THE (The Human Experience) Podcast

Relationships shape nearly every part of our lives—from friendships and romantic partnerships to the dynamics we navigate at work. In this episode of The Human Experience (THE) Podcast, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore the emotional and relational patterns that show up across personal and professional relationships, with particular attention to the fear of judgment and rejection and how it quietly influences how we connect. Through reflective conversation, personal insight, and therapeutic perspective, Carlos and Supna examine how fear of being judged or rejected can lead to people-pleasing, emotional withdrawal, conflict avoidance, or overcompensation in friendships, romantic relationships, and career relationships. They discuss how these fears are often rooted in early experiences and reinforced over time, shaping communication, boundaries, and self-expression. This episode invites listeners to bring awareness to the fears they carry into relationships, soften self-protection strategies, and begin relating from a place of authenticity rather than fear—creating space for deeper connection, emotional safety, and trust across all areas of life. 🎧 In this episode, we explore: Fear of judgment and rejection in friendships, romantic, and career relationships How self-protection patterns show up as people-pleasing or withdrawal Emotional conditioning and its impact on communication and boundaries Staying present instead of reactive when fear is activated Building self-trust and authenticity in relationships How awareness reduces relational anxiety and disconnection ✨ Connection deepens when fear no longer leads the way. 🎶 Special Thanks We are deeply grateful to Michael Hoppe for allowing us to use his extraordinary music in our intro and outro. A Grammy-nominated, Emmy and Academy Award–winning composer, Michael's work has inspired millions worldwide and adds a profound spiritual depth to The Human Experience.   FAIR-USE COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, commenting, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. 1)This video has no negative impact on the original works (It would actually be positive for them). 2)This video is also for teaching purposes. 3)It is not transformative in nature. 4)I only used bits and pieces of videos to get the point across where necessary. The creator does not own the rights to these video clips. It is to bring context and help create an atmospheric feeling that will help and inspire people in their life.  The use is not intended to interfere in any manner with their commercial exploitation of the complete work by the owners of the copyright.  They have, in accordance with fair use, been repurposed with the intent of educating and inspiring others. However, if any content owners would like their images removed, please contact us. Our purpose, when making motivational videos, is to make quality educational motivational videos and share these with our viewers.  

Parenting invites us into some of our deepest growth—challenging our beliefs, emotional patterns, and ideas of balance. In this episode of The Human Experience (THE) Podcast, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore the complexities of work-life balance, conscious parenting, and the emotional intelligence required to raise children with both love and resilience. Carlos reflects on recent professional milestones, including a speaking engagement and a renewed focus on aligning his work with personal values. The conversation naturally expands into deeply personal territory as he shares reflections on family decisions around frozen embryos and the emotions that surface when navigating timing, readiness, and trust in the body's wisdom. Supna and Carlos then dive into their contrasting yet complementary parenting styles. Supna emphasizes connection, explanation, and helping children understand the "why" behind boundaries, while Carlos wrestles with balancing tenderness and firmness—especially in moments that require discipline. Through real-life parenting moments, including rupture and repair, they unpack how gentle and conscious parenting is less about perfection and more about presence, accountability, and emotional honesty. As the episode unfolds, they explore the importance of empathy, quality time, and inner work as foundations for healthy parent-child relationships. From teaching emotional awareness to modeling reconciliation and trust, this conversation invites listeners to reflect on how parenting—and life itself—asks us to grow alongside those we love. 🎧 In this episode, we explore: Balancing work, purpose, and family life Conscious and gentle parenting approaches Love, discipline, and emotional repair Teaching children the "why" behind boundaries Emotional intelligence and empathy in parenting The importance of connection, presence, and inner work ✨ Parenting isn't about having all the answers—it's about growing, repairing, and learning alongside our children. 🎶 Special Thanks We are deeply grateful to Michael Hoppe for allowing us to use his extraordinary music in our intro and outro. A Grammy-nominated, Emmy and Academy Award–winning composer, Michael's work has inspired millions worldwide and adds a profound spiritual depth to The Human Experience. https://youtu.be/V0MwH2Agrqg?si=z4G6-7oB8Wy-1cQz FAIR-USE COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, commenting, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. 1)This video has no negative impact on the original works (It would actually be positive for them). 2)This video is also for teaching purposes. 3)It is not transformative in nature. 4)I only used bits and pieces of videos to get the point across where necessary. The creator does not own the rights to these video clips. It is to bring context and help create an atmospheric feeling that will help and inspire people in their life.  The use is not intended to interfere in any manner with their commercial exploitation of the complete work by the owners of the copyright.  They have, in accordance with fair use, been repurposed with the intent of educating and inspiring others. However, if any content owners would like their images removed, please contact us. Our purpose, when making motivational videos, is to make quality educational motivational videos and share these with our viewers.  

Spirituality is not a single path—it's a deeply personal journey shaped by experience, culture, and inner discovery. In this episode of The Human Experience (THE) Podcast, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi share their evolving spiritual journeys and explore what it truly means to find inner peace and guidance. Through intimate stories and cross-cultural reflections, Carlos and Supna discuss moving beyond structured religion into lived spirituality, the role of meditation and mindfulness in quieting the mind, and how spiritual awareness can be found in everyday moments—through nature, music, relationships, and parenting. They reflect on transformative experiences, including travel, parenthood, and moments of deep surrender, while emphasizing that spiritual guidance ultimately comes from within. The conversation also touches on teaching mindfulness to children, releasing attachment to material desires, and allowing each individual the freedom to discover their own spiritual path. This episode invites listeners to slow down, listen inward, and trust the unfolding of their own journey toward peace and purpose. 🎧 In this episode, we explore: Personal spiritual journeys and evolving beliefs Structured religion vs. internalized spirituality Meditation, mindfulness, and quieting the mind Finding divinity in everyday experiences Parenting, children, and spiritual exploration Inner peace, self-trust, and surrender ✨ Spirituality isn't about following one path—it's about discovering what brings you home to yourself.   🎶 Special Thanks We are deeply grateful to Michael Hoppe for allowing us to use his extraordinary music in our intro and outro. A Grammy-nominated, Emmy and Academy Award–winning composer, Michael's work has inspired millions worldwide and adds a profound spiritual depth to The Human Experience. https://youtube.com/shorts/jTFiFzm5Dr8?si=npMJgNjFFd87Qohm FAIR-USE COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, commenting, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. 1)This video has no negative impact on the original works (It would actually be positive for them). 2)This video is also for teaching purposes. 3)It is not transformative in nature. 4)I only used bits and pieces of videos to get the point across where necessary. The creator does not own the rights to these video clips. It is to bring context and help create an atmospheric feeling that will help and inspire people in their life.  The use is not intended to interfere in any manner with their commercial exploitation of the complete work by the owners of the copyright.  They have, in accordance with fair use, been repurposed with the intent of educating and inspiring others. However, if any content owners would like their images removed, please contact us. Our purpose, when making motivational videos, is to make quality educational motivational videos and share these with our viewers.  

