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Author: TWFO Couple - Matt & Paige Robinson

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Till The Wheels Fall Off (TWFO) podcast is hosted by Matt and Paige Robinson. TWFO focuses primarily on the relationship dynamics between spouses and partners of alcoholics or addicts and ways to best navigate the difficulties of codependent, addicted, unstable, and narcissistic behavior. The program is enjoyable and informative for anyone seeking self-betterment, inspiration, perspective, or direction with themes ranging from boundaries, recovery, marriage, and parenting with tons of humor built in. With over twenty years of experience in codependency recovery, addiction recovery, mental health battles, and navigating life's hurdles, the duo offers a valuable and unique perspective that is both inspiring and relatable.

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Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Boundaries are the most requested topic we get, and most advice out there leaves people asking the same question: "Okay, but how do I actually do this?" This is Part 1 of a three-part Boundaries series, and we start where boundaries actually begin. With your values. Before you can decide what behavior you will tolerate, what is non negotiable, or what needs to change, you have to know what you stand for. Boundaries exist to defend what matters most to you....
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this Mindset Monday, I’m calling out the most common, most immature move men make after they finally start doing the bare minimum: demanding their spouse regulate perfectly while they’re still paying off a decade of damage. You don’t get to rack up the emotional debt and then complain about the interest rate. You don’t get to wreck the foundation and then cry about dust. We’ll talk about why spouses can’t “just flip the switch” (stress, hypervigilance, ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! The recovery world loves to talk about healing, but who is it really built for? This episode was originally released in May 2025, and we are bringing it back because the conversation is just as relevant now as it was then. In it, Matt and Paige take a hard look at what treatment centers, therapists, and traditional recovery programs often miss when it comes to spouses, partners, and families. Why are partners so quickly labeled codependent? Why is their an...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Today is a big one. Paige and I are celebrating 25 years together, and I’m recording this Mindset Monday in that headspace, reflective, grateful, and honestly a little stunned that we’ve lived so many lifetimes inside one relationship. We met at 14. I always knew we’d make it. I just didn’t realize how non-linear the path would be, or how much of the turbulence would come from my addiction, my selfishness, and my immaturity. So in this episode, I look back...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige explores why so many of us feel like we are constantly running out of time, even when nothing is actually on fire. From the nervous system’s need to stay in survival mode to the fear of making the wrong choice in relationships and life, Paige talks about what’s really behind that sense of urgency so many of us carry. If you’ve ever felt behind in life, stuck waiting for someone else to change, or afraid that yo...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! A listener posted a question in our free TWFO Facebook community that I’ve heard a hundred times in recovery spaces: “You have to separate the person from the addiction. That wasn’t them.” And I get why people love that line. It reduces shame, makes forgiveness feel possible, and gives families hope. But for a lot of spouses and partners, something about it doesn’t sit right… because they’ve seen the “good version” and the “destructive version” show up in ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Some mornings feel like a personal attack. You are late. You are out of coffee. The house is a mess. Your kid’s shirt is dirty. Your nervous system is already fried and suddenly it feels like the whole day is ruined. In this Paige’s Perspective, Paige reminds you that one bad moment is not a bad day. She explains why our nervous systems treat small chaos like danger, how survival mode makes everything feel heavier than it actually is, and why acting like e...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Your kids are watching you. Not in a cute way. In a blueprint way. In this episode, we talk about the moment that punched Matt in the gut: watching our son at practice miss a shot, make a shot, and immediately scan the room for Dad’s face. Like, “How should I feel about this?” That was the reminder we all need. We are the emotional thermostat in the room. We get into what kids pick up from us way earlier than people think, how our phones and work habits qu...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this Mindset Monday episode, the discussion takes on a common belief from men that sounds reasonable on the surface but falls apart under scrutiny: “Why should I have to change? You knew who I was when you married me.” The episode unpacks why this thinking misunderstands adulthood, freezes responsibility, and treats growth as betrayal. It explores why qualification never ends in any area of life and why relationships are no exception. From there, the fo...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! No one wants to be the villain. But what if being seen as the bad guy is actually a sign that you are growing? In this Paige’s Perspective episode, Paige reframes the idea of the villain era and explains why setting boundaries, taking care of yourself, and challenging old patterns can feel threatening to people who were comfortable with the old version of you. This episode is for anyone who feels broken, exhausted, unsure, or like they do not recognize the...