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Two Queens And A Joker: My Narcissist's Ex And Me

Author: Brenda and Sara

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Two Queens and a Joker: My Narcissist’s Ex and Me is a bold and deeply personal podcast where two women, both survivors of the same narcissistic partner, come together to share their stories, break the silence, and heal out loud.


As parents to children with the same man, we unpack the chaos, confusion, and emotional damage of narcissistic abuse and the powerful friendship and growth that came from our shared truth.

With raw conversations, expert insights, and heartfelt support, this podcast is for anyone who’s been gaslit, discarded, trauma-bonded, or left wondering, “Was it really that bad?”


We’re here to say: yes, it was. But you’re not alone and healing is not only possible, it’s your right. 


Moving forward requires breaking free from old patterns and healing is a gradual process that takes time and self-reflection. We'll get there.

Narcissistic abuse leaves deep imprints on trust, relationships, and identity. Survivors often feel reclusive, anxious, and hypervigilant. But healing is possible. By rebuilding self-trust, noticing patterns, and taking small, steady steps toward connection, survivors can slowly allow safe people back into their lives.

The scars remain, but they don’t define the future. Survivors are not broken, they are rebuilding.

We specialize in helping survivors untangle the patterns of narcissistic abuse and recover their sense of self. Learn more at www.narctrauma.com.

Follow for support and resources:
Facebook: Narcissistic Abuse Recovery Center
TikTok: @narctraumarecovery
Instagram (Podcast): @2queensandajoker
Instagram (Recovery): @narcrecoverycenter


