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What if death isn’t the end? And what if love finds a way to reach us anyway? In this deeply personal episode of Contact, producer and co-host Roslyn Mugford shares her own story. After the passing of her stepdad Jack in January 2024, Roz experienced something she still struggles to fully explain — a vivid dream filled with overwhelming love and what felt like an unspoken apology. Hours later, she learned he had died during the night. What followed were moments that felt less like coincidence and more like connection: signs, synchronicities, and eventually, birds landing gently in her hand […]
What happens to the human story if we get conclusive proof we’re not alone? This week, we’re joined by comedian, actor, writer, and podcaster Michael Ian Black (Wet Hot American Summer, Have I Got News For Your Ears) for a wide-ranging, deeply human conversation about UFOs/UAP, consciousness, and the strange edges of reality. Michael shares a high school “orb/fireball” sighting that still haunts him.. made even stranger by the fact that the other witnesses don’t remember it. From there, we go big: why the “nuts and bolts” don’t interest him as much as what the phenomenon means for humanity, how testimony (especially near-death experiences) shifted his worldview, and why the most […]
Season Two starts exactly how we like it: coming out swinging. Dan and Roz are back to break down the latest in UAP culture and credibility, starting with a military FLIR clip of “orbs” that might be something extraordinary… or might be birds (yes, we’re devastated too). Then we dive into the Nazca mummies saga, where the internet’s favorite “alien bodies” run headfirst into niche expertise: skeletal radiologists and bioanthropologists pointing out bone grafts, amputations, mismatched growth plates, and why “unknown DNA” doesn’t necessarily mean “alien”. From there, we take a sharp left into Pluribus (Vince Gilligan’s unsettling hive-mind thought experiment): a virus delivered through a decoded signal, a […]
In this episode, we’re doing something for the very first time: recording live. No script, no safety net—just an open, free-flowing conversation. We look back on the year behind us, wrestle with the big questions still hanging in the air, and explore where the ongoing conversation around UAPs, disclosure, and human curiosity might be headed.
What unfolds is part celebration, part reflection, and part deep dive. The night is full of unexpected moments, a few technical hiccups, insightful questions from a live audience, and a series of familiar voices who drop in to share their stories, perspectives, and hard-earned wisdom.
Joining us over the course of the show are Vinnie Adams (Disclosure Team), Richard Hatem (of The Mothman Prophecies and Richard Hatem's Paranormal Bookshelf), Dale Mugford (our technical producer!), and a special appearance from the one-and-only Luis Elizondo.
To everyone who joined us live, asked questions, and helped make this first one something special—thank you.
And as always: be curious. The universe is bigger than we know.
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Happy Holidays everyone! Whether you’re snuggling up by the fireplace with your pets, your people or just something warm in a mug… we’ve got the coziest kind of episode for you: a Christmas Eve “best of”, featuring Dan’s favourite moments from Season One. Today’s highlights include: ⏳ Richard Hatem (screenwriter, The Mothman Prophecies) on “time stuff,” precognition, and why questions about time can feel more unsettling than monsters. ️ Maya Cowan (cultural anthropologist) on Indigenous perspectives, UAP in history, and why space exploration can mirror settler colonialism—plus the ethical responsibility that comes with “the final frontier.” Dr. Michelle […]
Join us as we delve into the enigmatic world of UFOs with the legendary Stanton Friedman, in a never-before-seen interview recorded by Roz in 2016, before Friedman’s passing. In the ever-evolving discourse on UFOs and extraterrestrial life, few voices resonate as powerfully as that of Stanton Friedman, a nuclear physicist turned ufologist. With over fifty years of experience and a wealth of knowledge, Friedman challenges the narratives surrounding UFO sightings and government secrecy, shedding light on a subject often dismissed as mere fantasy. He unravels the mysteries of extraterrestrial visits, government secrecy, and the cosmic implications of our place in […]
In August 1955, a quiet farmhouse in Kelly, Kentucky became the center of one of the strangest UFO encounters in history: the Kelly–Hopkinsville Goblins case. Eleven witnesses claimed their home was surrounded all night by small, glowing, goblin-like beings that floated above the ground and seemed immune to shotgun blasts. In this episode, Dan Zetterström talks with Geraldine Sutton-Stith, daughter of lead witness Elmer “Lucky” Sutton, about what really happened that night. Geraldine walks us through the full Kelly–Hopkinsville encounter: the UFO seen dropping into a nearby gully, the “little men” at the windows, the gunfire, the glowing substance found on […]
