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The eMobility Marketing Podcast
Author: Theo Reichgelt
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The eMobility Marketing Podcast is hosted by Theo Reichgelt, author of the eMobility Marketing Playbook (expected in May 2025), creator of the eMobility ecosystem canvas, and founder of Nexxt Industry, Europe's leading eMobility marketing agency. The podcast series discusses the unique aspects of marketing for eMobility brands, the eMobility ecosystem, industry insights, and interviews with eMobility professionals.
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Welcome to the eMobility Marketing Podcast. In this episode, Theo speaks with Arne Meusel, Managing Director and Co-Founder of
CIRRANTIC, the company behind one of the most sophisticated POI data pipelines in the e-mobility ecosystem. While most CPOs focus on pricing, campaigns, or hardware upgrades to boost utilization, Arne argues the real battle is fought much earlier: visibility.
If your charging locations are not accurately represented on Google Maps, Apple Maps, in-car navigation, MSP apps, and roaming platforms, you’re effectively invisible—and drivers will not trust, choose, or return to your stations.
Arne breaks down how fragmented data flows create duplicates, outdated photos, inaccurate naming, and mismatched real-time availability across platforms. He explains why CPOs often lose control of their POI data, why Google is especially difficult to manage directly, and how CIRRANTIC helps operators regain ownership of their digital footprint.
The conversation goes deep into how visibility and marketing reinforce each other: once the data foundation is correct, marketing can finally work—whether that’s paid media on specific Google POIs, contextual campaigns, dynamic pricing promotions, or brand-building for new charge parks. Without that foundation, no marketing can compensate for a bad digital experience.
This episode is essential for CPOs, product teams, and marketing leads who want to move from data → trust → preference → utilization, and who understand that EV charging is now a digital product as much as a physical asset.
CHAPTERS
(00:00) Bad POI Data, Bad Outcomes
(03:00) The Visibility Challenge
(06:11) How POI Data Reaches Maps
(09:20) Why Direct Google Links Fail
(12:05) Fixing Duplicates and Errors
(15:26) CIRRANTIC’s Cleanup Process
(17:46) How Drivers Choose Stations
(19:49) Trust and Real-Time Accuracy
(23:32) Data + Marketing Synergy
(32:07) The Future of EV Charging Data
Connect with Arne Meusel
LinkedIn: Arne MeuselWebsite: https://cirrantic.com/
Hosted by Theo Reichgelt
LinkedIn: Theo Reichgelt
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif & Kroo
Website: MassifKroo.com
For inquiries/sponsoring: email: hello@MassifKroo.com
Welcome to the e-Mobility Marketing Podcast. In this episode, Theo speaks with Victoria Ulbricht, an event sales and activation specialist who supports renewable energy and e-mobility companies in turning trade fairs into real sales outcomes.
Most brands invest heavily in booths, travel, logistics, and sponsorships—but leave without a single measurable deal because they rely on hope instead of preparation, positioning, and structured follow-up.
Victoria breaks down a practical model: start 4–6 weeks before the event with a focused story built around your ICP (ideal customer profile), design a booth element that triggers curiosity and conversations, qualify fast using prepared questions, and close the loop with an immediate, personalized follow-up automation.
She explains why curiosity beats brochures, why preparation beats charisma, how to combine sales with engineering voices onsite, how to avoid “dead-booth syndrome,” and how to measure event ROI using deal math and ICP-qualified conversations.
This episode is a no-nonsense blueprint for founders, SMEs, scale-ups, and technical teams who want events to function like pipeline engines rather than expensive field trips.
