The Juniper and Elle Show

Juniper is back from Japan, and we catch up on four Chinese dramas—with some decidedly mixed feelings!We revisit the final chapters of Against the Current 兰香如故, which left us unexpectedly unfulfilled. Then it's on to Where the Mask Ends 嫁金钗, where nonstop scheming, questionable character motivations, and increasingly outrageous plot twists overwhelm everything else. Lament of Autumn 玉簟秋 proves to be an old-school Republican-era melodrama that, at least in its early episodes, brings back memories of Meteor Garden, complete with guns, torture, and a dangerously charismatic male lead. And finally, the two-hour vertical romance Today, a Cloud Loves Me 今天有朵云爱我 steals the show with its warmth, chemistry, and emotionally satisfying story.(00:32) Introduction(01:00) Against the Current Wrap-up (31-47): An Oddly Hollow End for a Beautiful Show(12:39) Where the Mask Ends (1-21): It’s About Scheming, And More Scheming(23:48) Lament of Autumn (1-12): Meteor Garden with Guns(31:33) Today, A Cloud Loves Me: The Vertical That Stole the ShowDisclaimer: Our podcast chats are intended to be casual banter in the name of good fun. There may be jokey remarks and tangents. Don’t take anything said too seriously, and no offense is ever intended!You can catch us on the below platforms:Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@JuniperandElleSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2AduAS26DSekKPO0zA7TwL?si=5e2615385c294083Music by Foximusic - “Not This Time” from www.foximusic.com#juniperandelle #TVAndFilmPodcast #DramaDiscussion #AsianDramaLover #ChineseDrama #AgainstTheCurrent #兰香如故 #WheretheMaskEnds #嫁金钗 #LamentofAutumn #玉簟秋 #TodayACloudLovesMe #今天有朵云爱我

Juniper’s about to visit Japan, so we’re taking the opportunity to check out two Japanese movie romances - My Happy Marriage and 10DANCE. My Happy Marriage’s supernatural Cinderella story surprised us with how well its quiet romance worked. 10DANCE, centered on two champion ballroom dancers, delivers a very different kind of BL romance — one that may especially resonate with anyone who’s experienced the intimacy of ballroom dancing.(00:32) Introduction(02:02) My Happy Marriage: The Romance of Being Seen(19:27) 10DANCE: The Intimacy of Dance(35:29) If We Had 20 More Minutes + Wrap UpDisclaimer: Our podcast chats are intended to be casual banter in the name of good fun. There may be jokey remarks and tangents. Don’t take anything said too seriously, and no offense is ever intended!You can catch us on the below platforms:Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@JuniperandElleSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2AduAS26DSekKPO0zA7TwL?si=5e2615385c294083Music by Foximusic - “Not This Time” from www.foximusic.com#juniperandelle #TVAndFilmPodcast #JapaneseMovies #MyHappyMarriage #AsLongAsWeBothShallLive #わたしの幸せな結婚 #10DANCE

Somehow, the big family melodrama we thought might be boring has become one of our most addictive watches of the year. Through episode 30, we talk about what makes Against the Current 兰香如故 work so well, from its slow-burn storytelling and quietly capable heroine to its complicated relationships and unexpectedly effective romance. Plus, we hand out a few very unofficial awards of our own.(00:32) Introduction(05:00) Why Does This Work So Well?(08:13) Lan Xiang: Absurdly Capable… But Earned(13:51) Linda爷: The Male Lead Nobody Wants(22:55) Class, Women & Survival(27:37) This Isn’t Pride and Prejudice. It’s Dickens.(30:51) Against the Current AwardsDisclaimer: Our podcast chats are intended to be casual banter in the name of good fun. There may be jokey remarks and tangents. Don’t take anything said too seriously, and no offense is ever intended!You can catch us on the below platforms:Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@JuniperandElleSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2AduAS26DSekKPO0zA7TwL?si=5e2615385c294083Music by Foximusic - “Not This Time” from www.foximusic.com#juniperandelle #TVAndFilmPodcast #DramaDiscussion #AsianDramaLover #ChineseDrama #AgainstTheCurrent #兰香如故

We finished The Early Spring 早春晴朗 , Blossom Through the Cloud 飞到我心上, and Pull Strings 师兄太稳健—and now comes the reckoning. Did The Early Spring do enough to sell us on that second chance? Is Blossom Through the Cloud’s very cute CP enough to overcome its messy storytelling? And why did Pull Strings suddenly reveal real emotional stakes… before ending with a finale that had us flashing back to Doctor Who?(00:33) Introduction(01:02) The Early Spring: Did the Second Chance Actually Work?(19:53) Blossom Through the Cloud: Cute CP, Messy Storytelling(29:56) Pull Strings: Emotional Stakes… and Suddenly Doctor Who?Disclaimer: Our podcast chats are intended to be casual banter in the name of good fun. There may be jokey remarks and tangents. Don’t take anything said too seriously, and no offense is ever intended!You can catch us on the below platforms:Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@JuniperandElleSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2AduAS26DSekKPO0zA7TwL?si=5e2615385c294083Music by Foximusic - “Not This Time” from www.foximusic.com#juniperandelle #TVAndFilmPodcast #DramaDiscussion #AsianDramaLover #ChineseDrama #TheEarlySpring #早春晴朗 #BlossomThroughtheCloud #飞到我心上 #PullStrings #师兄太稳健

Two workplace romances, two faithful novel adaptations, and two very different reactions. In this pod, we talk about Chinese dramas “The Early Spring” 早春晴朗 and “Blossom Through the Cloud” 飞到我心上. “The Early Spring” is beautifully shot, polished, atmospheric and compelling to watch, but we're struggling with one rather important thing: the central romance. “Blossom Through the Cloud” is lower-budget, tropey, occasionally ridiculous, yet somehow much easier for us to buy as a romance.(00:32) Introduction(01:53) The Early Spring: Beautiful, But Is the Romance Working?(17:25) Blossom Through the Cloud: Tropey, Fun & Surprisingly ConvincingDisclaimer: Our podcast chats are intended to be casual banter in the name of good fun. There may be jokey remarks and tangents. Don’t take anything said too seriously, and no offense is ever intended!You can catch us on the below platforms:Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@JuniperandElleSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2AduAS26DSekKPO0zA7TwL?si=5e2615385c294083Music by Foximusic - “Not This Time” from www.foximusic.com#juniperandelle #TVAndFilmPodcast #DramaDiscussion #AsianDramaLover #ChineseDrama #TheEarlySpring #早春晴朗 #BlossomThroughtheCloud #飞到我心上