DNA: ID

Episode 185 Doe ID 'Blue Pacheco' Patricia 'Patsy' Skiple A murdered Jane Doe was found at a truck turnout in Santa Clara county, CA in 1993. Remaining unidentified, she became known as Blue Pacheco, after her clothing and dump site location.  She remained unidentified for decades, long after a famous serial killer was prosecuted for her murder.  Even though justice was served, investigators were determined to give Blue Pacheco her name back – and finally, IGG allowed them to provide answers to her family. Her name is Patsy Skiple, a victim of the Happy Face Killer, Keith Hunter Jesperson. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 184 Brad Bellino The 1972 rape and murder of 12 year old Brad Bellino in Boardman Ohio shook residents of the safe, peaceful town.  The case of the little boy abducted and discarded in a dumpster was worked hard by police, but remained unsolved, even as another little boy was taken just three years later.  Investigators never forgot Brad Bellino and David Evans, and when modern DNA testing technology came around, they jumped at a new chance to solve the crimes that were a scourge on the town and a black mark on the Boardman police department.  Finally, thanks to updated DNA testing and IGG, Brad and David's families have answers, answers that, a half century later, came too late.   To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 183 Doe ID: 'The Woman in the Well' Alice Spence The remains of a female were found in an abandoned well in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada in 2006.  Experts and historians placed her murder to the early years of the 20th century – but they had no idea who she was.  Thousands of hours of work dedicated to identifying her were expended to no avail.  And then, IGG solved the riddle of The Woman in the Well, identifying her as Alice Burke Spence.  This is her story.   To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 182 Sandra Lison Part 2 of 2  This is part 2; the conclusion of the Sandra Lison case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first.  This episode is sponsored by Masterclass. DNA ID listeners can  save an additional 15% any annual membership when they visit our special show link here. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 182 Sandra Lison Part 1 of 2  Sandra Lison, a single mom of two, was abducted from a Green Bay, WI bar around 2:00 a.m. on a summer night in 1987.  She was found raped and murdered many miles away just days later.  A very complex investigation revealed some early suspects who placed themselves in police crosshairs – and they were eventually tried and convicted.  But that is not the end of Sandra's story, which is a true testament to the mighty powers of IGG not only to identify the guilty, but to exonerate the innocent.  This episode is sponsored by Thrive Market. Listeners of DNA ID can Save 30% off your first order and receive a free $60 gift by visiting our special show link here.    To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 181 Doe ID: Donna Lass In 1986, a human skull was found along Highway 20 and Interstate 80, 45 miles northwest of South Lake Tahoe, CA. At the time, investigators couldn't come to many conclusions other than the fact the skull belonged to a young woman, likely in her 20s, and she had been murdered. Years later DNA & genealogy would finally reveal the truth; the skull belonged to Donna Ann Lass, a 25 year-old nurse who vanished on September 6,1970 after finishing her shift at the Sahara Hotel Casino. An unknown man called Donna's employer to tell her Donna had left town for a family emergency, which turned out not to be true. Donna Lass was never seen again. It didn't take long for an infamous serial killer, 'The Zodiac', to seemingly latch himself to Donna's case, possibly providing clues, and taunting investigators. For decades, Zodiac's possible involvement muddied the waters in the Lass investigation. All these years later, we may know what happened to Donna, but we don't know who was responsible.  This episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile. Listeners of DNA ID can start off with Mint Mobile for as little as $15 per month using our special listener link.  To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 180 Audrey Hoellein Part 2 of 2 This is part 2,; the conclusion of the Audrey Hoellein case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 180 Audrey Hoellein Part 1 of 2   The 1994 murder of Audrey Hoellein on her bed in her Vancouver, WA apartment led to a very complex investigation with a large number of suspects.  The case relied heavily on forensic testing, which found the DNA of two men on Audrey's comforter. Investigators could identify only one of them, and he was, for a time, the prime suspect.  But it was the unidentified one – "Individual A" – whom the police zeroed in on.  Once IGG identified him, and authorities started to put together their case against him, it opened a whole can of worms.  The ending is not what you would expect.    To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 179 Doe ID: 'Davie Canal Jane Doe' Lori Kearsey  As in Marilyn Decker's case last week, Lori Kearsey was found murdered and floating in a Davie, FL canal in the 1980s.  She remained a Jane Doe for decades, because she had no ties to the area.  And when she was identified by IGG, it turned out that she was very much missed.  Her killer remains at large, but detectives have a strong person of interest, and are actively working Lori's case.  To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 178 Marilyn Decker   Marilyn Decker's mutilated body, wrapped in a pink plastic bag, was found floating in a Davie, FL canal in 1987. Her case was complex and featured many shady and transient suspects, but detectives could not pin the crime on any of them.  It seemed the case would forever remain unsolved, until one determined detective took a chance on rootless hair evidence, and IGG. And those hairs led to a man police never suspected, an itinerant, seasoned criminal whose violent crimes are just now coming to light. This episode is sponsored by MasterClass. Visit our special listener link to save 15% off of your first year of MasterClass This episode is sponsored by Thrive Market. Visit our special listener link to save 30% off of your first order and receive a free $60 gift.  To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.

