Means of Grace

MOG Re-Air from 2023: In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, hosts Jesse Enniss and Kim Ingram talk to Rev. Katherine Sherrill, a therapist, and United Methodist deacon, about the pervasive state of anxiety in our lives. They discuss how our relationship with God through the church can give hope and methods for de-escalating our worries. Share this holy conversation with a friend.

Summary In this episode of Means of Grace, John Yeager explores the significance of Lent and its evolution over the years, emphasizing the importance of reflection and spiritual growth. He is joined by Reverend Dr. In-Yong Lee, who shares her experiences as a district superintendent and the challenges faced by church leaders today. The conversation delves into the practices of Lent, including fasting, prayer, and giving, and discusses the recent regionalization within the United Methodist Church, highlighting the need for community support during these challenging times. Show Note: Quietly Courageous by Gil Rendle   Chapters 00:00 Understanding Lent: A Journey of Reflection 02:57 The Role of Leadership in the Church 03:58 Navigating Challenges in Ministry 07:00 The Importance of Connection and Community 09:42 Practices of Faith: Prayer, Fasting, and Giving 12:51 The Essence of Fasting and Its Spiritual Significance 17:38 Tithing: Balancing Generosity and Responsibility 24:57 The Role of Wealth in Generosity 28:14 Understanding Regionalization in the UMC 36:01 Clergy Exhaustion and Community Support 44:43 Embracing Change During Lent 46:47 MOG-Like and Subscribe

Summary In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Jesse Enniss, John Yeager, and Rev. Beth Crissman engage in a profound discussion about the ongoing conversation surrounding peace, particularly in the context of the upcoming 2026 Peace Conference. They explore the theme of 'Disarming Hatred' and the importance of practicing peace as a form of resistance in a world filled with division and hatred. The conversation delves into the historical context of hatred, the difference between worldly peace and the peace of Jesus, and the necessity of community and individual action in fostering compassion and understanding. The speakers emphasize the importance of preparation for the conference, including self-reflection and partnership in advocacy for peace.   Show Notes: Peace Conference: March 13-15, 2026 Lake Junaluska, NC   Chapters 00:00 The Ongoing Conversation About Peace 01:25 Introducing the 2026 Peace Conference 02:04 Changes and Continuities in the Peace Conference 04:44 The Historical Context of Hatred 06:09 Shifting the Narrative from Hate to Compassion 08:44 The Illusion of Peace in History 10:35 Jesus' Peace vs. Worldly Peace 12:21 The Long Road to Shalom 13:34 Disarming Hatred: A Call to Action 15:41 Understanding the Roots of Division 18:16 Self-Examination and the Danger of Hatred 20:30 Preparing for the Peace Conference 23:04 The Role of Anger in Advocacy 26:29 Final Thoughts and Encouragement 34:48 MOG-Like and Subscribe.mp4

Summary In this conversation, Jesse Enniss and John Yeager engage with Nathan Webb, author of 'God and the Machine', to explore the intersection of faith and technology. They discuss the historical context of technology in relation to faith, the ethical implications of AI in ministry, and the importance of building relationships in a digital age. Nathan shares his experiences as a church planter and the role of AI in enhancing accessibility and community within the church. The discussion emphasizes the need for ethical considerations in the use of technology and the enduring relevance of love and grace in ministry. Bio: Nathan Webb is an ordained elder in The United Methodist Church and the founding pastor of Checkpoint Church, a digital-first United Methodist community. He writes and teaches at the intersection of faith, technology, and pop culture, creating accessible theology for digital natives and digital skeptics alike. Through YouTube, Twitch Substack, Discord, and other online platforms, Nathan reaches a global audience with weekly "nerdy sermons" and creative resources for churches navigating the digital age. Show Notes: God and the Machines Cokesbury Book Cokesbury Leader Guide Amazon Book Amazon Leader Guide The Remarkable Life of Ibelin News The A.I. Advantage The 2025 Annual Conference Journal Peace Conference 2026

