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Episode Summary In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with Pramod B. Raheja, aerospace engineer, entrepreneur, and CEO of Airgility, to explore the rapidly evolving world of autonomous drones and aerial robotics. From flying drones through doorways in GPS-denied environments to redefining what autonomy really means on the battlefield and in public safety, this conversation dives deep into the intersection of AI, robotics, defense, and logistics. Pramod shares how Airgility pivoted from cargo drones to cutting-edge autonomy, why edge computing is the real differentiator, and how future drone operators will manage systems—not fly them. If you’re interested in autonomy, AI at the edge, drone warfare, first responder tech, BVLOS, or the future of logistics, this episode delivers a rare, ground-truth perspective from someone building it today. 🚀 Episode Highlights Why autonomy—not hardware—is the real “killer app” in drones How Airgility achieved Level 4 autonomy in GPS-denied environments Flying drones through doors without human pilots Sensor fusion: LiDAR vs vision and why hybrid systems win Edge AI and real-time decision-making in life-or-death scenarios ⏱️ Key Points & Timestamps [00:00:00] – A breakthrough moment: flying a drone autonomously through a doorway [00:02:57] – What Airgility is and how it differs from traditional drone companies [00:04:25] – Pivot from cargo drones to autonomy-driven public safety missions [00:06:18] – Drones as first responders in dirty, dark, and dangerous environments [00:08:29] – Designing drones small enough to fit through doors [00:10:30] – Why GPS fails indoors and how drones must sense the environment [00:11:03] – Thrust vectoring vs helicopter-style designs [00:12:07] – Turning the drone into its own gimbal to reduce complexity [00:13:03] – Reducing crew size with autonomy and AI [00:14:49] – Level 4 autonomy and the importance of sensor fusion [00:16:10] – LiDAR vs vision: lessons from self-driving cars [00:17:42] – The challenge of turning massive sensor data into usable insight [00:19:20] – Why Airgility focuses on real-time edge computing [00:21:03] – AI object recognition and on-board decision-making [00:22:14] – Ethical questions around autonomous action [00:23:55] – The hardest engineering problem: collision avoidance [00:26:13] – Maintaining comms in interference-heavy environments [00:27:48] – Modular, attritable “Lego-style” drones and payloads [00:29:05] – Navy logistics insight: 96% of CASREP parts under 5 lbs [00:30:08] – Tactical resupply drones lifting up to 100 lbs [00:31:42] – Partnerships, collaboration, and growth opportunities [00:33:16] – What autonomy makes obsolete: the traditional drone pilot 👤 Guest Bio: Pramod B. Raheja Pramod B. Raheja is an aerospace engineer, entrepreneur, and the CEO of Airgility, a company focused on autonomous aerial robotics for defense, public safety, and logistics missions. With over 30 years of experience in aerospace and robotics, Pramod holds advanced training from MIT’s Founder’s Institute and is an alumnus of the University of Maryland. He has led Airgility through multiple pivots—from cargo drones to highly autonomous platforms capable of operating in GPS-denied, complex environments. Pramod’s work sits at the leading edge of AI, autonomy, LiDAR-based navigation, and edge computing, helping redefine how drones operate in both military and civilian applications. About Airgility Airgility is an innovative aerospace technology company focused on building advanced autonomous aerial robotic systems that can operate in environments where traditional GPS-based drones cannot. Their unmanned aerial systems (UAS) combine AI, machine learning, and onboard autonomy to navigate confined and GPS-denied spaces — allowing missions such as search & rescue, public safety operations, defensive reconnaissance, and delivery of critical supplies to be executed with high levels of autonomy and minimal human input.  The company’s platforms leverage sensor fusion, advanced autonomy algorithms, and robust VTOL designs to tackle missions that are too complex or risky for manually piloted drones — enabling real-time perception, obstacle avoidance, and intelligent decision-making at the edge.  Founded in 2017 and based in College Park, Maryland, Airgility’s work spans defense, security, emergency response, and commercial applications.  💬 Notable Quotes “Our emphasis is on how do you turn that drone into a robot.” “The secret sauce is really in the algorithms.” “Later doesn’t work when people’s lives are on the line.” “Engineering is a series of trade-offs.” “The future operator is not a pilot—they’re a manager of systems.” “There is no one-size-fits-all drone.” “The faster you iterate, the faster you get to something usable.”

In this fast-paced lightning round, Jeremy Schneiderman, CEO and Founder of Drone Nerds, joins host John Ramstead to unpack some of the most critical shifts happening in the drone and UAS industry today. From the transformative power of BVLOS (Beyond Visual Line of Sight) operations to the rapid evolution of drone-in-a-box systems, Jeremy shares practical insights on how automation, regulation, and domestic manufacturing are reshaping what’s possible with drones. Listeners also get a behind-the-scenes look at what has fueled Drone Nerds’ rise as a national leader—its people-first culture, deep vendor relationships, and mission to be the “easy button” for scalable drone programs. The conversation wraps with a lighter, personal touch, exploring team culture, leadership philosophy, and Jeremy’s lifelong love of baseball. This episode is a must-listen for drone professionals, enterprise operators, and anyone tracking the future of unmanned systems. 🚀 Episode Highlights Why BVLOS is the single biggest unlock for scaling drone operations How remote operations and automation are changing enterprise drone programs The three core strengths behind Drone Nerds’ national success What increased U.S. defense spending means for the UAV industry A look at breakthrough tech, including pressure and soft wash drones Why drone-in-a-box solutions are on the brink of widespread adoption Growing momentum and capability among U.S.-based drone manufacturers How Drone Nerds maintains a strong culture in a fully distributed team A personal conversation about leadership, family, and baseball fandom ⏱️ Key Points & Timestamps [00:00:09] Why BVLOS is one of the most important topics in UAS today [00:00:24] How BVLOS enables remote operations, automation, and multi-drone flights [00:00:44] The three strengths that have driven Drone Nerds’ success [00:02:06] The outlook on U.S. defense spending and its impact on UAV markets [00:02:54] A game-changing pressure and soft wash drone launch [00:03:25] What “drone in a box” really means and why adoption is accelerating [00:04:23] Why domestic drone manufacturers are gaining momentum [00:05:15] How Drone Nerds builds culture with a remote, distributed workforce [00:06:11] Jeremy’s lifelong connection to baseball and family traditions 👤 Guest Bio: Jeremy Schneiderman Jeremy Schneiderman is the CEO and Founder of Drone Nerds, one of the largest and most respected drone solution providers in the United States. Under his leadership, Drone Nerds has become a trusted authority across multiple industries by combining deep technical expertise, strong vendor partnerships, and a customer-first approach. Jeremy is passionate about building scalable drone programs, fostering strong organizational culture, and helping customers adopt emerging technologies with confidence. Outside of work, he’s a lifelong baseball fan, former player, and dedicated coach—bringing the same teamwork mindset from the field into his leadership style. About Drone Nerds Drone Nerds is a leading U.S.-based drone solutions provider helping organizations design, deploy, and scale successful drone programs. Known for its deep industry expertise, strong vendor partnerships, and customer-first approach, Drone Nerds supports a wide range of industries with best-in-class hardware, software, training, and support. With a mission to be the “easy button” for enterprise drone operations, Drone Nerds simplifies adoption while enabling customers to maximize the value of unmanned technology. 💬 Notable Quotes “Remote operations, taking a little bit of the human element out of flights, and allowing one person to fly multiple drones—that’s what BVLOS unlocks.” “Our goal as Drone Nerds is to be the easy button for our customers’ drone programs.” “Drone in a box is going to have a profound effect on how people use drones in the future—it’s just a matter of time.” “U.S. manufacturing is happening now, and the technology being delivered can truly compete.” “Work hard, play hard. Get the work done—but let’s have fun while we’re doing it.”