Episode 177  Doe ID: 'Lime Lady' Tammy Tigard   Today's case is that of the infamous "Lime Lady," the young white Jane Doe found covered in quicklime in Oklahoma in 1980.  Investigators had very little to go on in her case, even though her features and physical attributes were very well preserved.  She remained unidentified for nearly a half century.  And when the DNA Doe Project gave her her name back, it simply gave rise to more questions – questions which remain unanswered.  This episode is sponsored by Mint Mobile Premium wireless plans for DNA ID listeners starting at just $15 a month.    To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action. 

Episode 176 Phyllis Bailer   In 1972, Phyllis Bailer and her toddler daughter set out to make an evening drive to her parents' house for a weekend visit. The drive from their home in Indianapolis to Bluffton, IN should have taken less than two hours.  But Phyllis and her child never made it.  The next day came awful news for Phyllis's family when she was found dead in a ditch. Her young daughter Jodi was by her side, and suffered only a small injury.  And so began a decades-long investigation into Phyllis's murder.  A prime suspect focused on by the investigators for years and years seemed like the logical culprit. But police and Phyllis's family would not have definitive answers until IGG came along and pointed them in an entirely different direction. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action. 

Episode 175 Doe ID: 'Charlotte Walmart John Doe' Kenneth McCarthy    In 2016, a John Doe was found behind a WalMart in Charlotte, NC. With no identification and very few personal possessions, he remained unidentified, known only as Charlotte WalMart John Doe.  When a cold case detective took a class on IGG analysis, he applied the new technique to Charlotte WalMart John Doe's case, and found relatives who had been looking for him for 12 years.  This is the story of Kenneth Robert McCarthy.    To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action. 

Episode 174 Barbara Villarreal Part 2 of 2 This is part 2; the conclusion of the Barbara Villarreal case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and listen to part 1 first.    To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action. 

Episode 174 Barbara Villarreal Part 1 of 2   In this Season 6 opener, you'll hear the jaw-dropping, twisty case of Barbara Carr Villarreal.  Barbara was stabbed to death in her Garland, TX home in 1986. Her husband was also attacked in the home invasion.  But stories and evidence did not match up, and police were left chasing their tails, and chasing their prime suspect who was in the wind. Nothing in this case was as it seemed to be, and justice for Barbara seemed unattainable.  Modern investigators had to solve an identity theft case to find the true name of the person they believed was behind Barbara's murder, and then had to use kinship testing to finally name her murderer.   We'd like to thank the following sponsors in this episode: Masterclass- Learn from the best to be the best. Listeners of DNA ID will receive an additional 15% off  any annual membership at masterclass.com/DNAID   Mint Mobile- Premium wireless plans starting at just $15 a month. Listeners of DNA ID will receive 50% off unlimited premium wireless at Mintmobile.com/DNAID   Thrive Market- The 'No Junk food' grocery store. Listeners of DNA ID will get 30% off their first order plus a free $60 gift by visiting Thrivemarket.com/DNAID   To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.   Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action. 