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, Matt and Paige move through three conversations that are deeply connected and hard to ignore once you see them clearly. First, we talk about red flags that get mislabeled as “just the addiction.” Weaponized vows, religious guilt, control, degradation, chronic blame-shifting, intimidation, and verbal abuse are not substance issues. They are values issues. Next, we address fear, especially the anxiety that comes with co-parenting and l...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this Mindset Monday, I’m walking through a handful of quotes I found in an Instagram carousel and breaking down what they actually mean in real life. Not the fluffy, motivational poster version. The version that applies to sobriety, rebuilding trust, leaving the wrong situation, and becoming the kind of person who doesn’t just “get sober,” but actually grows up. We talk about why becoming your best self requires a lot of goodbyes, why you can’t heal in ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! The struggle is real, but it doesn’t have to control your life. In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige breaks down how everyday struggles like lack of motivation, emotional exhaustion, inconsistent routines, exercise resistance, comfort eating, and low energy can quietly become your identity if you let them. She shares practical mindset shifts that help you take action even when life feels hard. This episode also speaks directly to spouses and partn...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Trusting yourself sounds simple until you try to do it. If you grew up being told what to do, spent years in systems that trained you to follow rules, or lived in a relationship where you got second-guessed, criticized, or controlled, self-trust can feel impossible. So you outsource. You poll your friends. You Google. You ask the group chat. You ask ChatGPT. And little by little, you stop using the muscles that make you confident in your own decisions. In ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this Mindset Monday, Matt drops a handful of hard-earned lessons from the last month, pulled straight from the notes app, the place where the real thoughts live before the world distracts you out of them. He breaks down why boundaries are one of the most misunderstood concepts in relationships, and why they rarely fix an emotionally immature person, but often do deliver the clarity you have been avoiding. Then he tackles a brutal question for anyone stu...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In Part 3 of our anger series, we talk about the kind of anger that shows up after the relationship ends, when there’s more space, more clarity, and for a lot of people, a brutal realization of what you actually lived through. This is the anger that confuses you because you wanted peace. You thought leaving would automatically bring closure. But instead, your mind starts connecting dots: the patterns, the lies, the lost time, the double standard, the after...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Today’s episode is a re-release of one of Paige’s favorite Paige’s Perspective episodes, Even If - brought back with a new intro by Matt. This conversation gets to the heart of something we talk about often at TWFO: the difference between living in “what if” and learning how to live in “even if.” “What if” thinking keeps us stuck in fear, scanning the future for danger and trying to predict outcomes we can’t control. “Even if” shifts the focus back t...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this Mindset Monday, Matt talks about a gap in the recovery world that almost nobody wants to name: families are expected to learn everything about addiction, but addicts are rarely required to learn the same depth about the damage addiction causes on the other side. This episode breaks down what “support” actually looks like when trust has been destroyed by lying, gaslighting, hidden use, infidelity, or financial chaos. Matt explains why empathy is not...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Many partners expect relief when sobriety begins. Instead, they may feel confused, guilty, and angry when everything is finally going well. In this episode, Matt and Paige explore why anger often surfaces months or even years into recovery, not during the chaos itself. They break down how survival mode suppresses emotion, why the brain protects relationships through betrayal blindness, and how safety is often what allows buried feelings to finally emerge. ...
Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Most partners think they’re “holding someone accountable,” but what they’re really doing is chasing accountability, forcing awareness, and slipping into shaming without realizing it. This episode cuts through all of that. Paige breaks down the difference between identity attacks and behavior statements, why shame can be a driver for change but shaming never works, and how to communicate in a way that aligns with your values even when the person you’re talk...
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Nicole Brewer

I would seriously love to meet with you all when in McKinney!! My husband and I really enjoy this podcast as well as Tik Tok

Jun 18th
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Eva Winans Camp

matt, I want to challenge you regarding paige's car. maybe she doesn't want it to be a hot mess either. being a mom with kids ill tell you, she probably doesn't have control over it and has let go of it. maybe grab the kids and help her clean it out.

Jan 23rd
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