Bristow’s Chief Transformation Officer David Stepanek returns to Hangar X to share real-world lessons from one of the most credible electric aviation test programs today: commercial-style operations in Norway using BETA Technologies’ all-electric ALIA (CX). Rather than focusing on limitations, David explains Bristow’s pragmatic “crawl–walk–run” approach—starting with conventional electric flight, validating operations, maintenance, charging, and safety processes, then scaling toward hybrid-electric and uncrewed offshore cargo missions. From Stavanger–Bergen flights across fjords to battery-cycle data, tire wear realities, and an unexpected EMI/radio-communication issue that prompted a full safety review, this episode offers a grounded look at what it takes to make advanced air mobility commercially viable—without outrunning aviation safety systems. Episode highlights • Bristow’s “focus on what electric aircraft can do” approach to building early profitable markets • Why Norway is an ideal launchpad (geography, infrastructure, public-sector alignment) • Learnings from ~86 flights and ~125 charge cycles on BETA’s ALIA • Charging time, range planning, and real operating economics (energy cost per leg) • The real-world EMI/radio issue—and how it was handled through rigorous safety processes • Why cargo-first and offshore logistics are the near-term commercial wedge • The case for hybrid-electric as a bridge to longer range, higher payload, and reduced infrastructure dependency Key points with timestamps [00:00:00] “Focus on what they can do”: mindset behind viable electric flight business models [00:02:10] Bristow’s mission: offshore energy transport + search and rescue [00:03:14] Platforms evaluated: BETA, Elroy Air, Electra, Vertical Aerospace, Eve [00:05:57] Evaluation criteria: performance, turbulence, batteries, charging, total cost [00:08:55] Tech readiness vs. certification as the gating factor [00:10:03] Why the Nordics: geography + dense airport network [00:11:18] Electric ops reality: identical takeoff and landing weight [00:12:44] Flight phases: local ops → VFR Stavanger–Bergen → IFR expansion [00:13:44] Range and reserves: ~200 nm with destination charging [00:14:12] Key learning: EMI interrupting long-range radio comms [00:15:47] Maintenance findings: tire wear, 100-hour inspection, battery module swap [00:17:14] Milestone: training commercial electric pilots outside the OEM [00:18:43] Charging time: ~30 minutes after a 90-mile leg [00:19:04] Battery outlook: ~125 cycles completed; target ~1500 [00:20:16] Government-sponsored report expected January 2026 [00:20:23] Flying ALIA: quiet, smooth, instant torque [00:23:26] Avinor’s role: airport ops and integrated charging infrastructure [00:24:38] Commercial path: cargo-first for regional and offshore logistics [00:26:58] Customer priorities: safety → cost → efficiency → sustainability [00:27:00] Economics datapoint: ~$10–$12 energy cost per leg [00:31:57] Red flags: certification timelines, capital, public acceptance [00:35:03] EMI “aha”: implications for multi-motor architectures [00:36:08] Hybrid-electric momentum from OEMs and Tier 1 suppliers [00:41:26] Vertical Aerospace conforming design milestone referenced [00:42:28] Why this matters: real commercial-style ops with regulators engaged [00:43:28] Next step: future webinar with Bristow, BETA, and Norway stakeholders Guest bio David Stepanek is Chief Transformation Officer at Bristow Group, leading efforts across sustainable aviation, AAM, electric and hybrid-electric systems, and uncrewed cargo operations. His focus is translating emerging aircraft into safe, scalable commercial operations. https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-stepanek-fraes-30a09216b/ About Bristow Group Bristow Group is a global provider of vertical flight solutions, supporting offshore energy and government services worldwide, with a strong focus on safety, reliability, and innovation. Notable quotes [00:00:00] “Let’s just pay attention to what they can do…” [00:11:47] “In electric airplane, takeoff and landing weight are always identical.” [00:14:12] “Long range radio transmissions have been interrupted by the EMI…” [00:18:43] “It’s about 30 minutes.” [00:21:31] “Powerful, smooth, quiet.” [00:31:57] “Not certified… do you have the capital to get to certification?” [00:33:35] “I worry that we’re getting ahead of ourselves…”