This week on Contact, we follow the astonishing life of David Pearce, a man whose experiences with the unknown began in childhood and have shadowed him for decades. What starts as a simple night of stargazing in South Wales becomes the first chapter in a lifelong pattern of encounters—structured craft rotating silently in the sky, UFOs chased by RAF jets, and a recurring dream so vivid and terrifying it feels more like a memory than a nightmare. As David grows up, the phenomena grow with him. Strange lights glide through the valley. A house alive with inexplicable activity turns threatening. And then, […]
This week on The Signal, Dan and Roz dive into one of the most fascinating and chaotic news cycles yet. From groundbreaking peer-reviewed science to the strange messages humanity has beamed into the cosmos, this episode is packed. First, the duo unpack Beatriz Villarreal’s astonishing research into atmospheric transients captured in 1950s Palomar Observatory plates—flashes in the sky that appear, vanish, and correlate with nuclear tests and UFO reports at a staggering level of statistical certainty. Are we looking at the first scientific breadcrumbs of watchers in orbit? Then it’s a whirlwind tour through humanity’s own cosmic outreach—from the Voyager […]
Sarah Gamm, ex-UAP Task Force analyst, unveils the secrets of mediumship, sharing her journey of connecting with spirit guides and angels, and the profound impact these connections continue to have on her life. Sarah’s captivating stories challenge conventional beliefs. Her insights will inspire you to look beyond the ordinary and embrace the wonders of the spiritual world. Remember to be curious – the universe is bigger than we know! Episode notes: www.tobehumanshow.com ✉️ Get in touch at: hello@tobehumanshow.com – – – – – – – – – – – – – – ✨ Support the Channel: Patreon (uncut, extended, […]
Embark on an incredible journey with ex-UAP Task Force analyst Sarah Gamm, where the ordinary meets the extraordinary. From her roots as a fourth generation Missouri farmer to unraveling cosmic mysteries in the intelligence community, Sarah’s story is a captivating blend of science and intrigue. Join us as we dive into Sarah’s experiences with the UAP task force and discover the secrets that lie beyond the stars. Remember to be curious – the universe is bigger than we know! Episode notes: www.tobehumanshow.com ✉️ Get in touch at: hello@tobehumanshow.com – – – – – – – – – – – – […]
UK UFO investigator Vinnie Adams of Disclosure Team takes us deep into the Colombian highlands—where a centuries-old mystery still burns across the night sky. In this Contact episode, Vinnie recounts his journey to La Peña de Juaica, a mountain long associated with ancestral spirits, portals, and strange plasma-like lights witnessed for generations. What began as an Instagram message led to a full-scale field investigation and the capture of rare 4K footage of the phenomenon—an experience that left Vinnie changed, humbled, and still searching for answers. Through history, myth, and modern research, this is a story of wonder, persistence, and what it means to truly encounter the unknown. […]
Marine ecologist and acoustic researcher Dr. Michelle Fournet takes us into the mysterious world of whale communication and one of the oldest cultures on Earth. We dive into the complexities of the ‘whup’ call, human impact on the environment, whale culture, and the role of curiosity in scientific discovery. We reflect on what whales – an intelligent, non-human species that communicate through intricate song – might teach us about connection, cooperation, and how we might one day speak to a Non-Human Intelligence after First Contact. Remember to be curious – the universe is bigger than we know! If you’d like […]
As Halloween approaches, Dan & Roz dive into an packed episode of The Signal where they discuss the life & legacy of Jane Goodall, and the latest developments in the UAP / UFO world. They explore what Goodall’s work to uncover the societal hierarchies of chimpanzees can teach us about first contact, unpack Dylan Boland’s explosive new testimony on Weaponized, revisit reports of mysterious drones over Denmark, and an all new ‘UFO or UF-no?!’ Remember to be curious – the universe is bigger than we know! If you’d like to share an experience you’ve had or send in a listener […]