What happens when we stop running from discomfort—and start running straight into it? In this episode of The Human Experience (THE) Podcast, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore running as both a physical challenge and a spiritual practice, uncovering how discipline, mindset, and intentional discomfort can become powerful tools for personal growth. Supna reflects on her experience running a half marathon, sharing how mental preparation, inner stillness, and a surprising absence of self-criticism helped her move through fear and self-doubt. She describes how running—especially outside the structure of a formal race—became a mirror for understanding motivation, identity, and the role external validation plays in performance. The conversation expands into a deeper exploration of why humans naturally avoid discomfort and how choosing hard things can lead to greater self-awareness, resilience, and transformation. Carlos shares reflections on intentionally stepping into challenges, including realizations around long-term career identity and the courage required to question familiar paths after years of commitment. As the episode closes, Supna and Carlos discuss the shift from external motivation to inner drive, the impermanence of difficult moments, and how consistent, small practices can create a foundation for lasting change. This episode invites listeners to reconsider their relationship with discomfort—and to see challenge not as something to escape, but as a teacher guiding them forward. 🎧 In this episode, we explore: Running as a spiritual and reflective practice Mental preparation and quieting the inner critic Fear of failure and finishing what we start Choosing discomfort as a path to growth External validation vs. internal motivation Identity shifts, career reflection, and life transitions ✨ Growth doesn't come from comfort—it comes from choosing to stay present when things get hard. 🎶 Special Thanks We are deeply grateful to Michael Hoppe for allowing us to use his extraordinary music in our intro and outro. A Grammy-nominated, Emmy and Academy Award–winning composer, Michael's work has inspired millions worldwide and adds a profound spiritual depth to The Human Experience. Credit: https://youtu.be/-qgZfjq5B-Q?si=b6HQ_rNC7miItMWG  https://www.tiktok.com/@elevatestart/video/7346304545997311264  https://youtu.be/3PfiARJuUZA?si=1TZTTnP_94BZmO8A https://youtu.be/annDLbI2nzg?si=QMYMsKkxE7ZFe0qO    FAIR-USE COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, commenting, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. 1)This video has no negative impact on the original works (It would actually be positive for them). 2)This video is also for teaching purposes. 3)It is not transformative in nature. 4)I only used bits and pieces of videos to get the point across where necessary. The creator does not own the rights to these video clips. It is to bring context and help create an atmospheric feeling that will help and inspire people in their life.  The use is not intended to interfere in any manner with their commercial exploitation of the complete work by the owners of the copyright.  They have, in accordance with fair use, been repurposed with the intent of educating and inspiring others. However, if any content owners would like their images removed, please contact us. Our purpose, when making motivational videos, is to make quality educational motivational videos and share these with our viewers.      

Shame is one of the most powerful—and misunderstood—human emotions. In this episode of The Human Experience (THE) Podcast, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore the spirituality of shame, how it develops, and how it quietly shapes our self-worth, relationships, and healing journey. Through personal stories, cultural reflections, and therapeutic insight, this conversation unpacks the difference between shame vs. guilt, the impact of parenting and cultural conditioning, and why self-compassion is essential for emotional and spiritual healing. Carlos and Supna also discuss present-centered therapy, emotional awareness, and the importance of trusting your intuition rather than rushing to "fix" yourself. This episode invites listeners to slow down, sit with difficult emotions, and begin releasing shame through understanding, presence, and kindness—transforming pain into growth and self-acceptance. 🎧 In this episode, we explore: What shame is and how it differs from guilt Cultural and childhood roots of shame Parenting, emotional patterns, and long-term impact Self-compassion as a pathway to healing Therapy myths and present-centered healing Emotional awareness and spiritual detachment ✨ Healing isn't about eliminating emotions—it's about learning how to be with them. 🎶 Special Thanks We are deeply grateful to Michael Hoppe for allowing us to use his extraordinary music in our intro and outro. A Grammy-nominated, Emmy and Academy Award–winning composer, Michael's work has inspired millions worldwide and adds a profound spiritual depth to The Human Experience.   Credit: https://youtu.be/uOBB7rhjf-w?si=qmD9WT5lCfpZXCAN https://youtu.be/5C6UELitWkw?si=52tIZafyWmZkqsCn https://youtu.be/Qm1ptQdgTgI?si=SkqxQb9UYuxFouM7 https://youtu.be/5C6UELitWkw?si=52tIZafyWmZkqsCn https://youtu.be/bP8moNSVkCs?si=r4jlmMXLIBHRMo84 FAIR-USE COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, commenting, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use. 1)This video has no negative impact on the original works (It would actually be positive for them). 2)This video is also for teaching purposes. 3)It is not transformative in nature. 4)I only used bits and pieces of videos to get the point across where necessary. The creator does not own the rights to these video clips. It is to bring context and help create an atmospheric feeling that will help and inspire people in their life.  The use is not intended to interfere in any manner with their commercial exploitation of the complete work by the owners of the copyright.  They have, in accordance with fair use, been repurposed with the intent of educating and inspiring others. However, if any content owners would like their images removed, please contact us. Our purpose, when making motivational videos, is to make quality educational motivational videos and share these with our viewers.