In this episode of the HangarX Podcast, host John Ramstead talks with Scott Drennan, President and COO of Otto Aviation, about the breakthrough thinking behind the Phantom 3500—a super-mid business jet built around laminar flow. Fresh off NBAA, Otto announced 300 firm Flexjet orders, signaling strong confidence in an aircraft promising lower fuel burn, coast-to-coast range, and a new cabin experience. Scott shares how Otto uses physics-first aerodynamics, advanced CFD, precision composite manufacturing, and “digital windows” to create a 19,000-lb aircraft performing like a 35,000–40,000-lb jet. The discussion covers drag-reduction benefits, certification strategy, high-altitude laminar resilience, and how removing windows can increase safety and comfort. If the Phantom 3500 meets its goals, it could reshape expectations for efficiency, economics, and aircraft design. Episode Highlights Flexjet places 300 firm Phantom 3500 orders, validating Otto’s design direction. Laminar flow as core innovation: major drag reduction and compounding fuel savings. A “big dumb wing” that isn’t draggy: high-aspect, low-loading wing becomes efficient as laminar flow minimizes drag. Windowless fuselage + Supernatural Vision: curved OLED “digital windows” offer panoramic views, safety gains, and simpler manufacturing. Digital-first enterprise: Otto builds digital twins for aircraft, factory, and lifecycle maintenance. Clear FAA path under Part 23: no “new and novel” hurdles, enabling faster certification. Key Points With Timestamps Laminar flow is the mission and multiplier—orderly airflow reduces viscous drag and boosts whole-aircraft efficiency. [00:04:07 – 00:06:13] Why drag reduction makes a lighter, cheaper jet—30% drag cut reduces thrust, engine size, fuel, structures, and cost (“virtuous cycle”). [00:05:10 – 00:07:18] Phantom 3500 targets — ~3,000–3,200 nm range, coast-to-coast capability, super-mid performance at Part 23 weight. [00:07:18 – 00:07:56] Wing efficiency — wing-only laminar flow can be 6–8x more efficient; whole-aircraft drag ~30% lower. [00:07:56 – 00:08:50] Clean-sheet drag obsession — relocating pitot tubes, embedding antennas. [00:09:02 – 00:10:29] What convinced Scott to join Otto — Celera demonstrator data showing sustained laminar flow, drag measurements, and fuel-burn validation. [00:10:47 – 00:12:55] Three enablers for laminar flow • Accurate prediction using NASA Overflow CFD + Otto algorithms • Precision composites/RTM manufacturing • Operational resilience via coatings and high-altitude cruise [00:13:18 – 00:19:29] Why Otto cruises at 51,000 ft — lower Reynolds number improves laminar resilience; turbulent wedges close up. [00:17:56 – 00:19:29] “Big dumb wing” advantage — low loading + clean actuation enables 3,500-ft field performance, quick climb to FL510, stable high-altitude handling. [00:19:38 – 00:21:24] Certification strategy — Part 23 basis set; FAA sees no new-and-novel risks. Otto uses COTS systems (Williams FJ44, ECS, fuel system). [00:21:40 – 00:25:03] High-AoA and landing — slotted two-piece wing with hinge flaps keeps flow attached up to 26° AoA for a benign stall. [00:25:03 – 00:26:50] Windowless cabin + Supernatural Vision — curved OLED panels offer immersive views, customization, structural benefits, lower weight, and manufacturing simplicity. [00:26:50 – 00:31:37] Digital twins — full-lifecycle modeling for predictive maintenance and higher availability. [00:31:37 – 00:35:48] 2035 vision — Phantom success enables ~66% resource savings, lower operating costs, broader access to business aviation, and a future larger laminar aircraft. [00:35:48 – 00:37:30] Guest Bio: Scott Drennan Scott Drennan is President and COO of Otto Aviation, leading development of the Phantom 3500 and Otto’s laminar-flow roadmap. A veteran aerospace engineer who previously led advanced programs at Bell, Scott blends aerodynamic rigor with entrepreneurial execution. He joined Otto after validating Celera demonstrator data and seeing the potential for certifiable, scalable laminar-flow aircraft. [Referenced: 00:02:00 – 00:12:55] https://www.linkedin.com/in/j-scott-drennan-95462782/ About Otto Aviation Otto Aviation (also Otto Aerospace) is a U.S. aircraft developer focused on sustained laminar-flow aerodynamics. Its flagship Phantom 3500 uses a streamlined, mostly windowless composite fuselage and precision manufacturing to preserve laminar flow. Otto claims ~60% lower fuel burn than comparable jets while maintaining coast-to-coast range and a larger-cabin experience. https://ottoaerospace.com/ Notable Quotes “Laminar flow is the orderly flow of a fluid… the difference between those two is drag.” [00:04:07 – 00:05:10] “A laminar flow aircraft can achieve 5x better drag than a turbulent flow aircraft.” [00:05:10 – 00:06:13] “We call that the virtuous cycle.” [00:06:13 – 00:07:18] “Design it in, build it in, keep it in.” [00:14:14 – 00:16:14]

Drones are quickly moving from hobby gear to essential industry infrastructure. In this Hangar X Studios episode, host and ex–fighter pilot John Ramstead talks with Jeremy Schneiderman, CEO of Drone Nerds, about the shift from consumer drones to enterprise, mission-critical systems. Jeremy shares how Drone Nerds grew from a small retailer into a major U.S. drone partner, and how aerial data is changing public safety, insurance, energy, construction, agriculture, and defense. They cover FAA rules (Part 107 now, Part 108/BVLOS next), DJI’s edge, NDAA and state bans, and why “drone-in-a-box” remote ops could drive the next adoption surge. Curious where UAS is headed and what unlocks scale? This episode lays out the roadmap. Episode Highlights Drone Nerds’ rise to ~$120M revenue. The 2016 public-safety “aha moment.” Drones replacing risky, slow fieldwork. What “drone-in-a-box” is and why it matters. Part 107 vs. Part 108 and BVLOS, simply explained. Why DJI leads—and where rivals are closing gaps. NDAA/state bans shaping U.S. procurement. XTI Aerospace partnership and what’s next. Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] Remote ops are near. Jeremy says Part 108 + BVLOS enable docked drones and centralized pilots. [00:01:53] Drone Nerds at scale. A $120M distributor/program manager across key verticals. [00:04:17] Core value. Safer, cheaper, faster, more accurate field data. [00:06:01] 2016 inflection. Police SAR/overwatch proved enterprise demand. [00:06:48] Origin + strategy. Consumer sales → repairs/service → enterprise programs. [00:08:08] Insurance case. One carrier scaled from 1 drone to 2,000+. [00:09:39] Outsourced program management. Consulting, hardware, software, training, repair, uptime fleets. [00:12:20] Education engine. Webinars, ebooks, Elevate UAV Summit. [00:13:26] Part 108 unlocks new use cases. Dock networks for utilities, pipelines, schools, DFR. [00:14:11] Drone-in-a-box defined. Auto-charge/launch docks for security + responders. [00:16:31] Hockey-stick adoption. Rapid growth, paced by each industry. [00:18:15] New frontier. Drones for labor tasks like façade cleaning. [00:19:11] Part 107 basics. Commercial license + waivers for advanced ops. [00:24:29] Platform scaling. Consumer → enterprise → heavy-lift frames (to ~250 lbs). [00:25:30] DJI dominance. Reliability, OcuSync, broad portfolio. [00:27:16] Bans + NDAA. Security reviews may widen restrictions. [00:29:55] Why XTI acquired Drone Nerds. Capital to expand, acquire, and scale. [00:31:00] Next-year goals. 3–4 acquisitions and bigger share. [00:32:35] Closing. If you’re considering drones—start now. Guest Bio: Jeremy Schneiderman Founder/CEO of Drone Nerds. Since 2014, he’s built it into a leading U.S. distribution and enterprise-solutions firm, offering consulting, deployment, training, repairs, and managed services. Revenue reached ~$120M; the company is a major DJI partner and was acquired by XTI Aerospace in 2025. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-schneiderman-dronenerds/ About Drone Nerds U.S.-based enterprise drone distributor and program partner (HQ: Dania Beach, FL). Helps organizations adopt and run mission-ready fleets via sales, consulting, training, maintenance, and uptime support. Acquired by XTI Aerospace in Nov 2025. Notable Quotes “Drones replace traditional field methods with safer, faster, cheaper data.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:04:17] “2016 was the aha moment for public safety adoption.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:06:01] “They outsource the whole program management to us.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:11:51] “Part 108 lets us fly dock drones from command centers.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:13:26] “Every school could have a dock on the roof.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:15:17] “We’re at a hockey-stick growth inflection.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:16:31] “DJI reliability is unmatched today.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:25:54] “If you’re evaluating drones for your business—start tomorrow.” — Jeremy Schneiderman [00:32:35]