In the first episode of CONTACT, host Dan Zetterström steps from behind the mic to share his own story of high strangeness – a night in South Wales, UK that forever changed the course of his life. What began as a skywatch under the stars became something else entirely: strange formations of owls, a zigzagging light that defied physics, and a series of synchronicities that, to this day, refuse to end. This is a story of initiation, of curiosity blossoming into calling, and a reminder that when you look into the abyss, sometimes the abyss looks back. Remember to be […]
Dan sits down with cultural anthropologist, PhD candidate, and graduate instructor, Maya Cowan, who’s carving new ground by studying UAPs through the lens of human culture, language, and ethics. From her family’s history with paranormal experiences to teaching one of the first university courses on UAP, Maya explores what it means to decode the unknown – whether it’s ancient DNA, the Peruvian mummies, or the star people of Indigenous traditions. Together, they dive into the ethics of studying the unexplained, the power of stigma in academia, how politics impacts knowledge, and why our future may depend on cultivating empathy and […]
In this packed episode of What It Means to Be Human, Dan & Roz debrief the wild ride that was the latest U.S. Congressional UAP hearing – featuring fiery testimony, named names, and the profound experiences of whistleblowers like Dylan Borland. They explore NASA’s latest findings on Mars and ponder what actually counts as ‘life’? Plus, a look at recent developments in Brazil and Canada, and a new dose of UFO or UF-No – can you solve it before we do? Remember to be curious – the universe is bigger than we know! Episode notes: www.tobehumanshow.com ✉️ Get in touch […]
Screenwriter and author Richard Hatem (The Mothman Prophecies, Titans) returns for Part 2 of our conversation—diving even deeper into the mysteries of time, free will, and the strange intelligence behind paranormal encounters. We explore John Keel’s theories of “time cycles,” why precognition unsettles our notions of autonomy, and how different cultures interpret UFOs as everything from ancestor spirits to cosmic visitors. Richard also reflects on government secrecy, the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film, and the ways media and advertising shape belief. Along the way, he shares creative advice for writers, book recommendations, and his vision of how simple human connection might be […]
Join Dan Zetterstrom as he dives into the world of the paranormal with writer Richard Hatem, exploring Richard’s journey through mediums (TV, movies) to a podcaster with a passion for the supernatural. Discover the stories behind Richard’s work, including his experiences writing the Mothman Prophecies movie, and his podcast, Richard Hatem’s Paranormal Bookshelf. This episode offers a fascinating look at the intersection of creativity, mystery, and the human experience. Tune in for an engaging discussion that challenges our understanding of reality and the unknown. Part 1 of 2.
Remember to be curious, the universe is bigger than we know.
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Chapters:
00:45 – Introduction to Richard Hatem
02:34 – Podcasting Journey
05:27 – Difference Between Podcasting and TV/Movie Writing
10:32 – Paranormal Origin Story
14:19 – The Mothman Prophecies
17:35 – Visiting Point Pleasant
20:25 – John Keel’s Humor and Influence
29:05 – The Nature of Paranormal Phenomena
33:05 – Extraterrestrial Hypothesis
39:42 – The Search for Truth in the Paranormal
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In the very first episode of What It Means to Be Human, hosts Dan Zetterström and Roslyn Mugford set the stage for a podcast that explores UFOs, high strangeness, and the mysteries of consciousness with curiosity and compassion. From personal stories of interviewing Stanton Friedman and filming Phenomenology in Colombia, to reflections on congressional hearings, whistleblower protection, Canada’s own Sky Canada project, and the state of UGOlogy around the world, Dan and Roz dig into why this moment in history matters.
Along the way they introduce ‘UFO or UFNO’, recap the modern day UFO timeline since 2017, and preview upcoming guests including writer Richard Hatem (The Mothman Prophecies) and whale biologist Dr. Michelle Fournet. Part news roundup, part cosmic campfire, The Signal offers both skeptical inquiry and open wonder about what connects us all.
Remember to be curious, the universe is bigger than we know.
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Chapters
(00:00:00) - Introduction to the Show & Hosts(00:02:51) - Exploring UFOs & Consciousness(00:05:49) - Indigenous Perspectives & Experiences(00:08:45) - Belief Spectrum in UFO Phenomena(00:11:37) - Show Structure & Episode Types(00:14:41) - UAP Congressional Hearings Overview(00:17:47) - Whistleblower Protection & Legislation(00:20:55) - International Perspectives on UAPs(00:23:25) - Skinwalker Ranch Updates & Findings(00:26:38) - Future of UAP Investigations and Community Engagement







