Deseret Voices

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with Washington Post columnist Shadi Hamid to dissect the escalating conflict with Iran and the controversial pursuit of regime change. Following the seismic military strikes that claimed the life of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Hamid — author of the provocative new book “The Case for American Power” — explores the moral and strategic contradictions of U.S. intervention in foreign countries. Drawing on his unique perspective as an American Muslim, Hamid traces his personal journey toward reluctantly embracing American dominance as the world's "best hope" against rising authoritarianism in China and Russia. Key topics discussed in this episode: The Death of Khamenei: Why the Trump administration targeted the Iranian leader and the unpredictable consequences for regional stability. Democracy vs. Autocracy: The core argument for why American hegemony, despite its deep flaws, remains a moral necessity. The "Day After" Problem: Critiquing the lack of a stabilization plan for a post-regime Iran. The Israel Factor: Assessing the influence of regional allies on U.S. military decision-making.  

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins sits down with AJ Dybantsa, the 6-foot-9 phenom who has taken college basketball by storm. While the rest of the sports world has already labeled him the consensus projected No. 1 overall pick, AJ reveals a bombshell in this conversation: He might not be ready to leave BYU. Driven by a promise to his mother to prioritize his education and earn a degree, the most coveted amateur player in the world explains why he is weighing a return to Provo for another season. In this episode, we discuss: The Exclusive Revelation: For the first time, AJ discusses the possibility of bypassing the 2026 NBA draft to stay at BYU. The "Maniac" Mindset: Why AJ admits he "hates losing more than he loves winning" and how that ferocity translates to his 25.1 ppg national scoring lead. Pro-Level Mentorship: AJ opens up about his competitive relationship with Russell Westbrook and the advice he’s received from stars like Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Championship or Bust: Why individual accolades mean nothing to him without a deep March Madness run for the Cougars.  

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Deseret News reporter Lottie Elizabeth Johnson sits down with advocate and survivor Elizabeth Smart to discuss her journey of reclaiming her narrative through the 2026 Netflix documentary “Kidnapped: Elizabeth Smart.” Smart reflects on the transition from the "mental chains" of her 2002 abduction to the "triumphant" feeling of finally shining a light on her captors' secrets. The conversation explores the healing process, the importance of being believed, and Smart’s mission to provide personal safety training through her Smart Defense program at Utah universities.  Beyond the headlines, Smart shares heartfelt advice for parents on teaching body autonomy and unconditional love to the next generation. Join us for a powerful look at resilience, the gift of choice, and why Smart is most proud of the happy life she has built today. If today’s conversation moved you, please consider sharing this episode with a friend or a parent who might need to hear Smart’s message. You can also follow us on social media for more highlights from the interview. If you want to support Smart’s mission directly, visit the Elizabeth Smart Foundation website to learn more about their advocacy and safety programs. Lastly, if you are a survivor in need of support, please refer to the resources listed in our show notes. You are not alone, and your value is unshakable.     Resources & Links The Elizabeth Smart Foundation: The official site for Elizabeth’s advocacy work, including the Smart Defense program. Link: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/ RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network): The nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization. National Sexual Assault Hotline: 800-656-HOPE Smart Defense Training: Information on the accredited self-defense courses available at Utah public universities. Link: https://www.elizabethsmartfoundation.org/smart-defense Elizabeth Smart’s YouTube Channel: Watch the video series where Elizabeth revisits Dry Creek Canyon and discusses the "mental chains" of trauma. Link: https://www.youtube.com/@elizabethsmartchannel Learn more about the documentary Elizabeth Smart: Finding Justice.

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," guest host Sarah Jane Weaver, editor of the Deseret News, speaks with esteemed scholars Robert P. George and Dr. Cornel West about their unique friendship and shared commitment to intellectual and moral exploration. Despite their differing ideologies, George and West exemplify how friendship can thrive on mutual respect and love for deep truths. They discuss the importance of transcendence, intellectual curiosity, and the distinction between career and vocation. The conversation touches on pivotal topics such as the significance of character in society, the true essence of education, and the enduring values worth nurturing among younger generations. Through their animated discussion, they model how civil discourse and love can bridge differences in today's polarized world. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On Feb. 12 Elder Clark G. Gilbert was called as a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, trading a lifetime career in management and innovation, for a lifetime calling as a special witness of Jesus Christ.  Elder Gilbert’s service and expertise in academia, business and media — as well as his roles as commissioner of the Church Educational System and president of BYU-Idaho and BYU-Pathway — have prepared him for his new calling. On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Elder Gilbert joins journalist Jane Clayson Johnson to talk about his apostolic call, polarization in the world, and the recent criticism he has received from some corners of the media. He also shares lessons that have shaped him and, drawing on his experience in educational administration, he addresses the most pressing spiritual questions and pressures facing young people today. Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins sits down to interview Jeff Flake, a former U.S. ambassador to Turkey and ex-senator, for an insightful discussion on America’s role in global politics. Flake shares firsthand experiences as an American diplomat, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the thoughts and concerns of international leaders regarding U.S. politics. They discuss the implications of shifting global leadership dynamics and how America's policies under different administrations have evolved, influencing the international stage. Dive deep into critical topics such as NATO’s challenges in 2026 and the transformation within the GOP, particularly the rise of populism and its impact on foreign policy. Flake provides a unique perspective on the necessity of American soft power and diplomacy in navigating global challenges. Whether you're interested in international relations, political strategy, or just want to understand how other countries view America, this episode promises engaging insights and thoughtful discussion. Tune in to uncover why maintaining robust global relationships is paramount for America's future. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).  