Electrification is coming to aviation, but Ampaire’s CEO Kevin Noertker says the practical near-term path is hybrid-electric, not fully electric. In Hangar X, he explains how Ampaire shifted from bold sci-fi concepts to a certifiable retrofit strategy, proven in rugged deployments. Episode Highlights Big belief: Electrification will transform aviation like it did cars. Pivot to hybrid: Full-electric retrofits proved the tech, but hybrids were faster to certify and sell. Infrastructure bottleneck: Hawaii showed charging networks lag aircraft readiness. How it saves fuel: Cruise-optimized combustion + electric boost for takeoff/climb. Cert progress: FAA hybrid-engine certification + Eco Caravan STC path. Safety gain: Dual power sources add graceful-degradation resilience. Key Points with Timestamps Why electrification is inevitable — Ampaire’s founding insight. [00:00:00 – 00:03:34] Original “North Star” vision — fully electric VTOL supersonic jet → unpacked into steps. [00:06:15 – 00:07:31] Why hybrid beats full-electric (for now) — certify propulsion first, avoid aircraft redesign loops. [00:07:31 – 00:09:34] Retrofit lessons + Hawaii “aha” — planes ready before charging was. [00:07:31 – 00:13:32] Hybrid architecture (H570) — integrated parallel hybrid on one prop shaft. [00:18:10 – 00:21:37] Fuel savings mechanics — ~50% cruise, up to ~70% takeoff/climb. [00:21:37 – 00:25:31] Certification roadmap — engine cert + Caravan STC, aiming mid-2027. [00:25:31 – 00:27:47] Scaling plan — same stack for regional, cargo, GA, drones, defense. [00:27:47 – 00:30:28] Guest Bio Kevin Noertker is co-founder/CEO of Ampaire, developing hybrid-electric propulsion to cut emissions and costs in regional aviation. Ex-Northrop Grumman, NOAA satellite work, NASA JPL research; Caltech graduate. About Speedbird Ampaire Ampaire is a California aviation company building hybrid-electric propulsion and retrofit aircraft for existing turboprop fleets. Its flagship AMP-H570 “AmpDrive” combines a Jet-A piston engine with an electric motor/battery boost, flying on the Eco Caravan (hybrid Cessna Grand Caravan). The strategy targets near-term fuel and emissions cuts without depending on charging infrastructure. Notable Quotes “Electrification… is going to transform aviation.” “Designing a new airplane around immature propulsion guarantees redesign.” “Charging infrastructure will be slow to proliferate.” “Our launch product must be self-charging and infrastructure-independent.”

In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead talks with Manoel Coelho, CEO and Founder of Speedbird Aero, the company pioneering autonomous logistics and drone delivery. From launching Brazil’s first certified drone delivery operation to partnerships in Israel, Scotland, and Singapore, Speedbird is proving how unmanned aerial systems (UAS) can transform food, medical, and cargo transport. Manoel shares how his team overcame regulatory and technical hurdles to deliver real-world impact — from tackling food scarcity to enabling advanced medical logistics. This episode explores what’s next for Part 108 drone operations, insights from BVLOS (Beyond Visual Line of Sight) missions abroad, and why collaboration with aviation authorities is key for the future of aerial mobility. If you’re in aerospace, logistics, or curious about autonomous flight, this is a must-listen masterclass in innovation. 💡 Episode Highlights • The journey of Speedbird Aero — from concept to certification. • Overcoming Brazil’s toughest aviation and safety challenges. • BVLOS success stories — drones solving food and delivery gaps. • Lessons from missions in Israel, Scotland, and Singapore. • Balancing technology, automation, and human oversight. • What Part 108 means for U.S. drone operations. • Building a connected global drone ecosystem. 🕒 Key Points & Timestamps [00:00:00] – Opening Thoughts Manoel Coelho on the slow but essential process of scaling drone operations and public acceptance. [00:01:00] – Welcome John introduces the episode, sponsored by XTI Aerospace, and sets the stage for BVLOS and the vertical economy. [00:02:20] – Meet Manoel CEO of Speedbird, Brazil’s first ANAC-approved drone delivery operator, and a global BVLOS pioneer. [00:04:21] – Launching in Brazil Starting with food delivery through iFood, Latin America’s largest delivery company. [00:06:44] – Early Challenges From certification to operational safety, Speedbird proved the viability of commercial drone logistics. [00:07:54] – Airspace Integration First to integrate with Brazil’s Air Force ATM system — daily NOTAMs and 10-hour drone operations. [00:09:15] – Solving Real Problems Connecting cities divided by rivers and congestion — delivering food where roads couldn’t. [00:10:54] – Community Impact Public curiosity turned to trust as drones became part of daily life. [00:13:44] – Automation & Remote Operations Shifted from local pilots to remote control centers 2,000 km away — enabling true BVLOS scalability. [00:19:12] – Medical Logistics Expanded to lab and organ transport, earning Brazil’s first UN 3373 Category B certification. [00:22:01] – Global Expansion Partnerships with Cando Drones (Israel) and Skyports (Scotland, Singapore) — learning from UTM and GPS-denied zones. [00:25:14] – Weather Operations Adapting to microclimates and integrating weather data for safe flight planning. [00:27:54] – Non-Cooperative Traffic Highlighting risks from uncoordinated aircraft and stressing global airspace accountability. [00:30:19] – Part 108 in the U.S. Why BVLOS growth lags and how Part 108 could enable nationwide scaling. [00:34:27] – Connected Airspace Future The vision for UTM, cross-border operations, and Speedbird’s global collaborations. 👤 Guest Bio — Manoel Coelho CEO and Co-Founder of Speedbird Aero, the first company in Latin America certified by ANAC for drone delivery. A telemedicine innovator with 10+ years in aviation integration, Manoel has led thousands of BVLOS missions worldwide, advancing drone logistics for food, medical, and cargo delivery. His leadership positioned Speedbird as a global player, partnering with iFood, Skyports, and Cando Drones, and collaborating with aviation authorities globally. 🔗 LinkedIn – Manoel Coelho About Speedbird Aero Speedbird Aero is a Brazil-based leader in autonomous logistics and drone delivery. Founded by Manoel Coelho, it became Latin America’s first ANAC-certified company for commercial BVLOS operations. Speedbird delivers food, medical supplies, and cargo across challenging terrains through partnerships in Israel, Scotland, Singapore, and the U.S. 🌐 www.speedbird.aero 🗣️ Notable Quotes “We can’t scale yet because people still need to understand — unmanned aircraft will be flying more and more.” – Manoel Coelho “Our goal was simple: solve the problem first, prove the economics, then scale.” – Manoel Coelho “It’s not just drones; it’s the future of mobility, commerce, and connection.” – John Ramstead “BVLOS doesn’t mean the pilot sits nearby — it means the pilot can be anywhere.” – Manoel Coelho “Cargo drones are here now. Let’s start paying attention before the skies get crowded.” – Manoel Coelho

