That's Where I'm At

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura shares her personal journey of healing after divorcing a narcissist. She explains the psychological and chemical roots of trauma bonding, the confusing emotions survivors face, and the challenges of breaking free. Laura offers practical steps for recovery, including going no contact, journaling, rebuilding identity, seeking support, and trauma-informed therapy. She emphasizes self-compassion and patience, reassuring listeners that healing is possible and encouraging them to reclaim their lives. Laura closes by inviting listeners to join her supportive community and reminding them they are not alone in their recovery.   Key Topics & Timestamps Purpose of the Podcast & Sharing Stories (00:00:31) Emphasizes the importance of sharing difficult stories for collective healing, especially for women. Trigger Warning (00:01:13) Brief warning about potentially triggering content in the episode. Understanding Trauma Bonding (00:01:21) Laura describes her conflicting feelings after leaving her marriage and introduces the concept of trauma bonding. Personal Experience with Trauma Bond (00:02:31) Shares her emotional struggle post-divorce and the confusion of loving and hating her abuser. Intermittent Reinforcement & Abuse Dynamics (00:03:30) Explains how abusers use intermittent reinforcement to keep victims attached and feeling small. Shame and Staying Too Long (00:05:59) Discusses the shame survivors feel for staying and the psychological manipulation that keeps them in abusive relationships. Chemical Basis of Trauma Bond (00:06:59) Explains the brain chemistry behind trauma bonds and the need to rebuild positive chemicals after leaving. The Good Memory Trap (00:08:14) Warns against idealizing isolated good moments in abusive relationships and describes ongoing hypervigilance. Addiction to Hope & Beginning Healing (00:09:23) Clarifies that survivors are addicted to hope, not the abuser, and introduces the first healing steps. No Contact Rule (00:10:41) Stresses the importance of going no contact to break the trauma bond and protect oneself from manipulation. Practical Steps for No Contact (00:11:41) Shares her personal approach to no contact, including blocking on social media and handling mutual friends. No Contact in Co-Parenting & Boundaries (00:12:46) Advises on maintaining boundaries and low contact when full no contact isn't possible, especially with children. No Contact is Survival, Not Cruelty (00:13:49) Explains why staying friends with a narcissist is dangerous and reinforces that no contact is about survival. Journaling for Clarity (00:14:59) Recommends journaling to document abuse, validate experiences, and avoid romanticizing the past. Reconnecting with Identity & Dreams (00:16:02) Encourages rediscovering passions and rebuilding identity lost during the abusive relationship. Building a Support System (00:18:09) Highlights the importance of finding supportive communities and professionals for healing. Trauma-Informed Therapy & Somatic Healing (00:19:19) Advocates for trauma-informed therapy and somatic practices to heal both mind and body. Self-Compassion & Patience in Healing (00:20:44) Emphasizes self-kindness, patience, and the gradual nature of recovery from abuse. Breaking the Inner Voice of the Narcissist (00:22:05) Describes the process of reclaiming one's own thoughts and voice after leaving abuse. Encouragement & Final Thoughts (00:23:10) Offers reassurance about the healing journey, normalizes setbacks, and encourages persistence.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode 'I also didn't know until I started to understand some things that you can actually have two opposing thoughts. You can actually hate somebody and love somebody at the same time.' 'So remember that you weren't addicted to him. You were addicted to the hope of the person he pretended to be.' 'No contact is not cruelty. It is survival.' 'You hating him and missing him at the same time does not make you weak. It makes you human.' 'The confusion is not a sign that you made a mistake leaving. It's a sign of how deep the bond went.'   RESOURCES: GRAB THE TRAUMA BOND ACTION GUIDE: https://laurarichpodcast.systeme.io/trauma-bond COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517   "You weren't addicted to the person—you were holding on to the hope. Healing begins when you choose yourself over that illusion."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Coach NiaRenee, a certified narcissistic abuse recovery coach, author, and advocate dedicated to helping survivors rebuild their lives after emotional and psychological abuse. As the founder of How to Love a Battered Woman LLC and creator of the Battered Hearts Rising methodology, NiaRenee combines professional expertise with lived experience to guide survivors through deep healing, self-reconnection, and the restoration of self-trust after toxic relationships. Known as the Empathy Powerhouse, NiaRenee is passionate about amplifying the voices of survivors and creating spaces where healing, clarity, and empowerment are possible. Her work goes beyond leaving abusive dynamics—she helps individuals untangle trauma bonds, strengthen boundaries, and rebuild their identity so they can form relationships rooted in safety, respect, and emotional security. In this powerful conversation, NiaRenee shares her journey of surviving both childhood and adult abuse, and how those experiences shaped her mission today. She and Laura explore the challenges of recognizing abuse, breaking trauma bonds, and unlearning harmful patterns influenced by societal and media narratives. Together, they emphasize the importance of self-awareness, community, and support in the healing process. This episode offers hope, practical tools, and encouragement for anyone on the path to reclaiming their voice, identity, and power.   Key Topics & Timestamps Coach NiaRenee's Background & Advocacy (00:02:20) NiaRenee discusses her advocacy work, credentials, and motivation for helping survivors. Personal Journey into Coaching (00:03:42) NiaRenee shares how her personal experiences with abuse led her to coaching and developing her methodology. Rebuilding Self-Relationship After Abuse (00:05:44) Discussion on the importance of repairing the relationship with oneself after abusive relationships. Leaving the Last Abusive Relationship (00:06:36) NiaRenee talks about leaving her last abusive relationship in 2019 and recognizing unhealthy patterns. Childhood Abuse & Family Dynamics (00:07:02) NiaRenee reveals her childhood sexual abuse and growing up with a narcissistic mother, and how it shaped her. Normalization & Glamourization of Abuse in Media (00:11:40) They discuss how media normalizes and glamorizes domestic violence, making it harder to recognize abuse. Love Bombing & Societal Conditioning (00:13:15) Exploration of love bombing, societal messages about romance, and the impact on boundaries. Learning Healthy Love & Setting Boundaries (00:15:01) NiaRenee describes learning what healthy love looks like through friendships and setting new standards. Unlearning Patterns & Trauma Bonding (00:16:38) The process of unlearning old patterns, trauma bonding, and the importance of self-awareness. Losing Friendships During Healing (00:19:32) NiaRenee and Laura discuss losing friendships that mirrored abusive patterns during their healing journeys. Individual Healing Journeys & Coping Strategies (00:22:04) They share personal healing methods, emphasizing that everyone's journey is unique. Finding and Using Your Voice (00:24:05) Both discuss how speaking out, crying, and sharing their stories helped reclaim their voices. Starting Social Media Advocacy (00:25:03) NiaRenee explains how she began sharing her story on TikTok and the impact of her skits. Balancing Content Creation with Heavy Topics (00:27:04) Challenges of creating content and supporting others during overwhelming world events. Coping with Triggers from Current Events (00:28:25) NiaRenee shares how she manages triggers from the Epstein files and the importance of self-care. Supporting Survivors & Using Your Platform (00:32:21) The importance of amplifying survivor voices and using platforms for advocacy. Calling Out Societal & Political Narcissistic Abuse (00:34:44) Discussion on recognizing narcissistic abuse in political and societal contexts. Recognizing Psychological Abuse (00:37:09) Highlighting the prevalence of psychological abuse and its portrayal in media. Upcoming Movie "My Narcissist" (00:37:41) NiaRenee talks about her role in the upcoming movie that depicts psychological and emotional abuse. Breaking the Cycle & Family Healing (00:43:03) Laura and NiaRenee discuss breaking generational cycles, family healing, and accountability.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode NiaRenee, 'I just want to show other people that there is life after abuse.' NiaRenee, 'Those relationships felt familiar, so I thought I was supposed to stay in them because that's just how relationships are.' NiaRenee, 'I think it's deeper than us loving ourselves, because how do we love ourselves if we've never been shown how to be properly loved?' NiaRenee, 'The more you're self-aware, the more you pay attention to what your body is telling you, the more you realize that you trust yourself to make decisions.' NiaRenee, 'I cried for all the times that I couldn't cry, and I started talking for all the times that I couldn't talk back. I started to take my voice back.'   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517   FOLLOW NIARENEE: Your website link: www.coachNiaReneerenee.com Instagram: instagram.com/coachNiaReneerenee Movie Trailer "I Love You My Narcissist": https://ilymn.film/   "Healing isn't just about leaving the abuse—it's about learning to trust yourself again and choosing a different life."