We'll Sleep When We're Dead

Sam and Lucy share their wildest travel stories and reveal the unexpected lessons behind managing children in tight spaces. From screaming flights to airport rescue missions, discover how even the most chaotic moments can teach you about patience, priorities, and energy management.This episode is perfect for busy parents, overwhelmed travelers, and anyone feeling like they're just surviving life — because sometimes, giving yourself permission to do less is the real success. If your days feel overwhelming and your energy is scattered, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone—and that smaller, smarter choices can help you reclaim your peace. Get ready for laughs, real talk, and unexpectedly empowering insights that will help you handle everyday chaos with a little more grace. Whether you're navigating messy mornings or epic travel days, this episode will leave you feeling understood, inspired, and ready to reset your energy — even if your kids refuse to cooperate.Find Mel Goodman ⁠https://www.workmom.io/about⁠wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Sam talked to Lauren Weinberg who shares how strategic organization and unwavering boundaries help her show up fully for her family and her career, even in demanding roles at Yahoo, Peloton, and now Supergoop.In this candid conversation, Lauren reveals the mindset shifts that transformed her approach to motherhood, leadership, and personal fulfillment. You’ll discover the power of intentional scheduling and boundary-setting that allows her to be present for her teenage sons’ final years at home, while still actively shaping her career in competitive, fast-paced industries. She shares her real-life hacks—from orchestrating meal plans to managing a hectic schedule with a calendar obsession—to reclaim time without guilt.Lauren also explores the importance of cultivating a personal advisory board, embracing optimism as a leadership strength, and learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with her values or family priorities. Her insights on the evolution of workplace support for working parents—and her honest reflections on mom guilt—offer a blueprint for anyone navigating the complex blend of ambition and family.Perfect for working moms, emerging leaders, and anyone craving practical strategies to make the most of limited time, this episode challenges the myth of doing it all. Lauren’s story proves that with clarity, boundaries, and a village of support, you can make meaningful progress in your career and create cherished moments with your loved ones—without sacrifice or guilt. Hit play and start reimagining how you can thrive at work and at home.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Sam reflect on their last weeks podcast with Mel Goodman on the four types of mental load—and how each impacts your sense of self and wellbeing. We break down practical ways to recognize which load feels the heaviest right now and how a shift in perspective can free up mental space. From navigating the emotional worries that halo over everything, to managing the chaos of logistics with small yet powerful shifts—this is real talk for overwhelmed moms trying to find balance.You'll also hear candid stories about the chaos of school parties, the transformative power of saying no, and how prioritizing your mental health isn’t just a luxury—it’s a necessity. We get into how motherhood shifts your identity, why the first years are a fog of loss and rediscovery, and how to reclaim your sense of self amid the hustle. Plus, practical tips on easing logistical burdens like managing schedules, chores, and even solo travel with kids—because a lighter mental load isn’t just a dream, it’s within reach.If you ever felt guilty for feeling exhausted or wondered if you’re the only one struggling to balance it all, this episode is your permission slip to breathe. Perfect for moms in the trenches, new parents questioning their identity, or anyone overwhelmed by the invisible weight of motherhood. Let this episode be your reminder that you’re not alone—and that with understanding, you can lighten the load and reclaim your joy.Join us as we unpack the emotional and mental chaos, bust myths about perfection, and explore real strategies to handle the unmanageable. This isn’t just talk—it’s a blueprint for mothers ready to prioritize their wellbeing and rediscover themselves. Hit play and start lifting that invisible weight today.Find Mel Goodman ⁠https://www.workmom.io/about⁠wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Mel Goodman is the founder of WorkMom, a transformational coach and thought leader in navigating motherhood and career. Her work helps women reimagine success and reclaim their identities beyond societal expectations. In this episode, you'll discover how women’s evolving concepts of success actually help them make better decisions—if they give themselves permission to think differently. Mel shares practical ways to recognize the four hidden loads every working mom faces: mental, logistical, emotional, and most surprisingly—identity overload. You’ll learn how to identify your current season’s priorities and set the guardrails necessary for boundaries and mental clarity, even amid relentless demands.We break down: the real meaning behind mom guilt and how it’s a signal, not a shame trigger; how to manage the constant availability trap without burning out; and why revisiting your core identity isn't a one-time event but a regular practice—especially when life's chapters shift. You’ll also hear why giving yourself permission to evolve your definition of success opens the door to more fulfillment, freedom, and impact—and how to trust that good enough is often perfect for this season of life.This episode is perfect for high-achieving women feeling overwhelmed, stuck, or questioning if they can truly have it all. If you’re ready to drop the guilt, set meaningful boundaries, and craft a success story that aligns with who you are today, don’t miss this soul-nourishing conversation. Your next step toward clarity and confidence starts here.Find Mel Goodman https://www.workmom.io/aboutwswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