CHAPTERS
(00:00) Why preparation is visible instantly at events(01:13) Victoria’s work with SMEs in renewables and mobility(01:48) Why companies underperform: no dedicated sales process(02:51) The difference between “showing up” and “showing up strong”(03:13) Using curiosity triggers to pull people into conversations(04:09) Event story, ICP focus, and aligned messaging(05:06) Why campaigns must launch 4–6 weeks before the booth opens(06:49) Turning conversations into qualified leads onsite(07:39) Victoria’s simple automation
(10:17) Why follow-up speed wins deals(12:21) CRM and minimum viable tool stacks for SMEs(14:06) Storyline discipline: one core problem, not a list(18:05) Conversation tactics for introverts and non-sales teams(19:47) Qualification questions and when to walk away(23:25) Speaking slots and traffic strategy(25:20) Who should attend: sales, technical, leadership(28:42) Lead vs awareness goals and KPI definition(31:09) Backward ROI math: conversations → conversion → deal value(32:41) Measuring ICP-match ratio(33:30) Visit as guest first, then decide on a booth(35:10) The core rule: preparation creates momentum
Connect with Victoria Ulbricht
Website: https://www.conductr.io/de/
LinkedIn: Victoria Ulbricht
Hosted by Theo Reichgelt
LinkedIn: Theo Reichgelt
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif & Kroo
Website: MassifKroo.com
For inquiries/sponsoring: email: hello@MassifKroo.com
Welcome to the e-Mobility Marketing Podcast! Theo sits down with Maarten Hachmang, founder of LaadpasTop10.nl and curator of one of Europe’s most trusted EV charging price databases.
Together they unpack how pricing, transparency, and reliability shape brand perception for charge point operators—and why a tight, predictable tariff band outperforms “cheapest today.”
Maarten explains how pricing is expectation management, why uptime beats discounts, how ad-hoc QR failures destroy trust, and why MSPs are demand engines rather than margin drains.
From AFIR-driven transparency to BI tools that benchmark tariffs at site level, this episode shows CPOs how to align pricing, maintenance, and communication into a coherent, durable strategy.
If you’re a CPO, EMSP, marketer, or enterprise growth leader, you’ll get a blunt playbook: mitigate extremes, publish the full cost (kWh + start + blocking + VAT), fix maintenance before marketing, and be boringly predictable.
Chapters
(01:27) Why Maarten built a charging price database
(05:23) How pricing transparency evolved under AFIR
(08:35) Direct pay vs MSPs: who drives demand
(12:12) Price as brand positioning for CPOs
(16:06) What drivers actually care about: location, then reliability
(20:26) The Shell effect: when brand feels expensive
(23:42) Why maintenance matters more than marketing
(28:16) Stable energy markets shrink pricing obsession
(32:16) Price mismatch: app vs invoice explained
(34:40) QR failures and broken ad-hoc charging flows
(40:23) How LaadpasTop10 helps EV drivers choose
(43:48) The BI tool for pricing and station visibility
(45:59) Why dynamic pricing needs clear rules
(50:13) Be boring: mitigate extremes, build trust
(52:12) Stop blaming MSPs—align and improve
(53:56) Where to follow Maarten and explore more
Connect with LaadpasTop10 / Maarten
Website: https://laadpastop10.nl/
LinkedIn: Maarten Hachmang
Hosted by Theo Reichgelt
LinkedIn: Theo Reichgelt
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif & Kroo
Website: MassifKroo.com
For inquiries/sponsoring: email: hello@MassifKroo.com
Welcome to the eMobility Marketing Podcast! Theo sits down with Baycho Georgiev, Chief Marketing Officer of AMPECO, one of the world’s leading EV charging management software providers. Together they explore how AMPECO built a global B2B marketing engine powering charge point operators, utilities, and energy companies across more than 50 markets.
Baycho shares how AMPECO scaled its marketing from zero to a global presence—bridging the gap between brand and demand, connecting marketing with sales, and building thought leadership that feels human. He explains why every touchpoint in B2B marketing is both a brand and demand moment, how internal ambassador programs drive trust, and why “taste” is now the most critical skill in content marketing.
From defining marketing success by revenue, to mastering event strategy at the Intercharge Network Conference, Baycho reveals how to build credibility, unity, and measurable impact in a fast-growing but still maturing e-mobility industry.
If you’re a CPO, EMSP, marketer, or enterprise growth leader, this episode offers a masterclass on scaling B2B marketing with precision, authenticity, and long-term vision.
Chapters
00:00 The Cooperative Spirit of the EV Charging Industry
00:52 Introducing Baycho Georgiev & AMPECO’s Global Role
01:39 Building Marketing From the Ground Up
02:58 Hardware vs. Software Marketing in EV Charging
04:18 Building Trust Through Reliability & Unified Experience
07:08 Balancing Lead Generation, Brand, and Growth Stages
10:52 Brand Building Through Thought Leadership
11:45 Turning Every Team Member Into a Brand Ambassador
14:29 Content Creation: Everyone’s a Marketer Now
16:20 The Rise of Taste as a Core Marketing Skill
19:19 Measuring Success: Attribution, Revenue & Impact
22:19 Aligning Marketing and Sales Under One Goal
23:53 Event Strategy: AMPECO’s Platinum Sponsorship at ICNC
27:41 Why Events Combine Brand and Demand Better Than Any Channel
28:10 Knowing When to Invest in Sponsorships
30:28 How to Evaluate Channel ROI and Get Honest Feedback
32:13 Bringing Benchmarks From Other Industries
34:27 Defining Success Metrics & Staying Flexible
36:40 Lessons From 5 Years of E-Mobility Marketing
38:28 Collaboration and Knowledge Sharing Across Markets
39:30 Why North America Lags Behind Europe in Charging Innovation
40:30 Where to Connect With Baycho Georgiev
Connect with AMPECO
Website: www.ampeco.comLinkedIn: AMPECO
Connect with Baycho Georgiev
LinkedIn: Baycho Georgiev
Hosted by Theo Reichgelt
LinkedIn: Theo Reichgelt
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif & Kroo
Website: MassifKroo.com
For inquiries/sponsoring: email: hello@MassifKroo.com
Welcome to the eMobility Marketing Podcast! Gideon van Dijk—CEO and co-founder of ChargeTrip—sits down with Theo to discuss why range anxiety still shapes EV adoption, how routing technology helps overcome driver insecurities, and why charging point operators (CPOs) must shift from a real estate mindset to a customer-first strategy.
From guiding nearly 3 million EV routes this summer to powering routing behind major ecosystems, ChargeTrip’s data provides a unique view into how drivers choose charging stations and what keeps them loyal. Gideon explains why CPO growth often hits a ceiling, how convenience and trust outweigh price, and why one bad charging experience can lose a customer forever.
If you’re a CPO, EMSP, fleet manager, or mobility marketer, this episode will show you how routing and marketing intersect to drive utilization, build loyalty, and accelerate electrification.
Chapters
00:00 Range Anxiety & the EV Puzzle
01:06 What ChargeTrip Does and Why Routing Matters
03:34 Why CPO Growth Hits a Ceiling
06:19 Shifting From Infrastructure to Consumer Focus
07:46 Removing EV Driver Anxieties
10:16 Why Convenience Outweighs Cost
13:09 How Routing Works in Practice
15:28 Planning vs. Real-World Charging Behavior
17:29 Convenience, Trust & the One-Chance Rule
20:25 Turning Routing Data Into Marketing Strategy
22:33 Cost Optimization for Commercial Fleets
24:39 Right-Sizing Batteries with Data
25:54 Fleet Charging Optimization & OPEX Savings
27:53 Why Visibility Is Essential for CMOs
31:57 Marketing, Visibility & Local Trust
33:29 Retail Partnerships and Loyalty Programs
36:21 Why Retailers Will Enter the CPO Space
39:42 The Business Case for Retail-CPO Partnerships
41:24 The Biggest Mistake CPO Marketers Make
Connect with Nexxt Industry
Website: www.nexxtindustry.com
Linkedin: Nexxt Industry
Facebook: Next Industry
Hosted by Theo Reichgelt
LinkedIn: Theo Reichgelt
Connect with Gideon van Dijk
LinkedIn: Gideon van Dijk
Website: www.chargetrip.com
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif & Kroo
Website: MassifKroo.com
For inquiries/sponsoring: email hello@MassifKroo.com.
Welcome to the eMobility Marketing Podcast! Duncan Forrester—former brand leader at Volvo, Polestar, Volta Trucks, Automobili Pininfarina, and McLaren—joins Theo to share his lessons on building trust, crafting narratives, and steering EV startups through today’s toughest challenges.
From luxury EVs to electrified trucks and hypercars, Duncan has helped launch some of the most recognized names in mobility. His biggest insight: startups win not just by creating great products, but by proving, milestone by milestone, that they can deliver. That’s how you earn the trust of investors, suppliers, media, and customers.
We cover why disruption sometimes backfires, the underused power of air pollution as a marketing message, and how policy certainty shapes mainstream adoption. Duncan also reflects on what he learned building Polestar into Tesla’s first real competitor, how to avoid confusing customers with technical jargon, and why startup life—though difficult—is far more rewarding than working in a legacy OEM.
If you’re a founder, marketer, or mobility professional, this episode is a masterclass in building credibility, simplifying the EV story, and creating brands that resonate with real people.
Chapters
00:00 Building Confidence & Credibility
01:06 Finding a Brand’s True Essence
02:08 Outside-In Communication & Truth to Power
03:11 Shocks Moving from OEMs to Startups
05:10 Competing with Giants & Maintaining Credibility
06:17 Lessons from Launching Polestar
08:29 Convincing Investors: Proving Ability to Deliver
10:12 When Disruption Backfires (Volta Cargo Boxes)
12:56 Air Quality as an Untapped EV Narrative
15:47 Barriers to Mainstream Adoption
18:20 Complexity of Powertrain Choices
20:45 Stop Talking Tech—Speak Customer Language
22:05 First Steps for EV Startups Today
24:06 Policy Certainty & the Role of Government
25:44 Most Proud Marketing Project
27:21 Birthday Party Argument for EVs
29:09 Startup Life Lessons & Personal Ownership
31:32 Why Everyone Should Spend Time in a Startup
Connect with Nexxt Industry
Website: www.nexxtindustry.com
Linkedin: Nexxt Industry
Facebook: Next Industry
Hosted by Theo Reichgelt
LinkedIn: Theo Reichgelt
Connect with Duncan Forrester
LinkedIn: Duncan Forrester
Website: www.rocketeercars.com
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif & Kroo
Website: MassifKroo.com
For inquiries/sponsoring: email hello@MassifKroo.com.
Welcome to the the eMobility Marketing Podcast! Scott Murphy—advertising veteran, founder of Clover, and longtime mobility innovator—joins Theo to share how marketing and brand strategy have shaped his journey from New York City mopeds to Valencia’s cycling utopia.
Scott walks us through his winding path: from OpenAirplane’s universal pilot check rides, to Revel’s 7,000-strong moped fleet, to London’s cargo-bike logistics startup Finn. Now with Clover, he’s betting on a subscription-based e-bike model with unlimited battery swaps—designed to remove cost and convenience barriers keeping people from ditching cars.
We dive into why startups must treat marketing as foundational, not an afterthought; how building a waiting list demonstrates traction; and why Clover invested in branding and investor-facing materials from day one. Scott also shares candid insights on his love-hate relationship with agencies, the role of mission/vision/values in shaping a company, and how early scrappy strategies can set a lasting backbone for growth.
If you’re a founder, marketer, or mobility professional, this conversation is packed with lessons on building demand, aligning brand with product, and scaling ideas in a complex, fast-moving industry.
Chapters
00:00 Why Agencies Waste Money
05:14 From Ads to Aviation
10:36 Launching Clover & E-Bikes
16:28 Building Brand Early
18:04 Traction & Investor Demand
24:21 Mission, Vision, Values
30:24 Startup Marketing Basics
32:53 Owned vs Paid Media
36:18 Pro Support Over DIY
Connect with Nexxt Industry
Website: www.nexxtindustry.com
Linkedin: Nexxt Industry
Facebook: Next Industry
Hosted by Theo Reichgelt
LinkedIn: Theo Reichgelt
Connect with Scott Murphy
LinkedIn: Scott Murphy
Website: rideclover.com
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif & Kroo
Website: MassifKroo.com
For inquiries/sponsoring: email hello@MassifKroo.com.
How important is design and visuality for your eMobility brand? Tune in to the third episode of the eMobility marketing podcast with guests Valentina Franzi and Merel van Buren, the talented graphic designers from Nexxt Industry's design team!
We speak about:
🎙️ Approaching design in the eMobility sector
🎨 The challenges of creating visuals for a fast-growing industry
🌍 Why great design matters for EV brands
From creating recognizable brand identities to designing user-friendly apps and interfaces, we discuss the unique role of visual communication in shaping your company’s image.
Learn about the ultimate mix of marketing strategies for eMobility companies in the second episode of the eMobility Marketing Podcast.
This is the first -special ICNC24- episode of the eMobility Marketing Podcast. Discover the significance of the eMobility ecosystem and the advantages of collaboration to drive industry growth.













