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Author: Jo Zakany | Coach for Classical Musicians

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The MindfulOpus podcast is where we switch from Grind to Kind in our artistic process – so that artists like you can avoid burnout, ditch performance anxiety, and create a thriving, healthy life - on and off stage. The podcast is hosted by Jo Zakany, violist with The Cleveland Orchestra, yoga teacher, and coach for classical musicians.
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S2 Ep #2: On Perfectionism, Performance Anxiety, and the Purpose of Music   Perfectionism and performance anxiety are two forces that so many artists struggle with, often quietly and alone. In this conversation, I sit down with concert pianist, author, and New York Times contributor Jonathan Biss to explore the powerful connection between perfectionism, control, and anxiety in the lives of performers. Jonathan shares openly about his own experiences with perfectionism and how the pressure to never show weakness shaped his life both on and off stage.   In our conversation, we talk about why vulnerability is essential to meaningful performance, why perfectionism can lead to stagnation, and how learning to accept what we feel can create a profound sense of freedom as artists and as human beings. This conversation is honest, reflective, and deeply human. We explore what it means to pursue excellence without falling into the trap of perfectionism and how letting go of control can actually expand our artistry rather than limit it. I took so much away from this discussion and I hope you will too.   You'll discover: Why perfectionism and anxiety are deeply connected for many musicians and performers. How the fear of exposing weakness can fuel both perfectionism and performance anxiety. Jonathan's personal experience having a panic attack in the middle of a concert and what it taught him. How practicing acceptance can transform your relationship with anxiety on and off stage. Why vulnerability is essential for truly compelling performances. The difference between pursuing excellence and chasing perfection. How letting go of perfectionism can actually expand your artistry and creative freedom.   Learn more about Jonathan Biss, his book, and his upcoming album here: www.jonathanbiss.com   Interested in diving deeper into this work with me? Visit mindfulopus.com to learn how we can work together.   MindfulOpus has a video podcast! Visit our YouTube channel to watch: youtube.com/@mindfulopus   Come say hi over on Instagram @mindfulopus!
S2 Ep #1: As artists, it's easy to get caught up in the pressure to meet others' expectations, which can lead us to create in ways that feel disconnected from our true selves. In this episode, I'll guide you through a practical framework for discovering your personal values- the foundation for creating authentic, fulfilling, and sustainable art, both on and off stage. By uncovering and aligning with your values, you can shift from surviving to thriving in your artistry.   This episode will show you how to identify your values and use them as a guide to make decisions that feel true to who you are, both in your personal life and creative practice. Your artistry shouldn't come at the cost of your humanity, and by the end, you'll have the tools to create a life and art that truly reflect your authentic self.   You'll discover: Why values are essential for creating art that is authentic and aligned with who you truly are. How to identify what truly matters to you and use that clarity to guide your decisions, both on and off stage. How disconnecting from your values can lead to burnout and anxiety, and how aligning with them helps you thrive. How identifying and living by your values can help you break free from toxic grind culture. A step-by-step framework for discovering your core values.   Interested in diving deeper into this work with me? Visit mindfulopus.com to learn how we can work together.   MindfulOpus has a video podcast! Visit our YouTube channel to watch: youtube.com/@mindfulopus   Come say hi over on Instagram @mindfulopus!   
In this season, we're diving even deeper into the human behind the art, exploring how mindfulness, well-being, and authenticity are essential for creatives like you. If you're ready to move away from toxic grind culture and embrace a more balanced, empowered life, you're in the right place.   I'm Jo Zakany, violist with The Cleveland Orchestra, yoga teacher, and coach for classical musicians. Together, we'll explore how to create an inner compass that guides your artistic journey, empowering you to perform with purpose and clarity.    Over the next 10 episodes, we'll be exploring concepts, steps, and frameworks that help you create a life on your own terms. You'll learn how to stop shaping your life around other people's expectations and feel truly empowered in how you live and perform. I'm so excited to explore this next season with you!   New episodes drop every other Tuesday, available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you listen to podcasts.   And now, MindfulOpus has a video podcast! Visit our YouTube channel to watch: youtube.com/@mindfulopus   Come say hi! Follow us on Instagram @mindfulopus or visit mindfulopus.com for more updates and resources.