In this episode of "Deseret Voices," guest host Sheri Dew, Executive Vice President of Deseret Management Corporation, sits down with Catherine Raney Norman, a four-time Olympian and current vice president of Development and Athlete Relations for the 2034 Winter Games in Utah. Catherine shares her inspiring journey from a young speedskater to an influential advocate for athletes, detailing how her Olympic experiences have shaped her life and career. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

Bitter debate and violent confrontations continue to fracture the United States as American's polarized and complicated view of immigration war wages at the borders and in our streets.  Alarming reports and videos are coming out of centers of protests and division, including the recent deadly shooting of a Minneapolis man by Border Patrol; the third shooting and second death since federal officers have faced protesters in that midwestern city.  On this episode of "Deseret Voices," Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Caitlin Dickerson of The Atlantic joins host McKay Coppins to discuss this boiling battle, how we got here, and what is the Trump administration's end game on this domestic warfront?  Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret)

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," professor Brad Wilcox, director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia and senior fellow of the Institute for Family Studies, addresses the growing affordability crisis threatening the American dream and the American Family. In a recent article written for the Deseret News, he dissects research on the crisis and discusses how public policy should be both reducing the cost of raising children and lending greater material support to families.  Where once a single-earner family could afford a home, transportation, education, healthcare, and a certain quality of life, as the cost of living soars, dual-income households are struggling to even make ends meet. In a world where income inequality and generational priorities have widened into an insurmountable chasm, what can and should be done on a governmental policy level to ease the economic burden on the family unit before it becomes obsolete?  Wilcox joins journalist Jane Clayson Johnson to discuss the real research, consequences, and potential solutions to the growing and costly crisis.  Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host McKay Coppins delves into the extraordinary life and legacy of Sen. Harry Reid, lawyer and former Majority Leader of the US Senate. In a conversation with Jon Ralston, author of “The Game Changer,” a new political biography about Reid, we discover how Reid rose from his humble beginnings in Searchlight, Nevada, to become one of the most influential political figures in America. Ralston gives an unmatched look at Reid's indomitable spirit, strategic prowess, and how he reshaped the Democratic party, leaving a lasting impact on American politics. He shares insights into Reid's controversial decisions, including invoking the nuclear option and his memorable entanglements with fellow Latter-day Saint Mitt Romney.  “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