What if the universe is always whispering—through dreams, signs, and quiet inner nudges—guiding us toward who we're meant to become? In this episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi share personal stories of receiving unexpected guidance—from vivid dreams to subtle synchronicities—that shaped their choices and deepened their trust in life's larger plan. Together, they explore the delicate balance between following intuition and making practical decisions, and how persistence helps us stay true to our inner compass even when self-doubt creeps in.  "Our inner voice is the thread connecting us to something greater."   "When we surrender goals and hold intentions instead, we create space for the universe to surprise us." This heartfelt conversation unpacks how intuition, surrender, and intention shape our journeys of growth. From David Goggins' relentless inner drive to Supna's evolving relationship with running as a spiritual practice, the episode reminds us that the path is not about controlling outcomes—it's about aligning with a deeper flow.  Available now on all platforms. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #InnerGuidance #Intuition #SpiritualGrowth #TrustTheJourney #PersonalGrowth #UniversalFlow #Mindfulness

What if our hardest moments weren't just things to survive—but invitations to awaken? In this episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore the profound relationship between trauma and spirituality, and how our life challenges—both big and small—can become powerful teachers on the path to healing and self-discovery. From everyday stress and loss to deeper emotional wounds, they unpack how pain can shape our perspective, expand our compassion, and reconnect us with something greater than ourselves. Through stories, insights, and lived experience, Carlos and Supna discuss how trauma can be both a psychological process and a spiritual awakening—when we have the courage to face it with awareness and love.  "Healing isn't about forgetting the pain—it's about finding meaning in it."  "Every challenge carries the potential to open our hearts a little wider." Together, they remind us that spirituality isn't about escaping our humanity—it's about embracing it fully. This conversation offers a compassionate invitation to see trauma not as a life sentence, but as a bridge toward wholeness, resilience, and growth.  Available now on all platforms. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #TraumaHealing #SpiritualGrowth #MindBodyConnection #SelfAwareness #HealingJourney #InnerPeace #TheHumanExperience

Why is it so hard to see ourselves clearly, even when others see our greatness? In this episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi open up about their own struggles with imposter syndrome—the nagging belief that we're not good enough, even in the midst of real accomplishments. From childhood conditioning and cultural expectations to professional milestones and parenting doubts, they reveal the hidden roots of self-doubt and how it quietly shapes our lives.  "Imposter syndrome isn't a sign you're failing—it's a sign you're growing."   "Freedom begins when we stop living for others and start living as our authentic selves." Together, Carlos and Supna explore the mismatch between self-perception and reality, why high achievers often feel like frauds, and the exhaustion of chasing external validation. They share practical tools—like embracing authenticity, reframing feedback, and surrendering control—that help transform imposter syndrome into a catalyst for personal growth. This conversation is a reminder that we don't have to earn our worth—it's already within us. The work is simply remembering who we are.  Available now on all platforms. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #ImposterSyndrome #Authenticity #SelfWorth #PersonalGrowth #HealingJourney #SpiritualAwakening #InnerFreedom

What happens when you spend ten days in silence—with no phones, no reading, no distractions—just you, your thoughts, and your breath? In this episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore the transformative power of meditation through Carlos's experience at a 10-day Vipassana retreat. From 4:30 AM wake-ups to hours of silent sitting, Carlos shares the challenges of facing his restless mind, old wounds, and deep emotions—and the surprising peace and gratitude that emerged on the other side.  "The hardest path often reveals the deepest truths."   "When we stop running from our pain, we begin to heal." This episode goes beyond the retreat itself, touching on meditation as a tool for healing bipolar disorder, processing grief and shame, and awakening to the subtle ways our minds create suffering. Supna also shares how running has become her own form of moving meditation—an anchor of quiet in the midst of training for a marathon. Together, Carlos and Supna remind us that silence is not emptiness—it's an invitation to meet ourselves more fully, to soften the ego, and to reconnect with the soul.  Available now on all platforms. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #MeditationJourney #Vipassana #InnerPeace #HealingThroughSilence #MindfulnessPractice #SelfGrowth #SpiritualAwakening

🎧 EPISODE 5: The Spirituality of Parenthood What if parenting wasn't just about raising children—but about raising ourselves? In this heartfelt episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi dive into the sacred journey of parenthood as a profound spiritual path. Parenthood is not only about guiding little souls, but also about confronting our own patterns, triggers, and opportunities for healing. 💬 "Our children aren't here to become who we want them to be—they're here to help us become who we're meant to be." 👶🏽✨ 💬 "Every tantrum, every challenge, every tender moment is an invitation to grow." From sleepless nights to heart-bursting joy, this conversation reframes parenthood as a spiritual practice—one that calls us to patience, presence, and unconditional love. Drawing on wisdom traditions, lived experience, and the real-life messiness of raising kids, this episode explores how our children can be our greatest teachers. 🎙️ Available now on all platforms. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #SpiritualParenting #ConsciousParenthood #InnerWork #RaisingSouls #ParentingJourney #SpiritualAwakening #SelfGrowth #PodcastClip

🎧 EPISODE 4: The Spirituality of Relationships What if your relationships—every one of them—were part of your spiritual path? In this powerful episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore how romantic, familial, and even fleeting connections are not random... they're mirrors. The people in our lives reflect back to us the places we're still growing, still healing, still awakening. 💬 "What's showing up in this relationship is the work I probably need to do on myself." 🧘🏽‍♀️ "You can run, or you can use it. That's the choice." Whether it's a difficult parent, a triggering partner, or an unexpected friendship, this conversation reframes relationships as sacred ground for self-discovery. Inspired by Ram Dass, Karma Yoga, and lived experience—this episode invites us to stop asking, Why is this happening to me? and instead ask, What is this teaching me? 🎙️ Available now on all platforms. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #SpiritualityAndRelationships #KarmaYoga #SelfGrowth #RamDass #ConsciousRelationships #EmotionalHealing #HumanExperience #PodcastClip #InnerWork #SpiritualAwakening   The Spirituality of Relationships Transcript: [00:00:00] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast, where we explore the depths of spirituality and our own personal journeys and experiences. I'm Dr. Carlos Garcia.  [00:00:11] Supna Doshi: And I'm Supna Doshi. In this space, we'll reflect on the wisdom of some of the most profound spiritual teachers from Eckhart Toi to Ramdas Wayne Dyer, Michael Singer. [00:00:23] Supna Doshi: Together we'll dive into their teachings and share our own insights that have guided us on our own paths of self-discovery. [00:00:30]  [00:00:30] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Each episode will feature inspiring clips from these masters, weaving them into our own reflections and conversations on how spirituality has enriched our daily lives, deepened our understanding of ourselves, and led us to a more meaningful experience. [00:00:47] Supna Doshi: So take a deep breath, open your heart, and join us on this journey of exploration. Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast. [00:01:00] The universe puts relationships in our lives that really are meant to teach us something. I go into something thinking one thing, and then it's it's usually hindsight, but now like I've caught up and now I can say, oh, today my lesson was this. [00:01:17] Supna Doshi: Today, this person taught me this and I learned this about myself and this is where, I have whatever stuck energy or growth opportunity or whatever it's, but because you've lived, I mean you've lived [00:01:30] right through the Marine Corps, through the fire department, through. Like you've lived and had a lot of romantic and non-romantic relationships like that come in, friendships and then now having a partner and a child, like those relationships teach us so much. [00:01:48] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like understanding, right? Like the understanding of these things are always critical and important. Like culturally.  [00:01:55] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like there, there's a shift cognitively that had to happen for me to [00:02:00] even know or understand or, sit with the idea that relationships come into our lives for a reason. [00:02:07] Dr. Carlos Garcia: So oftentimes when I'm doing work as a psychotherapist, people come in and they're like what do I, what do I do with this relationship? And what I offer them is you have. Two options. One of those options is anytime anything feels uncomfortable in your relationship, set boundaries or move away from it, or you use it. [00:02:28] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I think we [00:02:30] have traditionally or in some cultures, it's just easier to move away from the relationships, especially in today's day and age, where like you can go on an app and with, within a couple of hours, have a date later on that evening. It's easy to move out of relationships. [00:02:44] Dr. Carlos Garcia: It's easier to not do the hard thing. I think culturally we're set up that way. It's easier. Look at the divorce rate, right? But when I shifted my mindset to, oh, what's showing up in this relationship is like the [00:03:00] work that I could probably use or need to look at myself, right? This person is mirroring back to me where I potentially have some work to do. [00:03:09] Dr. Carlos Garcia: That was a big shift.  [00:03:12] Supna Doshi: What prompted that shift for you?  [00:03:14] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Probably my delving into spirituality. It just started, as a psychotherapist it was like, oh yeah, great. Just set boundaries here. Or and sometimes that's necessary, right? We, I would never condone an abusive or threatening relationship in any [00:03:30] way. [00:03:30] Dr. Carlos Garcia: But there's these different shades of it, right? So as a psychotherapist, before it was just like, oh, what do you need to do to get out of this relationship? Or what do you need to do to, fix the situation? And yes, maybe that is required at times, but yeah, through spirituality and understanding, like I think what you started to say oh, there's a purpose for these relationships in our lives. [00:03:52] Dr. Carlos Garcia: A big, where I can pinpoint that is, is when I learned about the sort of idea of karma yoga. That, that you use the [00:04:00] things of your life as your work on yourself for spiritual growth. That was the big sort of pivot point for me.  [00:04:08] Supna Doshi: We do have a tendency to move out of relationships, but then there are the relationships with parents and children that I feel like we're not so easy to move out of those relationships, but that we struggle so much in them because maybe that mind shift hasn't happened of oh, I don't have to be right and somebody else be wrong. [00:04:30] Like I can just, I can try to sit back and see what I need to learn.  [00:04:34] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah, those relationships that we can't easily move away from and those, those relationships often when we're talking about family. They can be the most triggering, right? [00:04:44] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like the, those are the ones that get us.  [00:04:46] Supna Doshi: Yeah. I love I heard a talk by Ramdas and he said he went to India and he was on the spiritual path and he was on cloud nine, and he'd go home and his father would say to him, do you have a job? And back he would just [00:05:00] himself.  [00:05:04] Ram Dass: It's hard to appreciate how deep in it we are. [00:05:07] Ram Dass: How deep in the do-do of personality, how real it all is. You all think you have needs that must be met. You all think you have personality identities that must be honored. And even as I say that, I can feel you get tight defending your right to have those things. Isn't that true? I can [00:05:30] feel it in myself too. [00:05:31] Ram Dass: I have a right to be angry. Damn I do. We'll wait, there's no rush. When you finish that trip, we'll still be here [00:05:43] Ram Dass: because awareness isn't in time. It's just here. You want to enjoy your neurosis enjoy, have more, have another helping really climb in. We have gotten so thick in it and so you are either getting into it through abuse of this or [00:06:00] that, or you spend the rest of your life to getting out of it, which is all giving it that plane of reality. [00:06:05] Ram Dass: So much juice, and you look at your relationships from the point of view of your separateness. How will you fulfill my needs? I'll be who you need me to be if you'll be who I need you to be. Now that kind of symbiosis is, that's all fine if you don't get trapped in it. But if you get trapped in it, it's a nightmare. [00:06:27] Ram Dass: It's a nightmare rooted in your sense of [00:06:30] separateness. It's like feeding the illusion of the separateness, which is the root cause of the pain. So if the game is to be happy, the question is whether fulfilling your needs makes you happy, and whether fulfilling your needs makes you any happier than not fulfilling your needs. [00:06:51] Ram Dass: It's an interesting life. It does for the moment, there's no doubt about it, but if you notice that when you live on the realm of needs, the minute one is done, [00:07:00] another one appears you have a hierarchy of needs. So like a motivational hierarchy. I need food now. I need ice cream. Now I need television. Now I need a cold drink. [00:07:15] Ram Dass: Now I need some popcorn. Now I need to go to bed. If you notice that, you just go from one need to another and each one is and then ugh. And then ugh, and then, [00:07:28] oh.  [00:07:29] Ram Dass: Ugh. [00:07:30] It's extraordinary.  [00:07:31] Dr. Carlos Garcia: It's extraordinary. If we can continue to come back to this idea of, what is this person showing me? [00:07:40] Dr. Carlos Garcia: What is this person reflecting back to me that's in me that I can use this opportunity to take a look at to soften, to just observe. Yeah. Because the again, I'll come back to my mother. This was probably a couple months back, but I remember getting off the phone with her and just feeling so frustrated and [00:08:00] observing that frustration and then getting really sad because it's I don't hold anyone else to this standard in my life. [00:08:07] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Not my clients, not my spouse, not my friends, I show up with so much love and just allowing space for them. It's oh my God, like what is this in me that I need to soften and take a look at? I don't want to treat her like that. I don't want to have her feel that way towards me. [00:08:26] Supna Doshi: Did you answer the question? What is it?  [00:08:28] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. I don't know. [00:08:30] I'm probably still working on it. The sort of psychological and familial dynamics that start to occur early on in life, right? It's my understanding of the way that my mother is from her own upbringing that oftentimes she doesn't, her tone or the things that she says or the attitude. [00:08:49] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Is often not even in h

