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Author: Hannah and Sarah Sturm

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Hannah and Sarah Sturm grew up in the same household, live in neighboring towns, and hang out all the time. But in one respect, they couldn’t be more different: Sarah is a professional cyclist while Hannah has spent most of her life successfully avoiding bikes at all costs. They both know that Sarah has a weird job, and Hannah isn’t afraid to ask the sorts of questions that most people in the bike world would be too embarrassed to ask. Why is there a Queen Stage but not a King Stage? How old is gravel racing? Does everyone pee in their chamois? And most importantly, why on earth would anyone choose this as a job? Join the Sturm sisters every week to hear them laugh about their vastly different careers, argue about their shared memories, and drop unfiltered takes on just about everything. 

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It’s been a big week in the sporting world. There was a football game at a Bad Bunny concert, Lindsey Vonn’s highly anticipated Olympic comeback was cut short after a horrific crash, and Girona is abuzz with angsty gravel pros getting ready for their first race of the season. The Sturms discuss all of this, including what they learned about football on Sunday, which states are actually in New England, and why the Super Bowl commercials were so bad this year. On a more serious note, they talk ...
There isn’t much going on in the world of bikes this week, so Sarah and Hannah are left to their own devices to incorporate sports into the episode. Luckily, the Winter Olympics are about to kick off, though there is some confusion about when the torch was lit, where it’s been, and how you pronounce Ancient Greece. Sarah has a handful of athletes she’s looking forward to watching and even managed to write some of them down. Hannah has been thinking a lot about peeing lately, ever since that r...
This week, the Sturms are discussing how teams might affect gravel racing, but their analysis has a lot more to do with mermaids and Martha Washington than actual cycling tactics. Hannah has a mind-blowing fact about male anatomy to share (with Dylan on hand to verify), and they have a moment of truth regarding a claim Sarah made about herself on a previous episode. Instagram: @talking.over.you TikTok: @talking.over.you.podcast
The Sturms are traveling this week, and luckily, that means that they can be joined by their friend Dani. She talks about meeting Sarah while racing cyclocross in the 2010s and her decision to step away from the professional side of the sport to pursue her non-cycling-related career. She also brings along one of her pet snakes. But first, Sarah and Hannah talk about trail etiquette, the Palm Springs airport, and Life Time’s decision to ban drop bars at Leadville. Shoutout to Easy Coffee Roast...
This week on the show, the Sturms are diving headfirst into the bike world again with the latest edition of techy talky. This time, they’re talking tires, which will either ruin them or reveal a surprising amount of knowledge. With only a few detours into the realms of F1, hockey smut, and thread counts, they manage to impart quite a bit of bike-related information. Dylan shows up a little late in the game for some fact-checking, but who needs it when Hannah turns out to be something of a gen...
This week on the show, the Sturms are talking about scheduling, namely the stressful yet necessary task of sifting through all the competing gravel events in the U.S. and abroad and choosing which to prioritise. They have some questions about names, whether Hannah is ready to be a spectator at some of the largest races, and if Sarah can do an Australian accent (she cannot). Then, they discuss the even more urgent topic of fast food. Which burger and soft drink combo tastes the best afte...
As the year draws to a close, the Sturm sisters are in very different headspaces. Hannah is all-in on reflecting on 2025 and looking ahead to the possibilities of the New Year, while Sarah is still pissed off that it rained on Christmas. She’s also pretty sure that 2025 was a failure for her on most fronts. In this episode, they pick through the wreckage of the past 12 months, argue over whether it’s more motivating to believe in yourself or fear failure, and answer a listener's question abou...
It’s festive season, and while many of us might be celebrating Christmas or Hanukkah, Hannah was gathered around a fire with 40 other people singing very earnestly about the solstice. Sarah has been thinking about venison, Alex Honnold, and a high-profile retirement from a young cyclist. Later, both sisters answer listener questions about sock length, zones, books, snacks, and crit racing. Shout out to RoadiD for sponsoring this episode. Head to roadid.com/talkingoveryou for 15% off you...
Sarah and Hannah are on their own again this week and they’re feeling nostalgic about the time Hannah ate dog food as a kid and that one year when they got laundry baskets for Hanukkah. Sarah also had a birthday this week which brings up some old grievances about being a December baby. Plus, they talk about the Tetris game of finding and maintaining sponsors as a gravel privateer. Instagram: @talking.over.you TikTok: @talking.over.you.podcast
When Iz King found out she was pregnant a year ago, she was in the middle of contract negotiations for another season as a pro gravel privateer. Throughout her pregnancy and the birth of her now three-month-old daughter, she navigated the opportunities and challenges posed by being one of the first prominent athletes in this niche of the sport to go through the experience. Iz joins Sarah and Hannah to share some real talk about what this past year has been like, from deciding when to te...
