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Beyond the Habit
Beyond the Habit
Author: Sister Erin McDonald and Sister Colleen Gibson
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A podcast moving beyond everyday assumptions of what it means to be Catholic, find common ground, create unity, and talk about real life issues, hosted by two Catholic Sisters.
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In our final episode of the season, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview writer and contemplative in action, Cameron Bellm. They discuss moving through the darkness, how returning to stories can help us find new things in the text, and Cameron's latest book, a devotional entitled Entering the Night of Peace: Reflections for Advent and Christmas. Listen today! Resources: Learn more about Cameron.Find Cameron's books.
In this episode, Sisters Erin McDonald and Colleen Gibson interview Dr. Phyllis Zagano, one of the world's foremost experts in women in the diaconate. They talk about the importance of prayer in all parts of life, if women can image Christ, and what's possible and probable in terms of ordaining women deacons. Listen today! Resources: Learn more about Phyllis here.Find Phyllis's books here.
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen share "A Portrait of a Sister of St. Joseph" and talk about what it means to them. They discuss the "tiny virtues" they carry as Sisters of St. Joseph in the chaos of the world today, and discuss the question of the future of religious life. Listen today! Resources: Read "Portrait of a Daughter of St. Joseph."Listen to our episode on undaunted joy with Shemaiah Gonzalez.See the icon of Mother St. John Fontbonne by Kelly Latimore.Listen to our episode ...
In this episode, Sisters Erin McDonald and Colleen Gibson interview Yunuen Trujillo, an immigration attorney, author, and LGBTQ ministry advocate. They talk about creating inclusive spaces, the importance of putting faith in action, and taking breaks as "spiritual healthcare." Listen today! Resources: Find Yunuen's book here.Follow her Instagram, LGBT Catholics, for resources here.
In this episode, Sisters Erin McDonald and Colleen Gibson interview Sister Libby Osgood, CND, an associate professor, aerospace engineer, and the editor and contributor of Green Saints for a Green Generation. They talk about what green saints can tell us about the world, being inspired to hope, and consider how we can green our own spirituality. Listen to the full episode today! Learn more about Green Saints for a Green Generation.
In this episode, Sisters Erin McDonald and Colleen Gibson interview Brother Ken Homan, SJ. They discuss his work as a community organizer, the importance of the call to righteous anger, and talk about why history matters. Listen today! Resources: Learn more about Brother Ken.Check out our first Lightning round with Brother Ken in our highlight real from IFTJ 2024.
In this episode, Sisters Erin McDonald and Colleen Gibson interview writer Shemaiah Gonzalez. They discuss the transcendence of joy, the importance of being present with others, and Shemaiah's new book, Undaunted Joy: The Revolutionary Act of Cultivating Delight. Listen today! Resources: Find Undaunted Joy here.See the Tired Moms at the Met video Shemaiah mentions.
In our first episode of Season Seven, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview Vatican correspondent, author, and podcast host, Colleen Dulle. They discuss their hopes for Pope Leo’s papacy, balancing faith and journalism, and Colleen’s new book, Struck Down, Not Destroyed. Listen today! Resources: Check out Colleen’s book.Read some of Colleen’s work for America Magazine.Learn more about Colleen.Watch Sisters Erin and Colleen on CNN.
In our final episode of the season, Sisters Erin and Colleen share their recommendations for the summer! From books and podcasts to music and things to watch, the sisters talk about what they're looking forward to this summer, and what you might enjoy too! Find the full list of the sisters recommendations, including links, at our website here: https://beyondthehabitpod.com/blog/
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview Sister Simone Campbell, a Sister of Social Service and former Executive Director of Network Lobby for Catholic Social Justice. They talk about the communal nature of hope, the need for collective action in addressing societal issues, and why she introduces herself, in part, as a troublemaker. Listen today!
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview José-Arnulfo Cabrera, the Deputy Director of National Policy & Campaign at the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights. They talk about José's advocacy work, how his faith has influenced his life, and his own immigration story. Listen today! Resources: Learn more about José's work at CHIRLA.Find more information on the other immigration work mentioned in this episode, and ways you can take action at:NETWORK LobbyIgnatian Solidarity N...
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen once again speak with Eric Clayton, author of the new book Finding Peace Here and Now and co-author of the new children's book Our Mother Too: Mary Embraces the World with Shannon K. Evans. They talk about the importance of peacemaking in an unpeaceful world, why kids books are more fun when they're interesting, and sinking into who God wants us to be. Listen today! Resources: Find all of Eric’s Books Here.Find the children's book Our Mother To...
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview Serena Martin, the Executive Director of New Hour, a nonprofit dedicated to supporting women and children impacted by incarceration. They talk about sharing stories as a form of advocacy, the importance of lifting up community support, and ways to provide hope to women who have experienced incarceration. Resources: Learn more about New HourRead about the CARE Act for incarcerated mothers.
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview John Dougherty, writer of the weekly column The Catholic Movie Club for America magazine. They talk about the ways sisters have been portrayed in films and television over the years, how films can impact our spiritual lives, and the power of stories. Listen today! Resources: Find the Catholic Movie Club column here.Learn more about John and his writing here.
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview Cory Johnson, a Jesuit Volunteer in Anchorage, Alaska, where he serves as an environmental justice advocate and lives in an intentional community with three other young men. They talk about building spaces of mutual relationships, the importance of trying to not "keep score" in community, and the journey to being a Jesuit Volunteer. Listen today! Learn more about the Jesuit Volunteer Corps Northwest.
In our first episode of Season Six, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview theologian, author, and podcaster, Dan Horan. They discuss Dan's journey from religious life to life as a lay Catholic theologian, the vulnerability of discernment, the role of community, and the importance of being your authentic self. Resources: Learn more about Dan here.Read Dan's Column in NCR on leaving religious life here.
In our final episode of the season, Sisters Erin and Colleen have a conversation with Sister Sarah Simmons about Advent. They talk about their own traditions, the ways they pray during Advent, and the importance of slowing down and being present during this time of year. Listen today! Looking for more Advent? Check out last years Advent episode with Sister Betsy Conway.Find our Advent Playlist on Spotify.
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview Krista Bailey Murphy and Sister Michelle Lesher, who recently took part in a pilgrimage on a heritage journey to Le Puy, France, the founding location of the Sisters of St. Joseph. They talk about what it means to be a pilgrim, the communities we carry with us, and the gifts we have to give to the world. Listen today! Resources: Learn about Charism in Motion.Read about the Heritage of the Sisters of St. Joseph
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview Brother Matt Wooters, a Jesuit Brother currently working as the Assistant Director of Campus Ministry at John Carroll University. They talk about the importance of curiosity in building relationships, using humor to create community, and what it means to be a Brother. Sisters Erin and Colleen also talk about attending the Ignatian Family Teach-In for Justice. Listen today! Resources: Find Brother Matt on Instagram.Take the Beyond th...
In this episode, Sisters Erin and Colleen interview Samantha Povlock, founder of FemCatholic, an organization that seeks to educate, encourage, and empower Catholic women. They talk about the advocacy and education FemCatholic has been a part of around paid maternity leave within Catholic Institutions, the female centered sex education courses they offer, and the importance of creating community based spaces for women to have important conversations. Listen today! Resources: Learn more...























