculty of Harvard Medical School. He is the author of several books, including No Bad Parts and You Are the One You’ve Been Waiting For.Connect with Dr. Schwartz here:👉 https://ifs-institute.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas sits down with journalist and co-host of the “What is Collective Healing?” podcast, Matthew Green, for a special episode to answer questions from our community of listeners.They discuss how we can recognize when we’re carrying unresolved trauma from the past, how we can support our children’s healing while honoring ancestral trauma, and what questions we need to ask ourselves as we embark on our own healing journeys.They also explore why we should approach our trauma responses with compassion instead of judgment, how to become aware of patterns in our behavior and develop new ones, and the importance of collective healing within supportive ecosystems as we work to overcome isolation and repair our most important relationships.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/KVn4fbk3qMUVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative.Connect with Matthew here:👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

How can joy and curiosity help us navigate the most difficult times in our lives?This week, Thomas is joined once again by Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald, a trauma researcher, life coach, and author, to explore how curiosity and imagination are some of our most important and most trainable tools when we’re facing relational conflicts, traumatic experiences, grief and loss, and anxiety inducing news cycles. It might seem counterintuitive, but these resources give us much needed perspective, help us foster deeper, more genuine connections, and bring awareness to inner patterns that aren’t serving us.Thomas and Dr. McDonald also discuss the deeply relational nature of trauma, the need for collective awareness and witnessing to bring about healing, breaking cycles, and the complex nature of evil.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/NmqBYSLEPVEVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Join Thomas, Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz, and Sounds True founder Tami Simon on December 2 for a free LIVE event to celebrate their book's publication - From Burden to Belonging: Healing Trauma Across Generations.We'll explore how we can release our burdens, become more resilient, and help create a more flourishing world.Sign up for free here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com/eventIt's not too late to join Thomas' fall course: ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨It's a 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution.You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance.And as a member of the Point of Relation community, you'll receive a special $200 discount when you enroll. Learn more and join the course here:👉 https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com/podcast✨ Pre-order Thomas and Dr. Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com✨ MaryCatherine McDonald, PhD, is a research professor and life coach who specializes in the psychology of trauma, stress, and resilience. She has been researching, lecturing, and publishing on the neuroscience, psychology, and lived experience of trauma and stress for over a decade. She is passionate about destigmatizing trauma, stress, and mental health issues and reframing our understanding of trauma.Connect with Dr. McDonald here:👉 https://alchemycoaching.lifeThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and...

Feeling disconnected or stuck? In this short teaching from Thomas, you’ll learn how to tap into an embodied awareness of your inner light and channel the higher consciousness of your soul to unlock creativity, innovation, and direction for your future. This deep session offers guidance on refining your inner world to listen for the subtle stream of future insights, bringing needed updates and making you more open to previously unseen potential paths.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/ukgtiiB0XhsVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Join Thomas, Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz, and Sounds True founder Tami Simon on December 2 for a free LIVE event to celebrate their book's publication - From Burden to Belonging: Healing Trauma Across GenerationsWe'll explore how we can release our burdens, become more resilient, and help create a more flourishing world.Sign up for free here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com/eventIt's not too late to join Thomas' fall course: ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨It's a 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution.You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance.And as a member of the Point of Relation community, you'll receive a special $200 discount when you enroll. Learn more and join the course here:👉 https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com/podcast✨ Pre-order Thomas and Dr. Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are...

This week, Thomas sits down with Dr. Richard Schwartz, the founder of Internal Family Systems, for an in-depth discussion on the power of healing in groups, intergenerational and ancestral trauma healing, and the relationship between therapy and spirituality—all topics that are featured in their forthcoming book; Releasing Our Burdens: A Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral, and Collective Trauma.Thomas and Dr. Schwartz dive deep into the phenomena of ancestral and collective "legacy burdens", which are traumas from our shared past that unconsciously drive our current behavior and societal conflicts. They share therapeutic and spiritual strategies for addressing these inherited wounds, and discuss the urgent need for what Thomas calls a “collective healing architecture” to mend social fragmentation and revitalize our democratic systems.They also share insights on the importance of our interconnection with the natural world and the need for safe spaces to access “Self Energy,” where the profound impacts of individual parts work can amplify collective healing.✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/NnAcV8Y_fqgVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Pre-order Thomas and Dr. Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com...and join Thomas, Dr. Schwartz, and Sounds True founder Tami Simon on December 2 for a free LIVE event to celebrate their book's publication - From Burden to Belonging: Healing Trauma Across GenerationsWe'll explore how we can release our burdens, become more resilient, and help create a more flourishing world.Sign up for free here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com/eventIt's not too late to join Thomas' fall course: ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨It's a 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution.You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance.And as a member of the Point of Relation community, you'll receive a special $200 discount when you enroll. Learn more and join the course here:👉 https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com/podcast✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that de-pathologizes the multipart personality. He is the founder of the IFS Institute and is on the faculty of Harvard Medical School. He is the author of several books, including No Bad Parts and You Are the One You’ve Been Waiting For.Connect with Dr. Schwartz here:👉 https://ifs-institute.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core...