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Jesse Enniss and John Yeager discuss the themes of humility, connection, and community as they reflect on the past year and look forward to 2026. They emphasize the importance of letting go of unrealistic expectations and perfectionism while embracing change and experimentation in ministry. The conversation also highlights the church's role in society, the need for intentional spiritual life, and the power of asking for help. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to engage in public witness for the common good and to support one another in their journeys of faith.   Show Notes: Bishop Carter shares his monthly pastoral letter and calendar with the WNCC. Human Relations Sunday - January 18th Equip & Connect in-person district gatherings will be happening on January 25th. Register for the 2026 Peace Conference coming up in March.  Register for the Grant Skill Builder webinar happening later this month.   Chapters  00:00 New Beginnings and Reflections for 2026  02:09 Understanding the Calendar: The Significance of 2026  07:08 What to Carry into 2026: Humility and Connection 12:25 Embracing Change: Letting Go of the Old 18:35 The Importance of Experimentation in Ministry 24:05 Adjusting Expectations: Meeting People Where They Are 30:32 Navigating First Impressions in Church 33:31 The Challenge of Welcoming Newcomers 35:27 Understanding Growth and Community Dynamics 38:25 Innovative Ministry Approaches 39:56 Letting Go of Shame and Embracing Vulnerability 47:59 Intentional Spiritual Life and Community Engagement 48:12 Conference Announcements 50:30 Intentional Spiritual Life and Community Engagement Continued 57:47 The Power of Asking for Help 01:02:05 MOG-Like and Subscribe

Thank you for all your support throughout 2025. To end the year, we've compiled a few of our most inspirational stories. We look forward to bringing you more episodes in 2026!

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Rev. Dr. Luke Edwards reflect on the importance of being present for the vulnerable, particularly immigrants facing legal and social challenges. They discuss the launch of the Immigrant Ministry Crisis Fund by the Western North Carolina Conference, aimed at providing support to immigrant families in need. The conversation emphasizes the role of the church in advocating for justice, offering compassion, and creating a welcoming community for those in distress. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to engage in meaningful support and accompaniment of their immigrant neighbors. Show Notes:  WNCC Immigrant Ministry Crisis Fund Conference Board of Pension and Health Benefits Contributes $100,000 to Support Immigrant Ministry Crisis Fund The Listening Church

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, hosts Jesse Enniss and John Yeager discuss the vital role of appreciation in ministry with Reverend Sally Queen, who shares her experiences as a district superintendent. The conversation explores the challenges faced by churches today, the importance of recognizing and valuing clergy, and practical ways for congregations to show appreciation. The episode emphasizes that gratitude is essential for fostering relationships and supporting mental health within the church community. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the profound impact of community support, the importance of acknowledgment in relationships, and the need for clergy to humanize themselves by sharing vulnerabilities. They explore the significance of timely gratitude and the lasting effects of kind words. The discussion also highlights the value of lay leadership and the vision for a welcoming future in the church, emphasizing that appreciation is a continuous practice that sustains relationships and ministry.   Announcements Clergy Day Apart - Thursday, Oct. 10, 2025  An Advent Retreat with Dr. Cynthia Weems: For Students, Teachers and Preachers of the Bible - Thursday, Nov. 13  The Serve Well newsletter on Clergy Appreciation eLead on Church Staff Appreciation Month

Summary In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, John and Jesse host Rev. Pam Carter, Wanda Musgrave and Rev. Wayner Dickert who discuss the complex realities of Haiti, the legacy of Dr. Maklin Eugene, and the transformative power of community-driven initiatives. They share personal stories of connection, resilience, and the ongoing challenges faced by the Haitian people. The conversation emphasizes the importance of building relationships, learning from failures, and continuing the work that Dr. Eugene started, even in his absence. The guests reflect on their experiences in Haiti, the joy found in the communities, and the hope for the future as they honor Dr. Eugene's legacy. Dr. Eugene Maklin: A Tireless Healer, Visionary Leader, and Beloved Friend Partners 4 Hope

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, we delve into the multifaceted role of Yadkin Valley's new district superintendent, Rev. Dr. Mark Conforti. Join us as we explore how this position blends administration with pastoral care, history with vision, and the strategic with the spiritual. Learn more about the ministries and opportunities of the Yadkin Valley District. Tune in for insights into the heart and mind of a leader committed to nurturing both clergy and laity in their spiritual journeys.