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Send us a text Summary: In this episode, we talk about why survivors stay so long in narcissistic and abusive relationships, and how kids can change the decision. Sara shares what it was like when her children finally told her what was happening behind the scenes, how isolation and self-doubt keep parents stuck, and what recovery looks like when a parent and kids become a team. Takeaways - The impact of children can be a significant reason for staying in toxic relationships. - Narcissi...
Send us a text Summary In this episode of 'Two Queens and a Joker', Brenda and Sara discuss the complexities of recognizing narcissistic abuse, the importance of community support, and the power of language in healing. They share personal experiences and insights on how to identify abuse, the struggle with self-doubt, and the significance of open communication with loved ones. The conversation emphasizes the need for empowerment and the importance of acknowledging one's experiences as valid. ...
Send us a text SUMMARY In this episode, Brenda and Sara delve into the complexities of narcissism, exploring its impact on relationships and emotional well-being. They discuss the phenomenon of narcissistic collapse, emotional immaturity, and the cycle of abuse, while also reflecting on their personal experiences. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, support, and the need for open dialogue about mental health issues. They invite listeners to engage with their stories ...
Send us a text Summary In this episode, Brenda Stephens, a licensed therapist specializing in narcissistic abuse, discusses the challenges faced by adult children of narcissists. She addresses common questions and concerns, including the impact of narcissistic parenting on self-perception, the importance of setting boundaries, and the emotional struggles that arise from such family dynamics. Brenda emphasizes the need for healing through self-awareness, emotional regulation, and the establish...
Send us a text SUMMARY In this episode, Brenda, a licensed therapist, discusses the complexities of relationships with narcissistic individuals. She explores why individuals stay in such relationships, the psychological mechanisms at play, including intermittent reinforcement and trauma bonding, and the emotional turmoil experienced during and after leaving. Brenda emphasizes the importance of understanding these dynamics for healing and offers insights on supporting children in these situat...
Send us a text Summary In this conversation, Brenda discusses the essential aspects of therapy for survivors of narcissistic abuse. She emphasizes the importance of finding the right therapist, understanding what to expect in the first few sessions, and the healing process that often feels overwhelming. Brenda highlights the need for self-trust, emotional regulation, and the rebuilding of identity as crucial components of recovery. She also stresses the significance of community and the role...
Send us a text TakeawaysTherapists can also fall victim to narcissistic abuse.Empathy can lead to enabling narcissistic behavior.Narcissists often manipulate even trained professionals.Shame is a common burden for survivors of narcissistic abuse.Recognizing subtle signs of narcissism is crucial for healing.Self-care is essential for recovery from narcissistic relationships.The cycle of emotional highs and lows can be addictive.Physical health issues can stem from emotional trauma.Community su...
Send us a text SUMMARY In this episode, Brenda and Sara discuss their experiences with narcissistic relationships, focusing on the impact these relationships have on children and the challenges of parenting. They explore themes of trust, communication, and the importance of love in parenting, while also addressing feelings of guilt and the effects of parental alienation. The conversation emphasizes the need for reliable support systems and the courage required to navigate the complexities of ...
Send us a text Summary In this conversation, Brenda and Sara explore various themes including personal growth, the challenges of navigating relationships, and the impact of narcissism on self-worth and communication. They reflect on their experiences with hiking, family traditions, and being low maintenance. The discussion also moves into the complexities of parenting, the struggles of being under scrutiny, and the journey of healing from toxic relationships. Ultimately, they emphasize ...
Send us a text Summary In this episode, Brenda and Sara speak with Joe Dillon (www.equitablemediation.com), a divorce mediator, to explore the complexities of divorce mediation, particularly in high-conflict situations involving narcissistic personalities. Joe shares insights on the importance of emotional intelligence in mediation, the assessment process for determining suitability for mediation, and the techniques used to manage difficult personalities. The conversation also highlights the ...
Send us a text In this episode, Brenda, Sara, and Kisha Reynolds discuss the complexities of narcissistic abuse and trauma recovery. Kisha, a certified clinical hypnotherapist, shares her insights on how hypnotherapy can aid in healing from trauma, the importance of setting healthy boundaries, and the role of forgiveness in the recovery process. The conversation emphasizes the need for self-care and personal empowerment, encouraging listeners to prioritize their well being and recognize their...
Send us a text Summary In this episode of Two Queens and a Joker: My Narcissist's Ex and Me, Brenda and Sara discuss the complexities of narcissistic abuse recovery, focusing on the challenges faced by parents dealing with narcissistic ex-partners. They discuss the impact of narcissism on parenting, the struggles with child support and financial issues, the inadequacies of the court system in addressing emotional abuse, and the importance of finding strength and resilience in the face o...
Send us a text Summary In this episode, Brenda and Sara explore the complexities of recovering from narcissistic abuse, focusing on the journey of self-discovery and healing. They discuss the challenges of rediscovering one's identity after years of manipulation, the importance of setting boundaries, and the necessity of self-care. The conversation emphasizes the emotional and psychological hurdles survivors face, including trust issues and the process of grieving the loss of the relationship...
Send us a text Summary In this episode, Sara and I open up about shame, trauma, and what it really means to lose yourself in a narcissistic relationship. We talk honestly about our own experiences, the pain, the patterns, and the shame that keeps so many survivors silent. We also unpack the struggles of co-parenting with a narcissist, the role addiction can play, and why honesty with yourself and others is such a big part of healing. This one’s about reclaiming your voice, finding support, an...
Send us a text In this conversation, Brenda and Sara examine the complexities of covert narcissism, exploring its subtle yet damaging effects on relationships. They discuss the characteristics of covert narcissists, how they manipulate their partners, and the emotional toll it takes on those involved. The conversation also contrasts covert narcissism with overt narcissism, highlighting the differences in behavior and impact. Through personal anecdotes, they illustrate the challenges of recogn...
Send us a text If you need support, Contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline https://www.thehotline.org/ In this episode, Brenda and Sara dive deep into the tangled intersection of narcissistic abuse and divorce, unpacking how these dynamics create a perfect storm of emotional exhaustion and legal chaos. Through raw personal stories and professional insight, they shed light on why clear boundaries and strong support systems are essential for survival and recovery. They break down ...
Send us a text In this episode of Two Queens and a Joker: My Narcissist's Ex and Me @2Queens_Joker Brenda and Sara explore the complexities of relationships with narcissists, focusing on themes of intimacy issues, self-image, and the impact of narcissism on special occasions. They share personal experiences and insights, exploring how these dynamics affect emotional well-being and relationships. The conversation also touches on the prevalence of addiction among narcissists and the underlying ...
Send us a text In this episode of Two Queens and a Joker: My Narcissist's Ex and Me, Brenda and Sara explore the neuroscience of narcissism, exploring how the brain's wiring affects empathy and emotional connection. They discuss the differences between feeling and thinking empathy, the implications for survivors of narcissistic abuse, and the potential for healing through understanding and therapy. The conversation emphasizes that while narcissists may have a different brain structure, it doe...
Send us a text SUMMARY In this episode of Two Queens and a Joker: My Narcissist's Ex and Me https://www.youtube.com/@2Queens_Joker Brenda and Sara discuss the complexities of moving on from narcissistic relationships and the challenges of building new connections. They explore themes of trust, emotional safety, and the impact of introversion on relationships. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-trust and recognizing patterns in relationships to foster healthier conn...
Send us a text In this conversation, Brenda, a therapist, discusses the complexities of relationships with narcissists, emphasizing the confusion and emotional turmoil experienced by those involved. She explains the concept of limerence, the narcissist's manipulative behaviors, and the false promises of change that often follow a breakup. Brenda encourages listeners to recognize patterns of behavior and prioritize their own healing and self-worth, ultimately advocating for empowerment and the...
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