This week, Thomas sits down with writer, trained Buddhist monk, and meditation teacher, Jack Kornfield, for a conversation about the twists and turns on the spiritual path and the quest for a defined identity. Drawing on hard-won expertise, they dissect spiritual bypassing, embrace the necessity of disillusionment, and share rituals and practices to help you reclaim the sacred.Both teachers have extensive experience with trauma, pioneering our understanding of how trauma healing and spiritual practice intersect. Jack argues that in fact, we cannot seek enlightenment without confronting our personal wounds, understanding the difference between trauma and suffering, and acknowledging our interconnection.He and Thomas explore the need for communal spiritual practices, the wisdom inherent in ancient traditions, and the importance of remembering that our essential nature is love itself.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/4Fjz7WaTyX4Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETJoin Thomas this fall for ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨A 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution.You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance.And as a member of the Point of Relation community, you'll receive a special $200 discount when you enroll. Learn more and join the course here:👉 https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com/podcast✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Jack Kornfield is trained as a Buddhist monk, has taught meditation internationally since 1974, and is one of the key teachers to introduce Buddhist mindfulness practice to the West. After graduating from Dartmouth College in Asian Studies in 1967, he joined the Peace Corps and worked on tropical medicine teams in the Mekong River valley. Jack co-founded the Insight Meditation Society with Sharon Salzberg and Joseph Goldstein and the Spirit Rock Center in Woodacre, California. Jack has taught in centers and universities worldwide, led International Buddhist Teacher meetings, and worked with many of the great teachers of our time. He holds a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and is a father, husband, and activist. His books have been translated into 20 languages and sold more than a million copies.Connect with Jack here:👉 https://jackkornfield.com✨ Pre-Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, written in collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz: “Releasing Our Burdens,” here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our...

Trauma may be passed down through generations, but so are healing, benevolence, and spiritual guidance.This week, Thomas sits down with Iya Affo, an international speaker and the founder of Heal Historical Trauma, to discuss ancestral trauma and wisdom, Indigenous healing traditions, and collective resilience.Iya shares her personal journey of healing and connecting with her cultural identity, sharing how community practices and communal rituals are essential for individual and collective healing.She and Thomas explore how historical and ancestral trauma infiltrate modern life, and share hopeful wisdom on our ability to heal those wounds and transmit healing and regulation into the future. They discuss the tension and harmony between Western practices and Indigenous medicine, the difference between becoming an “elder” and simply growing older, and how genuine wellness and spiritual growth require acknowledging our fundamental interconnectedness.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/V1C6t3p29_AVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ETJoin Thomas and Iya Affo this fall for ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨A 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution.You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance.And as a member of the Point of Relation community, you'll receive a special $200 discount when you enroll. Learn more and join the course here:👉 https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com/podcast✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Iya Affo is an international lecturer and historical trauma specialist. She serves as a member of Arizona State University’s Disparities in the Justice System Advisory Board and authored the trauma-informed curriculum for educators in Arizona and Native American schools. She’s an adjunct faculty member at the Trauma Institute International and founder of Heal Historical Trauma Culture & Wellness Academy.Connect with Iya here:👉 http://healhistoricaltrauma.com✨ Pre-Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, written in collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz: “Releasing Our Burdens,” here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard...