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura welcomes Trish Lynn, a life coach and identity recalibration mentor who helps women rebuild their internal operating system after trauma, toxic dynamics, and years of self-silencing. After leaving a 16-year narcissistic relationship, Trish rebuilt her voice, regulated her nervous system, and redefined her identity from the inside out. Today, she guides women in healing their self-concept, reclaiming their voices, and becoming the version of themselves who can be seen, heard, and fully expressed without collapsing. In this powerful conversation, Laura and Trish discuss the journey from victimhood to empowerment, exploring the challenges of rebuilding self-esteem, setting boundaries, and rediscovering identity after leaving toxic relationships. As a single mom and survivor of narcissistic abuse, Trish shares personal insights about healing, parenting, and overcoming self-doubt, while offering practical guidance for women ready to reclaim their confidence and rebuild their lives. The episode highlights the importance of self-care, nervous system healing, community, and authenticity in the recovery process, offering hope and actionable insights for listeners on their own path to healing and empowerment.   Key Topics & Timestamps Guest Introduction: Trish Lynn (00:01:23) Trish's background as a single mom, survivor, and content marketing strategist for women recovering from toxic relationships. Why Trish Chose Her Niche (00:02:20) Trish explains how her own experience with abuse influenced her business focus. Impact of Abuse on Business & Self-Esteem (00:02:58) Laura and Trish discuss how toxic relationships undermine confidence and business success. Regaining Voice & Authenticity Online (00:03:42) The struggle to express oneself authentically after abuse and the importance of self-trust in content creation. Dealing with Criticism & Perception (00:06:12) Handling negative feedback online and learning not to internalize others' perceptions. Teaching Self-Worth & Boundaries (00:08:47) Helping women rebuild self-worth, set boundaries, and value their work after toxic relationships. Overcoming Sabotage & Brain Fog (00:15:35) Trish shares how her ex sabotaged her business and the challenges of parenting and working during abuse. Holistic Healing: Nutrition & Self-Care (00:18:43) Trish's holistic approach, including nutrition and self-care, to support healing and business growth. Parenting & Breaking Generational Patterns (00:24:47) Teaching children healthy boundaries and breaking cycles of abuse for future generations. Reactive Abuse & Healing with Children (00:28:16) Discussing reactive rage, apologizing to children, and mutual healing after leaving abuse. Narcissists' Lack of Accountability (00:36:25) Red flags: abusers never take responsibility for problems in any area of life. Public vs. Private Persona of Abusers (00:37:19) How covert narcissists appear charming in public but are abusive at home. Rest, Self-Compassion, and Nervous System Healing (00:39:37) The importance of rest, self-compassion, and nervous system regulation after leaving abuse. Rediscovering Joy & Self-Care Rituals (00:41:02) Finding happiness, daily rituals, and self-care as part of rebuilding life and business. Overcoming Guilt & Building a Business Post-Abuse (00:42:14) Letting go of guilt, making bold moves, and growing a business as a single mom. Money Mindset & Leaving Despite Financial Fears (00:43:46) Shifting money mindset, setting intentions, and leaving toxic relationships even with little or no money. Knowing When You're Done & Taking the Leap (00:46:04) Recognizing the moment you're truly done and ready to leave, regardless of circumstances. Helping Complete Beginners Start Businesses (00:47:15) Trish supports women at all stages, including those starting from scratch.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Trish, 'For so long, I wasn't allowed to have an opinion. If I had an opinion that was my own, it was the wrong opinion for sure.' Trish, 'Energetically, I didn't have the capacity to be in that relationship and grow my business. I was walking on eggshells every day.' Trish, 'I sat for a moment and I'm like, I failed. My biggest thought was I failed my kids, and now I'm like, no, I didn't, because they are seeing something so much better and I am their safe space.' Trish, 'I am breaking these patterns so that my little girl does not grow up thinking this is how we are treated. And my boys, I do not want them to grow up thinking this is how we treat women.' Trish, 'Having the compassion for yourself to take the rest when you need the rest, because coming out of it, your body needs that time to heal.'   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 FOLLOW TRISH: WEBSITE: www.thetrishlynn.com/programs INSTAGRAM:  www.instagram.com/thetrishlynn FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/trish.lynn.527777 Self-Mastery & Money Reset: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1euBmBbNx26S4ya5qLR26DNGid_LymZHcCreoo7lfxVQ/edit?usp=sharing   "Your past may explain your story, but it doesn't have to define your future—you have the power to rebuild, reclaim your voice, and create a life that feels like your own."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Tiffany K—a school teacher, yoga instructor, hiking enthusiast, coffee lover, devoted mom to three adult children, proud grandmother, and narcissistic abuse survivor turned thriver. Tiffany brings both professional insight and deeply personal experience to this conversation, sharing her powerful journey from surviving toxic relationships to embracing healing, self-love, and authentic living.  As the host of The Journey Within with Tiffany K., a show dedicated to helping women reconnect with themselves and cultivate personal growth, Tiffany is passionate about guiding others toward emotional freedom and empowerment. Together, Laura and Tiffany explore the realities of trauma, the courage it takes to leave abusive dynamics, and practical tools for recovery—including meditation, journaling, boundaries, and community support. Tiffany's story is a testament to resilience and serves as an inspiring reminder that healing is possible and thriving is within reach.   Key Topics & Timestamps Tiffany's Background and Podcast Journey (00:02:10) Tiffany shares her diverse background and how she started her podcast focused on healing. Discovering the Healing Journey (00:02:54) Tiffany explains how her healing journey led to podcasting and the importance of addressing trauma stored in the body. Healing Modalities and Nervous System Regulation (00:03:55) Discussion about different healing methods, including journaling, meditation, and the impact of trauma on the nervous system. Recognizing Narcissistic Traits and Trauma Bonds (00:09:42) Tiffany details the common traits of narcissists and the addictive cycle of trauma bonding. Leaving Abusive Relationships and the Seven-Times Statistic (00:12:26) Discussion about why it takes multiple attempts to leave abusive relationships and the emotional manipulation involved. Tools for Breaking Trauma Bonds (00:19:22) Strategies like making lists or videos to remember the bad times and resist returning to abusers. Abusers Moving On Quickly and Self-Healing (00:20:08) Discussion about how abusers move on fast, while survivors focus on healing and self-growth. Learning and Setting Boundaries (00:24:40) Laura and Tiffany discuss the importance of boundaries as an act of self-love and protection. Boundaries in Practice and Societal Messages (00:25:09) Practical advice on setting boundaries and recognizing unhealthy relationship dynamics. Does the Label Matter? (00:29:06) Emphasis that the label "narcissist" is less important than how someone treats you. Conditional Gifts and Manipulation (00:29:49) Examples of manipulation through conditional gift-giving and emotional control. Self-Love and Rebuilding Identity (00:31:07) The journey of learning self-love, accepting compliments, and rebuilding identity after abuse. Journaling and Tracking Progress (00:37:22) The value of journaling to observe healing progress and rediscover personal interests. Discovering Self and Enjoying Solitude (00:39:15) Tiffany describes finding joy in her own company and exploring new hobbies. Trying New Things and Finding Peace (00:41:17) Encouragement to try new activities, focus on mental health, and find peace after leaving abuse. Guided Meditation and Healing the Mind (00:42:24) The benefits of guided meditation and mindfulness for healing trauma and regulating the nervous system. Rest, Fatigue, and the Body's Recovery (00:47:40) Discussion about post-abuse fatigue, the body's need for rest, and the transition to peace.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Tiffany, 'I remember moving out of my nice, fancy house into this little tiny apartment, and I thought, this is it. I'm free. I'm going to feel amazing now. But I had no clue about the healing journey I was about to begin.' Tiffany', 'Whenever I would go back to him, it was always those good times that would come up first, which is why I got towards the end, where I would start recording myself with tears running down my face, leaving his house, so I could go back and watch it every time I craved him.' Tiffany, 'I didn't love myself. I didn't respect myself, or I wouldn't have continued to put up with the shit for so long.' Tiffany, 'It does not matter if there's a label. It does not matter if they have NPD and it's stamped on something. The point is, do they show you love? And if you don't really know what love is, let me tell you something: when you're constantly walking on eggshells or your boundaries are constantly crossed, that is not love.' Tiffany, 'It really is so much better on the other side when you're living in peace, you know?'   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 FOLLOW TIFFANY: Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-journey-within-with-tiffany-k/id1773645244 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffanyk1111/   "Leaving was the first step—but learning to love myself, rebuild my identity, and finally live in peace was the true healing."