S1 Ep #10: A concertmaster's perspective on perfectionism, nerves, and the permission to be human In the season 1 finale of The MindfulOpus Podcast, I'm joined by my dad, Ron Patterson — world-class violinist, former concertmaster of the Monte-Carlo Philharmonic, Houston Symphony, and Miami Philharmonic (among others), member of Duo Patterson, and recently retired professor of violin at the University of Washington School of Music. In this conversation, we reflect on his life in music shaped by high standards, old-school training, and decades of high-stakes performance — and how Ron's relationship to perfectionism, nerves, and mistakes evolved over time.   In this episode, you'll hear: How his early musical training fueled his perfectionism — and how witnessing his idol make a mistake on stage released him and helped him find freedom.   The difference between high standards and perfection, and why confusing the two causes so much suffering   Ron's personal approach to handling nerves and pressure on stage   How meditation supported his mind, body, playing and health   The meaning behind his life philosophy, "stay in your boat" — and why rolling with life's obstacles makes for a better life, on and off stage   This episode is an invitation to take music seriously without seeing yourself so harshly — and to remember that your artistry doesn't have to come at the cost of your humanity. Timestamps: (04:15) early years: student, old school training (11:45) old vs. new school ideas around perfectionism (18:45) high vs. perfect standards, fear of failure, human moments (20:15) Heifetz "go for it" (22:50) nerves support, excited vs. nervous (27:12) meditation story, training with the Beatles Guru, relaxation (33:05) meditation for health support and pain management (35:26) flow of life/stay in your boat (39:17) being more than "just a musician" (44:00) choosing between Harvard math and USC violin with Heifetz (46:20) It's ok to have a hobby and turning your brain off (50:00) inner-critic, being on your own team (53:30) Piatagorsky, and suggestion to leave Heifetz story (59:45) favorite performance nerves trick 🙂 (61:30) Shit happens, roll with it (62:42) Rapid fires Thanks for being here for Season 1, and I'm happy to announce: Season 2 returns February 24th! Make sure you've added the show to your library so you get notified when our first episode drops, and to stay in touch in the meantime, come find me at: mindfulopus.com Instagram: @mindfulopus
S1 Ep #9: 7 tools to help you actually enjoy performing again In this episode, I share a compassionate, practical, and research-informed approach to one of the biggest challenges we face as performers: what to do when the nerves show up — on stage, in auditions, in big meetings, and in any moment that really matters. Building on the personal performance framework from last week's episode, I walk you through 7 powerful tools drawn from my decades as a performing artist and my work coaching high-level musicians. Each tool comes with a concrete exercise so you can begin shifting your relationship with nerves immediately — not by eliminating them, but by befriending them. In this episode, I share: (04:01) How to reconnect with your artistic "why" (05:38) How to reframe nervousness into excitement/pr> (06:45) How your core values can anchor your performance(08:04) How breathwork regulates your nervous system (10:37) How to use playfulness to soften anxiety (11:52) How to free yourself from perfectionism (13:09) And how befriending difficult emotions can actually improve your performance under pressure By the end of this episode, you'll walk away with seven tangible tools you can start using right away. So go apply these and make the most of that big moment coming up – Or, if you've simply found that nerves have taken away your love of performing on any scale, it's time to change that and bring that freedom of music-making back into your life. And, if you want some more individualized support, click the link below for a free consult: https://mindfulopus.com/#contact
S1 Ep #8: My two-part process to help you find clarity, confidence, and calm before any big artistic event What if preparing for a big performance didn't have to feel overwhelming, rigid, or all-consuming? In this episode, I'm sharing the exact framework I use with my coaching clients to help them create their own personal process — one that supports not just their playing, but supports them as a whole human — both leading up to a big event and on the day itself. Whether you're preparing for an audition, competition, recital, solo or orchestral feature, or any meaningful creative project, this episode will help you find more clarity, ease, and confidence in how you prepare — without defaulting to burnout or grind. In this episode, you'll learn: How to identify a target feeling to guide your preparation (instead of letting anxiety run the