🎧 EPISODE 3: Spiritual Tools That Actually Work How do you reconnect with your spirit when your mind just won't quiet down? In this episode of The Human Experience (THE) Podcast, Supna Doshi and Dr. Carlos Garcia get real about the messy middle of spiritual growth—when you know the tools, but still feel stuck. Together, they explore what it actually takes to stay aligned, grounded, and connected when life feels overwhelming or uncertain. From the power of breath and presence to the role of spiritual community and sacred teachers, this conversation offers real, relatable practices that bridge the gap between who we are and who we're becoming. 🛠️ "You can't force your way into alignment—you have to surrender to it." 💡 "Even spiritual tools need spiritual patience." Whether you're deep on your path or just starting to question the noise of your mind, this episode is a heartfelt reminder: You're not broken. You're becoming. And there are tools that can help. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #SpiritualTools #Integration #MindAndSpirit #Remembering #SpiritualGrowth #PodcastEpisode #HealingJourney #RamDass #WayneDyer #CommunityHealing   Tools for Bridging the Mind & Spirit Transcript: [00:00:00] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast, where we explore the depths of spirituality and our own personal journeys and experiences. I'm Dr. Carlos Garcia.  [00:00:11] Supna Doshi: And I'm Supna Doshi. In this space, we'll reflect on the wisdom of some of the most profound spiritual teachers from Eckhart Toi to Ramdas Wayne Dyer, Michael Singer. [00:00:23] Supna Doshi: Together we'll dive into their teachings and share our own insights that have guided us on our own paths of self-discovery. [00:00:30]  [00:00:30] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Each episode will feature inspiring clips from these masters, weaving them into our own reflections and conversations on how spirituality has enriched our daily lives, deepened our understanding of ourselves, and led us to a more meaningful experience. [00:00:47] Supna Doshi: So take a deep breath, open your heart, and join us on this journey of exploration. Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast. [00:01:00] Thank God for tools. Yeah. 'cause it's the only way that I can bridge the gap for myself between that spirit and the mind. They call it so many different things like mindfulness and meditation and all of the, all of these different terms. [00:01:17] Supna Doshi: But for me, if it, it's a practice, like it's a way of life, but the same ones don't work all the time. It depends on, what I'm going through, where I am, and then [00:01:30] sometimes none of them work. And then I call Carlos and I'm like, okay, Carlos, let me some of your tool bag, two tool bags, because none of mine are working. [00:01:39] Supna Doshi: Like I'm just in my head and I can't get out and I can observe it and be aware of it. But stopping that, from thinking it to action, like stopping that piece can be, has been very challenging recently for me.  [00:01:54] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. I wonder if it would be helpful for [00:02:00] listeners to like, have this sort of contextual framework for what is happening in that space in between. [00:02:08] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Where again, where we can say we're getting lost or where we're forgetting.  [00:02:13] Wayne Dyer: If you took the tiny little spark that began you and tried to find its origination point and reduced it down to its smallest, tiniest fragment, and ultimately put it into a, what we call a particle accelerator and revved it up as fast as you can, rev it up and collided it and tried [00:02:30] to find out what was the basis, what is the spark that began you, what did it look like? [00:02:34] Wayne Dyer: You open up that particle accelerator, you look inside and there's nothing there. You came from energy. Then you were, you were in your parents' womb, your mother's womb for this nine months, and in the nine months of being inside of your mother's womb, everything that you needed for the physical journey and for the entire journey was taken care of. [00:02:59] Wayne Dyer: It was [00:03:00] all handled for you. There was nothing for you to do. In the D it says you are doing nothing. You're just being done. Have you ever had that awareness? You ever look in the mirror and realize that this has nothing to do with anything that you're doing, you're just being done. Things that start happening,  [00:03:24] Dr. Carlos Garcia: That, that distance, yeah, that, that feels like very like my daily work, [00:03:30] right? Ev ever since having this sort of profound awakening moment. I've heard it also described as integration.  [00:03:39] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like how do you come back into daily life and all of the ways that you've been wired with and integrate this thing that you've now experienced within your being. [00:03:50] Supna Doshi: There's such a great, segment I heard from Ramdas where he talks, talked about how he was in India and on that spiritual journey. And then he came [00:04:00] home and his dad just asked him, do you have a job? And like that he was back.  [00:04:06] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. If you think you're enlightened, go home and spend a week with your parents. [00:04:10] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Two, two really powerful things that happened this week that I feel are relevant and can maybe give, an understanding. So one is this. Man that I work with, and he's, not even 20 yet, but has a father that's introduced the da de ching to him very early on in his life. [00:04:27] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And so he's like very [00:04:30] aware. He's very, he's a very conscious, 19-year-old. And, part of our work together is sharing of how frustrating it is the path, right? We don't call it that, but we'll jump on a call and I'm just so frustrated, and why do I feel this way? [00:04:46] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And I'm feeling depressed and I'm feeling disconnected. And then you could just tell over the course of our hour together, some of that starts to just come off. Fade away. And we arrive back at that place of oh, how it all [00:05:00] is. And then there's a shift in mood. [00:05:02] Dr. Carlos Garcia: There's a shift in, in his energy and it's oh, yeah. We just keep forgetting.  [00:05:09] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And by the end of the call, he's I got it. And I was like, okay. So I'll see you next week when you've forgotten again and you're kicking and screaming. Like, why does it have to be this way?  [00:05:18] Supna Doshi: And I feel like to a degree, like as communities, I have this sense that we used to do that before with each other. [00:05:28] Supna Doshi: Yeah. I have this sense [00:05:30] that our community. Was where we turned to when we forgot and they were there to remind us. And I feel, personally, I feel completely isolated and don't, besides my therapist on speed dial, those are the people that I go to be reminded now. And so it just made me think like the more we can have these.