Thomas shares a short teaching on how we can work together to navigate global crises, identify areas of unaddressed collective trauma, and transform outdated social structures with more emergent, creative, compassionate movements.In order for humanity to move into the next stage of development, we must address the frozen wounds of our past in order to stop repeating the same mistakes. Thomas explores ways to overcome our current state of fragmentation to prevent destructive crises before they occur and shift from rigidity to flow, from polarization to relationality.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/w91Xj1ShBIoVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Join Thomas Hübl this fall for ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨A 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution.You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance.Learn more and enroll here:👉 https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com✨ Pre-Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, written in collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz: “Releasing Our Burdens,” here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

This week, Thomas shares a teaching on trauma healing, ego integration, and embodied trust. Through the lens of traditional spiritual practices and the Tao Te Ching, he explores how trauma disconnects us from inner coherence, and why it’s important to understand and accept the intelligence of our defense patterns instead of simply trying to get rid of them.He also shares a unique perspective on trust, relationality, and worthiness, and challenges the idea of completely “dissolving the ego” and achieving an ideal self, offering a more holistic approach that highlights the necessary function of the ego and the need for all of our parts to be acknowledged and integrated.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/w7lY4t0n2E4Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Join Thomas Hübl this fall for ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨A 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution.You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance.Learn more and enroll here:👉https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com/podcast✨ Pre-Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, written in collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz: “Releasing Our Burdens,” here:👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblTake our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉

Can connecting with our ancestors help us see the sacredness in moments of deep crisis and grief?This week, Thomas sits down with Serene Thin Elk, a Lakota/ Dakota mental health and addiction therapist and speaker, for a vulnerable and moving conversation on ancestral healing, intergenerational trauma, grief, and collective wisdom.Serene shares her journey, driven by a need to understand her own and her community's suffering, including the intergenerational effects of historical trauma on Indigenous peoples. Through grief and loss, she discovered the importance of an integrative, holistic approach to healing, combining Western therapeutic techniques with traditional Indigenous ceremonies and spiritual practices to reconnect with ancestral wisdom and manage dysregulated nervous systems.She and Thomas discuss the importance of processing personal grief before addressing collective trauma, and explore frameworks for honoring loss and maintaining relationships even after death.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/LCINzH_F3CQVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Serene Thin Elk is a Lakota/Dakota clinical addiction and mental health therapist, mother of four children, and member of the Ihanktonwan and Sicangu Oyate in South Dakota. She is the Community Programs Director with South Dakota Urban Indian Health and seeks to integrate culture and spirituality into community healing models. She is passionate about intergenerational healing and educating others on how historical traumas translate to the present-day experiences of Native people.Connect with Serene here:👉 https://boardingschoolhealing.orgThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World,” here:👉

Will human wisdom ever be able to match the progress of technology?This week, Thomas is joined by Soren Gordhamer, the founder of Wisdom 2.0, for a deep dive into spiritual consciousness, technology, and how we can hold on to what’s most essential in life as we face the complex challenges of the digital age.As humans experience unprecedented levels of global connection, we’re also facing a crisis of loneliness, fragmentation, and polarization. Soren suspects that our “inner technologies of the heart” (wisdom, compassion, and self-awareness) aren’t keeping pace with algorithms, devices, and AI. He and Thomas discuss how regulating our nervous systems and tending to our spiritual practices can help offset the negative effects of technological overload.But individual evolution isn’t enough. This conversation explores the critical need for tech creators to infuse their work with ethical values and a collective reigning in of greed and unfettered capitalism to prevent a dysregulated society from misusing super-intelligent technologies.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/o0ZeVmcifT8Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Join Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change for 7 days of embodied practices, guided reflection, and powerful interviews at the Collective Trauma Summit 2025.This free, online event will help you deepen your understanding of trauma, learn practices for deeper presence, regulation, and compassion, and connect with a supportive global community.The Summit begins on October 12.Register for free here 👉 https://collectivetraumasummit.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Soren Gordhamer is founder and host of Wisdom 2.0, a partner at Wisdom Ventures, and author of the new book THE ESSENTIAL: Discovering What Really Matters in an Age of Distraction. For nearly two decades, Soren has been a pioneering force in bridging modern technology with ancient wisdom, demonstrating how we can live mindfully and compassionately in today’s fast-paced world.Connect with Soren here:👉 https://www.sorengordhamer.netThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: a...