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Vanessa Kavulish, a business strategist, speaker, entrepreneur, and founder of VK Growth Consulting. Vanessa helps founders scale their businesses with clarity and alignment—without losing themselves in the process. Having advised and coached hundreds of entrepreneurs, and as the founder of Benefit Bar, an elevated eco-friendly event brand known for exceptional execution and unforgettable experiences, Vanessa brings both strategic expertise and lived insight into sustainable growth and authentic leadership. In this empowering conversation, Vanessa shares her personal journey from seeking external validation to trusting her intuition, setting strong boundaries, and prioritizing self-respect. She and Laura explore the impact of societal conditioning, the importance of rest, and how relationships evolve as women step into their true selves. Vanessa also offers practical guidance on building confidence, strengthening self-trust, and growing both personally and professionally without sacrificing well-being. This episode is a powerful reminder that true success comes from alignment, authenticity, and honoring who you are becoming.   Key Topics & Timestamps Content Warning (00:01:16) A brief warning about potentially triggering subjects in the episode. Guest Introduction: Vanessa the Empowerment Coach (00:01:25) Laura introduces Vanessa, her background, and her work as an empowerment coach. Vanessa's Journey: Overachieving & Seeking Validation (00:02:15) Vanessa shares her upbringing, need for external validation, and how it led to her career and eventual unhappiness. Breaking Free from Others' Expectations (00:04:18) Discussion about filtering advice from well-meaning people and learning to trust your own path. Weeding Out External Voices & Self-Trust (00:07:22) The process of identifying which internal voices are truly your own and learning self-trust. Reframing Self-Validation & Self-Respect (00:08:02) Vanessa explains the importance of self-respect and treating yourself as your own best friend. Vanessa's Epiphanies & Empowerment (00:09:25) Vanessa shares how self-trust led to empowerment, new opportunities, and the start of her coaching journey. Coaching Focus: Women & Setting Boundaries (00:12:38) Vanessa explains her focus on coaching women and the importance of practicing saying no and setting boundaries. Self-Reflection: Judging Others & Internal Beliefs (00:17:28) Vanessa discusses how our judgments of others reflect our own internal struggles with boundaries. Learning Boundaries Through Experience (00:18:34) Laura shares her personal journey of discovering boundaries and the challenges of asserting them. Levels of Boundaries: With Others & Self (00:20:15) Vanessa explains that boundaries exist on many levels, including with oneself, and shares her own experiences. Rest, Burnout, and Permission to Slow Down (00:21:12) Discussion about the importance of rest, recognizing burnout, and giving yourself permission to take breaks. Losing & Gaining Relationships During Growth (00:26:29) Discussion on how healing and setting boundaries can lead to losing some relationships but making space for new, supportive ones. Normalizing Change in Social Circles (00:30:02) Vanessa normalizes the cycling of people in and out of our lives as we grow and change. Coping with the Pain of Losing Connections (00:31:20) Acknowledging the emotional difficulty of losing close connections during personal transformation. Final Thoughts: Trusting Your Authentic Self (00:32:40) Vanessa's closing advice to trust yourself, embrace your authentic self, and reconnect with your inner child. Being Yourself Attracts Your Tribe (00:34:12) Laura and Vanessa discuss how authenticity and humor help attract like-minded people and foster healing.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Vanessa, 'We have to learn to trust ourselves before we trust anybody else.' Vanessa, 'The person you have from the moment you're born until the moment you die is you, so you really have to learn how to be your best friend.' Laura, 'The ultimate act of self-love for me was learning how to set boundaries.' Vanessa, 'You have to give yourself permission to slow down, because we can't pour from an empty cup.' Vanessa, 'The key is just trusting yourself and leaning into who you are.'   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 FOLLOW VANESSA: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/vanessa.kavulish Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vkgrowthconsulting/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@coach_ness Website: www.vanessakavulish.com   "Self-trust is the foundation of every boundary, every decision, and every aligned life." Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura sits down with Gabrielle Burton, a Christian Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who specializes in the intersection of faith and clinical mental health. Gabrielle's expertise isn't just professional—it's deeply personal. Growing up as the "Golden Child" of a narcissistic pastor, she lived the confusing reality of reconciling a charismatic public persona with the severe emotional abuse that happened behind closed doors. Gabrielle shares her journey of "performing for love" and how her upbringing in a high-control religious environment shaped her calling to help others heal from spiritual abuse and "church hurt." Together, she and Laura pull back the curtain on how narcissists hide in plain sight within church systems, the psychological toll of "playing dead" to survive, and the path to reclaiming an identity that isn't tied to performance.   Meet the Guest: Gabrielle Burton Gabrielle Burton is a Christian Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, author, content creator, and podcast host passionate about helping people heal from trauma, overcome abuse, and walk fully in their God-given calling. With over 10 years of experience, she specializes in narcissistic and spiritual abuse, church hurt, and identity restoration—bridging biblical truth with clinical mental health care. Gabrielle earned her Bachelor's degree in Communications from Bethel University and has an extensive clinical background spanning foster care, hospital intensive outpatient programs, and trauma-focused therapeutic retreats. She is the author of "The Ultimate Guide to Becoming a Gold Digger: Discovering the Hidden Treasures Within" and hosts the YouTube podcast "Hosting Heaven." A former member of the Grammy Award–winning ensemble "Sounds of Blackness," Gabrielle continues to use her background in singing and creative storytelling as a tool for healing and impact.   Key Topics & Timestamps The "Golden Child" Experience (00:03:15): Gabrielle describes the moving target of her father's approval and being treated as an extension of his ego. Public Persona vs. Private Reality (00:05:40): The difficulty of reconciling a father who is a "great storyteller" and pastor with the man who inflicted severe mental and emotional abuse at home. Performing for Love (00:08:22): How being a "parentified child" taught Gabrielle that her value was tied to her gifts and "putting on a happy face." The God Complex (00:15:30): Gabrielle recalls the "Made in My Father's Image" portrait—a chilling example of a narcissist's god complex and lack of boundaries. Narcissism in Church Systems (00:19:45): A deep dive into how high-control religious environments prime women for abuse through rules on submission and silence. Peacemakers vs. Peacekeepers (00:24:10): Gabrielle clarifies the difference: Peacekeepers stay silent to survive, while Peacemakers (like Jesus) confront toxicity to bring truth. The "Narc Fog" and Social Rejection (00:29:55): Discussion on the anterior cingulate—how our brains register social rejection from a community as a physical threat to survival. The Madonna-Whore Complex (00:32:40): Gabrielle explains this psychological splitting and how narcissists use it to manipulate and devalue their partners. Authenticity as "Narcissist Repellent" (00:36:15): Why finding your own voice and setting boundaries is the quickest way to end a narcissistic cycle.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Gabrielle: "Narcissism is being more worried about what people think about you than what God thinks about you." Gabrielle: "You play dead in order to survive... you stop questioning things because it's almost more crazy-making to try to have a different reality than just to go with the flow." Laura: "I remember those lectures... like, do I need to be here for this? Can you just record yourself? It's ridiculous." Gabrielle: "Rules without revelation equals resentment, which looks like rebellion."   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 FOLLOW Gabrielle: WEBSITE: https://linktr.ee/gabrielleburtontherapy INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/gabriellemburtontherapy FACEBOOK: https://www.youtube.com/@gabriellemburton   "Healing begins the moment you stop performing for a system and start showing up for yourself."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura sits down with Alana Sharps, founder of SurThrive Tribe, a High Conflict Divorce and Child Custody Consultant, and Best Selling Author. Alana's work is deeply rooted in both professional expertise and lived experience. After navigating a toxic marriage marked by psychological abuse, she transformed her own pain into purpose—emerging as an empowered survivor and a dedicated advocate for others facing similar challenges. Alana shares her personal journey through a psychologically abusive marriage with a covert narcissist, the realities of high-conflict divorce and child custody battles, and the ongoing impact of post-separation abuse. Together, she and Laura discuss the importance of trauma-informed therapy, rebuilding self-worth, and the role of community support in healing. Inspired by her own experiences, Alana explains how she now helps others navigate the complex and often overwhelming landscape of high-conflict divorce. This episode offers hope, practical guidance, and valuable resources for anyone facing similar circumstances.   