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Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson are professional marathoners chasing fast times and big goals on the roads. Training out of Flagstaff, Arizona, they’ve got plenty of stories from the grind of big mileage, the chaos of race travel, the highs and lows of racing on the world stage and the random stuff that happens between workouts. With a passion for storytelling, running culture, and building community, Rory and Jacob bring listeners behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. Training talk with a few detours.
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Today we sit down with Jess Tonn McClain who was the top American at the 2025 Boston Marathon, 8th place at the 2025 World Championships Marathon, 4th place at the 2024 Olympic Trials Marathon. She will be on the start line with Jacob & Rory at the 2026 Boston Marathon as well.We chat about her Boston Marathon specific training, about stepping away from pro running, and then finding her groove in the marathon post covid. She shares how she enjoys life outside of training and keeps professional running fun.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteSandyBoy Productions
If you enjoy this podcast - please give us a follow and leave a review - It helps the show a ton! Check out our links below.In this episode of the Out and Back Podcast, Jacob and Rory discuss their current training experiences, including Jacob's time in Barcelona where he is pacing for an American record attempt, while Rory races the Mesa Half Marathon. They also share insights from their recent podcast with Brady Homer, updates on upcoming races, and the importance of joining Sandy Boy Productions. The conversation touches on marathon myths, the effectiveness of treadmill workouts, and how to manage health and illness during training. They wrap up with a discussion on listener engagement and future guests.Need a coach? Check out our links below:Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteSandyBoy Productions
Check out our links below!We welcomed back our first-ever returning guest, Brady Holmer, for a wide-ranging conversation on performance, recovery, and the details that actually move the needle.We cover everything from Diet Coke and caffeine’s role in performance to what truly matters for sleep and recovery—including optimal sleep routines, practical sleep hygiene tips, and simple adjustments athletes can make right away. Brady breaks down key recovery and readiness metrics like HRV, respiratory rate, and resting heart rate, and how to interpret them in real training contexts.We also dive into lactate clearance, training adaptations, and supplement strategies, including when (and when not) to use ketones, sodium bicarbonate, and Nomio. Throughout the episode, we focus on science-backed, practical approaches to optimizing endurance performance without overcomplicating the process.If you’re interested in training smarter, recovering better, and understanding the “why” behind the data, this one’s for you.Brady's XJoin our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
Please give the podcast a follow, a 5 star review, and share with a friend with you enjoyed today's episde. Today Rory and Jacob break down the Boston Marathon elite fields, give an update on their training, and answer some loyal listener questions.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
Eric's InstagramEric's YoutubeJoin our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteSummaryIn this episode, Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson sit down with Eric Floberg, a unique figure in the running community known for his engaging YouTube content and inspiring journey in the sport. They discuss Eric's late start in running, his experiences with marathons, the intersection of running and business, and the importance of family in his life. The conversation also touches on Eric's approach to content creation, his recent philanthropic efforts through running, and his training focus as he prepares for upcoming races, including the Boston Marathon.
In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, host Jacob Thomson and co-host Chris Striegel welcome elite 800-meter runner Josh Hoey. They discuss Josh's recent world record in the 600 meters, his training methods, and the importance of speed endurance. Josh shares insights into his upcoming races, adjustments to his training schedule, and the significance of altitude training in Flagstaff. The conversation also touches on the evolution of racing strategies in the 800 meters, the impact of technology on training, and advice for aspiring young athletes.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteIn this episode of the Out and Back podcast, Rory Linkletter shares his experience of breaking the Canadian half marathon record. He discusses the immediate aftermath of the race, including drug testing and media obligations, and reflects on the race dynamics, training strategies, and the importance of competition. Rory emphasizes the significance of community support in running and shares his future goals and plans for upcoming races. The conversation highlights the impact of young athletes in the sport and the importance of maintaining a healthy mindset in training and competition.
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Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteWe're kicking off 2026 with a special New Year's Day episode featuring guest host John Gay from the Shakeout Podcast for a conversation with recently crowned The Marathon Project champion JP Flavin, fresh off his win and new lifetime best of 2:09:18. The pros-only event was held in Chandler, Arizona last week.Flavin, a member of the Michigan-based Brooks Hansons Original Distance Project team, discusses his build up for his most recent event and his year-over-year progression in the marathon, with a personal best in each of his last five showings. In addition, JP talks about his decision to move up to the event right out of university, and whether other young distance runners should consider making the jump earlier in their careers. The crew also talks training, fuelling and marathon peaking, while laying out the biggest storylines heading into the new year.Give JP Flavin a follow @JFlavinP
Join Jacob, Rory, and Chris as they dive into a good ole banter style episode that feels like a run with friends. From debating the most overrated running trends to sharing outrageous hot takes, this episode is packed with laughs and unexpected insights. Don't miss out on the fun—tune in and let us know if you agree with our spicy opinions! Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
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If you enjoyed this episode - please give us a review and follow!Today we discuss the upcoming California International Marathon (CIM), which is also the USATF Marathon Championships. Go through Jacob's build up, race strategy, and expectations for the competition. We delve into tapering, carb loading, and fueling strategies. We also talk about the rest of the competitive field at CIM. The conversation highlights the excitement surrounding marathon racing and the camaraderie among athletes as they prepare for race day.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a follow and share it with a friend!Mica Rivera Wood discusses balancing being a creator and an elite runner, her decision to transition from track to marathon running. She reflects on her initial fears and the excitement she feels about taking on this new challenge. Mica shares her thoughts on her potential in both track and marathon running, emphasizing the joy of embracing new experiences in her athletic journey.The Woodsrun InstagramMica's YoutubeJoin our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
Please give us a follow at the links below and share with a friend. Today we chat with Brady Holmer. This was a very science heavy episode. We cover Vo2 Max training in marathons, how to increase volume, marathon fueling, heat training for performance, Brady's personal goals for the upcoming CIM race and more.Follow Brady:SubstackTwitterJoin our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
Please give us a follow, share this episode with a friend, and check out our socials!Join the nearly 100k subs Jake has on YouTube here:Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteToday are joined by Jake Bearclough, better know as Ran to Japan. We explore the cultural differences in running training between Japanese and American runners, find our why Japan is so good at the marathon, highlight the differences in training. We also dive into the world of Running Youtube and hear a very cool story about Jake moving from the UK to the US to Japan to chase his running dreams.
Please do us a massive favor and like, rate, and share the podcast if you enjoy it!Biya is a former teammate and training partner of both Jacob and Rory. We got to chat with Biya about his new coaching set up with Ian Carter and the workouts that lead to his 2:06 Marathon in Valencia last year. We touch on his fueling and race strategies. We chat about the competition in New York City Marathon and what Biya has done to prepare for the course.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s Website
Give us a follow and join us on social media if you enjoyed today's episode.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteToday on the Out and Back podcast, we sat down with professional marathon runner Reed Fischer. We talked about Reed bouncing off the World Championships to race the New York City Marathon. We covered how he is preparing for multiple marathons in a season, his experience at the World Championships, and his preparation for the upcoming New York City Marathon. We dove into the evolution of the Tin Man Elite team and the challenges of professional running. Reed shares insights on the competitive landscape of marathon running and his personal goals for the future.
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Be sure to give us a rating and leave a comment!Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s StravaRory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s Youtube Jacob’s WebsiteWe discuss the upcoming Chicago Marathon, focusing on Rory's training, Canadian record attempts, and the competitive landscape of elite marathon running. They delve into the importance of consistency in training, pre-race preparations, and the dynamics of race day. Chicago Marathon Trivia Questions. The conversation also touches on the elite fields for both men and women, highlighting key athletes and their potential performances. And lastly, we offer some tips for runners participating in the event."I did the highest mileage build of my career.""I felt pretty locked into 445 pace."Chapters00:00 Race Week Anticipation03:07 Training Insights and Record Attempts05:53 The Importance of Mental Preparation08:56 Race Week Logistics and Media Obligations12:09 The Competitive Landscape of the Chicago Marathon14:55 Interactions with Fellow Athletes17:51 Marathon Progression and Personal Growth26:04 The Evolution of a Marathoner29:12 Preparing for the Chicago Marathon31:37 Trivia and Insights on the Chicago Marathon37:20 Analyzing the Men's Field46:01 Final Thoughts and Race Day Tips
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