Are you truly existing in the world, or are you trying to escape it?This week, Thomas shares an exploration into personal and societal evolution. It all begins with creating an inner spaciousness from which we can engage with the world with embodied presence, even when it’s difficult and uncomfortable.This teaching invites you to see challenges as gateways for transformation where innovation can emerge. Thomas shares how this principle applies on a small scale in our personal lives and on a larger scale as our societies undergo a detox process to digest the wounds of the past.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/Np8-J9P9hlEVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Join Thomas and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change for 7 days of embodied practices, guided reflection, and powerful interviews at the Collective Trauma Summit 2025.This free, online event will help you deepen your understanding of trauma, learn practices for deeper presence, regulation, and compassion, and connect with a supportive global community.The Summit begins on October 12.Register for free here 👉 https://collectivetraumasummit.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl✨ Order Thomas Hübl’s newest book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World,” here:👉 https://www.attunedbook.com/  Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future:👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

“Our history is not a history of divide. Our history is a history of coming together in greater and greater numbers.” - john a. powellIn this special bonus episode, Thomas sits down with john a. powell, law professor and Director of the Othering and Belonging Institute, to investigate the root causes and social function of “othering.”Humans are wired for connection, and according to john, othering is actually an unfortunate byproduct of our desire to belong and survive within a specific group.He and Thomas explore how storytelling has shaped the trajectory of human evolution, and how we can embrace our inherent interconnectedness to write more inclusive and peaceful stories for our shared future.If you’d like to hear the full conversation between john and Thomas, it’s one of over 30 talks included in the upcoming Collective Trauma Summit 2025. Click on the link below to register for this free online event.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/-uODI5ZgU1wVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Join Thomas, john a. powell, and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change for 7 days of embodied practices, guided reflection, and powerful interviews at the Collective Trauma Summit 2025.This free, online event will help you deepen your understanding of trauma, learn practices for deeper presence, regulation, and compassion, and connect with a supportive global community.The Summit begins on October 12.Register for free here 👉 https://collectivetraumasummit.com Subscribe to Thomas Hübl's channel for wisdom on healing, awakening, and transforming yourself and the world: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8aSR_qI6MCIJkGJfPn1RvQ?sub_confirmation=1For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/✨ john a. powell is Director of the Othering and Belonging Institute and Professor of Law, African American, and Ethnic Studies at UC Berkeley. He has led institutes focused on race and poverty at Ohio State and the University of Minnesota, and formerly served as National Legal Director of the ACLU. A co-founder of the Poverty & Race Research Action Council, he is known for developing frameworks of “targeted universalism” and “othering and belonging” to effect equity-based interventions.Connect with john here:👉 https://belonging.berkeley.eduThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website:

Can creative expression help us return to ourselves after we’ve experienced spiritual trauma?This week, Thomas sits down with Pádraig Ó Tuama, a distinguished Irish Poet, theologian, and host of the podcast Poetry Unbound, for a profound exploration of spiritual trauma. Pádraig shares about the specific heartbreak of being betrayed by a spiritual community, drawing from his own intense experiences as a young gay man whose sexuality was demonized by his church.Pádraig and Thomas discuss the intertwining of religious identity with politics and colonial history, particularly in Ireland, and share practical, philosophical, spiritual, and artistic approaches to healing from this type of trauma. At the heart of this conversation is the regenerative power of creativity and how art, poetry, and other forms of self-expression are essential to reestablishing a healthy relationship to your identity and your personal faith after trauma.Pádraig also reads his poem “The Exorcism” from his “Seven Deadly Sonnets” collection.✨ Click here to watch the video version of this episode on YouTube:👉 https://youtu.be/UbHVywpETVcVideo episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET✨ Join Thomas, Pádraig, and over 40 expert leaders in trauma-healing, embodiment, somatics, and social change for 7 days of embodied practices, guided reflection, and powerful interviews at the Collective Trauma Summit 2025.This free, online event will help you deepen your understanding of trauma, learn practices for deeper presence, regulation, and compassion, and connect with a supportive global community.The Summit begins on October 12.Register for free here 👉 https://collectivetraumasummit.com✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Pádraig Ó Tuama is a poet with interests in conflict, language, and religion. He presents Poetry Unbound from On Being Studios and has published two anthologies. In early 2025, Copper Canyon Press published Kitchen Hymns, his fourth poetry collection. A freelance artist, one of Ó Tuama’s projects is poet in residence with the Cooperation and Conflict Resolution Center at Columbia University. He splits his time between Belfast and New York City.Connect with Pádraig here:👉 https://www.padraigotuama.comThomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.✨ Connect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: