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Author: Mark Carter & Erica Adkins
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Leading FOR Jesus disconnected FROM Jesus makes no sense. Your influence was never meant to run dry—it was meant to flow from the wellspring of God’s Word, not just the latest leadership books.
On the Bible Leadership Podcast, we open God's Word and connect it directly to the real challenges of leading people today. Whether you’re leading in the church, at work, or at home, you’ll discover timeless biblical wisdom, practical insights, and encouragement to lead with both strength and humility.
This podcast is all about one thing: connecting your leadership to the Bible and the Bible to your leadership.
Because the truth is—if your leadership isn’t grounded in God’s Word, it won’t last. But when it is, it can change lives for eternity.
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Feeling stuck in your calling?
The wilderness is where God purifies our ambition, teaches us wisdom, and reminds us that people—not performance—are the real legacy.
In this episode of the Bible Leadership Podcast, Pastor Mark Carter and co-host Erica Adkins unpack how God uses seasons of wilderness to shape a leader’s heart. From learning wisdom to pruning unhealthy relationships, this episode explores the tension between ambition and people, waiting and working, ministry and identity. Through real-life stories and biblical insight, Mark shares how leaders can stay faithful, humble, and people-centered when God presses “pause” on their plans.
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📋 Key Takeaways
Wisdom grows in the wilderness. God uses waiting seasons to train leaders in discernment, humility, and patience.
Don’t confuse surrender with passivity. You can’t rush God’s timeline, but you can grow while you wait—read, learn, and prepare.
“Sow where you want to grow.” Be intentional about planting into the areas where you hope to see long-term fruit—your marriage, friendships, or leadership skills.
People matter more than performance. Ambition can drive good work, but if it eclipses people, it’s become an idol.
Ministry is a stewardship, not an identity. Your worth isn’t tied to what you build—it’s anchored in being a son or daughter of God.
Affirmation from God outweighs applause from people. Maturity means caring more about heaven’s “well done” than earthly approval.
💬 Quotes & Soundbites
“God can move a parked car, but He probably won’t—get behind the wheel and start being faithful where you are.” — Erica Adkins
“True greatness isn’t building monuments to ourselves; it’s becoming the kind of leader God can trust.” — Erica Adkins
“Ministry is a stewardship, not an identity.” — Mark Carter
“Dude, ministry is just too doggone hard and too long to not be with people that you like to be around. Let's just like each other.” – Mark Carter
🕐 Timestamps (Approximate)
00:00 — What the wilderness really is
01:40 — Wisdom vs. waiting: how to discern the difference
05:10 — “Sow where you want to grow”: learning in the wilderness
08:00 — Pruning relationships and planned neglect
13:00 — Ambition vs. people: what really matters in leadership
19:30 — When ambition hurts people (Mark’s personal story)
23:00 — Learning to crave Jesus’ affirmation more than man’s praise
28:00 — When ministry becomes an idol
33:00 — Investing in teachable, responsive people
39:00 — Final encouragement: trading comfort for closeness with Christ
📖 Scripture Tie-Ins
James 1:2–4 – “Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete.”
Philippians 2:3–4 – “Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit… value others above yourselves.”
Psalm 16:6 – “The lines have fallen for me in pleasant places.”
Galatians 6:9 – “Let us not become weary in doing good.”
Matthew 4:1–11 – Jesus’ own wilderness preparation.
🛠️ Next Steps for Listeners
Reflect: Where might God be inviting you to grow in wisdom instead of rushing ahead?
Journal Prompt: “What part of my ambition needs to be surrendered so that people, not projects, remain my priority?”
Pray: Ask God to give you discernment in relationships—to prune what hinders growth and strengthen what builds your character.
Practice: Choose one area this week to “sow where you want to grow.” Take a small, intentional step toward health in that space.
Resource: Revisit Episode 55 (“Wilderness Part 1”) for more context on how God works under the surface during waiting seasons.
The wilderness is the workshop of the soul—where God reshapes your heart for what’s next.
In Part 2 of our Wilderness series, Dr. Mark Carter and Erica Adkins dive deeper into how to lead yourself and others through those confusing, in-between seasons when God’s promise hasn’t yet become reality. From church transitions and burnout to personal loss and leadership wounds, they explore what it means to stay faithful, grounded, and hopeful when everything feels disoriented. This conversation helps leaders recognize what’s “normal” in the wilderness—and how to find God’s hand when you can’t see the way forward.
📋 Key Takeaways
✅ The wilderness is not punishment—it’s preparation. God is forming your faith and character in the in-between.
✅ Great leaders name what’s happening: “This might just be a wilderness.” Awareness helps your people stay calm and grounded.
✅ High communication and clarity protect your people when everything feels unstable.
✅ Every wilderness reveals the limits of your own strength and deepens your dependence on Jesus.
✅ Before you can lead others well, you must first let God lead you through your own disillusionment, fear, and false securities.
💬 Quotes & Soundbites
“Sometimes leadership in the wilderness just means saying, ‘What you’re feeling is normal—God’s still faithful.’”
“Jesus is the only one who will never leave you. Everything else can be taken, but He remains.”
"Is it possible that some of what you've lost, it's not because you're so bad, and it's not because you're just a person nobody wants to be around? Instead, it's because, in his mercy, God is teaching you to cling to only Jesus, because that's really the only rock. That's the anchor, dude."
🛠️ Next Steps for Listeners
Action Step:
Name your wilderness. Ask, “What might God be forming in me right now?” Then communicate clearly and calmly with those you lead—faith always flourishes in clarity.
Reflection Prompt:
Where have you been tempted to panic, retreat, or doubt God’s timing? What would it look like to trust that He’s still leading—even when you can’t see the map?
Recommended Resource:
📝 Read: Emotionally Healthy Relationships by Peter Scazzero — for practical tools on staying grounded and connected through conflict and change.
📺 Watch: Bible Leadership Podcast – Wilderness Part 1
The wilderness isn’t punishment—it’s preparation for the promise.
In this episode, Mark Carter and co-host Erica Adkins dive into what it means to walk through the “wilderness” seasons of life and leadership. These are the in-between spaces—after a promise is given, but before it’s fulfilled. Drawing from Scripture and personal stories, they explore why God leads us through wildernesses and how leaders can develop spiritual resilience during these confusing and refining times.
📋 Key Takeaways
Wilderness is a biblical pattern, not a personal failure. From Moses to Paul to Jesus, God often leads His people through a wilderness before a breakthrough.
God uses the wilderness to shape dependence, obedience, and worship. It’s about valuing His presence more than the promise itself.
Self-leadership is critical. Leaders must recognize they’re in a wilderness season and choose to stay grounded in God’s Word, worship, and truth—even when it feels like nothing is changing.
Not knowing the full lesson is part of the process. Don’t assume you know what God is teaching right away; the deeper work often takes time to surface.
Beware of grumbling and misplaced expectations. Complaining in the wilderness can short-circuit what God is doing—and so can trying to control the outcome.
💬 Quotes & Soundbites
“The wilderness is usually the exact opposite of what we’ve been promised—and it’s where God forms the kind of people who can actually carry the promise.”
“You may not know what God is correcting in your soul right away. That’s part of self-leadership—trusting Him even in the dark.”
“If you’re not going to eat the manna, you’re going to die in that wilderness.”
“Worship God with the suckiness. Jesus is worth the sucky.”
📖 Scripture Tie-Ins
Romans 15:4 – “Everything that was written in the past was written to teach us…”
Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Joshua – Israel’s wilderness journey
Matthew 4:1 – Jesus led into the wilderness
Numbers 16 – Korah’s rebellion and submission to God’s order
Isaiah 55:8–9 – God’s ways and thoughts are higher than ours
Job 1:21 – “The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.”
🛠️ Next Steps for Listeners
Reflect:
What “promise” are you waiting on God to fulfill?
In what ways might your current “wilderness” be shaping your character or your calling?
Journaling Prompts:
“Where am I tempted to grumble instead of worship?”
“How have I been trying to control the ending of my story?”
“What does obedience look like for me in this season?”
Spiritual Practices:
Meditate on Romans 15:4 and journal how God has used past seasons to encourage you.
Take a 24-hour media fast and spend that time in worship and Scripture (especially Exodus 16 or Matthew 4).
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