show) What to intentionally bring into your process — and what to leave out How to structure your prep using a whole-person approach, not just more practice How to build a supportive day-of plan that helps you feel grounded and ready, regardless of outcome What to include in your personal performance toolkit This episode is for you if: You're going for something important and feel unsure on how to best support yourself in your preparation You tend to overpractice, overthink, or obsess leading up to a bit event You want a process that supports both your standards AND your well-being You want a calmer, clearer, more enjoyable experience  — both on and off stage This is a practical, reflective episode — so you may want to grab a pen and paper, or save it to revisit later as needed. And if you decide you don't want to navigate this process alone: https://mindfulopus.com/#contact
S1 Ep #7: A story of reconnection, self-belief, and coming home to your art. What happens when you've spent years feeling like your playing is never good enough, you're disconnected from your art, or unsure whether this music-thing you once loved is still right for you? In this deep and meaningful conversation, violinist Lauren Roth-Gómez — Acting Associate Concertmaster of the Atlanta Symphony — shares the inner transformation that led her back to herself, her artistry, and her love of music. Lauren opens up about: Nearly walking away from the violin The internal pressures and perfectionism that buried her love for music Rebuilding self-worth from the inside out What it means to cultivate an inner coach How freedom became her guiding lighthouse The moment she realized her worth wasn't tied to a single note, run, or result Her career pivot rooted in creating a life aligned with her values How self-compassion — not self-criticism — became her most powerful performance tool Whether you're a musician, a creative, or someone who has ever questioned your path, Lauren's story is a reminder that you're allowed to evolve, to reconnect, and to come home to your art — one opus at a time…   Timestamps (00:00) - Introduction (02:19) - Interview begins (04:01) - Why Lauren chose coaching (07:00) - Ebb and flow of violin journey, and making it her own (11:30) - Tackling feelings of inadequacy, perfectionism and muddy waters (13:35) - Self-compassion (15:25) - Concerto moment: performance shift + self-worth (20:30) - Audition journey: inner coach + critic, resilience amidst obstacles (27:15) - The desire to win, balanced with with releasing any outcome (32:12) - Knowing yourself: self-determination, discipline, perseverance, fierce self-compassion (35:50) - Create the life you want: career pivot, values work, decisions from self-trust and self-love (42:10) - How being yourself is the best way to honor your teachers (45:48) - Rapid fire questions   Also - Come say hi! @mindfulopus on Instagram, or mindfulopus.com  
S1 Ep #6: When your worth depends on your results, and how that pressure leads to burnout. If your inner-critic has been running the show — the one that tells you you're only as worthy as your latest performance, audition result, or practice session — this episode is for you. In this conversation, I share the real cost of being your own worst critic: how tying your worth to your results quietly fuels burnout, anxiety, procrastination, and overworking. We'll look at what happens in your nervous system when you practice from a place of threat instead of safety, and why "pushing harder" stops working over time. From there, we start shifting from inner-critic to inner-coach. Drawing on the work of Dr. Kristin Neff, I'll walk you through the idea of self-compassion as inner resilience training — both the tender support that lets you rest, and the fierce support that helps you set boundaries, show up, and take brave action without the whip. You'll be invited to build your own inner-resilience toolbox for body, mind, and music, so you can work in a way that's sustainable and kind. In this episode, we explore: How tying your self-worth to your results is hurting you, on and off stage Why harsh self-criticism backfires (and actually blocks learning) The difference between judgment and data — and how to actually progress in a healthy way Tender vs. fierce self-compassion, and how both ways support your artistry and your life How to start creating your own inner-resilience toolbox so you can practice, perform, and live from a place of safety instead of fear Because when your worth is no longer tied to your artistic product, your nervous system can settle, your curiosity can return, and you create sustainable growth in a way that serves you long-term.   Listen on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube. Also - Come say hi! @mindfulopus on Instagram, or mindfulopus.com  