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Jesse Enniss and John Yeager discuss the importance of connection in ministry, especially during challenging times. They emphasize the need for clergy and lay leaders to engage with their communities, share stories of transformation, and embrace creativity in reimagining congregations. The conversation also highlights the significance of technology and financial stewardship in supporting ministry efforts. Ultimately, the hosts remind listeners that they are not alone in their journey and encourage open communication and connection within the church community.   Bishop Carter's AC2025 Sermon Bishop Carter's Substack Grinding the Beans United Methodist Foundation of Western NC Website WNCC Leadership Development Website WNCC Social Media Channels Contact us at jyeager@wnccumc.net or jenniss@wnccumc.net

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Reverend Jesse Enniss and Reverend John Yeager discuss the intersection of faith and civil disobedience, particularly in the context of the Moral Monday Movement. Special guest Reverend Joel Simpson shares his personal experiences of activism, including his participation in protests and the significance of community engagement in the fight for justice. The conversation highlights the importance of being actively engaged in faith and standing against injustice, encouraging listeners to find their own ways to participate in social activism. They explore historical examples of civil disobedience in the Bible, the role of clergy in advocating for social justice, and the impact of recent budget cuts on vulnerable communities. Show Notes: News Story Poor Man's Campaign Moral Mondays Repairers of the Breach Event  

In this episode of Means of Grace, host Reverend John Yeager is joined by Bishop Ken Carter and Reverend Kim Ingram to reflect on the recent Annual Conference held at Lake Junaluska. They discuss the significance of the location, the moments of holy conferencing, and the impact of Hurricane Helene on the community. The conversation highlights the importance of youth ministry, the recent uptick in ordinations, and the need for diversity and inclusion within the church. They also address constitutional amendments and the vision for a healing-centered church that prioritizes justice and community connection.   Show Notes: Beyond 2025 Annual Conference 2025 WNCC Creation Care Ministry Camps and Retreats Disaster Ministries Trauma and Conflict: Resources for Healing  

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Reverend Jesse Enniss and Reverend John Yeager celebrate Jesse's graduation from Duke Divinity School and reflect on their experiences in seminary and ministry. The conversation also touches on the ongoing journey of learning and the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead for clergy in the United Methodist Church. They delve into the significance of ordination and the various amendments being proposed at the upcoming Annual Conference, including issues of inclusiveness, racial justice, and voting qualifications for clergy. The dialogue highlights the need for adaptability within the church while maintaining core beliefs, and the importance of clergy supporting one another in their journeys. Visit ac2025.org for more information on Annual Conference.  Learn more about the AC2025 Constitutional Amendments. 

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Jesse Enniss, John Yeager, and Reverend Dan Pezet explore the deeper meanings of Easter, emphasizing that it is not merely a celebration of traditions but a profound invitation to embrace hope, transformation, and the reality of resurrection. They discuss the importance of recognizing change in identity, the healing power of letting go, and the necessity for churches to adapt to current realities. The conversation highlights the significance of living as 'resurrection people' and finding joy amidst grief, ultimately encouraging listeners to embrace the wisdom of closure and the potential for new beginnings. This conversation explores the themes of change, personal growth, and legacy within church leadership. They discuss the importance of embracing change, the challenges of navigating transitions, and the lessons learned from failures. The conversation culminates in a vision for the church's future, emphasizing the need for connection and collaboration in a rapidly changing landscape. Show Notes: You Only Have to Die: Leading Your Congregation to New Life by James A. Harnish Means of Grace Ep. 147: Peace Conference 2025 with Beth Crissman Chapters 03:50 The Ship of Theseus: Identity and Change 09:38 Living as Resurrection People 45:30 Epic Fails 52:42 Dreaming Big for the Future of the Church

This edition of the Means of Grace features a conversation with Rev. Joel Simpson, pastor of First UMC in Taylorsville, NC.  Joel has a heart for justice and the poor and marginalized. In May 2025, Joel, Shane Claiborne, and three other faith activists were arrested while protesting the GOP budget bill.    In April 2022, Joel, along with Shane Claiborne, led participants through the stations of the cross.  The stations included images that portrayed the execution of Jesus as painted by men awaiting their own execution of Tennessee's death row.  We talk about how that came about and how Joel and the church engage in justice ministries.    Show notes: Joel Simpson email to connect with him: jsimpson@wnccumc.net Holy Week exhibit: Are We Continuing to Execute Jesus? WNC United Methodists Grapple with the Death Penalty During Holy Week (wnccumc.org)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Poor People's Campaign: Poor People's Campaign – A National Call for Moral Revival (poorpeoplescampaign.org) Shane Claiborne : shane claiborne 957 mobile café - Home (957mobilecafe.org) Equal Justice Initiative Home (eji.org) advocates for criminal justice reform and racial justice. General Board of Church and Society GBCS Home • GBCS (umcjustice.org) Dontae Sharpe documentary: BBC News Channel - Justice Delayed