In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with Steve Zohabian, Chief Operating Officer at XTI Aerospace, to discuss how the company is reshaping the future of flight with the TriFan 600. From DARPA’s “Frankenstein” Learjet experiment to the next generation of vertical takeoff and landing aircraft, Steve shares how XTI is leveraging proven technology, agile processes, and a visionary team to unlock what he calls the “vertical skyway.” This conversation covers the technical, regulatory, and business challenges of advanced air mobility—and why XTI’s hybrid approach is poised to change aviation forever. Episode Highlights XTI Aerospace’s bold vision for the TriFan 600 and the “vertical skyway” The “cookbook” of people, tools, and processes to accelerate innovation DARPA’s Sprint program and the “Frankenstein Learjet” experiment Lessons learned from ducted fan technology and rapid prototyping Balancing certification, safety, and innovation in aviation The multi-mission versatility of the TriFan 600: passenger, cargo, and military use cases Why funding, trust, and credible execution will drive the next phase of aerospace transformation Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] – Steve Zohabian introduces the concept of opening a “new skyway” for vertical and conventional takeoff. [00:01:50] – John reviews Steve’s background: Piasecki Aircraft, Boeing, and ducted fan expertise. [00:03:27] – The “cookbook” for scaling aerospace innovation: people, tools, and processes. [00:04:36] – The DARPA “Sprint” program and how Piasecki created a demonstrator in record time. [00:05:31] – Transforming a Learjet into a vertical takeoff aircraft: the “Frankenstein” design. [00:06:31] – Importance of ingenuity, supply chain trust, and engineering agility. [00:07:14] – Lessons from ducted fan technology and breaking new ground. [00:08:14] – Comparing legacy aerospace with new innovators: leapfrogging technology. [00:09:05] – The roadmap: prototype, certification, and production. [00:10:03] – Balancing engineering design with FAA certification requirements. [00:10:56] – Safety first: early engagement with the FAA and proven supply chains. [00:12:11] – The “vertical skyway” vision and how it differs from eVTOL infrastructure limits. [00:13:14] – Market differentiation: TriFan can take off conventionally, on short runways, or vertically. [00:14:45] – Beyond high-net-worth users: cargo logistics, dual-use, and military applications. [00:15:43] – The biggest challenge ahead: funding and building investor confidence. [00:17:07] – The 90-day plan: review decisions, establish a baseline, and align with the FAA. [00:19:19] – Why Steve chose XTI: the perfect moment to harness decades of innovation. Guest Bio: Steve Zohabian Steve Zohabian is the Chief Operating Officer at XTI Aerospace, where he leads efforts to bring the groundbreaking TriFan 600 vertical takeoff and landing aircraft into production. Previously, Steve served as COO of Piasecki Aircraft, where he spearheaded the transformation into a next-generation VTOL company and led DARPA’s Sprint program. With deep engineering and leadership experience at Boeing on programs like the V-22 Osprey and Chinook, Steve is recognized as one of the leading experts in ducted fan technology. His career reflects a unique blend of technical innovation and executive leadership, positioning him to drive XTI’s mission of opening the vertical skyway. https://www.linkedin.com/in/zohrabian About XTI Aerospace XTI Aerospace is an aviation company dedicated to transforming air travel through its development of the TriFan 600, a revolutionary vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) aircraft. Combining the convenience of a helicopter with the speed and range of a business jet, the TriFan 600 is designed for point-to-point travel without the need for new infrastructure. XTI focuses on creating safe, efficient, and versatile aircraft that can serve multiple markets, from regional mobility and business travel to cargo and military applications. With a leadership team experienced in aerospace innovation and certification, the company is working to open what it calls a new “vertical skyway,” redefining how people and goods move across regions. Notable Quotes “We’re opening up really the opportunity for folks to land and take off wherever they want—ultimately bringing the holy grail of flight.” – Steve Zohabian [00:00:00] “People, tools, and processes—that’s the cookbook for transformation.” – Steve Zohabian [00:03:27] “We chopped off the wings, put ducted fans on, and turned a Learjet into a piece of art.” – Steve Zohabian [00:05:57] “Leapfrog technology, but take a credible approach when it comes to certification.” – Steve Zohabian [00:08:14]