The ousting of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro is one of those moments that invites a lot of strong opinions, and that becomes even more complicated once you start asking questions. Who is running Venezuela now? Will America try to overthrow regimes in Cuba or Colombia next? What does this tell us about President Donald Trump’s foreign policy positions? And what does it mean for the future of Venezuela and its people who have been living under a brutal dictatorship for more than a decade?  On this episode of “Deseret Voices,” McKay Coppins explores those questions with foreign policy expert Richard Fontaine, who has advised President George W. Bush and Sen. John McCain, and who now runs the Center for a New American Security (CNAS), a think tank in Washington, D.C.  “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," join Jane Clayson Johnson for a compelling conversation with Dr. Lynn Bufka from the American Psychological Association. As we step into the new year, they dive into insights from the 2025 Stress in America survey, unpacking the complexities of how societal division, disconnection, and loneliness are affecting our stress levels more than ever.  This discussion offers tips on how to foster connection with others and build resilience, challenging listeners to rethink their interactions in an increasingly disconnected world for their new year’s resolutions.   Tune in for guidance on nurturing meaningful connections and reducing stress for a more connected, healthier new year. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," join host Jane Clayson Johnson as she welcomes Sharon Eubank, the global humanitarian director for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Sharon shares invaluable insights from her 28 years in global humanitarian work and her new book, "Doing Small Things with Great Love: How Everyday Humanitarians Are Changing the World." In this conversation, Sharon emphasizes the importance of local solutions, leveraging personal interests for community service, and the essentiality of listening over imposing solutions. You’ll gain practical tips on how to initiate meaningful change in your own community, cultivate a service-oriented mindset, and understand the profound impact of doing small things with great love. Whether you're looking to get involved in your community or seeking inspiration to serve, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge and motivation. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of “Deseret Voices,” host McKay Coppins is joined by political strategist and publisher of The Bulwark, Sarah Longwell, whose countless hours holding voter focus groups have given her an unparalleled insight into the mind of everyday Americans.  As a lifelong Republican, Sarah has navigated the complex world of political strategy and emerged as a leading voice in anti-Trump conservatism. Her research provides a fascinating perspective on how the Trump era has reshaped the conservative movement as well as American politics.  This episode examines the evolving definition of conservatism in America, the future of the GOP and what Democrats need to do to attract swing voters. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins sits down with author and New York Times columnist Ross Douthat to discuss cultural currents surrounding religion in contemporary secular societies. As Douthat shares his insights, he reflects on the unexpected openness he encountered towards religious discussions during a recent book tour and in his interactions with readers. This interview delves into Douthat's exploration of American culture's shifting attitudes towards spirituality, the evolving narrative of faith, and his arguments for religion’s relevance in modern life. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," James Walsh, a seasoned writer from New York Magazine known for his compelling insights into technology and higher education, Joins Jane Clayson Johnson to discuss his controversial piece, "Everyone is Cheating Their Way Through College," which has ignited a nationwide dialogue about the implications of generative AI in higher education.  Through this conversation, we delve into his findings and explore how tools such as ChatGPT and Claude are not only transforming but also challenging the traditional mechanisms of learning and evaluation in educational institutions. With AI tools for students becoming increasingly accessible, James reveals a stark reality — the ubiquitous use of technology to cut corners on assignments and exams. College students are using AI to write essays, code, and more, presenting what many believe to be the ultimate cheating tool in educational settings.  This episode sheds light on the perceptions and justifications students use to rationalize AI's academic presence and how educators are grappling with this new norm, struggling to detect AI-assisted work and maintain integrity in their classrooms. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson engages in a heartfelt conversation with Utah Valley University President Astrid Tuminez, exploring themes of resilience, grief, and personal transformation. Astrid opens up about the profound challenges she faced after the tragic and sudden loss of her husband, compounded by the Charlie Kirk assassination at UVU just months later.  Through a lens of vulnerability and strength, Astrid shares how she navigated these dual tragedies, embraced pain as a catalyst for growth, and led the UVU campus community toward healing and unity.  Astrid’s story is a powerful testament to the human spirit's ability to transform through trauma, offering hope and inspiration to listeners navigating their own paths through trauma and the grief cycle. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins is joined by Utah Gov. Spencer Cox, a seasoned political leader whose career has been unexpectedly thrust into the national spotlight. Cox has witnessed firsthand the insidious power of social media and its role in shaping — and often warping — our political discourse and personal lives. After the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk, Cox was not just responding to a crisis but confronted with a pivotal moment of decision: How would he utilize his platform amidst the national attention? Rather than delve into partisan blame games, he chose to call out the "cancer" of social media, the algorithms he deems as "evil," and the companies profiting from societal divisions. In this episode, we explore the rising phenomenon of political polarization exacerbated by technology, how social media platforms, initially hailed as revolutionary tools for connection, have become vehicles for division and strife. And the state of Utah’s fight to take on the top platforms to protect kids. “Deseret Voices” is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the “Deseret Voices” podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  “Deseret Voices” is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of “Deseret Voices” drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," McKay Coppins connects with Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., to explore the pressing issue of political violence in America. As someone intimately familiar with the impact of such violence, Kelly reflects on the recent tragic events at Utah Valley University and shares his perspective on what can be done to de-escalate the current political climate. They discuss the role of leadership in fostering unity, the challenges posed by economic inequality and social media, and the importance of cross-party collaboration. Listen as Kelly provides a candid and insightful discussion on the state of American democracy and the path forward. Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts.  Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).

On this episode of "Deseret Voices," host Jane Clayson Johnson sits down with Brigham Young University President Shane Reese and Vice President Keith Vorkink to explore the revolutionary changes in college athletics brought about by the NCAA's Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) ruling. The episode provides insight into how the school manages college football NIL deals, donor contributions, and upholds the BYU Honor Code amid these sweeping changes. Reese and Vorkink discuss how BYU athletics are strategically navigating this complex landscape while staying true to its mission and values. They delve into the impacts of revenue sharing in college football, the university's unique funding sources, the implications on team morale, and how BYU athletics maintains its distinction through its mission-centered approach. Deseret Voices is hosted by award-winning journalists McKay Coppins and Jane Clayson Johnson, who go beyond the headlines to explore the stories, people, and ideas shaping our world today. Through thoughtful, in-depth conversations, the Deseret Voices podcast brings clarity and common ground to the complex issues defining our time.  Deseret Voices is a Deseret News podcast, produced by Keira Farrimond, Creative Director - Video & Podcasts. Episodes of Deseret Voices drop every Thursday wherever you get your podcasts. Follow along and join the conversation on YouTube (@deseretnews), Instagram (@deseretnews), Facebook (@deseretnews) and X (@deseret).