This episode dives into the ultimate snow day mindset shift that can transform your toughest days. Whether you're drowning in remote learning frustrations, juggling work-from-home chaos, or just trying to survive the snowpocalypse with your sanity—and humor—intact, this is your must-listen. We explore how real moms and working parents navigate the chaos, share hilarious yet relatable stories about lost products, closet-sized snow plays, and the stress of managing fussy kids in layers of gear. You’ll discover practical mindset shifts, plus behind-the-scenes tales of epic game days, viral moments, and lessons in resilience that remind us: it’s okay if your chapter looks messy.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam welcome Katie Poehling Seymour, the fifth-generation leader of First Supply, a 128-year-old family business. Katie shares her journey from consulting to becoming CEO, the importance of succession planning, and balancing her roles as a business leader and mother of three. The conversation delves into the challenges and rewards of leading a family business, the significance of having advocates in one's career, and the evolving conversation around work-life integration, especially for women in leadership roles.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Lucy and Samantha dive into the whirlwind of motherhood, sharing stories that range from the humorous to the deeply reflective. Whether it's dealing with unexpected travel companions or pondering the nature versus nurture debate, they offer a heartfelt glimpse into their lives. Perfect for anyone looking to laugh, relate, and reflect. wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Join hosts Lucy and Sam as we dive into an engaging conversation with Rachel Mansfield, a dynamic cookbook author, recipe developer, and entrepreneur. Rachel shares her journey from starting a kid's snack brand, cadootz, to balancing life as a mom of three. Discover her insights on work-life integration, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the joys of family life. Tune in for an inspiring episode filled with laughter, real talk, and a glimpse into Rachel's world of creativity and resilience.Buy cadootz here, https://cadootz.com/. Find Rachel at https://rachlmansfield.com/wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In the latest episode of the podcast "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Sam and Lucy celebrate the dawn of a new year, sharing their personal reflections and excitement for what lies ahead in 2026. As they embark on their first podcast recording together, they blend humor, candidness, and relatable anecdotes to engage listeners in a conversation about fresh starts and self-discovery.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

