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The Love in Action Podcast—ranked #33 among the 100 Best Leadership Podcasts and in the top 2% of shows worldwide—is where leadership meets humanity. Hosted by global influencer, author, and executive coach Marcel Schwantes, the show features candid conversations with bestselling authors, visionary executives, and thought leaders who are redefining what it means to lead. Whether you want to sharpen your leadership skills, create a culture people love to work in, or grow your business by putting people first, you’ll find practical wisdom and inspiring stories to help you get there.
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This episode is brought to you by Peak Performers, a nonprofit staffing agency that champions professionals with disabilities. Learn more at www.peakperformers.org     Episode recap:    Today’s guest is Bree Sarlati, President and CEO of Peak Performers, a nonprofit staffing agency that champions professionals with disabilities. Sarlati is leading Peak Performers’ mission to raise the standard of employment for people with disabilities. She breaks down the biases that still shape hiring and explains how Peak is proving that skilled talent is everywhere. We discuss how to build inclusive teams and how Peak is scaling nationally while staying deeply human-centered. Bree also shares their “Talent Without Limits” initiative and explains how her team is integrating AI into recruiting without losing empathy or accountability.    BIO:   Bree Sarlati is a pragmatic strategist known for turning complexity into clarity. As CEO of Peak Performers, Bree has led the organization's national expansion, modernizing operations, embracing new technology, and scaling its mission beyond Texas. Her focus on agility ensures that even as Peak grows, it never loses the human touch that defines its work. Bree has a talent for spotting potential that others miss and for connecting people with opportunities that move them forward. Passionate about disability employment and gender equity in leadership, she champions fair, future-ready systems and brings clarity, curiosity, and a people-first approach when the stakes are high.   Quotes:  Our mission as a non-profit has always been to set a higher standard of employment for people with disabilities.  We stay focused on the candidates who are going through one of the most stressful experiences of their lives, which is job searching. That's a time when we should be very aware of people's human-level needs.  A CEO always needs to be looking inward and asking, 'What skills do I need to add to take this organization to where I want it to go?  Takeaways:  Inclusive hiring unlocks hidden talent and drives organizational success.  Disabilities encompass many unseen conditions and should be understood broadly.  Technology can scale impact without sacrificing the human connection in recruiting.  Agile leadership starts with self-awareness and adapting to constant change.  Empathy and respect should guide all workplace interactions and decision-making.  Timestamps:  00:00:00 Introduction and Overview of Peak Performers  00:02:30 Bree Sarlati’s Journey and Passion for Storytelling  00:08:40 Peak Performers’ Mission and Redefining Disability Employment  00:14:20 Challenges and Evolution in Disability-Inclusive Hiring  00:21:00 The Importance of Agility and Leadership Self-Awareness  00:26:30 Building Agile, Human-Centered Teams  00:32:00 Leveraging Technology Without Losing the Human Touch  00:36:30 The “Talent Without Limits” Initiative  00:41:00 The Role of Empathy, AI, and Creativity in Modern Recruiting  00:45:30 Leading with Love, Key Takeaways, and Final Thoughts  00:49:00 Connecting with Bree Sarlati and Closing Remarks    Conclusion:  As this inspiring conversation draws to a close, reflect on how inclusive hiring can transform both businesses and lives. We have learned that true agility in leadership comes from embracing change with empathy and purpose. Peak Performers shows us that technology and human connection can coexist to build workplaces of belonging. The journey to future-ready teams begins by recognizing untapped potential and challenging our own assumptions. Let us carry these lessons forward and strive to create workplaces where everyone has the opportunity to thrive.    Links/Resources:  Peak Performers Website: https://www.peakperformers.org/   Peak Performers on LinkedIn (Company Page): https://www.linkedin.com/company/peak-performers-staffing-agency/   Bree Sarlati on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bree-sarlati/   Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/       LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/   Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9fO2r_ZQ3wy5ie522f-DTQ   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/    
Don’t forget Marcel’s special offer to join his Substack community. Subscribe here: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/subscribe   Episode recap: This episode explores a quiet but powerful turning point many high-achieving leaders face in midlife, when success no longer feels fulfilling. It names the real issue—not burnout, but misalignment between a leader’s outer accomplishments and inner values—and reframes it as a necessary recalibration rather than a crisis. Through reflection, values realignment, and intentional listening, leaders can reconnect with meaning, purpose, and a more authentic way of leading and living.   Bio: Marcel Schwantes is a speaker, author, and acclaimed executive coach with a global following. Recognized by Inc. Magazine as one of the Top 50 Leadership and Management Experts in 2025, Marcel’s thought leadership reaches millions each month through global media like Inc., Time, Fast Company, Business Insider, and Forbes. Marcel delivers presentations, workshops, courses, and coaching programs about the human side of business and how cultures of care,  connection, and belonging power companies to thrive and outperform the competition.   Quotes:  True fulfillment begins when you pause to listen to your inner voice, not just your outer achievements.  The greatest crisis we face in midlife is not failure but living a life out of alignment with who we truly are.  Success without meaning will always leave you feeling restless and incomplete.  When you dare to revisit your core values, you rediscover the energy and purpose that fuel your next chapter.  Your next breakthrough starts when you ask what decision moves you closer to who you are becoming.    Takeaways:  External accomplishments alone cannot bring lasting fulfillment without inner alignment.  Regular stillness and reflection are essential to connect with your true values and desires.  Midlife is not a crisis, but a powerful opportunity for recalibration and growth.  Simple daily questions and journaling can reveal the real story of who you are now.  Realigning your life with your authentic self opens the door to deeper joy, meaning, and impact.    Timestamps:  00:00:00 Introduction & The Hidden Question Behind Success 00:01:40 Success Achieved, Emptiness Remains 00:03:20 The Disconnect of “Going Through the Motions.” 00:05:00 Decades of Momentum & Inner Tiredness 00:06:40 Playing a Character & Seeking Deeper Meaning 00:08:20 Facing Burnout & The Concept of Misalignment 00:10:00 Rediscovering Values and Building Self-Awareness 00:11:40 Time to Pivot: Steps for Realignment 00:13:20 Grounding Yourself with Daily Questions 00:15:00 Journaling Exercise, Reflections & Outro   Conclusion:  True fulfillment starts when you stop chasing more and start tuning into what matters most within. The path to congruence is not about abandoning your achievements but about aligning them with your deepest values and desires. Remember, the discomfort you feel is really an invitation that serves as a wake-up call to a richer, more meaningful season of life. By embracing stillness, revisiting your core values, and asking powerful questions, you can chart a new course that feels genuinely right for you. Your next chapter is waiting, so are you ready to write it with purpose and passion?    Links/Resources:  Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/       LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/   Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes   YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@MarcelSchwantes1 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/  