The day after Thanksgiving, Sarah and Hannah sat down with their mom, Margie (you might know her from the Spotify comments section), to set the record straight on various points of sibling rivalry, ask questions about her life as an artist and teacher, and talk over each other. Hannah is hormonal, Sarah is unpacking some rage issues, and Margie has an unconventional way of telling stories. Shout out to Road iD for sponsoring this episode. Head to www.roadid/talkingoveryou to get 15% off...
The Sturm sisters got down to business this week by going to the bank, and not surprisingly, hilarity ensued (at least for them). Sarah has also been taking full advantage of the off-season by getting back into mountain biking, and the results have been alarming enough that she’s pretty sure she needs glasses. Hannah has some book recommendations, a very NSFW Facebook Marketplace find, and some harsh feedback regarding Sarah’s recent appearance on a different podcast. In more serious te...
The Sturm sisters are back together in the studio this week and they have a lot to talk about. First up is the 2026 Life Time Grand Prix roster, which was announced last week and which, to Hannah’s shock, included Sarah. When the announcement came down, Sarah was in Mexico City getting a tattoo and had no idea if she’d made the list. Then, they talk about the importance of taking breaks, even from your favorite hobbies. Hannah’s relationship with tattooing is evolving, and it’s got both Sturm...
Sarah is in Mexico City this week at yet another wedding and has had a blissfully bike-free few days. Hannah, meanwhile, has gotten back into running thanks to all that New York City Marathon talk last week. In this episode, the Sturm sisters chat about Sarah’s experience in her new favorite city, her time in the baby PeaceCorps in high school, and Hannah’s re-entry into running. Then, they dive deep into the challenges of being a female pro athlete in your mid-30s, including the decision abo...
Both Sarah and Hannah were busy attending weddings last week and they returned with stories to tell, including one that involves multiple instances of outdoor nudity. Hannah’s trip contained both packrafting and a day in Vegas, while Sarah’s involved a plane companion so unpleasant that it ruined her anniversary. Later, they discuss pet wrangling, Gravel Burn, and Sarah’s mysterious rash, but mostly, they just want to spread un-fact-checked thoughts on the New York City Marathon. Use co...
It’s Halloween week, and you better believe that the Sturm sisters have dressed accordingly. Sarah is settling into her off-season, Hannah is headed to Vegas, and they’re both still a little prickly about a scheduling conflict they had to sort out before sitting down to record. They reminisce over some of their favourite Halloween costumes, discuss the big changes coming to the Life Time Grand Prix in 2026, and contemplate various gender inequities in the sport. Tangents include sex dungeons,...
This week, the Sturm sisters welcome their first guest, Sarah’s mechanic/husband, Dylan Stucki. He’s here to tell everyone exactly how difficult Sarah is to live and work with, and Hannah is here to make sure he doesn’t skimp on details. He also provides a peak behind the scenes on what it’s like to be the support crew during elite races. But first, Sarah recaps Big Sugar, her final race of the season, which was cut from 100 miles to 50 miles due to weather. More importantly, though, she talk...
The Sturms are back in the studio this week and have a lot to catch up on. Hannah went to Albuquerque and got a dulcimer update, Sarah flew business class back to the US from Spain, and both of them are feeling reflective about the career paths they could have taken in an alternate life. In the realm of bikes, they get in way over their heads trying to explain (and define) chain waxing, from crock pots and Vegas to a word that neither of them can pronounce. Then, they dig into all the cycling...
Sarah is still in Spain, but instead of lining up for her own race this week, she was busy chasing Alex Roszko up and down mountains (on foot, no less) trying to get the perfect shot of Dylan during his enduro race. Hannah is gearing up for a trip to Albuquerque but was, unfortunately, home long enough to have a toe-curlingly awkward conversation with her doctor while getting her blood drawn. The sisters sat down to hash out their weeks, discuss the latest world championships in cycling, and ...
Sarah is finally racing again, and her latest event was a big one — Ranxo Gravel in Spain, the final round of the Gravel Earth Series. Meanwhile, Hannah has been busy dealing with business stuff, reading memoirs, and making her own hair gel. They sit down this week to recap Sarah’s race, including her time in Spain, her unsuccessful efforts at speaking the local language, and what she’s learned about how not to look like an American while in Europe. Then, Hannah tries to explain some sign lan...
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