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, Jesse Enniss and John Yeager engage with Reverend Beth Crissman to reflect on the recent Peace Conference held at Lake Junaluska. They explore the themes of peace, action, reconciliation, and love, emphasizing the importance of confronting discomfort and fostering leadership for future generations. The conversation delves into the historical context of the Peace Conference, its evolution, and the critical role of mentorship in peace building efforts. The episode highlights the necessity of justice in achieving true peace and the challenges that come with it. The conversation explores the themes of inclusivity, confronting Christian nationalism, reflections on the Peace Conference, grassroots community organizing, future visions for peace gatherings, and learning from failures. Rev. Beth Crissman emphasizes the importance of inviting all faiths to the Peace Conference while acknowledging the need for the Christian community to confront its complicity in societal issues. The discussion highlights the success of the recent conference, the significance of grassroots organizing, and the vision for future peace initiatives within the United Methodist Church. Crissman also shares insights on leadership and the importance of learning from past mistakes.   Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Peace Conference and Its Themes 05:00 The Historical Context and Evolution of the Peace Conference 09:49 Reimagining the Peace Conference for Future Generations 14:59 The Role of Leadership and Mentorship in Peacebuilding 19:58 The Importance of Discomfort in the Journey to Peace 25:51 Inclusivity in the Peace Conference 29:10 Confronting Christian Nationalism 30:11 Reflections on the Peace Conference 36:04 Grassroots Community Organizing 37:26 Vision for Future Peace Conferences 43:40 Learning from Failures  

In this episode we revisit a great conversation that continues to edify us during the Lenten season.  In recognition of the Lenten season, Bishop Ken Carter interviews Dr. Clifton Black, an Elder in the Western North Carolina Conference and authority on the Gospel of Mark. A native North Carolinian, Dr. Black talks about the connection the Gospel of Mark has with the Lenten season, as well as what makes it stand out from the other three Gospels of the New Testament.   Learn more about the WNCC 2024 Lenten spiritual practices. 

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, hosts Jesse Enniss and John Yeager engage in a heartfelt conversation with Megan Habich, exploring the themes of Lent, wilderness experiences, and personal growth. They discuss the significance of introspection during Lent, the challenges of navigating difficult moments, and the importance of community support. Megan shares her insights on vocational discernment and the future of the church, emphasizing the need for a cultural shift towards recognizing everyone's calling. The conversation highlights the transformative power of embracing vulnerability and the journey of faith.   Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Wilderness Experience 04:25 Understanding Lent and Its Significance 10:04 Navigating Wilderness Moments 15:10 The Importance of Being Present 21:19 Overcoming Resistance to Introspection 25:50 Growing Through Adversity 27:39 Introspection and Personal Growth 29:52 The Journey of Parenthood 33:23 Embracing Control and Fear 38:39 Dreams for the Future of the Church 44:57 Strangely Heartwarming Stories 45:39 Epic Fails and Lessons Learned 46:58 Embracing Wilderness Moments  

In this episode of the Means of Grace podcast, hosts Jesse Enniss and John Yeager discuss their experiences at the Fresh Expressions Conference. They explore themes of connection, community, and the evolving nature of church, emphasizing the importance of listening to neighbors and adapting to new contexts. The conversation highlights the role of creativity in worship, the need for economic justice, and the concept of church leaders as 'sheepdogs' guiding their communities. The hosts reflect on the spirit of holy chaos that characterizes Fresh Expressions and the potential for transformation within established churches. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Fresh Expressions Conference 02:57 The Evolution of Church and Fresh Expressions 05:56 Experiences from the Fresh Expressions Conference 08:54 Creative Worship and Community Engagement 11:58 The Role of the Holy Spirit in Fresh Expressions 14:43 Personal Moments and Church Opportunities 17:40 Defining Fresh Expressions 20:35 Adapting Church Plans for Fresh Expressions 23:25 Conclusion and Reflections on the Conference 24:13 Conference Insights and Personal Experiences 27:08 Diverse Perspectives and Community Engagement 33:44 Fresh Expressions and the Future of Faith