Episode recap:   Subscribe to Marcel’s Substack here:   https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/subscribe     Marcel Schwantes opens Season 10 with gratitude and a renewed call for better leadership. He previews more solo episodes in 2026 and emphasizes that a leadership strategy only works when a leader’s character and inner operating system are solid. He reframes authentic leadership as humility, self-honesty, and service. Authenticity starts with self-awareness, supported by a weekly reflection: where you lived your values, where you drifted, and what triggered it. He links authentic leadership to well-being by urging leaders to remove friction, create clarity, support mental health, and help people connect to purpose—since burnout often stems from a loss of meaning, not just workload.    Bio:   Marcel Schwantes is a speaker, author, and acclaimed executive coach with a global following. Recognized by Inc. Magazine as one of the Top 50 Leadership and Management Experts in 2025, Marcel’s thought leadership reaches millions each month through global media like Inc., Time, Fast Company, Business Insider, and Forbes. Marcel delivers presentations, workshops, courses, and coaching programs about the human side of business and how cultures of care,  connection, and belonging power companies to thrive and outperform the competition.    Quotes:  "You become a far more effective leader the moment you stop performing leadership and start practicing it."  "Authentic leadership always, always starts with self-honesty."  "Humility is a performance enhancer, not just a personality trait."  "Great leaders aren't afraid of holding up the mirror; they invite feedback and treat it like data, not judgment."  "Real authentic leadership exists to meet real human needs."    Takeaways:  Authentic leadership begins with self-honesty and removing the mask.  Humility allows leaders to learn, grow, and truly connect with others.  Seeking and acting on feedback transforms workplace relationships.  Meeting the real needs of people is at the heart of effective leadership.  Redefining leadership with authenticity, humility, and service sets the stage for a thriving culture.    Timestamps:  00:00 Introduction & Podcast Purpose  03:26 2026 Podcast Direction & New Year Focus  06:00 Principles of Authentic Leadership  08:30 Practical Implementation Tips  14:45 Conclusion & Call to Action    Conclusion:  As we close out this episode, remember that real leadership begins with honesty, humility, and a genuine commitment to serving others. By embracing authenticity and staying true to your values, you create space for growth, trust, and lasting impact. Let this new year be your opportunity to lead with heart, listen deeply, and elevate the people around you. True change starts from within, and your leadership can set the tone for a better tomorrow.    Links/Resources:  Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/       LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/   Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes   YouTube: hhttps://www.youtube.com/@MarcelSchwantes1  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/  
Episode recap Vanessa Druskat, social and organizational psychologist and author of The Emotionally Intelligent Team, joined the Love In Action podcast to unpack what truly separates average teams from exceptional ones. Her decades of research reveal that it’s not brilliance at the top or superstar individual contributors that drive sustained performance. The real differentiator is a team’s emotional ecosystem—the shared norms, routines, and habits that create trust, belonging, and collaborative energy. By shaping the everyday habits discussed, leaders can create a culture where people feel safe, energized, and committed—conditions that ultimately drive exceptional performance.   Bio Vanessa Druskat is an associate professor at the Peter T. Paul College of Business and Economics at the University of New Hampshire. As an internationally recognized leadership and team performance expert, Vanessa Druskat advises leaders and teams at over a dozen Fortune 500 and Fortune Global 500 companies. She is the recipient of multiple research and teaching awards. She is the author of The Emotionally Intelligent Team.    Quotes:  “We spend a lot of time trying to hire the best people or fix people, but we don’t spend enough time asking the collective what it needs to work better together.”  “To experience belongingness, a person must feel seen, known, understood, and supported by the entire team. We are wired to perform at our best under these conditions.”  “Leaders have the power to change their teams’ cultures and add practices that respect members’ universal human need to belong.”  Takeaways:  Emotionally intelligent teams thrive by creating routines that build trust, psychological safety, and belonging.  Successful collaboration is driven by helping team members succeed, improving constantly, and seeking new ideas.  Understanding teammates’ unique strengths and personalities is key to engagement and high performance.  Addressing unacceptable behavior with caring, actionable feedback strengthens team dynamics.  Leaders should assess team needs regularly and set collective norms to foster a culture of continuous improvement.  Timestamps:  0:00:02 Introduction & Episode Overview  0:02:40 Guest Welcome & Background  0:05:32 Motivations for Studying Teams  0:07:10 Defining Team Emotional Intelligence  0:10:40 Team Norms & Three Core Buckets  0:15:33 Helping One Another Succeed  0:16:37 Understanding Team Members  0:18:55 Demonstrating Caring  0:23:15 Addressing Unacceptable Behavior  0:29:43 Measuring Team Success  0:32:11 Groupthink & Decision Making  0:33:29 Speed Round: Personal Insights  0:36:26 Hopes for 2026  0:37:53 Leadership, Love, and Final Advice  0:40:53 Connecting with Vanessa Druskat  0:41:41 Closing Remarks  Conclusion:  As we wrap up this episode, remember that extraordinary teams aren’t built by perfect individuals—they’re powered by collective trust, curiosity, and care. Let today be your reminder to reach out, understand, and uplift those around you. When we lead with empathy and foster true connection, the results speak for themselves. Here’s to building teams where every voice matters, and collaboration leads the way.  Links/Resources:  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessa-druskat/   Website - https://www.vanessadruskat.com/   Team EI Survey – https://www.vanessadruskat.com/survey   Book - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1647824877?tag=bk00010a-20&th=1&psc=1&geniuslink=true   University of New Hampshire -  https://paulcollege.unh.edu/person/vanessa-druskat  
Episode recap   What happens when a West Point–trained Army Ranger turns his convictions about faith, entrepreneurship, and country into a fast-growing, American-made apparel brand? In this episode, Marcel sits down with Dean Wegner, founder and CEO of Authentically American, to explore how military discipline, servant leadership, and a mission-driven business model are reshaping what “Made in the USA” can mean today.    Note: You can purchase one of the sweat-activated T-shirts here: https://www.authenticallyamerican.us/collections/army-west-point-screenprint    If you use the code FOUNDER, you will get 25% off.   Bio: Dean Wegner is the Founder and CEO of Authentically American, a Veteran-owned, American-made premium apparel brand. They are a company that celebrates patriotism, supports the American worker, and donates 10% of its profits to Veteran and First Responder charities. A West Point graduate, Dean served 7 years as a helicopter pilot and Army Ranger. Dean and Authentically American have been featured in Forbes, Inc. Magazine, FOX News, MSNBC, Nasdaq, Newsmax TV, and SiriusXM Radio.    Quotes:  “When things are really challenging, you cannot do it on your own. You need a team.”  “No one cares about how much you know until they know how much you care.”  “You do not get to sing second unless you have a tireless work ethic.”    Takeaways:  Servant leadership becomes even more important in moments of difficulty  Values create the foundation for how a leader shows up each day  Having a Ranger buddy or trusted partner increases your chances of success  Great ideas do not always come from the leader; they come from the team  Mission-driven work fuels perseverance and purpose    Timestamps:  [01:55] Dean joins and aligns with servant leadership  [02:13] Dean shares his personal story and values  [03:27] What Authentically American is and why American-made matters  [04:38] The impact of creating American jobs  [05:45] Business model explanation and pricing strategy  [06:49] Military experiences shaping Dean as a leader  [08:53] The meaning of sing second and respect in leadership  [11:15] Leadership lessons from Ranger School and corporate life  [15:20] Servant leadership during challenging times  [16:27] Counterintuitive leadership lesson about thought leadership  [18:15] Advice for aspiring founders and servant leaders  [19:16] Future growth and building a sales team  [20:34] Dean demos the sweat-activated T-shirt  [23:29] Custom apparel for businesses and nonprofits  [24:08] How Authentically American serves charities at cost  [25:09] Speed round: family, fitness, and inspirations  [27:29] Dean’s biggest hope for 2026  [28:33] Leading with practical love in action  [29:19] Final takeaway about having a Ranger buddy  [30:09] How to connect with Dean and the brand  [31:06] Closing remarks and Army-Navy game reminder    Conclusion:  Dean Wegner leaves listeners with a clear message that leadership is ultimately an act of service. Through his military lessons, commitment to American manufacturing, and daily devotion to putting others first, he demonstrates that meaningful leadership is built on humility, teamwork, and purpose. His story calls us to lead with care, stay rooted in our values, and pursue missions that create real impact in the lives of others.    Links/Resources:  Website: https://www.authenticallyamerican.us/     Dean Wegner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanwegner93/  Facebook: @AuthenticallyAmericanCo   Instagram: @authentically_american  