Former fighter pilot and host John Ramstead sits down with Dr. Alex Williams for a fast paced masterclass on building world class engineering cultures and the future of aerospace. Alex traces his path from Pratt & Whitney’s combustor technology group to running research labs inside Apple, where he helped pioneer materials innovations such as 7000 series aluminum for iPhone and the engineered titanium surface for Apple Watch. He contrasts slow, committee driven aerospace workflows with Apple’s high velocity, quality obsessed model, then applies those lessons to three urgent vectors shaping aviation today: autonomy and control software, anti drone defenses, and American reindustrialization. Along the way, you will hear practical advice for leaders who want to move faster without sacrificing safety or quality. Episode Highlights Pratt & Whitney to Apple. How exposure to elite aerospace programs and Apple’s materials teams shaped Alex’s approach to speed, iteration, and perfection in production. Design language and materials. Why Apple committed to aluminum, what Bendgate taught the industry, and how engineered surfaces beat coatings for durability and consistency. Culture beats process. The difference between waterfall style roll ups and an environment where excellence is expected and 100 percent inspection is normal. The next aerospace race. Why autonomy, anti drone tech, and supply chain reinvention will decide competitiveness and even save lives. Leadership playbook. How to create a failure tolerant culture, pair veteran expertise with hungry young talent, and align boards and executives around innovation. Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] Cold open. Alex on freedom to explore ideas and why that mattered early in his career [00:00:49] Host intro, sponsor mention (XTI Aerospace), audience framing for innovators and investors [00:01:43] Meet the guest. From PhD to Pratt & Whitney to Apple’s internal research labs [00:04:07] Early path. Joining combustor technology development, customers NASA and the U.S. Air Force [00:06:27] Reliability spectrum. From the TF30’s shortcomings to the PT6’s bulletproof reputation [00:07:30] Learning from legends. Sitting next to F119 engineers and absorbing 50 years of know how [00:10:06] Transition to Apple. Materials development to serve function and cosmetics at scale [00:1...

Former Army helicopter pilot and FAA leader James “Jim” Viola, now President and CEO of the General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA), joins host John Ramstead to map where aerospace manufacturing and operations are headed next. From composites and 3D printing to data-driven certification, AI, and hybrid-electric propulsion, Jim explains how innovation can move faster while staying safe. He opens up on supply chain bottlenecks, why condition-based maintenance must replace calendar-based overhauls, what it will take to make AAM and eVTOL commercially viable, and why ATC modernization is the critical path to scale. If you care about building, certifying, or flying the future of aviation, this is your playbook. Episode Highlights How GAMA aligns manufacturers, regulators, and operators to get safe technology to market faster Advanced manufacturing in practice: composites, additive, digital threads, and real-time quality data AI’s role in predictive maintenance, automation, and the human-in-the-loop question Certification reality checks and how to keep programs moving with measurable milestones AAM and eVTOL operations: why IFR capability and procedures are essential to scale ATC modernization and the Modern Skies initiative as the backbone for the next decade Hybrid-electric propulsion, multi-path redundancy, and the path to safer operations Practical vision for rooftops, vertiports, and using existing community infrastructure Unleaded avgas transition timelines and what it means for the fleet Key Points with Timestamps 00:00:00 Safety by design: if cars auto brake, why can aircraft still collide 00:00:28 Show open, sponsor XTI Aerospace, and guest intro 00:03:35 GAMA’s mission: accelerate innovation and certification while protecting safety 00:06:11 The full manufacturing ecosystem: aircraft, engines, avionics, MRO, training 00:06:45 Composites and 3D printing meet the regulator’s education curve 00:08:24 Industry 4.0 in aerospace manufacturing 00:08:47 Re...

Propellers may not be the “sexy” part of an aircraft, but the team at Athule Aero is proving they’re the key to unlocking the future of advanced air mobility. In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with Tony Bacarella, CEO of Athule, to explore how their patented “Double Break” propeller technology is cutting noise by up to 75% and improving efficiency by up to 15%. From custom AI-designed blades for drones to game-changing applications in manned VTOLs, general aviation and even naval uses, Tony explains why the humble propeller is the next big catalyst for aerospace innovation. ️ Episode Highlights How Athule’s “Double Break” design reshapes the tip of a propeller to slash noise and redistribute thrust AI/ML-powered design tools that create custom propellers in days, not months Why noise reduction is critical for urban air mobility adoption The growing market for U.S.-made drone and propeller components Opportunities in manned VTOL, hybrid-electric regional aircraft and beyond ⏱️ Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] Welcome to Hangar X Studios & John’s introduction of the vertical economy [00:01:00] Why propellers are the overlooked “missing link” in EVTOL and drone adoption [00:02:29] Meet Tony Bacarella – Athule’s breakthrough in propeller technology [00:04:01] Why propellers are usually an afterthought & how Athule customizes them [00:04:49] The “aha moment”: validating the tech through an Air Force/AFWERX program [00:05:52] Explaining Athule’s patented “Double Break” blade and how it deloads the tip [00:08:36] AI/ML tool redistributes thrust and shapes noise profiles for each aircraft [00:10:20] Majority of Athule’s work is custom; mass-production also possible [00:11:17] Noise, FAA rules, and community acceptance for vertiports and urban c...

In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with Dana Sande, President of the UND Aerospace Foundation, to explore how the University of North Dakota became a global leader in aviation and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) education. From pioneering the first unmanned aircraft pilot degree program in the U.S. to building cutting-edge facilities like Gorman Field, the conversation dives into UND’s influence on commercial aviation, UAS innovation, and partnerships with both private industry and the military. Listeners will gain insight into how UND’s Aerospace Foundation helps the university “operate at the speed of business,” supporting rapid prototyping, pilot training, and drone testing—all while keeping education affordable for future aviation leaders. If you’ve ever wondered how UND shaped the future of unmanned aviation and why Grand Forks has become a hub for aerospace innovation, this episode is packed with answers. Episode Highlights How UND pioneered unmanned aircraft pilot training in the U.S. The UND Aerospace Foundation’s unique role in bridging education with industry. Stories of partnerships with Cirrus, Cessna, and XTI Aerospace. Inside Gorman Field – UND’s state-of-the-art facility for UAS training and testing. Why UND grads are flying more MQ-9 Predators than anyone outside the U.S. military. The growing importance of counter-drone technology and defense innovation. Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] Dana Sande introduces UND’s leadership in unmanned aircraft pilot training—the first degree program of its kind in the U.S. [00:02:16] UND trains across all aviation sectors: pilot training, air traffic control, engineering, atmospheric sciences, and airport management. [00:03:35] Origins of the UND Aerospace Foundation (1985) and its mission to help UND operate at the speed of business. [00:04:34] Partnership examples: factory training for Cirrus, managing Cessna’s eLearning, FAA-mandated training courses.