Episode 173 DNA ID Replay Kim Bryant and Diana Hanson While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in  what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Kim Bryant and Diana Hanson which originally aired in episode 37. 1979 Las Vegas, a weekday morning. 16 year old Kim Bryant was at a Dairy Queen waiting for her ride – and then she was gone. Her body was found a month later, sexually assaulted, beaten and murdered. A notorious serial killer was the only real suspect – he was executed in Texas, but he didn't kill her. When a tip came in in 2019, new testing was conducted on the biological evidence in Kim's case that isolated a male DNA profile. Forensic genealogy led to the name of a suspect, and further testing of his living relatives revealed that he was the killer of Kim Bryant. But naming him also allowed the LVMPD to close another cold case – the 1983 abduction, rape and murder of 22 year old Diana Hanson. The same killer had struck twice – at least.   To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.   

Ep172 DNA ID Replay Susan Negersmith  While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in  what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Susan Negersmith which originally aired in episode 74. In 1990, 20 year old college student Susan Negersmith went to beach town Wildwood, NJ with friends for Memorial Day weekend. Her body was found behind a local restaurant, half naked, shoeless, bloody, riddled with injuries, and with visible marks on her throat. Someone had taken pains to ensure she was obscured from view of passersby – yet her death was ruled an accident. It took her father 6 years to get her death certificate changed to reflect that her death was a homicide – but by that time, the damage was done. Even forensic genealogy, with its wondrous power to provide answers, may not be able to deliver justice for Susan Negersmith. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.   

Episode 171 DNA ID Replay Helene Pruszynski While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in  what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Helene Pruszynski which originally aired in episode 12. In 1980, ambitious college student Helene Pruszynski was abducted from Englewood, Colorado. Her body was found in a remote field the next day. She had been raped and stabbed in the back. Police had multiple suspects, and a series of similar attacks, but were never able to gather enough information to arrest anyone. Decades later, a DNA profile from Helene's crime scene would lead them to her killer. He was living thousands of miles away, using another name. A confiscated beer mug would prove to be his downfall, as his DNA linked him to the crime. To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action. 

Introducing: Below the Surface from AbJack Entertainment  Below the Surface is a true crime podcast covering a variety of strange and bizarre cases with one common theme; a water connection.  The show features both solved and unsolved cases, some of which are well known, while others have received little attention. In this special preview of episode 1, we explore the puzzling case of Kim Wall who was Best known for her articles in the Guardian, New York Times, and Vice, journalist. She disappeared in a submarine beneath the Oresund Strait after interviewing inventor, Peter Madsen, on August 10, 2017. We can only speculate what exactly happened below the surface, but upon the submarine's resurface, Kim was missing, but Peter Masden was not. To listen to Episode 1 of Below the Surface, search for it on your favorite podcast app. You can also listen to episode 2 right now. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode.  Below the Surface is hosted by Olivia McKenzie (Co host of True Crime Society). It's produced by Mike Morford of AbJack Entertainment (Co host of Criminology). Research and writing by Abagail Belcastro (Campus Killings)   You can find Below the Surface on your favorite social media outlets.  

Episode 170 DNA ID Replay Eve Wilkowitz While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in  what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Eve Wilkowitz which originally aired in episode 72. 20 year old Eve Wilkowitz's life was all coming together during the first few days of spring, 1980. She had a job she loved and a new boyfriend. Her daily commute into Manhattan from Bay Shore, Long Island was long, but Eve had plans to move into the city. Someone took all that away from her. After boarding the last LIRR train from the city to Long Island, Eve vanished. Her loved ones were frantic for three days, and their worst fears came true when she turned up dead in the backyard of a nearby home. Police turned her complicated love life upside down, and left no stone unturned. Their theory that Eve's abductor and murderer was a neighbor was correct – but they would not know that for decades to come.   This week's episode is sponsored by Masterclass. MasterClass is the streaming platform that makes it possible for anyone to watch or listen to hundreds of video lessons taught by 200+ of the world's best. Whether it be in business and leadership, photography, cooking, writing, acting, music, sports and more, MasterClass delivers a world class online learning experience. Video lessons are available anytime, anywhere on your smartphone, personal computer, Apple TV and FireTV streaming media players.  DNA ID listeners can save up to 50% by using our special web link at: masterclass.com/dnaid   To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast   ©2025 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.