Episode Recap This week on the podcast, I sat down with Dr. Jaime Goff — executive coach, therapist, and author of The Secure Leader. Our conversation goes deep into something many leaders feel but rarely explore: how our early attachment patterns quietly follow us into the workplace.    Dr. Jaime breaks attachment theory down into something extremely practical for leaders. At the core are two questions we all carry:  Am I worthy of connection? Can I trust others to show up for me?  Our answers tend to show up at work in three ways. One of those ways is that of a “secure leader”: Grounded, steady, and empowering — the hallmark of modern servant leadership.  Leaders who do the inner work of a Secure Leader create workplaces where people can flourish.    Guest Bio Dr. Jaime Goff is the founder of The Empathic Leader, LLC, where she specializes in helping leaders unlock their full potential through executive coaching, insightful workshops, and thought-provoking keynotes. Jaime holds a PhD in Couple and Family Therapy from Michigan State University and a graduate certificate in executive coaching from Southern Methodist University   Quotes:  “We are not prisoners to our previous patterns, because we all have the power to become more secure.”  “Your leadership is shaped long before you ever enter a leadership role.”  “To love others well as a leader, you first have to believe you are worthy of love yourself.”  “Emotional regulation is the first step toward showing up as a secure and present leader.”  “All behavior makes sense in context, especially when you understand your story.”    Takeaways:  “We are not prisoners to our previous patterns, because we all have the power to become more secure.”  “Your leadership is shaped long before you ever enter a leadership role.”  “To love others well as a leader, you first have to believe you are worthy of love yourself.”  “Emotional regulation is the first step toward showing up as a secure and present leader.”  “All behavior makes sense in context, especially when you understand your story.”    Timestamps:  00:02 Intro and podcast milestones  05:12 Meet Dr. Jaime Goff and her personal story  07:21 The “latchkey kid” upbringing and over-independence  10:55 Why she wrote The Secure Leader  13:26 Attachment theory explained  15:21 How unworthiness shapes controlling or approval-seeking leadership  18:50 Jaime’s aha moment as a young leader  21:34 Gaining awareness and deconstructing your story  24:07 Avoidant, anxious, and secure leadership styles  28:44 Trauma, triggers, and past patterns repeating at work  32:18 The cost of skipping inner work  37:49 First steps to becoming a secure leader  40:06 Where to take the Secure Leader style scan  41:37 Speed round  45:52 Jaime’s hope for more secure leadership  48:31 Leading with love and building self-worth  50:56 Final takeaway on moving slow to move fast  52:57 How to connect with Dr. Jaime Goff    Conclusion:  As we close this inspiring conversation, remember that real leadership begins within. When you commit to self-discovery, you build the foundation to lead others with empathy, purpose, and resilience. Growth is a lifelong journey where each step forward helps you make a positive impact on those around you. Lead with clarity, nurture meaningful connections, and watch your influence create ripples of transformation in your team and beyond.    Links/Resources:  Website (take the assessment)- https://drjaimegoff.com/   LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjaimegoff/   Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/Secure-Leader-Discover-Leadership-Story/dp/B0FBZ39H8Y/   Email Dr. Goff: jaime@drjaimegoff.com       
Episode recap     In this episode, I sat down with Dr. Martin Dubin — a clinical psychologist turned entrepreneur and executive coach — to unpack the blind spots that quietly sabotage leaders. Marty’s journey from therapy rooms to boardrooms shaped his book Blindspotting, where he helps executives see what they can’t see about themselves. We dug into why even the smartest leaders miss their own patterns, how to build self-awareness without beating yourself up, and why humility and small shifts matter more than big transformations.    Key Insights:  Blind spots aren’t flaws — they’re unseen patterns. Marty explained how our minds naturally focus on familiar territory, leaving some behaviors invisible to us. Six areas to watch: identity, motives, traits, emotions, intellect, and behavior — all interconnected layers that shape how leaders show up.  Awareness beats overhaul. Growth happens through small, intentional adjustments, not massive self-reinventions.  Humility is the gateway to insight. The best leaders don’t try to be perfect — they stay curious about what they might be missing.  Self-awareness drives effectiveness. Understanding your motives and emotional triggers helps you lead with more clarity, empathy, and confidence.  BIO:   Martin Dubin is a clinical psychologist, serial entrepreneur, business coach, and adviser to C-suite executives and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs. He founded several companies, including a multimillion-dollar health care company where he also served as CEO. A former coach at the Center for Creative Leadership and a partner at talent firm RHR International, he worked directly with hundreds of C-suite senior executives from Fortune 500 companies and with Silicon Valley venture capital firms and their portfolio companies.    Quotes:   “Self-awareness is the single most important tool of your leadership.” “You are the tool of your leadership, so the better you know yourself, the better you lead.” “Your greatest strength becomes a blind spot the moment you overdo it.” “Stress narrows your motives, so you default to survival instead of wise leadership.” “Real change in leaders comes from small tweaks, not dramatic transformation.”    Takeaways:  Name your core strengths, then ask what happens when you are too much of that strength to uncover likely blind spots. Notice when your role has changed but your identity has not and ask if you are still leading like your old job. Pay attention to emotional overreactions after meetings; they are clues to motives or values you may not fully understand. Stop trying to be the smartest person in the room and start asking more questions to draw out the intelligence of your team. Focus on small, intentional behavioral changes rather than chasing a complete personal transformation.    Timestamps:    [00:00] Marcel’s intro: why what used to work in leadership suddenly stops working [02:40] Marty’s story from clinical psychologist to entrepreneur to executive coach  [07:20] The spark behind Blind Spotting and why entrepreneurs reveal raw blind spots  [09:06] Why is it so hard for leaders to see their own blind spots  [11:31] The six blind spot areas and the “target” model are explained  [13:15] Identity blind spots and the pain of transitioning into new roles  [16:12] Traits, emotions, and intellect as hard-to-change parts of our wiring  [20:37] Emotional blind spots, EQ, and using feelings strategically at work  [22:41] Different kinds of intellect and how over-reliance on smarts backfires  [27:49] Motives at the center: power, achievement, affiliation, and values  [32:30] How stress distorts motives and narrows our leadership choices  [33:16] A simple exercise to find blind spots by adding “too” to your strengths  [34:17] Why sustainable growth comes from small behavioral tweaks, not wholesale reinvention  [35:13] Speed round: what makes Marty smile, big life lessons, and hopes for the future  [37:45] Leading with love by accepting yourself and using what you have  [38:16] Final takeaway: start somewhere small and let self-awareness do its work    Conclusion:    This conversation reminds us that leadership is fundamentally an inside job. Blind spots are not signs of failure but evidence that we are human, shaped by patterns, histories, and motives we do not always see. By understanding identity shifts, naming our traits and emotional patterns, and getting honest about what truly drives us, we gain more choice in how we show up. Rather than chasing dramatic transformation, Marty urges leaders to embrace small, focused behavioral changes—asking more questions, listening longer, or dialing down an overused strength. Over time, those small tweaks compound into deeper authenticity, healthier relationships, and more effective, human-centered leadership.    Links/Resources:  Website: https://www.martindubin.com/    Blind Spotting assessment and resources: https://www.blindspotting.com/   Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRZFK8J6?tag=bk00010a-20&th=1&psc=1&geniuslink=true  
Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. Powered by 100% renewable energy and recently named a Denver Broncos Small Business Partner, TerraSlate combines durability with sustainability. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.  Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.    Episode Recap:  In this Love in Action episode, Marcel sits down with neuroscientist and author Dr. Paul Zak to unpack what truly makes us happy—and how love, connection, and neuroscience intersect to create thriving workplaces and healthier lives. Drawing on research from The Little Book of Happiness and his company, Immersion Neuroscience, Zak reveals how happiness isn’t just a feeling—it’s a measurable state shaped by our relationships, daily choices, and leadership behaviors.   Bio:   Paul Zak is a distinguished university professor at Claremont Graduate University. His research has taken him from the Pentagon to Fortune 50 boardrooms to the rainforest of Papua New Guinea. He is ranked among the top 0.3 percent of most cited scientists, with over 200 published research articles. His lab and company, Immersion Neuroscience, help people live longer, happier, and healthier lives.    Quotes:  "Vulnerability is one of the best ways to build bonds with people, whether in your family, your circle of friends, or your professional team and organization. Vulnerability teaches them that you are approachable and that you need others to help you develop answers and embrace feedback." "The more you go in an organization, the more people you lead, the more you become a role model. You're also visible as a role model to people you do not interact with daily, both inside and outside your organization."  "If the map differs from the terrain, go with the terrain. This means assessing the situation in real time, getting inputs from every team member on that special assignment, and making a new plan, which hopefully is a winning plan." Takeaways: ·Reflect on Your Leadership Style: Take 10 minutes to write down how you respond to mistakes and feedback. Are you open to vulnerability, or do you default to defensiveness? Identify one behavior you can adjust to build trust with your team. ·  Build Genuine Connections: Schedule one conversation this week with a team member to learn their personal or professional story. Ask questions that show you care about their perspective and challenges. ·Challenge Long-Held Beliefs: Identify one assumption you rely on when making decisions. Ask yourself, “What if this isn’t true?” and explore how adapting your approach could improve outcomes.  Practice “Fearless Learning”: Pick a recent setback and outline what went wrong without assigning blame. Write down one concrete action to improve your approach next time. Create a Commitment Plan: Draft a one-page outline with three areas to focus on: how you’ll lead yourself, lead your team, and lead your organization. Revisit it regularly to stay aligned with your goals. Timestamps: [00:00] Introduction & Why Happiness Matters [04:00] The Science Behind Social Connection [08:00] Redefining Happiness for Introverts [10:00] The 45 Cardinal Virtues Explained [12:00] The Six App and Measuring Key Moments [17:00] How the Brain Creates Happiness [19:00] Longevity and Social Bonds [20:00] Love vs. Fear in Leadership [24:00] Oxytocin, Trust, and Connection [30:00] Healing Division Through Empathy [33:00] Emotional Fitness and Therapy [36:00] Building Happy, Sustainable Organizations [38:00] Personal Lessons & Reflections [44:00] Leading with Love and Practical Kindness [45:00] Final Takeaways & Resources   Conclusion: To thrive in today’s demanding world, leaders must embrace human-centric leadership. Great leadership starts with self-awareness and a commitment to personal growth. By fostering empathy, encouraging open feedback, and seeing vulnerability as a strength, leaders create environments where teams feel valued and empowered. Practicing fearless learning—letting go of rigid assumptions—enables leaders to adapt and guide their organizations through uncertainty. Ultimately, the most effective leaders prioritize authentic relationships, inclusion, and continuous growth, ensuring their teams can innovate, collaborate, and succeed while building cultures that endure beyond immediate challenges.   Links/Resources: Website: https://www.getimmersion.com/  Download the SIX app here: https://your6.com/  Book: https://a.co/d/9IIYijt  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-j-zak-91123510/
Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.   Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.   Episode recap: In this powerful conversation with Mark C. Crowley, author of Lead from the Heart and The Power of Employee Wellbeing, we discussed the growing realization that employee engagement without well-being is hollow—and how genuine human connection, frequent feedback, and emotional awareness drive real performance.   Other highlights from the episode: Why belonging is the new foundation of well-being. How unresolved trauma shapes leadership—and how awareness leads to healing. Why resilient leaders embrace uncertainty and learn through “two-way doors.” How care and accountability together create workplaces people want to stay in.   Mark’s message is simple but radical: when people feel cared for, they thrive—and so do organizations.   Tune in to explore how leading with heart isn’t soft—it’s smart, strategic, and deeply human.   Guest Bio: With twenty-five years in the competitive financial services industry, Mark C. Crowley rose to national roles, earning Leader of the Year for his emotionally connected, heart-centered approach that drove exceptional performance and employee growth. His book Lead from the Heart (2011, second edition 2023) disrupted conventional management with research proving that traditional methods undermine employee achievement. Now taught in eleven universities, it ignited a global movement for humane leadership. In his new book, The Power of Employee Well-Being, he advances this vision, demonstrating that thriving teams fuel organizational success. Mark’s Lead from the Heart podcast, ranked in the top 1.5 percent globally, reaches 175+ countries.   Quotes: Feelings and emotions drive behavior. Engagement is literally a decision of the heart." "If you don't know yourself, how could you possibly manage other people? You're not well-informed." "Belonging isn't just connection. It's emotional safety, respect, and the freedom to be who you are." "When you make decisions, think about how they'll make people feel. That's what it means to lead with love." "The work experience should not be something people dread. Create a culture where people want to belong."   Key Takeaways Know yourself before you lead others. Reflect on your upbringing and motivations. Hidden childhood influences often shape your leadership habits. Clarify your values. Define what you stand for, and let those values guide every decision—even when it costs you short-term success. Build belonging. Create environments where people feel safe, respected, and accepted for who they are. Lead with love. You don't need to say "I love you" at work. You show it by caring about how people feel and treating them with kindness. Embrace uncertainty. Replace fear with curiosity and experimentation—model calm confidence during change.   Timestamps [00:02] The failure of the engagement industry [02:29] Mark's return to the show and his new book, The Power of Employee Well-Being [02:52] A childhood without love shaped a new kind of leadership philosophy [07:13] The evolution of "heart-based" leadership and why it's now mainstream [10:59] Why engagement hasn't improved in 12 years—and how companies got it wrong [16:51] Moving from engagement to well-being as a leadership priority [17:23] The first key drivers of well-being: Know thyself and know thy values [24:03] Why values matter more than performance—and the courage to protect culture [27:15] The most significant driver of well-being: Belonging and emotional safety [30:41] How to lead through uncertainty with confidence and hope [37:04] The link between childhood wounds and leadership behavior [41:52] Why workplace change is inevitable—and how well-being is the future [48:56] How to lead with actionable love every day [51:17] Why work should never be something people dread [53:13] Where to connect with Mark and explore his work   Conclusion: Mark C. Crowley's message is clear: the future of leadership depends on humanity. Employee engagement may have stalled, but well-being is the key to unlocking performance, retention, and innovation. When leaders know themselves, honor their values, and build genuine belonging, they create workplaces where people thrive. Leading with love isn't soft—it's strategic.   Links/Resources:  Website – https://markccrowley.com/ Book - https://www.amazon.com/Power-Employee-Well-Being-Engagement-Flourishing/dp/B0DRXGD4YK/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markccrowley/ Podcast - https://markccrowley.com/podcasts/ Thank You!  
Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. Powered by 100% renewable energy and recently named a Denver Broncos Small Business Partner, TerraSlate combines durability with sustainability. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.    Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.    Episode recap:  In this Love in Action podcast episode, guest Ed Frauenheim discusses the concept of "confined masculinity"—the traditional view that men must be stoic, dominant, and self-reliant—which often leads to emotional suppression, poor relationships, and health issues. Ed shares his personal experiences, including a mild heart attack and a cancer diagnosis, as moments that forced him to reevaluate his own masculinity. He and co-author Ed Adams propose "liberating masculinity" as an alternative—one that embraces compassion, emotional expression, connection, and vulnerability. Their book, Reinventing Masculinity, outlines how this new model can lead to better well-being, stronger relationships, and more effective leadership. The conversation emphasizes that healthy masculinity is about balance—integrating both traditionally “masculine” and “feminine” traits. It’s not about rejecting strength, but expanding what strength means.    Guest Bio: Ed Frauenheim is a soulful storyteller, a writer, speaker, and consultant who has focused on workplace, technology, and culture matters for more than 25 years. His stories have been featured in USA Today, Harvard Business Review, and Fortune. Ed spent six years as director of content at Great Place to Work, the global consultancy that produces the annual Fortune 100 Best Companies to Work For list. His co-written book, Reinventing Masculinity, outlines the way to better well-being, stronger relationships, and more effective leadership.   Quotes  “Winning isn’t everything.”  “We’re told to be tough all the time. The truth is, we need to be tough and tender.”  “Clear courage today is emotional: naming pain, asking for help, and saying ‘I love you, man.’”  “Curiosity turns know-it-alls into learn-it-alls.”  “Liberating masculinity lets a man truly love—in every sense of the word.”    Takeaways  Name the trap. Confined masculinity prizes stoicism, domination, and lone-wolf myths; it shortens lives and weakens teams.  Practice the Five C’s.  Curiosity: Ask more, assume less.  Compassion: Start with self-kindness; pain is human, not a personal failure.  Connection: Men need men—find healthy brotherhood (walk-and-talks, groups, circles).  Courage: Include emotional and moral courage (own privilege, apologize, seek help).  Commitment: Build weekly habits (journaling, check-ins) so change sticks.  + Contemplation (BONUS): Prayer/meditation to return to your best self.   Lead with both/and. Tough-minded on standards; tender-hearted with people.  Model vulnerability. Leaders who share struggles (mental health, setbacks) unlock trust and performance.  Redesign rewards. Promote for humility, empathy, and learning—not just charisma and conquest.    Timestamps  [00:00] Marcel’s intro + why masculinity matters now  [04:00] Ed’s story: success on paper, struggle inside  [07:00] Health wake-ups: heart attack, cancer—and choosing help  [09:30] Defining confined masculinity (stoic, self-made, self-sacrificing)  [13:30] How we got here: history, culture, and alternatives  [18:00] The antidote: liberating masculinity & the Five C’s  [22:00] Self-compassion vs. self-pity; Kristen Neff’s insights  [27:00] Connection without shame: men’s groups that work  [31:00] “Tough & tender” leadership in action (ski industry example)  [36:00] Curiosity: from know-it-all to learn-it-all  [38:30] Role models at the top: soulful leadership that performs  [41:00] Homework: journal, join a men’s group, contemplation  [44:00] Women & promotion: why the wrong traits get rewarded—and how to fix it  [48:00] Faith in men: most guys are more supportive than we think  [50:30] Leading with love: start by listening  [51:30] Final takeaway: fuller lives are possible—for all of us    Conclusion: Ed Frauenheim’s story reminds us that true strength isn’t found in silence or self-reliance but in the courage to connect, feel, and grow. By embracing “liberating masculinity,” men can lead with both toughness and tenderness—creating healthier families, stronger teams, and more compassionate workplaces. Leadership rooted in love and curiosity fosters trust, innovation, and long-term success. As Ed’s journey shows, self-compassion and connection are not signs of weakness but pathways to wholeness. The future belongs to men who have the courage to lead with heart.   Links / Resources  Book: Reinventing Masculinity: The Liberating Power of Compassion and Connection (Ed Frauenheim & Ed Adams): https://a.co/d/clezbvM   Connect with Ed on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-frauenheim-685294/  Website – https://www.edfrauenheim.com/   Substack (Ed’s Cancer Journey) - https://frauentimes.substack.com/  
Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. Powered by 100% renewable energy and recently named a Denver Broncos Small Business Partner, TerraSlate combines durability with sustainability. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.  Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.    Marcel sits down with Kyle Ewing, CEO and founder of TerraSlate, a two-time Inc. 5000 honoree known for creating waterproof paper used by top restaurants and NFL teams. Kyle shares his journey from Olympic-level skiing to entrepreneurship and building multiple companies. He shares how his Inverted Pyramid Leadership model—where leaders serve their teams—drives TerraSlate’s success. He breaks down core values of grit, growth, focus, and candor, his “buy back your time” principle for scaling, and his Business Navigator Operating System for helping founders start and scale their businesses. Kyle also explores using AI as a “co-CEO”, documenting systems, and leading with clarity, kindness, and accountability.    Kyle Ewing is the CEO and Founder of TerraSlate. Under his leadership, TerraSlate has been featured in Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, the Denver Post, and NPR, and twice named to the Inc. 5000 list of fastest-growing private companies. Beyond TerraSlate, Kyle also founded Big Island Honey, Windward Equity, and Cube Dynamics, and invests in Sustainability Partners to advance eco-conscious innovation. He blends business acumen with heart-centered leadership, reminding us that leading with love unlocks true potential. Kyle has been recognized with Business Elite’s “40 Under 40” and as a two-time Titan 100 award winner in Colorado.    Quotes  “Leading with love is doing the hard thing, not the easy thing.”  “Don’t delegate the task, delegate the outcome—and always state the why.”  “Clear is kind. The worst thing you can do to someone is delay feedback.”  “Culture isn’t soft. It’s the system that scales your company.”  “If someone else can do it for less than your hourly rate, delegate it right now.”  “AI doesn’t replace you. It replicates your thinking so your people can lead without fear.”    Takeaways  Flip the leadership pyramid: serve your team so they can serve your customers.  Document everything. Systems free people to lead with humanity. Delegate outcomes, not tasks, and always explain the purpose.  Build a “Co-CEO” AI system to preserve your company’s institutional knowledge.   Timestamps:  [00:00] Welcome and intro to Kyle Ewing  [03:00] From Olympic trials to business rebirth  [06:00] The origin of TerraSlate and waterproof paper  [10:00] Redefining leadership through service and empathy  [14:50] The four values driving TerraSlate’s success  [21:30] The art of delegation and owning the outcome  [26:30] Time hacking and the buyback rate  [29:30] Building a “Co-CEO” using AI  [33:00] Speed round: lessons, decompression, and legacy  [35:00] How to lead with love and practical kindness  [37:50] Why true networking happens in service, not events  [39:10] Closing: scaling business with heart    Links/Resources:  Website: kyleewing.com TerraSlate: terraslate.com Instagram: @kyleewingofficial LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kyleewing     
