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Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts

Author: Tony Taylor

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Leaders Lead Even When It Hurts is a show about the real moments that shape us.

Every week Tony Taylor sits with people who have lived through something hard and came out changed. Caregivers, creators, entrepreneurs, survivors. People in the messy middle who kept going even when it hurt.

These conversations are raw, honest, and unscripted. We talk about the moments that broke you open, the choices that changed everything, and the strength you didn’t know you had.

If you’re carrying a lot and trying to stay true to yourself while you build
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Troy Rasband joined me for On The Record to talk about why he decided to run for Congress in Washington's 3rd Congressional District and the issues driving his campaign.We talked about his story, what shaped his political views, the challenges facing working families, healthcare, immigration, government accountability, the transgender community, and what he believes needs to change in Washington, D.C.This is a long-form conversation designed to give voters an opportunity to hear directly from the candidate, beyond campaign ads, social media posts, and sound bites.On The Record doesn't tell you who to vote for. The goal is simple: ask the questions, give candidates room to answer, and let voters decide for themselves.Learn more about Troy Rasband:Troy Rasband for Congress#TroyRasband #WA03 #OnTheRecord #WashingtonPolitics #Election2026 #Congress #CandidateInterview #SouthwestWashington
I sat down with Washington State Rep candidate Kevin Moynihan for a candid talk about his platform and his vision for our state.We step away from the campaign trail to have a real, unscripted interview. This conversation is not a polished sound bite or a press release, but a chance to hear directly from him about the topics that matter most to voters. We talk about his background, the challenges he sees in our district, and the specific insights he has gained while running for office.Whether you are familiar with his work or just discovering his story, this podcast conversation offers a clear look at the person behind the campaign. We move past the surface level to talk about what he believes, why he makes the decisions he does, and what he sees on the horizon for local politics. This political interview is designed to help you get a better sense of who you are voting for this year.Subscribe to the Leaders Lead Podcast for weekly long-form discussions, and let me know in the comments who you want to see on the show next.
I sat down with Thurston County Commissioner Rachel Grant for a powerful and deeply human conversation about recovery, redemption, second chances, and public service.Rachel shared her story of becoming a young mother, losing her son’s father, struggling with drug use, being arrested, going through Thurston County Drug Court, rebuilding her life, and eventually becoming a Thurston County Commissioner.This conversation is not just about politics. It is about the human behind the title.We talked about addiction, recovery, motherhood, grief, foster care, behavioral health, housing, workforce, mentorship, public service, and what it means to turn lived experience into service.Rachel also shared the story of how she was encouraged to run for commissioner, what she has learned in the role, and why she believes people who have been impacted by systems need to be part of the decisions that shape those systems.If you live in Olympia, Lacey, Tumwater, Yelm, Tenino, Rochester, Rainier, Bucoda, or anywhere in Thurston County, I believe this is a conversation worth hearing.
Thinking about applying for the open seat on the Lacey City Council, or just curious what the job actually involves?Apply for the open Lacey City Council position here:https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/b3d4ed0cea6e430b8d41fbd932eb39baIn this special I’m Asking for a Friend edition of On The Record, Tony Taylor sits down with Lacey City Councilmember Maren Turner for a candid conversation about what serving on the council really looks like.Turner breaks down the time commitment, preparation, committee work, relationships between councilmembers, how much influence one person actually has, and why you don’t need to walk into the job as an expert. She also explains why asking questions, doing your homework, and learning how to work with people who see things differently are essential to being effective. They also get into a question a lot of people quietly wonder about:Do you have to “go along to get along” to get things done?Turner explains how disagreements are worked through before votes happen and why being the loudest person in the room does not necessarily make someone the most effective. She also discusses what she hopes to see in whoever fills the vacant seat and why she believes the council should focus on choosing the person who is best for Lacey. At the time of the interview, Turner said the city had received at least 16 applications, with the application deadline set for September 18. If you’re considering applying, this conversation gives you a much clearer picture of what you’d actually be signing up for.
Christopher L. Pettit is running for Thurston Public Utility District Commissioner, District 3.Pettit has spent more than 20 years working in water and environmental resource management, law, public policy, infrastructure financing, and government. But in this On the Record™ conversation, we go beyond the résumé.We talk about the experiences that shaped him, why he built a career in public service, why he decided to run for office, and what he believes leadership should look like when difficult decisions have to be made.Pettit discusses water affordability, environmental protection, climate resilience, utility rates, accountability, regional water management, and why he believes access to safe and reliable drinking water is foundational to a functioning community.We also get into politics.Pettit explains his political background, the organizations and elected officials supporting his campaign, and why he believes a PUD commissioner must be able to represent people with very different political viewpoints.And when the conversation turns to leadership, Pettit is direct: leaders have to be willing to make difficult decisions, stand on their values, and accept that not everyone will agree with them.Most importantly, we break down a question many voters may have never considered:What does a PUD commissioner actually have the power to do, and why should voters care who holds that seat?Pettit explains how commissioners influence rates, utility policy, accountability, infrastructure, affordability, and the long-term management of water resources.Then, as always on On the Record™, the candidate gets the last word.No sound bites. No campaign commercial. A long-form conversation so voters can hear directly from the person asking for their vote.
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