In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with John Ibele, co-founder of Meadowlark Aircraft Manufacturing, to explore the future of American-made drones. With decades of experience in high-volume manufacturing at Seagate, Ibele shares how lessons from producing millions of disk drive components in Asia can be applied to building drones right here in the U.S. The conversation spans topics like design for manufacturing (DFM), the advantages of domestic production, the challenges of scaling drone manufacturing, and the ambitious vision behind Meadowlark’s flagship fixed-wing VTOL drone, the FH125 “Strix.” This episode is a fascinating look at how North Dakota is emerging as a hub for aerospace innovation, and how entrepreneurs like Ibele are determined to strengthen America’s manufacturing resilience in the drone industry. Episode Highlights Why much of America’s high-volume manufacturing shifted overseas—and how to bring it back. Meadowlark Aircraft Manufacturing’s origin story and bold vision. Insights into design for manufacturing (DFM) and how it drives product and process decisions. The FH125 “Strix”: a fixed-wing VTOL designed for precision agriculture, wildlife management, fire and rescue, and perimeter security. Managing massive data collection from drones with edge computing and transmission strategies. Why North Dakota is the right place to launch a drone manufacturing company. Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] John Ibele on U.S. manufacturing: too often high-volume production defaults overseas, but domestic advantages are being rediscovered. [00:00:58] Host John Ramstead introduces the sponsor (XTI Aerospace) and welcomes listeners to the live recording at The Hive, Grand Forks. [00:02:42] Ibele shares how his partnership with Ned Tabet and background at Seagate led to founding Meadowlark. [00:03:50] Introduction of the FH125 “Strix”—a fixed-wing VTOL drone with a 16-foot wingspan designed for all-day endurance.

India may be the world’s seventh-largest country with the largest population, but when it comes to helicopters, the numbers tell a surprising story—just 270 helicopters serve over 1.4 billion people. In this episode of Hangar X, host John Ramstead sits down with Air Marshal (Retd.) Anil Butola, President of the Rotary Wing Society of India (RWSI) and former Indian Air Force test pilot, to unpack the state of India’s helicopter and vertical lift industry. From his 42-year career in the Indian Air Force to leading efforts to reform civil aviation regulations, Air Marshal Butola shares unique insights into India’s helicopter challenges, opportunities, and the emerging role of EVTOLs and advanced air mobility. This episode dives into the regulatory hurdles, infrastructure gaps, and the bold vision for India’s vertical flight future. Whether you’re an aviation professional, policymaker, or simply curious about the next frontier in aerospace, this conversation delivers insider perspectives on the future of vertical lift in one of the world’s fastest-growing economies. ✈️ Episode Highlights India’s surprisingly small civilian helicopter fleet compared to its size and population. The critical role of RWSI in shaping policy and industry growth. Current helicopter applications: offshore oil & gas, pilgrimage routes, charters. Challenges in law enforcement, emergency medical services, and air ambulance use. How fiscal and regulatory hurdles limit industry growth. The promise—and roadblocks—of EVTOL adoption in India. Why RWSI is pushing for a dedicated Helicopter Directorate under DGCA. Air Marshal Butola’s personal journey from fighter pilot and test pilot to industry advocate. ⏱️ Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:03] India’s helicopter gap: only 270 helicopters for the world’s largest population. [00:01:55] Transitioning from 42 years in uniform to civilian life. [00:02:56] Joining the Rotary Wing Society of India and becoming its President. [00:04:03] RWSI’s role in policy influence and working with regulators.

 In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with Tom Kading, entrepreneur, engineer, and founder of Fargo Patent Law, to discuss how aerospace innovators can protect and leverage their intellectual property. From patents and trade secrets to brand strategy and investor readiness, Tom shares practical advice for startups and established companies navigating the rapidly growing UAS and aerospace markets. Whether you’re building drones, VTOLs, or next-gen software, this conversation will help you rethink IP not just as paperwork, but as a core business asset. Episode Highlights Why intellectual property is more than just patents The difference between utility and design patents Trade secrets vs. patents: when to choose each Common mistakes aerospace companies make with IP strategy How a strong IP portfolio builds business value and attracts investors Practical advice for protecting software, hardware, and processes Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] – Introduction & mission: Supporting innovative businesses in their growth. [00:00:48] – John introduces platinum sponsor XTI Aerospace and today’s live recording from The Hive in Grand Forks. [00:01:35] – Tom shares his entrepreneurial background and why he founded Fargo Patent Law with a focus on aerospace. [00:02:34] – Common IP mistakes: treating patents as “just a piece of paper” instead of part of a strategy. [00:04:29] – Utility vs. design patents explained, including length of protection and scope. [00:05:46] – Trade secrets: when keeping something secret might be smarter than filing a patent. [00:06:32] – Using IP as a strategic asset: capital raising, acquisitions, and market positioning. [00:07:30] – What makes a strong IP portfolio (patents, trade secrets,...

In this inspiring episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with aviation advocate Cynthia Glenn live at VertiCon. Together, they tackle one of the industry’s most pressing challenges: how to bring more women into aviation. Cynthia shares her personal journey into flying, the hurdles she faced, and the mentors who encouraged her to pursue her dream. She also highlights the power of community, mentorship, and personal invitation in breaking down barriers and inspiring the next generation of women pilots. Listeners will discover how organizations like the 99s and Women in Aviation International are shaping opportunities for women, why relational outreach matters, and how individual action can make a massive difference in creating diversity and inclusion in the cockpit. Episode Highlights Cynthia’s first encounter with aviation and how COVID gave her the opportunity to pursue her passion. The importance of mentorship and why women often excel as pilots. How the 99s and Women in Aviation International empower women in aviation. Cynthia’s new aviation cooperative and how it opens opportunities for aspiring pilots. Practical steps listeners can take to inspire young people, especially women, to fly. Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:38] John introduces Hangar X Studios and frames the importance of innovation and diversity in aviation. [00:01:49] The need for more women in aviation and John’s Young Eagles volunteer work. [00:03:09] Cynthia shares her first aviation experience at age 17 and how societal limitations made her pause her dream. [00:03:57] How COVID opened the door for Cynthia to study aviation seriously. [00:05:09] The legacy of the 99s, founded by Amelia Earhart, and its continued mission of advocacy. [00:05:53] Cynthia’s experience at the Women in Aviation International conference with 4,500 inspiring women. [00:06:40] The reality of pilot demographics: less than 1% of the popula...