Episode recap:  In this episode, Marcel sits down with Wes Adams and Tamara Myles, co-authors of A Meaningful Work, to explore what truly makes work meaningful in the age of AI. Drawing from positive psychology and organizational research, they unpack how leaders can move beyond removing obstacles and instead foster environments of high well-being, challenge, contribution, and connection. They highlight the role of positive, timely feedback in reinforcing meaningful contributions and show how challenge, paired with strong support, creates a “zone of possibility” where people thrive. Together, they make the case that meaningful work is a business imperative. Listeners will walk away with actionable ways to spark purpose and connection in their own workplaces.  Guest Bio: Wes Adams, CEO of SV Consulting Group, partners with Fortune 500s and growing companies to develop leaders and create effective structures for high-performing teams. He researches positive psychology at the University of Pennsylvania, focusing on leadership practices that help employees thrive.  Tamara Myles is a speaker, author, professor, and entrepreneur focused on human flourishing at work. She helps leaders and organizations like Microsoft, KPMG, and MassMutual unlock meaningful work to boost performance, innovation, and resilience. As faculty at Boston College and at the University of Pennsylvania, her work shows that meaningful work leads to thriving teams and lasting impact. Quotes  “Leaders are responsible for almost half of each individual’s experience of meaning at work.”    “Community says, I matter here.”       Takeaways  Leaders must intentionally foster community, contribution, and challenge to create meaningful work.   Simple practices—like synchronized breaks, positive feedback, and development conversations—can transform team culture.   Timestamps [00:00] Marcel’s introduction: why meaningful work matters in today’s world    [04:19] Tamara’s personal story: what makes work meaningful (or not)    [06:26] Wes’s journey: purpose-driven work isn’t always meaningful    [09:33] Defining meaningful work and debunking misconceptions    [12:41] Has the meaning of work changed post-pandemic?    [23:43] Research on social connection and productivity    [28:22] The “friendship effect” and overcoming challenges together    [28:31] Contribution—understanding impact and purpose at work    [52:21] The power of saying “thank you” and recognizing others  Conclusion  Wes Adams and Tamara Myles make it clear: meaningful work is not about what you do, but how you experience it—and leaders play a pivotal role in shaping that experience. By focusing on community, contribution, and challenge, and by practicing care, feedback, and support, leaders can ignite passion and performance in every employee. The call to action is simple: start today, with small steps, to make work more meaningful for your team and yourself. The ripple effects can transform not just organizations, but lives.  Links Mentioned  Book: https://www.amazon.com/Meaningful-Work-Passion-Performance-Employee/dp/1541704533  Website: https://www.makeworkmeaningful.com/   Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap:  Marcel sits down with Kimberly Davis, actor-turned-leadership coach and author of Brave Leadership. They explore her journey from the stage to coaching leaders worldwide, redefining what bravery means at work, and why authenticity and vulnerability matter more than ever. Kimberly shares strategies for courageous conversations, lessons from her TED talk, and her vision of helping 1 million people uncover their “super objective.” Along the way, you’ll learn how to focus on impact and bring more courage into your leadership.  Guest Bio: Kimberly Davis is the founder and author of Brave Leadership, where she champions emerging leaders and senior managers navigating today’s workplace. She shares her inspirational message of personal power, responsibility, and impact with organizations across the country and teaches leadership programs worldwide. Kimberly is Adjunct Faculty for Southern Methodist University’s Cox School of Business’ Executive Education Program. She’s also a TEDx speaker, and her book, Brave Leadership, named among Inc. Magazine's most impactful books, became an Amazon bestseller in Business Leadership and Motivation, and received the Benjamin Franklin Silver Award for Business and Career.  Quotes:  "Bravery is not the absence of fear—it’s the choice to move forward in spite of it."  "Authenticity isn’t about oversharing; it’s about aligning your actions with who you truly are."  "The leaders who will thrive in this new world are those who dare to connect, even when it feels uncomfortable."  Takeaways:  Stop trying to be the “perfect” leader—focus instead on being present and authentic.  Bravery is a practice: small, consistent choices to act with clarity and courage.  Connection is leadership currency—without it, influence falls flat.  Fear is natural, but it doesn’t have to run the show.  Leading bravely isn’t about heroics; it’s about showing up as your best, real self.  Timestamps:  [00:00] Welcome and introduction [01:07] Introducing Kimberly Davis and Brave Leadership [03:11] Kimberly's Journey from Acting to Leadership Training [07:19] From Onstage Leadership to Brave Leadership [12:36] Defining Brave Leadership in Today's World [17:36] Special Launch Announcement [22:21] Collaborative Leadership and Global Change [25:17] Authenticity in Leadership [26:32] Defining Authenticity in Leadership [27:53] The Role of Vulnerability in Leadership [29:02] Navigating Personal Vulnerability [30:38] Impact of Vulnerability on Leadership [44:07] Creating a Culture of Courage [46:23] Speed Round and Final Thoughts Conclusion:  Leadership today isn’t about following old scripts—it’s about writing a new one rooted in bravery and authenticity. Kimberly Davis reminds us that the leaders who will thrive in uncertain times are those who show up with courage, presence, and connection. By practicing bravery in small, intentional ways, we not only inspire others but also unlock our own potential to lead with impact.  Links: Now Be Brave - https://nowbebrave.com/ Website - https://brave-leadership.com/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Brave-Leadership-Confident-Powerful-Authentic-ebook/dp/B077ZH91TG?ref_=ast_author_dp  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlydavisonst Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap:  Today’s guest is Margaret Morre, MBA, co-author of The Science of Leadership: Nine Ways to Expand Your Impact. Margaret and Marcel discussed the translation of scientific research into practical leadership practices and the nine key leadership capacities. They explored concepts such as conscious leadership, mindfulness, and the "quiet ego," while examining specific leadership qualities and the importance of maintaining healthy relationships and fostering forgiveness in the workplace. The discussion concluded with conversations about shared leadership, the role of AI in leadership development, and the concept of love as an action in leadership contexts.  Bio: Margaret Moore, MBA, blends leadership, coaching, and science, including thirty years in C-suite roles, co-leading four successful start-ups in biotechnology and coaching, and two decades of professional coaching and coach training. For 25 years, she has been a prolific translator of science into coaching, training, and leadership practice. Margaret's vision for this book is to help bring scientists, leaders, and coaches together to foster leadership excellence and support everyday leaders far and wide. Quotes:  "Leadership is the highest expression of human endeavor. It’s a calling, a legacy."  "The more whole you are, the more you feel like you’re flying instead of trudging uphill."  "A relationship is a cycle of back and forth, empathy and compassion. The more relational leaders are, the more they can be influential."    Takeaways:  Reflect on your leadership: Are you developing capacities at the self, relational, and systemic levels?  Practice conscious leadership by cultivating presence and integrating your fears into strengths.  Build trust and influence by focusing on relationships, empathy, and forgiveness—not just transactions.  Embrace shared leadership by engaging people at all levels in vision, strategy, and implementation.  Take responsibility for shaping technology (like AI) with intention, values, and accountability.  Pause regularly to assess what your team or organization needs—compassion, agility, or a new perspective.    Timestamps:  [00:00] Introduction and the cost of poor leadership    [00:04] The science behind effective leadership    [03:43] Margaret Moore’s background and approach to translating research    [10:00] The nine leadership capacities and their organization    [12:41] Self, other, and systems-oriented leadership    [13:21] Conscious leadership and the quiet ego    [18:07] Example of conscious leadership: Astronaut Sunita Williams    [20:23] Relational leadership and the importance of trust    [34:21] The rise of AI and the need for responsible leadership    [40:07] Leading with love and values    [43:07] The power of pausing and choosing the right leadership approach    [44:48] Closing thoughts and resources  Conclusion:  Strong leadership today requires a blend of self-awareness, relational intelligence, and systemic thinking. Moving beyond rigid, top-down models allows leaders to create cultures of trust, meaning, and adaptability. The most effective leaders are those who continually grow, model their values, and choose the right approach for each moment. Real change starts with those who lead by example, shaping not just organizations, but the future of leadership itself.  Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap:  Marcel and Josh explored the intersection of healthcare, leadership, and well-being, drawing on Josh’s experience as a physician and retired army colonel. They discussed the transition from clinical practice to leadership development, the importance of compassionate leadership, and the need for consistent, evidence-based approaches to improve both staff retention and patient outcomes. Themes included self-awareness, aligning leadership with personal values, listening deeply, and shaping culture intentionally. Josh emphasized making a business case for investing in healthcare worker well-being and caring for teams as a core leadership responsibility. The conversation also touched on humility, resilience, unity, and lifelong learning, with Josh sharing insights from his book A Prescription for Caring in Healthcare Leadership and personal reflections on resilience, humor, and values. Bio: Joshua D. Hartzell, MD, MS-HPEd, FACP, FIDSA, is a retired Army Colonel who spent 25 years in military medicine. He deployed as a Battalion Surgeon with the 82nd Airborne Division to Afghanistan. Dr. Hartzell has held numerous leadership positions throughout his career, including being Program Director for the Internal Medicine Residency and Assistant Chief of Graduate Medical Education at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center and Assistant Dean for Faculty Development at the Uniformed Services University. Dr. Hartzell is also a faculty member at the MGH Institute of Health Professions, where he teaches leadership development. A practicing Internal Medicine and Infectious Diseases Physician, he has devoted the last decade to developing leaders, training and teaching thousands of students, residents, and faculty within healthcare.  Quotes  “If we can improve leadership, that’s not only going to improve the lives of the people providing the care, it’s going to improve patient care.”  “Listening is your bridge to growth as an individual and as an organization.”   Takeaways  Make leadership development a priority in healthcare education and organizations.  Practice evidence-based self-care to lead with clarity and resilience.  Anchor decisions in values and balance care with accountability.  Timestamp  [00:00] Marcel’s personal story of toxic leadership in healthcare  [04:30] Dr. Hartzell’s military and medical background  [16:20] Burnout, turnover, and the cost of poor leadership  [20:15] Leadership training in medicine today  [42:10] The role of feedback in shaping culture  [47:25] Building a caring culture for the future of healthcare  Conclusion  Dr. Joshua Hartzell makes it clear that healthcare doesn’t have a medical problem, it has a leadership problem. Developing leaders who care deeply for their people is not optional, it is essential for patient safety, staff well-being, and long-term organizational health. His call is simple but urgent: invest in leadership early, practice self-care as a foundation, and create cultures where listening and accountability thrive. The future of healthcare depends on leaders who choose to care.    Links Mentioned  Dr. Joshua Hartzell on LinkedIn  A Prescription for Caring in Healthcare Leadership (Amazon, Barnes & Noble, major booksellers)  Marcel Schwantes’ website:  marcelschwantes.com Website - https://joshuahartzellmd.com/    Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap:  Marcel and Kelly discussed the importance of love and compassion in leadership and the workplace, emphasizing how caring environments enhance performance and reduce turnover. Kelly shared her personal journey and experiences leading self-directed organizations, highlighting the benefits of treating employees as adults and activating their free will. They explored the shift from traditional leadership models to a more collaborative, coaching-based approach, where leaders focus on empowering and supporting others. Marcel and Kelly agreed that building a workplace culture centered on love and care not only benefits employees but also leads to better organizational outcomes and profitability. Marcel and Kelly also discussed the evolving landscape of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace. Kelly shared her personal experiences and insights, emphasizing that DEI is not about politics but about performance and participation. Guest Bio: Kelly Winegarden Hall is a leadership expert and business strategist who helps individuals and organizations move from surviving to thriving. As the founder of Live L.A.R.G.E., she brings 30 years of experience leading diverse teams and transforming struggling businesses into high-performing, self-directing organizations. Her new book is Love Works: Transforming the Workplace with Purpose and Authenticity.  Quotes  “When you start activating people’s free will and they know your hand is on their back, you will make more money. Your projects will happen faster, and those results are more sustainable over time.”  “Inclusion isn’t about being cozy, it’s about being yourself and being supported in doing so. Fierce inclusion means mastering trust and supporting people even when they fail.”    Takeaways  Treat people like adults: ask more questions than you give orders.  Shift from delegation to enrollment, activate free will, not subordination.  Build psychological safety so trauma and life challenges don’t derail performance.  Timestamps  [04:30] Kelly Hall’s story  [06:40] Why love at work  [13:30] From commanders to coaches  [18:30] The LIVE LARGE model  [24:30] The pinnacle of power  [36:45] Communicating with love  [39:50] Advice for CEOs  [51:00] Final reflections  Conclusion  Leading with love may sound unconventional in business, but it’s one of the most powerful ways to build trust, loyalty, and sustainable success. When leaders choose compassion over control and connection over command, they create environments where people feel safe to contribute their best. Love in leadership isn’t about being soft, it’s about being courageous enough to see people as whole human beings. In a time when workplaces are filled with stress and disconnection, choosing love can transform teams, strengthen culture, and unlock results that last.  Links/Resources  Website - Kellywinegardenhall.com LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-hall-0a23a11/ Love Works Book: https://www.amazon.com/Love-Works-Transforming-Workplace-Authenticity/dp/1964508282  The Empowerment Dynamic  https://www.amazon.com/POWER-TED-EMPOWERMENT-DYNAMIC-Anniversary/dp/0996871802  Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap: This episode featured Garry Ridge, former CEO and Chairman of WD-40, who shared his personal journey and philosophy on creating safe, valued, and connected workplaces. As a true Servant Leader, Garry discussed the people-focused strategies that propelled WD-40 to have one of the highest employee retention rates in the world. Marcel and Garry covered topics such as leadership development, psychological safety, and the importance of building and maintaining a strong organizational culture through consistent effort and learning moments. Guest Bio: As CEO and Chairman of WD-40 Company for 25 years, Garry Ridge built one of the world’s most recognized brands by prioritizing trust, respect, and people-centric leadership. Now, as The Culture Coach, Garry helps leaders create workplaces where people feel valued and inspired. Through The Learning Moment, he partners with executives to build cultures of collaboration and purpose-driven performance. His latest book, USA Today's Best Seller, Any Dumb-Ass Can Do It, reinforces his belief that great leadership is simple—but not easy. Known as The Dean of Dumbassery, Garry champions “learning moments,” encouraging leaders to turn mistakes into growth opportunities. His core philosophy: when people feel safe, valued, and connected, they do their best work—and go home happy, strengthening families, communities, and the world. Timestamp [00:03] Introduction of Garry Ridge [04:40] Garry’s personal journey [06:58] The meaning behind the book title [10:07] Discovering servant leadership [14:58] Handling resistance to culture change [17:45] Creating psychological safety [20:27] The four pillars of a fearless tribe [23:38] The role of a leader [27:21] A memorable story from Wall Street [30:40] Protecting culture at all costs [31:05] Why WD-40’s employee retention soared Quotes “The three most powerful words a leader can say are: I don’t know.”  “Fear is the opposite of safety. We don’t make mistakes, we have learning moments.”  “Care is not about ping pong tables. It’s about helping people become the best version of themselves.”  “A leader’s job is to coach, not to take the bat and hit the ball.”  “Life’s a gift. Don’t send it back unwrapped.”  Takeaways Replace mistakes with “learning moments” to reduce fear and encourage innovation.  Build culture with care, candor, accountability, and responsibility not perks or slogans.  Protect your culture by removing toxins, even if they are high performers.  Lead as a coach: your job is to bring out the best in others, not to prove you’re the smartest.  Conclusion This conversation with Garry Ridge proves that culture is not a soft, secondary issue, it is the hardest, most important work of leadership. From turning mistakes into learning moments to protecting culture from toxins, Garry’s insights highlight how leaders can build organizations where people thrive and results follow. Remember his parting words: life is a gift, don’t send it back unwrapped. If you want more stories and tools from Garry, connect with him on LinkedIn or visit thelearningmoment.net.  Website - http://www.thelearningmoment.net/   LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/garryridge/  Send Marcel a text message! Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap: Uncertainty is where true leadership is tested. In this episode, host Marcel Schwantes reveals why courage—not clarity—is the skill leaders need most today. You’ll learn five practical ways to build courage: reframe fear, grow confidence, take bold steps forward, lean on allies, and stay calm under pressure. With real stories from coaching sessions and powerful leadership examples, Marcel shows how you can stop waiting for certainty and start creating it—so you can inspire trust, lead with confidence, and drive transformation when it matters most. To  dig deeper into a strategy-based discussion about building up more courage in your or your team’s leadership, book your free, 30-minute discovery call with Marcel here: https://calendly.com/marcelschwantes/discovery-call?month=2025-08  Bio: Marcel Schwantes is a speaker, author, and acclaimed executive coach with a global following. Marcel delivers presentations, workshops, courses, and coaching programs about the human side of business and how cultures of care,  connection, and belonging power companies to thrive and outperform the competition.  Quotes: "Courageous leaders don't wait for clarity—they create it."  "Courage doesn't mean you're fearless. It means you move forward with the fear because there's something bigger at stake."  "Confidence isn't magic—you have to build it. And the way to build it is through building your competence, because competence leads to better confidence."  Takeaways: Reframe your inner narrative during uncertainty by asking yourself what bigger opportunity or mission might be present.  Practice and role-play challenging scenarios to build real confidence and readiness for tough moments.  Take the next small step forward, even if you can’t see the whole path ahead.    Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction: Facing Uncertainty  01:02 The Importance of Courage in Leadership  02:14 Reframing Fear Through Story  03:38 Building Confidence Deliberately  05:52 Taking Action, Even Small Steps  07:04 Relying on Others for Support  08:21 Staying Calm Amidst Fear  09:46 Conclusion: Embracing Uncertainty    Conclusion: Courage in leadership grows through practice, reflection, and a willingness to approach challenges with steady effort. It is not about the absence of fear, but about learning to move forward despite it by taking consistent, manageable steps. Leaders who remain composed and thoughtful in uncertain times are better able to guide their teams with clear direction. In doing so, they create trust and inspire others to stay committed, even when the path ahead is difficult.   Links/Resources: The book: https://www.amazon.com/Humane-Leadership-Lead-Radical-Kick-Ass-ebook/dp/B0CWG3PTL4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2GGNRCK8IGE9Q&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MCvZounR42KoYlj36JrVeA.2nq6uw7LgXy_UsUHEJQmdFVO7jH4RVjNEKdZp75F-rk&dib_tag=se&keywords=ISBN+9781637427828&qid=1732028248&sprefix=isbn+9781637427828%2Caps%2C153&sr=8-1 Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/ Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes YouTube: https://youtube.com/@MarcelSchwantes1 Instagram: https://instagram.com/marcel.schwan Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap: Marcel featured Danielle McGeough, Ph.D, an award-winning professor and transformation strategist, who shared her personal journey and expertise in helping individuals achieve balance through her Rise Ritual method. The discussion explored causes and solutions for workplace burnout, the importance of personal rituals and mindfulness, and strategies for maintaining presence and intentionality in leadership, concluding with recommendations for listeners to create their own personal rituals. Bio: Danielle McGeough, Ph.D. is an award-winning professor, transformation strategist, and host of the top 1.5% podcast Plan Goal Plan. She helps high-performing women and teams bridge the gap between intention and action through her RISE Ritual Method. Danielle blends research, identity work, and intentional planning to help ambitious people feel bold at work and present at home.  Quotes:  "I help people and teams operate in alignment. I help them do it in a way that really connects them to their values and to their mission."  "If you are someone who feels like you are living on autopilot, more habits aren't going to help you, because habits are designed with the intention to eventually become unconscious."  "When individuals can operate from a space of well-being, the impact we can have on the collective is so much stronger—but the collective work has to happen."    Takeaways:  Reflect on whether you’re experiencing burnout, demoralization, or just feeling stuck, and name it clearly to better address it.  Start each day by asking yourself which three things would make you feel satisfied by the end of the day.  Design a short personal ritual that helps you shift into your desired state, using sensory cues like a cozy blanket or a candle.  Before meetings or stressful moments, pause for a deep breath and set an intention for how you want to show up.    Timestamps:  [00:00] Welcome and Introduction  [03:16] Introducing Danielle McGeough  [06:42] Helping People and Teams Work in Alignment  [15:26] Why Policy Decisions Shape Workplace Culture  [17:43] The RISE Ritual Method Explained  [20:10] Designing Rituals for Desired States  [22:52] Micro Rituals That Shift Your Daily Presence  [26:36] Rethinking the Myth of Work Life Balance  [34:51] Final Invitation to Create Your Own Ritual  [35:57] Where to Connect with Danielle     Conclusion:  Focus isn’t a fixed trait—it’s a skill that can be built with practice, even in a world full of distractions. People who achieve meaningful results often do so by creating clear systems that help them avoid busywork and stay centered on what matters most. Learning to say "no" to lesser tasks makes space for bigger, more important progress. And it doesn’t require massive effort—starting with just a minute each day can lead to lasting improvement. Small, steady actions often make the biggest difference.    Links/Resources:  Website: https://www.plangoalplan.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61567778897663  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-mcgeough-phd-b673334  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/plangoalplan Send Marcel a text message!
Episode recap:  Marcel explored the servant leadership principles and practices of shared leadership and decision. He presented a case study about former U.S. Navy Captain David Marquet's successful transformation of a submarine crew by shifting to a leader-leader model that empowered team members to make decisions. Marcel emphasized the importance of competence and clarity when sharing leadership, while challenging the audience to consider how they can empower others to lead and offered follow-up discussions.  To  dig deeper into a strategy-based discussion about shared leadership, book your free, 30-minute discovery call with Marcel here:  https://calendly.com/marcelschwantes/discovery-call?month=2025-08  Bio: Marcel Schwantes is a speaker, author, and acclaimed executive coach with a global following. Marcel delivers presentations, workshops, courses, and coaching programs about the human side of business and how cultures of care, connection, and belonging power companies to thrive and outperform the competition. Quotes:  "Leaders sometimes push people like cattle, and a lot of companies still operate this way, right? But if you think about it, cattle have no say. They're herded in one direction, pushed to where the cattle rancher wants them to go. And honestly, that's not very empowering."  "When you share leadership, you're not losing control. You're actually multiplying it. You're creating leaders at every level, and when people feel ownership, engagement and performance will go through the roof for you."  "That's the power of releasing control—it turns employees into owners, and owners don't need to be driven. They lead themselves." Key Takeaways: Ask “What would you do?” instead of issuing commands to invite insight and autonomy. Make your strategy meetings collaborative—let team members help shape direction. Identify areas in your org chart where decision-making can move closer to frontline work. Delegate leadership intentionally—challenge yourself to let one team member lead this week. Episode Highlights: [00:00] Welcome and Introduction [02:22] Why Driving Results Isn’t Real Leadership [04:12] Sharing Power with Intention [06:40] Leading Without Pulling Rank [08:19] How Pushing Authority Down Unlocks Performance [10:41] Why Clarity Must Come Before Delegation [12:03] 3 Ways to Start Sharing Leadership This Week [13:39] Final Challenge: Step Back So Others Can Step Up Conclusion: True leadership isn’t about control—it’s about multiplying influence through trust. Empowering those closest to the work results in quicker decisions, stronger performance, and more engaged teams. Great leaders create clarity, offer support, and step aside so others can lead. Resources: Book: Humane Leadership Substack LinkedIn X/Twitter YouTube Send Marcel a text message!
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liked! Difficult Times The most learning happens during difficult times.

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