Key Topics & Timestamps Alana's Timeline: Leaving and Helping Others (00:02:22) Alana shares when she left her marriage (2018) and began helping others (2021). Realizing the Abuse and Awakening (00:02:59) Discussion about recognizing narcissistic abuse and the awakening process after leaving. Therapy and Dismissing Early Warnings (00:04:08) Alana recalls dismissing her therapist's warning about narcissism during her marriage. Love Bombing and Early Relationship Red Flags (00:07:47) Alana describes meeting her ex, early boundary-pushing, and the love bombing phase. Rapid Relationship Progression (00:10:35) The relationship moved quickly: moving in, engagement, and marriage within a year. Cycle of Abuse and Trying to Fix Things (00:14:22) Alana discusses the cycle of trying to regain the "good times" and the reality of abuse. Parenting and Control Over Children (00:18:09) Alana describes her ex's controlling behavior with their children, especially her daughter. Leaving After Witnessing Abuse (00:21:27) Alana decided to leave after witnessing her ex assault her son, prioritizing her children's safety. Supporting Others: Safety Planning (00:22:30) Alana explains how she supports clients, especially around safety planning when leaving abuse. Predictable Abuser Tactics in Court (00:25:36) Alana describes common legal tactics used by abusers, including false accusations and parental alienation. Therapy Challenges with Narcissists (00:27:29) The difficulties and ineffectiveness of couples counseling with narcissists are discussed. Financial Abuse and Hiding Assets (00:32:23) Discussion about financial manipulation and hiding assets during divorce. Becoming a High Conflict Divorce Coach (00:33:58) Alana's journey to becoming a certified high conflict divorce and child custody coach. EMDR and Healing from Trauma (00:37:34) Alana shares her experience with EMDR therapy for complex PTSD and managing triggers.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Alana, 'I wanted to be the person I needed when I was going through my divorce and child custody cases, because it's the worst feeling in the world to be scared you'll lose custody of your children.' Alana, 'In public, he was the perfect father and spouse, but behind closed doors, our family was tormented.' Alana, 'On our wedding night, he flipped out on me and continued to treat me badly on our honeymoon, and I was so confused.' Alana, 'When I saw him assault my oldest son, the light bulb went off and I knew the kids were not safe and I needed to leave.' Alana, 'When you share children, that's the last piece of control an abuser has over you, because now they can use the legal system to control you.'   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 FOLLOW ALANA: Your website link: https://www.surthrivetribe.com/ Instagram Link: https://www.instagram.com/alanasharps/ Freebie: https://kvisit.com/T89MH Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alanasharps  Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/alanasharpsauthor Was It My Fault Book: https://a.co/d/4f7jZ1f   From the episode:  Complex PTSD (CPTSD) is a condition resulting from prolonged, repeated trauma (like ongoing abuse or captivity) that includes standard PTSD symptoms (flashbacks, avoidance) plus core difficulties in emotional regulation, self-perception (worthlessness, shame), and relationships (mistrust, isolation). It's often linked to childhood trauma, but can affect adults, differing from PTSD by its chronic cause and added disturbances in identity and connection with others.  EMDR, or Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing, is a psychotherapy that helps people heal from trauma and distressing life events by reprocessing painful memories using bilateral stimulation (like eye movements, taps, or sounds) while focusing on the memory, reducing its emotional impact and helping the brain process it more adaptively. Developed by Francine Shapiro, it's recognized by organizations like the WHO and APA as an effective treatment for PTSD, anxiety, and other conditions stemming from unprocessed past experiences.    "Awareness is the first step from surviving abuse to reclaiming your power."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura sits down with Amy Jones — a Reflector Mentor, Sacred Strategist, and award-winning Publisher who generated over $1M in new client revenue in her first year of business while working part-time as a single mom of three. As a rare Reflector (just 1% of the population), Amy blends intuitive clarity with grounded, strategic leadership to help women build sustainable, soul-led businesses rooted in rhythm, purpose, and inner truth. Before founding LIVE WITH INTENT Media Group, Amy spent more than two decades in corporate sales and leadership across IBM, TELUS, and a high-growth digital media start-up, contributing to its expansion from 7 to 300 employees in under two years. Today, she leads a growing ecosystem that includes Okanagan Lake Living Magazine, the Leadership in Rhythm Series, and the Futures Foundation—a circular wealth model directing revenue back into women-led families, emerging founders, and community impact projects. In their conversation, Amy shares her journey from corporate burnout to becoming an intuitive life and business mentor. She and Laura explore what it means to break free from societal pressures, prioritize self-care, and allow yourself permission to experience pleasure, rest, and presence. Amy offers practical insights for nurturing well-being, celebrating small wins, and leading yourself with intention. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of healing, balance, and self-leadership for women seeking more joy and authenticity in their everyday lives.   Key Topics & Timestamps Guest Introduction: Amy's Background (00:01:33) Laura introduces Amy, her business, and her approach to pleasure and business mastery. Laughter and Joy as Medicine (00:02:00) Amy and Laura discuss the importance of laughter, joy, and laughter yoga for well-being. Amy's Path to Healing and Energy Work (00:06:38) Amy describes her journey from codependency and therapy to discovering energy healing and chakras. Helping Women Find Self-Leadership (00:09:47) Amy explains her mission to help women untangle unhealthy patterns and embrace self-leadership. The Instinct for "More" and Midlife Reflection (00:11:33) Discussion about the instinctive longing for more and how it often surfaces at midlife. Rest as a Skill and Societal Pressures (00:13:35) Amy discusses the importance of rest, her husband's experience, and society's struggle with slowing down. Amy's Coaching Approach: Self-Leadership (00:15:36) Amy explains her coaching style, focusing on self-leadership rather than mothering or spoon-feeding. Celebrating Small Wins and Incremental Progress (00:16:54) Amy uses the analogy of learning to ride a bike to illustrate the value of small, celebrated steps. Redefining Success and Life Templates (00:23:18) Amy and Laura question societal templates for success in work and relationships. Recognizing When Life Feels Wrong (00:24:04) Amy shares her realization that her "perfect" life felt unfulfilling and unsafe, prompting change. Permission for Pleasure: Amy's Speaker Series (00:27:45) Amy introduces her "Permission for Pleasure" concept and speaker series, focusing on allowing oneself to receive pleasure. Creating Space for Pleasure and Feminine Embodiment (00:32:24) Amy discusses feminine embodiment, creating space for pleasure, and how small changes can influence family dynamics.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Amy, 'My number one purpose in life is to enjoy life, not to work myself to exhaustion until I'm 65 and then take a vacation.' Amy, 'Resting is a skill that is highly underrated.' Amy, 'When you learn how to slow down and be in the moment and rest, you actually genuinely receive.' Amy, 'I help women slow down so they can really enjoy the depth and richness of everything around them.' Amy, 'Wherever you are, whatever you're going through, you have a mission, a message, and a purpose. You are so, so important.'   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 Connect with Amy Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/livewithintent Instagram: www.instagram.com/amyaajones/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/@amyaajones Website: www.livewithintent.ca Current Offer: www.livewithintent.ca/founders_circle Additional Link: Okanagan Lake Living Magazine www.bestversionmedia.com/bc/okanaganlakeliving/   "True leadership begins when you give yourself permission to slow down, receive, and enjoy your own life." Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura interviews Lynda Sunshine West, who shares her journey from a traumatic childhood to personal transformation. Lynda recounts running away from home at age five, overcoming years of fear and low self-worth, and breaking through one fear every day for a year. Her story highlights healing from past trauma, building healthy relationships, and finding purpose as a bestselling author and book publisher. The conversation offers hope and practical tools for women seeking to overcome fear, embrace self-acceptance, and create a fulfilling, authentic life.   Key Topics & Timestamps Origin of the Name "Sunshine" (00:03:16) Lynda explains how she adopted the name "Sunshine" during her year of breaking through fears. Running Away at Age Five (00:04:31) Lynda recounts running away from home at age five and the emotional impact it had on her life. Childhood Family Dynamics & Self-Worth (00:06:53) Discussion of Lynda's family environment, feelings of neglect, and how these shaped her self-worth. Personal Growth & Marital Challenges (00:15:39) Lynda shares how personal growth affected her marriage and her husband's reaction to her transformation. Gaslighting & Narcissistic Abuse (00:18:59) Laura discusses gaslighting, narcissistic abuse, and her book on reclaiming self-worth. Catalyst for Change at Age 51 (00:28:18) Lynda describes the breaking point in her career and the decision to hire a life coach. The Power of Choice & Self-Discovery (00:33:22) Discussion on human choice, self-discovery, and the importance of making life changes at any age. Marriage, Support, and Tough Love (00:34:36) Lynda shares a story about her husband's tough love regarding her health and the lessons learned. Breaking Through Fear: The 365-Day Challenge (00:40:32) Lynda details her year-long challenge to break through one fear every day and its impact. The Fear of Judgment & People-Pleasing (00:43:32) Lynda identifies fear of judgment as the root of many of her fears and how she overcame it. Seven Simple Steps to Break Through Fear (00:45:55) Lynda introduces her seven-step method for overcoming fear and explains its logic. Becoming a Book Publisher (00:50:19) Lynda shares how her journey led her to become a book publisher and help others share their stories.