[00:06:00]  [00:06:00] Supna Doshi: Conversations with each other on an, normalizing these conversations with each other on a society basis, on a community basis. I think the less intense it would be when we can remind each other.  [00:06:14] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And it speaks to the sort of second incident or event that I wanted to share was having lunch. [00:06:22] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Somebody I just met at a gathering recently and can tell, right? Very hard centered, spiritual but we didn't, we didn't get to [00:06:30] meet, know each other very well. And then over lunch. It was so interesting, like we started this conversation around like business owners and like the challenges and the challenges of life, and then the conversation just organically moved into like this understanding that we are both souls loving beings, navigating this like human existence and. [00:06:57] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Again if you were witnessing this [00:07:00] conversation, you would see it go from this amplified, like anxiety and oh my God, all the things we struggle with to this moment where I just glared right through her eyeballs into her soul and be like, yeah you get what we're doing here, right? [00:07:14] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like you are a part of it all. You are like this. This is what we, this is what we're doing, right? And then this is like moment of like connection and ease. And in some cultures it's called Satan, or it's called the Sangha, right? [00:07:30] I had this really powerful meditation session recently where those words became like really relevant. [00:07:40] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like I understood them on a soul level because I was like, oh my God, I have so many people in my life that like, we haven't communicated to each other that's what we are. That's exactly the purpose that they fulfill in my life. Like you and like other people that are a constant reminder for [00:08:00] me, one of how easy it is to get lost in our humanness, but two of how it feels to then be connected again and remind each other. [00:08:09] Supna Doshi: And I think that's speak. Speaking of kind of a framework or a structure, that's probably like the biggest one. It wasn't even on my. Radar, but I think that is the biggest one. It's like building a community around us where we can have these conversations, where we can remind each other, where how are you, is not, I'm [00:08:30] fine. [00:08:31] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And I think too like the question this young man asked me is like, why do we forget? Why do we keep forgetting and why so often, my understanding. It's probably somewhat primitive understanding, I'm sure of it all. It's just like there are so many. Like just pulls from the system, I call it, right? [00:08:54] Dr. Carlos Garcia: The day to day. The mind is wired to problem solve and seek solutions and [00:09:00] Right. The constant exposure to society and its messaging and social media and and. The ways our personalities and roles have been enforced, and eve

🎧 EPISODE 2: Attachment What happens when we get attached—to joy, to peace, to the idea that we should always feel good? In this episode of The Human Experience Podcast, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi explore the hidden ways attachment shows up on the spiritual path. From plant medicine journeys to emotional highs and lows, they reflect on the illusion of control and the deep wisdom found in surrender. 🌑 "If you're going to have the light, you must also welcome the dark. They are one and the same." Expect honest insights, personal stories, and teachings inspired by Ram Dass, Eckhart Tolle, and Michael Singer. This conversation is a reminder: our healing begins when we stop resisting what is. 💬 New episodes weekly. Your story matters here. #TheHumanExperiencePodcast #Attachment #SpiritualAwakening #ShadowWork #HealingJourney #Mindfulness #LettingGo #PodcastWisdom       Attachment Transcript: [00:00:00] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast, where we explore the depths of spirituality and our own personal journeys and experiences. I'm Dr. Carlos Garcia.  [00:00:11] Supna Doshi: And I'm Supna Doshi. In this space, we'll reflect on the wisdom of some of the most profound spiritual teachers from Eckhart ToLLE to Ramdas Wayne Dyer, Michael Singer. [00:00:23] Supna Doshi: Together we'll dive into their teachings and share our own insights that have guided us on our own paths of self-discovery. [00:00:30]  [00:00:30] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Each episode will feature inspiring clips from these masters, weaving them into our own reflections and conversations on how spirituality has enriched our daily lives, deepened our understanding of ourselves, and led us to a more meaningful experience. [00:00:47] Supna Doshi: So take a deep breath, open your heart, and join us on this journey of exploration. Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience [00:01:00] Podcast.  [00:01:00] Dr. Carlos Garcia: One of the other episodes I talked a little bit about my experience with Ayahuasca and two of the most powerful ceremonies. It was really interesting. [00:01:08] Dr. Carlos Garcia: 'cause one was, if I can describe it as such, it was just like pure light. It was pure love. It was pure just bliss. It was like this ultimate experience of just connection and purity. Then the very next night, all of the opposite. It was darkness. It was [00:01:30] evil. It was I say at times like, like going to battle with my mind and like shame and the evil of humanity and the ways that we often have treated each other through time and just like a darkness that I didn't know my mind was capable of. [00:01:50] Dr. Carlos Garcia: But having come out of that hell the first sort of notion that arrived is oh, that too, right? If you're gonna have the other one, [00:02:00] this one's a part of it too. We are all of it. And although it often feels like there's a distance or that they're different I think the sort of resounding truth that arrived for me is like they're one and the same. [00:02:13] Supna Doshi: How are they one and the same? Because they don't feel one and the same.  [00:02:18] Dr. Carlos Garcia: When we bring it into the human experience the part of the human experience that, like where emotions are involved. Again, I'm [00:02:30] using challenges and joys or the ups and downs or the good and the bad, right? [00:02:34] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like that's the duality is that we're framing these things as one or the other. And I think in that is where we get lost. Like the experience that has been consistent for my clients this week is I just can't understand Carlos. I was just feeling great last week. Why am I here? I don't want to be here. [00:02:53] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And this is confusing and this feels horrible. And it feels sad and it feels.  [00:02:59] Ram Dass: I [00:03:00] work with dying and I say, what should I tell people about dying? And he said, Ram Dass, tell them, tell people that dying is absolutely safe. Which is a just a wonderful one-liner. I think it's a, he said it's like taking off a tight shoe. [00:03:16] Ram Dass: So who would not trust somebody with likeness like that? So I asked Emmanuel, what am I doing here on Earth? Who made this error? And what am I? Why am I here? And he said, Ram Dass. He said you're [00:03:30] in school. Why don't you try taking the curriculum? Why don't you try being human? I never thought of that. [00:03:35] Ram Dass: Understand, because I was busy trying to be divine. And I thought that if somehow I did it all perfectly enough, I fasted long enough. I prayed hard enough that sort of era of my humanity would disappear and I would be divine. And what he said was, your freedom lies. Through your humanity, not in spite of it.