In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead welcomes Lieutenant Colonel Michael “Brabs” Brabner for a deep dive into the rapidly evolving world of military drone technology. With over 25 years in the U.S. Army and extensive experience in combat, defense acquisitions, and unmanned systems, Brabner shares his insights on how drones are permanently transforming warfare. From lessons learned in Iraq and Afghanistan to real-time observations from Ukraine, he explains the strategic, tactical, and operational advantages of small UAS, the Army’s shift toward purpose-built attritable systems, and the importance of rapid adaptation. This conversation explores cutting-edge developments like EOIR sensors, communication relay payloads, and kinetic FPV drones, while stressing the urgency of innovation, regulatory reform, and industry collaboration to maintain U.S. drone dominance. Episode Highlights Why drones are now among the most lethal assets on the battlefield Lessons from Ukraine and how they’re shaping U.S. Army doctrine The four modular mission payload priorities for small UAS The “Audible” program: innovating safe, low-cost drone lethality Overcoming regulatory barriers and accelerating adoption How industry and the DoD can work together for rapid iteration and adaptation Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] Brabner on the growing realization across the DoD that failure to adapt to drone technology could result in catastrophic consequences in future conflicts. [00:04:09] Lessons from Ukraine: how free battlefield lessons inform U.S. joint requirements and innovation. [00:06:39] Shift from snipers to drone operators as the most lethal battlefield role; drones destroying thousands of armored vehicles. [00:10:45] Addressing past capability gaps: shortening the sensor-to-shooter timeline and empowering tactical units with organic UAS assets. [00:13:55] The hunter-killer paradigm: pairing reconnaissance drones with kinetic FPV systems for maximum effect. [00:18:13] Importance of communication extension payloads for operational advantage in denied environments. [00:20:45] Electronic warfare payloads and survivability in GPS-denied environments. [00:22:29] Overcoming regulatory hurdles: decentralizing risk acceptance to speed deployment....

In this episode of Hangar X Studios, host John Ramstead sits down with aerospace professor and Air Force veteran Robert Lunnie, live from VertiCon. Together, they dive into the challenges and breakthroughs of designing vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) aircraft, focusing on subscale prototyping, flight testing, and real-time transition from vertical to horizontal flight. Lunnie walks us through his collaborative work with XTI Aerospace, explains the development process behind experimental models like the TriFan, and shares how the University of North Dakota (UND) has become a powerhouse in drone R&D and autonomous flight systems. This episode is a deep technical dive into the future of flight and the dynamic ecosystem driving aerospace innovation. Episode Highlights The complexity behind transitioning VTOL aircraft from vertical to horizontal flight 3D printing and rapid prototyping of XTI's TriFan models Building a six to eight-foot subscale drone for aerodynamic testing Development of an immersive ground control station UND's ecosystem for UAS testing, including Grand Sky and the Hive incubator How UND supports both large defense contractors and startup innovators Real-world data acquisition from drone prototypes to inform full-scale designs Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:03] The core challenge: reliable vertical to horizontal VTOL transitions [00:00:47] Intro and sponsorship by XTI Aerospace [00:01:21] Robert Lunnie’s background: Air Force, UND professor, drone R&D [00:02:21] Turning CAD models into 3D printed subscale TriFan prototypes [00:03:43] Testing the transition flight on a 3-ft exposed-frame prototype [00:04:54] Articulating nacelles vs. quad rotor flight mechanisms [00:06:01] Designing a full ground control station for immersive UAS piloting [00:06:48]

In this compelling episode of Hangar X Studios, host and former fighter pilot John Ramstead sits down with Doug McDonald, founder of isight Drones, for a deep dive into how drones are reshaping commercial industries. From wind blade inspections to agriculture and life-saving medical delivery, Doug shares firsthand insights on real-world drone applications, the challenges of drone logistics, and the evolving regulatory and manufacturing landscape. Recorded live at The Hive in Grand Forks, North Dakota, this conversation spotlights the practical side of drone deployment and the future of advanced air mobility. Episode Highlights Why drones are ideal for “dirty, dull, and dangerous” jobs How isight Drones supports energy, agriculture, and medical industries Behind-the-scenes logistics of running a national drone operation The shift toward American-made drone technology and battery sourcing Real-world use cases: wind blades, solar panels, rock mapping, and weed detection How hybrid VTOL aircraft are transforming medical delivery to rural areas Challenges in replacing DJI with U.S.-based alternatives Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:00] Doug explains how drones replace dangerous manual inspections on wind turbines [00:01:52] Overview of isight Drones and its 30+ pilot national operation [00:03:09] The reality of drone logistics: equipment, redundancy, and deployment [00:04:18] Using LiDAR and optical sensors to inspect wind blades [00:04:45] Clients don’t want data, they want insights — like “delamination at 34 meters” [00:05:28] Precision agriculture: stand counts, weed detection, and smart spraying [00:07:06] Rock mapping for farming: a costly problem solved efficiently [00:08:49] Drone delivery for rural healthcare and VA patients [00:10:39] Hybrid aircraft: 7-hour range, 70mph, 400–500 miles per flight [00:11:31]

In this exciting episode recorded live at Verticon, host John Ramstead sits down with Kim Hutchings, co-founder of Volo Mission, the only U.S.-based helicopter training program dedicated exclusively to long line external load operations. Kim shares how a need for formalized training inspired her and her husband—a veteran external load pilot—to launch Volo Mission. They delve into the complexities of long line flying, the skillset it demands, how Volo’s curriculum is transforming pilot readiness, and their latest initiatives to bring more women into the rotorcraft industry. Whether you're an aviation enthusiast, a commercial pilot, or someone fascinated by the evolving vertical economy, this episode delivers high-impact insights into one of aviation’s most specialized disciplines. Episode Highlights The origin story of Volo Mission and why external load training is critical Flight dynamics of long line operations and pendulum control Volo’s immersive training with real-world loads: tires, AC units, power poles, and more "Ladies of the Long Line" initiative and scholarships for female pilots Volo’s role as a Robinson R66 Utility distributor and new ventures for 2025 Key Points with Timestamps [00:00:03] Kim describes how her husband entered the world of external load flying without any formal training [00:00:29] Host John Ramstead introduces the episode and sets the stage from Verticon [00:02:07] Kim shares the founding of Volo Mission and its unique long line training [00:03:21] The challenge of flight dynamics and learning to “fly the line” [00:04:15] Techniques to control swinging loads in windy conditions [00:04:44] What’s new in 2025: adding complex training scenarios and live fire Bambi bucket exercises [00:05:20] Types of students: aspiring pilots and operators sending new hires [00:05:27] Clarifying there's no formal certification—just essential skill development [00:05:49] Introduction to “Ladies of the Long Line” and scholarships for women via the Whirly Girls [00:06:42] Volo’s work as a distributor for the Robinson R66 Utility helicopter [00:07:22]