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Lynda, 'At five years old, gone a week, nobody came to get me. That belief was established: they didn't come because they didn't love me or want me around.' Lynda, 'I believed I was stupid because he told me this every single day. I believed I was ignorant. I believed nobody liked me and that people were only nice to me because they felt sorry for me.' Lynda, 'I hate my life. I hate everything I'm doing. I hate this job. Why am I doing this? Why am I here on this planet? What's my purpose?' Lynda, 'I didn't know I was in the dark until I was in the light. I was in the dark for 51 years.' Lynda, 'I have so many fears that are stopping me from living my life. I'm going to break through one fear every day this year.' RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 Connect with Lynda Facebook: https://facebook.com/lyndasunshinewest Instagram: https://instagram.com/lyndasunshinewest TikTok: https://tiktok.com/lyndasunshinewest YouTube: https://youtube.com/@actiontakerspublishing Website: https://actiontakerspublishing.com Download a free copy of Lynda's book, Do It BECAUSE You're Scared, at https://actiontakerspublishing.com/doit, and break through the fears that are holding you back.   "Courage isn't the absence of fear — it's choosing to move anyway." Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura interviews Lisa Hawkins — a Dating & Relationship Coach who empowers men and women to thrive in their relationships. With over 30 years of experience, Lisa has dedicated her life to understanding the intricacies of human connection and what truly makes relationships flourish. Her personal journey, marked by challenges, growth, and deep spiritual awareness, has given her a profound understanding of the obstacles individuals face in their search for love, healing, and self-discovery. Lisa shares her story of overcoming generational trauma, abuse, and the difficult process of recovering after an abusive marriage. The conversation explores the struggle of recognizing and trusting your instincts, the impact of societal conditioning, and the non-linear nature of healing. Lisa also offers practical guidance on self-awareness, journaling, and cultivating self-love. Together, she and Laura highlight the importance of compassion, patience, and honoring your unique path. Listeners are encouraged to embrace their own journeys and seek support as they reclaim their lives.   Key Topics & Timestamps Lisa's Background and Unconscious Family Conditioning (00:02:33) Lisa shares her upbringing in a toxic, unconscious family and how it led to abusive relationships. Experiences of Oppression and Lack of Boundaries (00:03:42) Lisa describes being raised to be agreeable, lacking boundaries, and early experiences of abuse. Immediate Regret After Marriage (00:06:52) Lisa recalls knowing she made a mistake hours after marrying, but feeling trapped by religion. Life in an Abusive Marriage (00:07:32) Lisa details her ten-year marriage, cycles of leaving and returning, and escalation of abuse. Barriers to Leaving Abusive Relationships (00:09:09) Lisa and Laura discuss why leaving abuse is complex, including privilege and safety concerns. The Long Healing Journey (00:14:12) Lisa shares that her healing has spanned 30 years, involving unraveling trauma and conditioning. Visible Healing and Personal Growth (00:16:15) Laura and Lisa reflect on how healing manifests outwardly and the unseen hard work behind it. Reacting vs. Responding and the Limits of Clichés (00:19:10) Discussion on the difference between reacting and responding, and why healing isn't as simple as memes suggest. Being vs. Doing in Healing (00:23:23) Lisa emphasizes the importance of being present and authentic in the healing process. Journaling and Pattern Recognition (00:26:04) Lisa recommends journaling to track feelings and patterns, aiding in rebuilding self-trust. Lisa's Podcast and Coaching Work (00:28:54) Lisa introduces her podcast "Conscious Insights" and describes her coaching clientele.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Lisa, 'That was the pivoting point in my life where I hit absolute bottom. There was absolutely nothing left of me.'Lisa, 'Some part of me, the fighter in me, came up and said, I'm not going to let this define me, and I will overcome it.'Lisa, 'Sometimes the emotions are more than what our bodies and brain and nervous system can take, and we become numb because that's the only way we can survive.'Lisa, 'There was a lot of conditioning that I wasn't aware of when I started the journey that was given to me from generations that I've had to unravel.'Lisa, 'There are times when I'm still learning to trust my gut, and I've been doing this for a long time.'   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE NICE GUY RECOVERY COMMUNITY: https://www.skool.com/nice-guy-recovery-community-1517 Connect with Lisa www.consciouslyawakecounseling.com https://consciouslyawakecounseling.com/about-me/ Lisa Hawkins Dating & Relationship Coach - https://www.facebook.com/ConsciouslyAwakeCoun Consciously Awake Counseling https://www.instagram.com/consciouslyawakecounseling/ Amazon KDP Ebook The Awakening by Lisa Hawkins : https://a.co/d/cQAua5o Conscious Insights Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4YZ3Dl30yDsNfMuHBvtkgK?si=db73a25f188b4a6b   "Healing begins the moment you stop ignoring your instincts and start trusting your truth." Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Beth M. Jones—an International Speaker, Author of 30 books, and podcaster. Beth is the wife of fire chief Ray, mom to three beautiful daughters (Heather, Eden, and Leah), and has two adorable cats. She helps women step out of fear into faith by sharing her story and the freedom we have in Jesus. Beth believes we should dream big because we serve a big God! Beth shares her powerful journey from childhood abuse and toxic relationships to healing and faith. She discusses overcoming trauma, recognizing red flags in abusive relationships, and the importance of self-worth and support. Drawing on her own experiences and faith in Jesus, Beth encourages women to step out of fear and embrace their unique purpose. The episode offers hope, practical insights, and resources for women seeking freedom and transformation.   Key Topics & Timestamps Beth's Motivation to Help Women (00:02:47) Beth explains how her childhood experiences inspired her to help women step out of fear into faith. Cinderella as a Metaphor for Unique Purpose (00:04:02) Beth discusses her connection to Cinderella, relating it to abuse and dreaming big. Beth's Childhood Abuse and Early Escape (00:05:03) Beth shares her experiences of childhood abuse and her desire to leave home as a teenager. Short-Lived First Marriage and Divorce (00:08:08) Beth talks about her brief first marriage, the birth of her daughter, and eventual separation. Post-Divorce Partying and Delayed Healing (00:11:13) Beth admits to partying and not focusing on self-improvement until much later in life. Journalism Career and Second Marriage (00:12:28) Beth describes her journalism internship, meeting her second husband, and his initial charm. Escalating Abuse and Financial Dependence (00:22:07) Beth describes the onset of her husband's temper, walking on eggshells, and feeling trapped financially. Physical Abuse Toward Beth's Daughter (00:28:26) Beth recounts her husband's violence toward her daughter, a medical emergency, and moving to escape. Trauma Bonding and Self-Doubt (00:35:06) Beth and Laura discuss trauma bonding, self-esteem issues, and the difficulty of breaking free from abuse. Beginning the Healing Journey (00:36:41) Beth starts counseling after her husband leaves, experiences panic attacks, and begins healing with her daughter. Therapy, Journaling, and Recovery (00:38:04) Beth describes the impact of therapy, journaling, and addressing compounded childhood trauma. Overcoming Fear and Embracing Public Speaking (00:41:04) Beth shares her initial fear of public speaking and how she learned to "do it afraid." Travel, Growth, and Encouraging Others (00:42:54) Beth discusses international speaking, personal growth, and encouraging others to pursue their dreams.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Beth, 'It stems from my own life experiences, things I went through in childhood, and I just have a passion for women to dream big and be all that God created them to be.' Beth, 'I can't say the marriage was a mistake because out of that marriage came my beautiful, precious daughter, Heather.' Beth, 'I think I always was looking for that love, that unconditional love that we want from someone.' Beth, 'I would try to please him and there wasn't pleasing him. I just felt that tension around him and I began to notice that temper.' Beth, 'Because of my childhood abuse, I didn't have the confidence in myself and value myself enough to know this is not good. This is not right. I should not be with this man.' Beth, 'I started going once a week, and I began to deal with all the pain and the trauma in my life, and it really helped me just to talk it out with a trusted person.' Beth, 'We do it afraid, just like you said. We do it afraid out of obedience to God, but just to give people hope and encourage others.'   RESOURCES: RESOURCES: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/resources COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura SELF WORTH RESET MINI COURSE: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/minicourse YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE Connect with Beth https://www.BethJones.net Amazon Author Page: https://www.amazon.com/author/bethmjones Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BethJones.net Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/bethmjones YouTube Channel (videos & vlogs): https://www.youtube.com/@bethmjones Etsy Shop: https://www.etsy.com/shop/Shineyourlightindark   "Bravery isn't loud—sometimes it's just choosing yourself." Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Julie Danielson—Life Coach, author, host of the "Get Over Divorce" podcast, and creator of the "Get Over Divorce Collective," a coaching program that helps women heal powerfully and create a life they love after divorce. Julie discusses healing after divorce, especially from narcissistic relationships, sharing her personal journey and the challenges of co-parenting with a toxic ex. She offers practical strategies like setting boundaries and using the Gray Rock Method. Together, they emphasize the importance of self-care, supportive communities, and rediscovering joy after trauma. Listeners are encouraged to reclaim their self-worth, embrace new experiences, and connect with resources for ongoing support and empowerment.   Key Topics & Timestamps Julie's Divorce Story (00:02:18) Julie shares her background, early marriage, and the personal journey leading to her divorce. Personal Growth After Divorce (00:06:33) Julie discusses her self-improvement, career growth, and the decision to end her marriage. Co-Parenting and Divorce Logistics (00:07:57) Julie explains the divorce process, co-parenting arrangements, and how clear agreements helped. Empowered Dating and Self-Worth (00:11:32) Laura and Julie reflect on dating with self-worth, authenticity, and not shape-shifting for others. How Julie Became a Divorce Coach (00:13:25) Julie describes her journey into coaching, the importance of authentic connections, and building her program. Julie's Second Marriage and Continued Growth (00:15:44) Julie shares meeting her current husband, the growth within a healthy relationship, and career transitions. Building a Coaching Business (00:17:39) Julie talks about starting her coaching business, focusing on helping women through divorce. Narcissistic Abuse vs. "Regular" Divorce (00:18:51) Discussion on the differences between divorcing a narcissist and a typical divorce, and the prevalence of narcissistic abuse. Losing Friends and Outgrowing Social Circles (00:26:31) They discuss how healing and setting boundaries can lead to losing friends who thrived on drama. Neuroplasticity and Healing the Brain (00:35:25) Discussion on how trying new things helps heal the brain after abuse and builds new neural pathways. Advice for Women Newly Divorced (00:37:11) Julie shares the "gray rock" method for dealing with toxic or narcissistic exes and minimizing emotional responses. Turning the Tables on the Narcissist (00:40:09) How gray rocking annoys narcissists and helps reclaim personal power. Handling Provocations and Staying Factual (00:41:42) Advice on not justifying or explaining yourself, sticking to facts, and not reacting to provocations. Powerful Quotes from the Episode Julie, 'As you grow and change, you are reaching new levels.' Julie, 'You don't need that drama in your life. Drama is life-sucking, and drama is what the narcissist surrounds himself with.' Julie, 'Your brain just expanded and you created a new neurotransmitter that says, "Oh, I can do this."' Laura, 'I'm good. And I do not ever have to acknowledge it because I've done too much work. I'm worth more than that. And so I will gray rock my life away.' RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura SELF WORTH RESET MINI COURSE: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/minicourse YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE JOIN THE HEALING GROUP: https://www.patreon.com/c/thatswhereimatpodcast CONNECT WITH JULIE: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/juliedanielson.CHAT Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliedanielson_coaching/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@getoverdivorcecoach Book a free Divorce Breakthrough Session with me, I will help you uncover some blocks and blind spots so you can breakthrough to your next level of healing faster. https://www.getoverdivorce.com/schedule Laura on Julie's podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/144-husbands-behind-a-mask/id1511048997?i=1000659284917 The Gray Rock Method https://psychcentral.com/health/grey-rock-method   "Boundaries aren't walls—they're bridges back to yourself."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura talks with Rhonda, a financial coach and advocate for women navigating divorce. Once someone who avoided conflict, Rhonda transformed her communication skills through therapy and education, turning her personal challenges into a mission to help other women find their voice and financial confidence. With over 17,000 hours of experience, 565 clients served, and $20 million secured for women, Rhonda brings both expertise and empathy to her work. A former financial advisor, she recognized that women facing divorce need more than advice—they need strategic and emotional support to rebuild their lives. Laura and Rhonda explore the realities of financial abuse, lack of access to information, and the emotional toll of divorce. Rhonda also shares her CIA framework—Communication, Integrity, and Advocacy—to help women make informed decisions and achieve lasting financial independence. Key Topics & Timestamps Transition to Financial Industry (00:05:20) Rhonda discusses entering the financial industry and encountering both support and dysfunction. Founding Women's Financial Wellness Center (00:06:40) Rhonda explains why she started her business and her holistic approach to financial coaching. Challenging Gender Stereotypes in Finance (00:11:29) Laura and Rhonda discuss outdated views about women and money, and the importance of empowerment. Strategies for Uncovering Hidden Assets (00:15:11) Rhonda shares investigative strategies for finding hidden assets and the importance of asking the right questions. Manipulation in Divorce Settlements (00:20:50) Laura and Rhonda discuss manipulation, gaslighting, and the importance of advocating for fair settlements. Real-Life Impact of Divorce on Lifestyle (00:24:19) Rhonda explains the 41% decrease in lifestyle post-divorce and how to plan for financial changes. Encouraging Proactive Financial Conversations (00:30:29) Advice for women to start asking questions, taking inventory, and reviewing financial documents. Respect and Integrity in Financial Services (00:36:33) Laura and Rhonda discuss the need for respect, integrity, and clear communication from financial professionals. Powerful Quotes from the Episode Rhonda, 'If I can help one woman improve her relationship with money, I've empowered her for a lifetime.' Rhonda, 'We just have to crunch the numbers and see where stuff lands and give women a voice to be able to advocate for what they need.' Rhonda, 'Don't just sign. That's probably my biggest advice. Don't just sign.' Rhonda, 'You don't have to know everything. You just have to be willing to ask questions unapologetically.' Rhonda, 'You create that safety, you create that trust, you know that somebody has your best interests at heart.' RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura SELF WORTH RESET MINI COURSE: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/minicourse YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com Connect with Rhonda WEBSITE: https://wfwcdivorce.com/ Get immediate access to my FREE mini course. https://api.leadconnectorhq.com/widget/form/S4a9NYjourlEQa70zVme "Financial freedom begins the moment you find your voice."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this empowering episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Heidi Bee, the Divorce Comeback Coach, to explore the emotional journey of rebuilding life after divorce. Heidi Bee is a certified and trauma-informed divorce coach and somatic breathwork facilitator. Through her 3-month Comeback Course & Coaching Community, she helps women navigate their "new normal" by providing the roadmap, resources, and relationships needed to move forward with confidence. She's also the host of the Divorce Comeback Coach podcast, where she shares truth-telling conversations and practical guidance to help women take their next best step toward the life they deserve and desire. In this heartfelt conversation, Laura and Heidi open up about: The feelings of isolation, grief, and identity loss that often follow divorce — especially after long-term or toxic relationships. The importance of self-care, setting healthy boundaries, and rebuilding community during recovery. How embracing vulnerability and self-compassion can lead to powerful transformation and growth. Together, they remind listeners that while the road to healing may be difficult, it is also filled with opportunities for renewal, empowerment, and rediscovery of one's true self.   Key Topics & Timestamps Heidi's Divorce Story and the "Divorce Ditch" (00:03:06) Heidi shares her personal experience of feeling lost and stuck after divorce, describing it as the "divorce ditch." Coping Mechanisms and Avoidance (00:06:41) Heidi describes unhealthy coping mechanisms she used to avoid pain, such as overworking and numbing behaviors. Shame, Stigma, and the Need for Conversation (00:08:28) Exploring the shame and societal stigma around divorce, and the importance of open conversations. Coaching, Dreaming, and Finding Your Voice (00:17:28) Laura and Heidi discuss the role of coaching in helping women dream again and reclaim their voices. Relationship with Uncertainty and Healing (00:25:45) Learning to manage uncertainty, calm the nervous system, and develop new tools for emotional regulation. Attracting Healthy Relationships Through Self-Love (00:31:37) Heidi shares how self-love and authenticity attract healthier relationships, both romantic and platonic. Protecting Emotional Energy and Reclaiming Space (00:40:48) Heidi emphasizes protecting your emotional landscape and reclaiming energy from unhealthy attachments. Making a "Shit List" and Tracking Emotional Impact (00:44:52) Using a list to remember the negative impacts of an ex and tracking emotional responses to avoid repeating pain.