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Author: Randa Abdel-Fattah and Sara Saleh

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2 Pals & a Pod is where 2 Palestinian women talk politics - with a side of sass.

Hosted by writer-activists Dr Randa Abdel-Fattah and Sara Saleh, each episode we sit down with thinkers, artists, advocates, and organisers who refuse to be polite in the face of genocide and in a world gaslighting us into silence. We say the unsayable, with plenty of receipts, rage, and real tenderness, and we hope these conversations will educate, inspire, and mobilise communities towards justice and liberation.

Weekly episode drops on MONDAY.

We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of this land, the Darug people, and pay our respects to their Elders past and present. We honour their continuing connection to Country, waters, and culture.

All episodes of this podcast were recorded on their ancestral lands.

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New Episode Out Now: 2 Pals & a Pod x Noor Azizah This week on 2 Pals & a Pod, we’re honoured to have sat down with Noor Azizah, Rohingya refugee, fierce human rights advocate, educator, and changemaker.From fleeing brutality and statelessness as a child to co-founding the Rohingya Maìyafuìnor Collaborative Network, Noor has dedicated her life to uplifting Rohingya women and survivors, tackling gender-based violence, education barriers, and injustice at home and on the world stage.On this episode we talk the gendered impacts of war and displacement, the importance of Rohingya women’s leadership, and what meaningful solidarity looks like in the fight for human rights.
This week on 2pals and a pod, Randa Abdel-Fattah and Sara Saleh are joined by the brilliant Dr. Lina Koleilat—ethnographer, historian, and Secretary of the Board at the Institute of Postcolonial Studies (IPCS). Lina brings a unique perspective to the table, bridging the worlds of Middle Eastern politics and East Asian studies. We sit down to discuss the reality and vital importance of cross-cultural solidarity. Lina opens up about her fascinating fieldwork in South Korea, drawing powerful parallels between different movements for self-determination and the lessons we can learn from observing how other communities handle displacement, borders, and resistance. Lina also unpacks the power of the student university encampments, sharing vital lessons on grassroots organizing, maintaining momentum, and how true solidarity is built from the ground up.
Join us on 2 Pals & a Pod as we welcome two incredible guests: award-winning poet Hasib Hourani, and celebrated writer and medical doctor Jumaana Abdu! 🎙️ In this powerful episode, we dive into the worlds of literature, identity, and activism, with stories and insights on: Writing as resistance✍️ The intersections of Palestinian identity, creativity, and community 🇵🇸 Poetry, storytelling, and the power of language to communicate Challenges and triumphs in the literary space,Whether you’re passionate about literature, social justice, or creative expression, this episode is for you! Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell to stay up to date with future podcasts. Follow our guests: Hasib Hourani: @hellohourani Jumaana Abdu: @jumaanaabdu
In this week’s episode of 2 Pals & A Pod, we sit down with Prof. Chelsea Watego, a fierce intellect whose wisdom and truth-telling cut right to the heart of what it means to live, resist, and thrive as a Black person in so-called Australia. From institutional racism to radical joy, this convo is one you don’t want to miss. Don’t miss this engaging chat with one of Australia’s most influential thinkers!
Despite being described as “the world’s worst humanitarian crisis” Sudan has struggled to grab global attention - it has been silenced, invisiblised - but not forgotten. Those of us in the Palestine liberation movement know that our struggles are connected and that justice is indivisible. We have a duty to learn and act.So we are honoured to have the powerhouse Yassmin Abdel-Magied on our show for an emergency 101/primer on the situation in Sudan and how we can help. Yassmin Abdel-Magied is a Sudanese Australian writer, recovering mechanical engineer and award-winning social advocate who writes and speaks on politics, society, culture and technology.
This week on 2 Pals & a Pod, we sit down with Noura Mansour - political analyst, National Director at Democracy in Colour, and mother of two.Join us as we explore: • life under the daily realities of occupation and erasure • what it means to grow up in ’48 Palestine ‘48 • and what global solidarity must reckon with nowWatch the full convo on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts.Big thanks to our behind-the-scenes team: 🎥 Videographer: Camelia Gusmardy 🎨 Visuals/Socials: Fouad Malti
🎙️ This week on 2 Pals & a Pod, we sit down with Rawan Arraf — lawyer, advocate, and founder of the Australian Centre for International Justice.We unpack one of the most contentious questions right now: If Gaza is the test, has international law already failed?Join us as we explore: • how advocacy and law converge in the fight for Palestine • what real accountability could look like • and where global solidarity goes from hereWatch the full convo on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts.Big thanks to our behind-the-scenes team:🎥 Videographer: Camelia Gusmardy🎨 Visuals/Socials: Fouad Malti
🎙️ Episode 5 of 2 Pals & a Pod is out now! We’re joined by the inimitable Amani Haydar, writer, artist, and advocate, for a powerful conversation on feminist praxis in a time of genocide. Together, we explore the links between state-sanctioned and interpersonal violence, asking: how can a race-critical, anti-imperialist, anti-colonial feminism help us make sense of - and resist - the violences we’re living through? Big thanks to our behind-the-scenes dream team: 🎥 Videographer: Camelia Gusmardy 🎨 Visuals/Socials: Fouad Malti
The next of 2 Pals & a Pod with the extraordinary Dr. Samah Jabr has just dropped! A Palestinian psychiatrist, writer, and trailblazer in liberation psychology, Dr. Jabr unpacks the psychological toll of occupation, intergenerational trauma, and the sumud of Palestinians.This is a conversation you need to hear!Watch the full convo on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. And be sure to follow Dr Jabr's important work and purchase her first English-language book, Radiance in Pain and Resilience.Big thanks to our behind-the-scenes dream team:Videographer: Camelia GusmardyVisuals/Socials: Fouad Malti
“Nothing could honestly ever prepare you.”The third episode of 2 Pals & a Pod with Dr Bushra Othman is out now. Dr Othman is the first Palestinian-'Australian' woman doctor to go to Gaza, and recently returned from her third medical mission there. On this episode, Dr Othman talks about starvation as a deliberate strategy to fracture communities, the gendered impact of genocidal violence, the responsibilities of medical professionals in a time of genocide, and how she used instant coffee packets to help a 13 year old boy with his physio sessions. Big thanks to our behind-the-scenes team:🎥 Videographer: Camelia Gusmardy🎨 Visuals/Socials: Fouad Malti
The second episode of 2 Pals & a Pod features special guest Dr Lana Tatour, a ‘48 Palestinian, academic, writer, and relentless critic of settler colonialism. Tune in as we discuss Lana’s new co-edited volume Race and the Question of Palestine, racism and Facebook parenting groups in Israeli society, and what it means to be a ‘48 Palestinian interpreting events in Gaza across Arabic and Hebrew. Big thanks to our behind-the-scenes dream team: 🎥 Videographer: Camelia Gusmardy 🎨 Visuals/Socials: Fouad Malti
Welcome to the very first episode of 2 Pals & a Pod! We’re joined by Tan Safi, Gadigal-born, award-winning filmmaker, writer, and member of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla crew aboard the Handala. Tan and fellow crew members were abducted in international waters by Israeli authorities in July this year, as they attempted to bring aid into Gaza and break the illegal blockade.Tune in as we explore Tan’s journey, what activism means in everyday life, who carries its weight, and how we can contribute in meaningful ways. Big thanks to our behind-the-scenes dream team: 🎥 Videographer: Camelia Gusmardy 🎨 Visuals/Socials: Fouad Malti
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