[00:04:00]  [00:04:00] Supna Doshi: I think when you described ayahuasca, like that was my juxtaposition was my pregnancy and then the postpartum, like that was my light and dark. And it was it was exactly how you describe it, like polar opposites, like you can't understand. But I think, like I find myself with my kids. A lot of times, like they'll say something oh, this was good or [00:04:30] this was bad. [00:04:31] Supna Doshi: And I'll say, it wasn't good or bad. It just was like, it's not good or bad, it just is. And that logical explanation Nation is so far removed from the feeling that it evokes. In us as humans that I think, like it's almost, we have to either be, we just have to be in our heart because our head doesn't get us there.[00:05:00]  [00:05:00] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. Yeah. I, one of the clients I worked with this week had just experienced a psychedelic journey with mushrooms. One of the pig sort of moments of insight and awareness for him. It, it was this idea of the sort of evil in the world. But that's part of my humanity too. [00:05:21] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I'm capable of that evil too, that that lives inside of me too. But so does the beauty in all of the joy and like the love and the [00:05:30] compassion like that also. Yeah I mean I know that like for me. To make it a little bit more concrete For years I can see the ways that I pushed away, sadness, shame again these negative emotions. [00:05:47] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And it's, and that. Oftentimes in the pushing away, in the resistance that I created of not allowing that in, I created more suffering for myself. And that as I started to open [00:06:00] myself up to feel more of that when it arises. The most amazing part is that when joy comes and when gratitude comes and when like joyous things happen in life. [00:06:14] Dr. Carlos Garcia: My heart is able to experience it at a much greater degree. It's a reminder for me that I can't shut myself off to any of it. And that if if I rationally and logically, if I go into my mind and remind myself when [00:06:30] moments are really hard oh, let you know. So easier said than done, but this too, right? This is just another one. This is just another emotion. This is just another passing phenomenon. Just another thing that's gonna pass like this too, will go, this too is not here to stay. The trick is to then do that when things are going really well, right? Yeah.  [00:06:53] Supna Doshi: To not attach to that. [00:06:54] Supna Doshi: The hi. Yeah. And to say this too will pass.  [00:06:58] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. Not so easy. Hopefully. [00:07:00]  [00:07:00] Supna Doshi: Yeah. Not so easy. I think that's the human experience, right? We as humans, like I, sometimes I struggle with the conversation about the universe, and then I do believe in free will and choice. And so I think for me, that human experience of, and I've seen it in myself very recently, is I create my own suffering  [00:07:23] Supna Doshi: and I create my own feelings that don't feel as good as the high, and that I [00:07:30] have a choice in that, and that it's my choice that I am making and that I can something different if I want to and if I wanna suffer for what's. [00:07:42] Supna Doshi: That thorn in your side where you know you, it hits you and then you don't let it pass through, and then it just stays there and it gets stuck and it grows. And there's also like the conversation about [00:08:00] the psyche and why is it that those. Quote unquote negative experiences are the ones that we will be playing in our head over and over again and continue to experience that suffering. [00:08:11] Supna Doshi: We don't do it with the good stuff.  [00:08:14] Supna Doshi: Our brains just don't do it with the good stuff.  [00:08:17] Michael Singer: This is the artwork of God. All of it. Everything. Do people, can you go into museums where the artwork is really dark? Somebody very depressed. Painted this stuff and they [00:08:30] sell for millions of dollars. What was called scream was that famous painting, right? [00:08:35] Michael Singer: You can't buy that thing for millions and millions of dollars. You understand that all of it is art. All of it. A rainy day is art. The sunny day is art. The hurricane is art. The tornadoes art is all expression. It's unbelievable. There are people really get off on chasing tornadoes. God is everything. [00:08:56] Michael Singer: Everything is God. It is the expression of the [00:09:00] divine force that is infinite. It doesn't have morality. What is morality? Something you made up in your mind? Oh, Mickey said we should be immoral. He did not do different cultures, have different morality, do different religion of different beliefs. Who's right? [00:09:14] Michael Singer: Nobody. It's not of the mind.  [00:09:18] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I wonder how much of this plays a role. I think, at least for me, when I. In a moment or moments of suffering. It's almost like my mind [00:09:30] races to try and understand what's happening as much as possible. Almost like I imagine, 'cause a part of me wants to avoid it in the future if I can. [00:09:38] Dr. Carlos Garcia: What are all the things that culminated that happen that might be under my control so

🌿 NEW EPISODE: Awakening 🌿 🎙️ Ep. 01 of The Human Experience Podcast is here! In this deeply reflective episode, Dr. Carlos Garcia and Supna Doshi invite you into a conversation about surrender, spiritual remembering, and the cycles of awakening and forgetting. ✨ "The forgetting is the remembering." 🌀 Meditation, music, and presence become anchors in the human experience. 📞 Plus — we're opening up our voicemail line! Call (800) 791-3884 to share your story, question, or insight with us. Your voice could be part of a future episode. #HumanExperiencePodcast #SpiritualAwakening #MindfulnessJourney #PodcastLaunch #ConsciousLiving     Awakening Transcript: Dr. Carlos Garcia: Welcome to THE Podcast – The Human Experience Podcast, where we explore the depths of spirituality and our own personal journeys and experiences. I'm Dr. Carlos Garcia… Supna Doshi: …and I'm Supna Doshi. In this space, we'll reflect on the wisdom of some of the most profound spiritual teachers, from Eckhart Tolle to Ram Dass, Wayne Dyer, and Michael Singer. Together, we'll dive into their teachings and share our own insights that have guided us on our own paths of self-discovery. Dr. Carlos Garcia: Each episode, we'll feature inspiring clips from these masters, weaving them into our own reflections and conversations on how spirituality has enriched our daily lives, deepen our understanding of ourselves, and led us to a more meaningful existence. Supna Doshi: So, take a deep breath, open your heart, and join us on this journey of exploration. Welcome to THE Podcast – The Human Experience Podcast. [00:00:41] Supna Doshi: I think that's the power of surrender that is in the, in essence, when we can let go of our beliefs and our, uh, everything we've been taught and everything we've been told and everything we believe. Mm-hmm. Just the most miraculous things [00:01:00] happen they're noticing. And the funny thing to me, the funniest part is how easy it is to forget how quickly I can forget the magic of this and go straight back into my human, or, you know, there's so many different words for it being asleep or being human, or the ego voice or whatever it is where you. [00:01:24] Supna Doshi: I forget for a little while that, you know, like I lose my, [00:01:30] my, um, my balance isn't even the right word. Like, I just lose my sense of spirit for a while.  [00:01:37] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. I mean, I, I I really love what you said there. You like, fall back asleep. You just, you, you, you know, with some clients I describe it as like the, the system that. [00:01:50] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Pulls us away from remembering is so strong, right? Like it's just, maybe, maybe it's meant to be that way, but it's so strong, right? [00:02:00] Culturally, the messages, the, the, the desires that we're sort of right are just naturally built into us, right? Like just pulling our attention away constantly. Mm. You know, to the point where, you know, I'll say to clients like, this is my remembering. [00:02:17] Dr. Carlos Garcia: This is my remembering. The music is the remembering. The meditation is the remembering. The pictures I keep around me are the, remember, like, like you just, or at least my experience has been, you build [00:02:30] more and more frequent and, um, and, and just more in terms of you just more remembering, right? You just gotta, you just gotta keep. [00:02:42] Supna Doshi: Yeah, because it  [00:02:43] Dr. Carlos Garcia: so easy,  [00:02:43] Supna Doshi: but it's so easy to forget. It's also so hard to stay in that space.  [00:02:47] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Oh, so hard. Yeah. I mean, I, I, you know, I see why yogis go off and meditate for 20, 18 hours a day. Right? Like,  [00:02:55] Supna Doshi: yeah,  [00:02:57] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I get it.  [00:02:57] Supna Doshi: And it was interesting 'cause I was listening to a [00:03:00] podcast by, uh, uh, Randolph the other day, and there was, it was like a q and a session, and the question was. [00:03:08] Supna Doshi: You know, how do you like how, why do we fall asleep and awaken and fall asleep and awaken? And his answer was that it is actually all part of the awakening process.  [00:03:22] Dr. Carlos Garcia: The forgetting. The forgetting is the remembering.  [00:03:25] Ram Daas: To the extent that you attempt to push away, falling back asleep, that is [00:03:30] already another asleep mechanism. [00:03:32] Ram Daas: But in a funny way to say, there's really nothing you can do about it because even your attempts to get out of it are all a certain kind of sleepwalking, but in the same moment, you can't not do something about it. So you do. You climb a mountain, you follow a path, you do any of the methods that you are attracted to, for example, quieting your mind. [00:03:54] Ram Daas: Or, um, opening your heart, uh, like [00:04:00] meditating or singing or going to church or service or whatever, or pitting the mind against the mind through Zen and Koans or whatever. All of it will push you and push you, but sooner or later you're gonna have to, you get trapped by your methods and they'll keep you asleep and you'll become a good meditator or, uh, you know, uh, I love Christ, but it'll be a sleep kind of statement. [00:04:24] Ram Daas: And then you'll have to let go of that one too. But all of these are useful techniques to [00:04:30] keep working and you've gotta hear what your own technique is. Uh, the first thing is not to be bugged about going back to sleep. Just experience that it was grace that, that that death allowed you to awaken for a moment because the minute you try to grab onto the memory of what it was, you're just holding onto an old dead butterfly. [00:04:51] Ram Daas: So you go back to sleep and then you wake up again. The fact that you're even asking that question is the awakening process at work. You have to stand [00:05:00] back one step further and see your whole life, the awakening and the going to sleep, all as awakening. Just get into a bigger time span and you'll be able to allow the dance to go on up and down and up and down, okay? [00:05:13] Ram Daas: But you have to listen for your own method, and people have unique methods that they will be attractive to them.  [00:05:19] Supna Doshi: It's mind blowing.  [00:05:21] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah,  [00:05:21] Supna Doshi: because I wanna know how it happened for you guys.  [00:05:24] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. Yeah.  [00:05:24] Supna Doshi: How'd you get on this path? I remember, I remember like it was yesterday when we were [00:05:30] sitting in whatever cafe that was  [00:05:32] Dr. Carlos Garcia: the broken yolk cafe. [00:05:34] Supna Doshi: The Broken Yolk cafe that I remember.  [00:05:38] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah, yeah. And, and we were sitting there and I must have just been in my tirade, right? Like, like I can, I can, I can familiar, I'm very familiar with this aspect of myself. I, I mean, 'cause I still experience it at times, just probably not to the same degree, but I think I was just spouting out like where I'm not yet, [00:06:00] like all of my frustrations about professionally and. [00:06:03] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like, what am I supposed to be doing? And probably something about financially not being somewhere and just, yeah. This like anxious, attaching, desiring energy, just kind of spilling all over the eggs, right? Like yeah, I remember it like it was yesterday. And you, um, during that conversation, um, suggested Mickey singer's the surrender experiment. [00:06:27] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Um, in a couple of days or maybe some [00:06:30] weeks later, I, I, I bought it and started to read it. I, I wanna go back and read that book because I, I, I know that that was the beginning of the process for me of understanding that there was a world I can live in that wasn't driven from this angst. That wasn't driven from, from, from all of the messages I had received up till that point in my life about how you live a, a, a successful or fulfilled [00:07:00] or happy life, whatever, you know, whatever that thing is. [00:07:02] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Um, and, and yeah, that, that book that sort of was, was that first. Sort of opening, right? That first sort of message that through letting go, we can arrive at a place of, of just greater peace, greater happiness, greater joy for our lives. And I think part of, you know. That spoke to me was how successful he became by letting go. [00:07:27] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I was like, oh yeah, this 'cause  [00:07:29] Supna Doshi: [00:07:30] that's what I want.  [00:07:31] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah, that's what I want. So, of course, right. So yeah, it was the first step. That was the first step. Um, and then the, I think the thing for me that really just pushed it, uh, yeah, that, that just really, uh, where I went from knowing in my mind to knowing in my soul. [00:07:51] Michael Singer: I, I think the right place to start is not with what happened, but with the inner awakening that happened, and that is back in my twenties. I was [00:08:00] in graduate school finishing a doctorate in economics, and I woke up and I can't explain why or anything like that. I just started to see that. I was in here and that my mind was talking all the time, and that my heart was emoting these emotions and that I used to listen to all that. [00:08:19] Michael Singer: It used to be every reaction, every reactionary thing the mind did and the heart did. I would just be in there jumping, frail around, trying to be okay, and [00:08:30] I woke up one day. Alright. And started to watch that instead of be that while I'm taking my shower, I have entertainment going on inside my head. You know, somebody sitting there talking to me and then it didn't take very long for me to realize it really wasn't that entertaining. [00:08:45] Michael Singer: It was like pretty negative. It was mostly. The psychological mumbo jumbo, you know, insecurities and fear and defensiveness and, you know, finishing arguments that happened seven years ago are still