We are ending 2025 by replaying our most popular episode in 2025! Lucy and Sam explore the challenges and joys of parenting, career paths, and personal growth. They discuss their experiences as mothers, the struggles of sleep deprivation, and their individual career paths. The conversation also delves into reflections on age, aspirations for their children, and the balance between work and family life. With humor and vulnerability, they share insights on self-care and the journey of motherhood, ultimately encouraging each other to embrace their paths and inspire their kids.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Join hosts Lucy and Sam in a special compilation episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead." As they wrap up 2025, they share a collection of the best insights, mom hacks, and life advice from their amazing guests throughout the year. From nutrition tips to balancing career and family, this episode is packed with practical advice and heartfelt stories. Tune in for a dose of inspiration as you set your goals for 2026!wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, join hosts Lucy and Sam as they sit down with Broadway star Ginna Claire Mason. Dive into Ginna Claire’s journey from her childhood dreams to the bright lights of Broadway, and discover how she balances her thriving career with motherhood. From hilarious backstage stories to heartfelt discussions on mom guilt and community, this episode is a delightful blend of laughter, inspiration, and real-life insights. Whether you're a theater enthusiast or a parent navigating the chaos of daily life, this conversation is sure to resonate. Tune in for a candid chat that celebrates the beauty of pursuing dreams while cherishing family.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam discuss the challenges of parenting during the holiday season, the mental load of organizing summer camps, and the joy of supporting their favorite sports teams. They share personal anecdotes about balancing family life, the importance of saying no, and the excitement of holiday preparations. The conversation is filled with humor, relatable experiences, and a reminder that it's okay to feel overwhelmed during this busy time of year.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this heartfelt episode, we dive into the unexpected challenges of parenting as we recount a day filled with tears and toothaches. We also delve into the topic of redshirting a kindergarten kid, discussing the pros and cons of delaying school entry for a year. Through these stories, we reflect on the unpredictable journey of parenting and the moments that test our patience and empathy.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this engaging conversation, the Lucy and Sam explore the life of a coach's wife, discussing the challenges and rewards of managing family life with a traveling spouse. They delve into the importance of building a support system, navigating uncertainty, and the mental load of parenting. The discussion highlights personal experiences, career decisions, and the significance of community connections, providing valuable insights for listeners in similar situations. In this engaging conversation, Carol shares her experiences and insights on balancing family life with a career, particularly in the context of her husband's demanding job in the NBA. She discusses the challenges of parenting through different stages, especially during high school, and reflects on the worries that come with raising children. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-care, communication, and the evolving nature of motherhood as children grow older. Carol emphasizes the need to not sweat the small stuff and to focus on what truly matters in parenting.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Sam and Lucy share personal stories about the challenges of parenting, the importance of community support, and the unexpected adventures that come with motherhood. From marathon experiences to dealing with a child's breath-holding incidents, they highlight the significance of accepting help and building a supportive village.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode Sam and Lucy welcome Misse Daniel, the founder of Honey Bee Weddings in Chicago. Misse shares her journey from consulting to becoming a successful wedding planner, balancing her career with motherhood, and her innovative approach to sustainable luxury weddings. Tune in to hear about the challenges and triumphs of running a business, the importance of family time, and the evolving trends in the wedding industry. Plus, get inspired by Misse's hustle and her commitment to making a positive impact.Email us! wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

Join Samantha and Lucy as they dive into the world of marathon training, from the challenges of carb loading to the excitement of running through the vibrant streets of New York City. Discover the hilarious moments of running without headphones, the emotional journey of preparing for a big race, and the unique Halloween traditions in Brooklyn. Whether you're a seasoned runner or just love a good story, this episode is packed with laughter, insights, and inspiration.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this episode, Kaitlyn Trabucco shares her journey from corporate America to entrepreneurship, highlighting the pivotal moment when she was laid off shortly after her 40th birthday. She discusses the creation of Looky Lou, a product inspired by her experiences as a mother, and the challenges and joys of balancing a startup with family life. The conversation delves into the importance of authenticity in social media, the value of rest, and the evolving nature of work-life balance. Kaitlyn's story is one of resilience, creativity, and embracing new opportunities with confidence.The Looky Lou TheLookyLou AND on AmazonFind us on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD

In this engaging episode of "We'll Sleep When We're Dead," hosts Lucy and Sam dive into the ups and downs of family life, focusing on their personal experiences with au pairs. They share candid stories about the challenges and joys of integrating an au pair into their households, offering insights into how this decision has impacted their family dynamics. Tune in for a heartfelt discussion that explores the balance of parenting, the importance of support, and the unique journey of raising children with a little extra help.wswd.podcast@gmail.comFollow us: Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠Find us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠tiktok⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube @WSWWD