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode Heidi, 'I didn't want to admit I was depressed, but I was grieving and resisting it.' Heidi, 'I woke up one day thinking, I don't even know who I am anymore.' Laura, 'You deserve to trust your gut again. Spoiler alert: you were never the problem.' Laura, 'I started my podcast and realized no one ever let me talk.' Heidi, 'Recovery is self-discovery, and I forgot to continue to decide who I was going to be.' Heidi, 'It's more about trusting yourself, trusting that no matter what happens, you can handle it.' Heidi, 'I want people to know you don't have to be afraid of not knowing who you are. All that is, is uncertainty.' Heidi, 'The more I let go of things that no longer serve me, the more I have space to receive what is.' RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura SELF WORTH RESET MINI COURSE: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/minicourse YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com Connect with Heidi WEBSITE:  https://divorcecomebackcoach.com/    INSTAGRAM: @DivorceComebackCoach TIK TOK: @DivorceComebackCoach Freebies & More: https://linktr.ee/DivorceComebackCoach Divorce Comeback Coach Podcast - Spotify / Apple "The more you let go of what's gone, the more space you create for what's meant for you."   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Kate, a nurse of more than 20 years and a personal development coach, to talk about sobriety, self-worth, and healing after narcissistic relationships. Together, they explore how alcohol, food, and limiting beliefs can leave women vulnerable to toxic dynamics—and how breaking free requires courage, boundaries, and a new story. Kate shares her personal journey of getting sober, healing from toxic relationships, and reclaiming her power through coaching and self-discovery. With a focus on mental health and sobriety in her nursing career, Kate now runs a private practice helping women move past numbing behaviors and self-defeating patterns so they can step into their divine purpose. This heartfelt conversation offers practical strategies, hope, and encouragement for women ready to rewrite their narratives, reclaim their worth, and create healthier, more authentic lives. Key Topics & Timestamps Alcohol, Vulnerability, and Narcissistic Relationships (00:03:14) Kate explains how heavy drinking made her vulnerable to narcissistic partners and losing her sense of self. Drinking's Impact on Women (00:06:33) Discussion on how alcohol affects women differently and the societal normalization of drinking. Boundaries and Coaching Women (00:14:42) The importance of boundaries, self-sabotage, and how Kate coaches women to recognize and address these issues. Gaslighting and Reclaiming Sanity (00:19:44) Laura and Kate discuss gaslighting in narcissistic relationships and the importance of trusting your gut. Losing and Gaining Friends in Sobriety (00:28:48) Kate and Laura talk about losing old friends and gaining more authentic connections after getting sober. Love Bombing, Alcohol, and the Nervous System (00:37:19) How love bombing and alcohol both create emotional highs and lows, destabilizing women in toxic relationships. Coaching vs. Therapy: The House Painting Analogy (00:41:51) Kate explains the difference between coaching and therapy, using the analogy of missing a spot while painting. Kate's Coaching Practice (00:49:33) Kate describes her coaching services, approach, and how women can work with her for personal development and sobriety. Powerful Quotes from the Episode "Nobody plans on being an alcoholic; it's a very insidious drug that creeps up on us." - Kate "Give yourself permission to question your relationships when you get sober." - Kate "Alcohol only fuels your anxiety, and your superpower is getting really clear." - Kate "Go where you are celebrated, not tolerated." - Kate "A lot of healing has to do with just discovering our own power through sobriety." - Kate RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura SELF WORTH RESET MINI COURSE: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/minicourse YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com Connect with Kate https://kate-vitela.mykajabi.com/rewired-sober-coaching-program https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61577139306055 https://www.instagram.com/rewiredsober/ https://www.tiktok.com/@rewired.sober https://www.youtube.com/@rewiredsober https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-vitela-carn-nc-bc-a9240721/ Sobriety is where self-worth begins, and healing truly takes root. Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of That's Where I'm At, Laura and guest Allison K. Dagney share their experiences of healing after covert narcissistic relationships. They explore the challenges of recognizing emotional abuse, navigating divorce, and rebuilding self-worth through therapy, journaling, and supportive communities. Together, they offer hope and practical tools for women on their own healing journeys. Allison is a best-selling memoirist and emotional abuse recovery coach who helps women rise above toxic cycles and reclaim their strength. After nearly 20 years in a covertly abusive marriage, she transformed her trauma into triumph, later sharing her journey in her books When Tears Leave Scars and Radiate and Rise.   Key Topics & Timestamps Laura's Divorce & Realization (00:04:08) Laura recounts her divorce, discovering her ex's infidelity, and the clarity that followed about narcissistic abuse. Leaving a Narcissist: Planning & Survival (00:12:29) They discuss the importance of secret planning, survival mode, and the challenges of leaving an abusive relationship. Financial Abuse & Legal Strategies (00:20:56) Alison explains legal strategies like "status quo" to maintain financial stability during divorce. Finding Peace & Adjusting to Freedom (00:28:06) They discuss the unfamiliar feeling of peace and freedom after leaving an abusive relationship. Writing & Healing: Books and Podcasts (00:33:10) Laura describes her book's structure, the non-linear nature of healing, and the importance of sharing personal stories. Identity Loss & Rediscovery (00:40:23) They explore how abusive relationships cause loss of identity and the process of rediscovering personal interests. Quality Over Quantity in Relationships (00:58:11) They reflect on the value of having a smaller, higher-quality support network after leaving abuse.   Powerful Quotes from the Episode "I didn't know the depths of hell that a narcissist can do to you." - Alison "I had to choose me. I'd never chosen me, so I had to choose me.' - Laura "I cried because I was good at something I was never allowed to try, and someone was saying something nice to me." - Laura "I totally did not know what self-love was or how to love myself." - Alison "You have to take the first step, even if you don't see the whole staircase." - Laura "The key to me is boundaries, but you're not going to get there without self-love." - Laura "I am changing in a very good way, but that causes people to walk themselves right out of my life. I don't need those kinds of people anymore." - Alison "People are out there. Your tribe is out there. Unfortunately, you have to let go of the rest to find them." - Laura   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY, RECLAIMING YOUR SANITY AND SELF-WORTH AFTER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/   Connect with Allison WEBSITE: www.radiatenrise.com BOOKS: www.allisonkdagney.com   Your past may shape you, but it does not define your future.   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura welcomes Dr. Tina, a holistic brain health practitioner and survivor-turned-guide specializing in recovery from narcissistic abuse. Dr. Tina received her Ph.D. in Neuroscience from the University of Rochester and completed postdoctoral fellowships in psychiatric and nutritional epidemiology at Johns Hopkins and Tufts University. Drawing on both neuroscience and medical intuition, she helps sensitive souls address root causes beyond relationships, surroundings, or symptoms. Together, Laura and Dr. Tina discuss the challenges of toxic relationships, the importance of boundaries, and the path toward self-love. Dr. Tina shares her personal journey of once feeling like a magnet for toxic people, the strategies she developed to reclaim her power, and how those discoveries shaped her 7-Step UPLIFTS Program—a powerful framework to help clients heal from narcissistic abuse and learn to love again. Throughout the conversation, she offers practical tools such as somatic practices, mindfulness, and energy protection techniques, while Laura reflects on her own healing journey and advocates for women to share their stories. Known as a dynamic speaker who inspires hope in those navigating chronic health challenges and toxic relationships, Dr. Tina brings wisdom, compassion, and encouragement to anyone ready to reclaim their voice and their power. Key Topics & Timestamps Dr. Tina's Personal Journey & Becoming a Practitioner (00:02:33) Dr. Tina shares her experiences with toxic people and how it led her to specialize in this field. Understanding Boundaries and People-Pleasing (00:03:52) Discussion about the importance of boundaries, people-pleasing, and how these patterns attract toxic individuals. Fight, Flight, Freeze, and Trauma Release (00:07:14) The role of trauma responses and subconscious work in healing from abuse. Gray Rock Method & Emotional Detachment (00:10:16) Explanation of the gray rock method and its effectiveness in dealing with narcissists. Self-Love and Healing Journey (00:13:35) The importance of self-love, inner work, and the ripple effects of personal healing. Who Should Seek Dr. Tina's Help (00:39:28) Description of ideal clients and readiness for healing or relationship change. Powerful Quotes from the Episode "Never too late. Why not live the life you want, right?" "People with a lot of trauma can have very, very thick heart walls. I had a lot." "I grew up with narcissists and then I had a narcissist that destroyed my career." "I like that idea of celebrating your personal best because I think that's so important. It really makes me happy to think about where I was and now where I am." "I like to tell people, don't try hard. Try easy. Releasing subconscious barriers is the easiest and fastest way to get to where you want to go."   RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY, RECLAIMING YOUR SANITY AND SELF-WORTH AFTER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/   Connect with Tina https://tryholisticbrainhealth.com https://www.facebook.com/tryHolisticBrainHealth https://www.facebook.com/tina.huang.353 https://www.linkedin.com/in/tinalhuangphd www.youtube.com/@TinaHuangPhD 5 Powerful Strategies to Quickly Get Grounded: https://tryholisticbrainhealth.com/grounded-and-safe/ Listeners might find this useful: https://tryholisticbrainhealth.com/how-to-deal-with-bullies-trolls-and-haters/   Boundaries aren't walls—they're bridges back to yourself.   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura and her guest, Gabi Garland—her podcast producer and close friend—discuss Laura's healing journey after divorcing a narcissistic ex-husband. They explore the challenges of setting boundaries, overcoming shame, and breaking generational cycles of trauma. Laura shares how creating the podcast has empowered her and built a supportive community for survivors. The conversation highlights the importance of vulnerability, self-love, and storytelling in healing, offering hope and practical advice to listeners navigating their own paths to recovery and self-discovery. Key Topics & Timestamps Celebrating Two Years & Laura's Transformation (00:01:56) Producer reflects on Laura's growth from fearful to empowered over the past three years. The Impact of Abuse on Self-Belief (00:09:53) How abuse rewires beliefs and the importance of doing deep inner work. Support Systems & Newfound Family (00:11:58) The importance of supportive friends and chosen family during healing. Celebrating Successes & Achievements (00:17:05) Laura's milestones: media appearances, bestselling books, and learning to celebrate herself. Podcast Growth & External Recognition (00:22:58) Reaching top podcast rankings, media invitations, and the impact of authenticity. Accountability & Choosing to Heal (00:53:07) Encouragement to seek therapy, question inherited identities, and choose change. Generational Healing & Family Reconciliation (01:04:46) Changing generational patterns, healing with her children, and doing it for future generations. The Power of Telling Your Story (01:16:26) Encouragement to share your story, as it may be the key to someone else's healing. The Worth of the Healing Journey (01:19:00) Reflecting on the value of the healing process and excitement for the future. Powerful Quotes from the Episode "If it feels hard, that doesn't mean it's wrong. The wrong people are leaving, and there's room for the right ones." "Gaslighting isn't just a buzzword—it's the sick, spiraling feeling when they say, 'You're too sensitive.'" "You're never going to get to boundaries if you don't love yourself." "The only person we're protecting when we stay silent is the abuser." "There's a woman who was me three years ago—if I don't tell my story, she's going to die." "It's never too late. Please hear this—you can change." RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY, RECLAIMING YOUR SANITY AND SELF-WORTH AFTER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/ Connect with Gabi Garland WEBSITE: https://www.resilientvoicemedia.com/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/gabi.garland FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/gabrielle.anaya.5?mibextid=LQQJ4d TIK TOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@gabi.garland?_t=8qZEJ4HMlmY&_r=1 The moment I broke my silence, I found my strength.   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of "That's Where I'm At," host Laura interviews Michal Spiegelman, a certified professional life coach, Reiki master, spiritual mentor, medical intuitive, and social worker, about healing from abuse and trauma, especially for women. Michal shares her journey from social work to holistic healing after her own trauma, emphasizing that true recovery involves body, soul, and spiritual work—not just talk therapy. The conversation explores practical tools like soul journaling and guided visualization, the importance of self-worth, and setting boundaries. Listeners are encouraged to seek holistic healing approaches and connect deeply with their inner selves for lasting transformation. Michal is the author of 'Becoming Soulful: Six Keys for Profound Transformation in Your Therapy, Coaching, or Healing Practice,' and is passionate about elevating consciousness in the world, one soul at a time. She empowers women and healing professionals alike to become soulful and shine in their personal and professional lives.   Key Topics & Timestamps The Limits of Talk Therapy (00:03:17)Michal discusses the limitations of traditional therapy and the importance of integrating body and soul work. The Role of the Soul in Healing (00:05:05)Michal explains the importance of connecting with one's soul for deep, sustainable healing and guidance. Soul Journaling and Practical Practices (00:11:50)Michal describes practical exercises for connecting with the soul, such as soul journaling and intentional rituals. Patterns from Past Trauma (00:14:10)Laura and Michal discuss how childhood patterns and beliefs influence current relationships and healing. Kindness vs. Tolerating Abuse (00:14:34)Michal highlights the common confusion between being kind and tolerating abuse, especially among spiritual women. Self-Love and Breaking Patterns (00:18:50)Laura and Michal discuss the necessity of self-love and worthiness to break cycles of abuse and attract healthier relationships. Not All Healing Means Divorce (00:21:50)Michal notes that not all clients end up divorcing; some transform their relationships through inner work. Powerful Quotes from the Episode Laura, 00:18:50, 'The biggest thing for me was learning how to love myself and that I had value.' Michal, 00:19:01, 'Until you feel that you're worthy and until you really learn to love yourself, that's why many women attract relationship after relationship with abuse.' Laura, 00:20:58, 'I have value, I have worth, and he was unwilling to participate in our life.' Michal, 00:22:01, 'If we get a divorce and we don't do the inner work, then we just bring the same patterns into the next relationship.' Michal, 00:22:51, 'To know and to remember that the trauma is stored in the body.' RESOURCES: COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura YOU'RE NOT CRAZY, RECLAIMING YOUR SANITY AND SELF-WORTH AFTER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/ CONNECT WITH MICHAL: WEBSITE: https://www.beaconsofchange.com/  GET HER BOOK: https://a.co/d/hjWAur2 Healing begins when you remember your worth.   Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.

In this episode of That's Where I'm At, host Laura sits down with Marla Bollak, an Interpersonal Relationship Coach and Certified Sacred Depths Coach trained in NLP, neuro-coaching, and trauma. Marla's mission is to empower professionals to clear blocks from within themselves and from toxic relationships in the workplace or family. Her holistic approach integrates the body, mind, emotions, and energetics. She specializes in working with highly functioning, successful professionals who have read all the books, attended all the seminars, tried all the things — with some success — yet the problem remains. Together, Laura and Marla explore: Healing from narcissistic abuse and how childhood trauma affects adult relationships How trauma responses like fawning develop and why nervous system regulation is essential The power of an empathetic witness in healing How healing shifts your energy, helping you break free from toxic cycles The role of vulnerability and compassion in long-term growth and recovery Whether you're on the path to healing or supporting someone who is, this episode offers practical tools, hope, and encouragement. Key Topics & Timestamps Marla's Background and Healing Journey (00:02:58) Marla shares her childhood experiences, her healing journey, and her motivation for coaching others. Why People Don't Intervene (00:08:28) Marla and Laura discuss conflict avoidance, enablers, and the challenges of getting support from others. Clients' Experiences and Trauma Responses (00:09:24) Marla describes common issues clients face, trauma responses like fawning, and the importance of nervous system regulation. The Role of the Empathetic Witness (00:12:31) Marla explains the importance of having an empathetic witness in healing and how memories can be changed. Growth Through Healing and No Longer Attracting Bullies (00:15:49) Marla and Laura talk about using adversity for growth and how healing changes their reactions to toxic people. Energetics and No Longer Attracting Abuse (00:17:06) Marla explains how energetic shifts mean toxic people no longer affect or are attracted to you. Triggers, Healing with Family, and Vulnerability (00:17:59) Laura shares about being triggered, healing with her children, and the importance of vulnerability in family healing. Excuses vs. Reasons for Trauma Responses (00:19:09) Marla reframes "excuses" as reasons for trauma responses, encouraging self-compassion. Powerful Quotes from the Episode Laura, 00:00:34, 'Keeping secrets will make you sick, and they always come to light in the end.' Marla, 00:04:07, 'Don't give up on yourself.' Laura, 00:07:17, 'I spent 33 years with someone who made me feel like I was the problem every time, no matter what.' Laura, 00:07:17, 'You deserve to trust your gut again. You deserve to trust you.' Marla, 00:06:20, 'People would see me being abused in full daylight and nobody stood up for me. They acted like it was normal.' Laura, 00:12:13, 'What I found was that I wasn't being loved the way I needed to be loved.' Laura, 00:19:02, 'We've had a lot of good healing and it's taken a lot of vulnerability to get there.' RESOURCES: YOU'RE NOT CRAZY, RECLAIMING YOUR SANITY AND SELF-WORTH AFTER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE ebook: GET IT HERE MARRIED TO A "NICE" GUY: GETTING OVER NARCISSISTIC ABUSE: SHOP HERE FOLLOW THE PODCAST: http://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com PRIVATE FACEBOOK SUPPORT GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marriedtoaniceguy/ COACH WITH LAURA: https://www.thatswhereimatpodcast.com/coachwithlaura Connect with Marla Bollak Website:  https://marlabollak.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marla/ Healing takes vulnerability — but it leads to deeper connection. Podcast Produced and edited by the team at ResilientVoiceMedia.com Contact us for expert podcast production and support.