S1 Ep #5: A conversation around vulnerability, long-haul artistry, and the case for communication over perfection—through the lens of a 35-year run in one of the most high-pressure chairs in the orchestral world. In this episode, I sit down with my friend and musical hero, Joshua Smith—Grammy-nominated Principal Flute of The Cleveland Orchestra. We trace his early musical journey (yes, it all started with a cool flute case), how showtunes and theatre taught him phrasing and stage presence, and why he's not interested in perfection as a goal. Josh shares how curiosity helps him meet the pressures of a 35-year career, why he resists having a rigid "formula," and how meditation, yoga, and his recent sabbatical re-anchored him into his "beginner's mind". We also talk about his new audition books, The Audition Method and how his core artistic value – communication – has guided him all these years. Favorite quote: "You can't really have freedom and safety at the same time".   Who this is for If you're in a high-pressure performing environment and want to know how to cultivate a healthy long-term approach to high-standards and limitless curiosity and freedom in the process, this one's for you.   Timestamps (03:10) Early days in music (acting, musicals, phrasing, communication) (12:10) Life is the high-pressure chair (pressure, curiosity, authenticity, perfection, inner-critic,                shame, vulnerability, freedom)  (36:50) Yoga, meditation, sabbatical, hobbies + creativity, audition book (58:25) Rapid fires Mentioned Debussy: Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune Beethoven Symphony No. 9 Brené Brown on perfectionism & vulnerability Tara Brach (talks), Yoga Nidra Slow Horses (series) The Loneliness of Sonia and Sunny (novel) New York Times Book Review (podcast)   Guest Joshua Smith — Principal Flute, The Cleveland Orchestra (Grammy-nominated), author of The Audition Method (flute; series also includes clarinet & violin). IG: @JoshuaSoloFlute • Web: soloflute.com   Connect with me IG: @mindfulopus • Web: mindfulopus.com If this episode resonated, add the show to your library, give it 5 stars, leave a short review, or share it with a friend. You can also grab my free well-being resource on my website.
S1 Ep #4: If you've ever felt like music has taken over your entire life — the long hours, the pressure, the constant fear of not doing enough — this episode is for you. We've been taught that total dedication is the only path to mastery. But what if that belief is actually holding you back? In this episode, I introduce The MindfulOpus Well-Being Wheel — a framework designed to help musicians move from burnout to balance. You'll learn how nurturing all parts of your life — your music, mind, body, spirituality, hobby, social and rest  — can strengthen your focus, creativity, and performance. We'll explore: Why over-identifying with your art leads to exhaustion and self-criticism The science behind balance and sustainable high performance How to create space for your whole self, so you can play and live with more contentment – both on and off stage. Because when you care for the human behind the art, the art shines…   Episode Highlights (05:02) Music (09:29) Mind (12:29) Body (14:24) Spirituality (16:35) Hobby (18:59) Social (21:11) Rest Listen on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube Also - Come say hi! @mindfulopus on Instagram, or mindfulopus.com  
S1 Ep #3: A conversation around mindfulness, perfectionism, well-being, and rewriting the audition story from the inside out. In this powerful conversation, I sit down with James Patterson, Tredjestilling Horn (3rd/1st horn) player with the Oslo Philharmonic, to explore the intersection of mindfulness, performance, and the audition journey. James shares how mindfulness first became a steadying force for him during school—helping him manage stress, explore healthy hobbies, and cultivate balance beyond the practice room. But the heart of this episode lies in his story of transformation: from feeling trapped in perfectionism and all-or-nothing thinking to completely reimagining his approach to auditions—with his well-being front and center. We unpack what it means to decide to feel good in the process itself—and how that single mindset shift reshaped not just his preparation, but his entire experience. By rebuilding his audition process from the inside out, James discovered the curiosity and self-acceptance that ultimately led him to win two orchestral jobs back to back. We also talk about what life looks like after the audition—the ongoing practice of letting go of perfectionism, staying connected to music in new ways, and redefining what work-life balance can truly mean. Whether you're in audition mode, mentoring others, or navigating the day-to-day of professional performance, this episode offers practical insights and compassionate reminders about honoring yourself and your well-being—at every stage of your musical journey.   Episode Highlights (06:40) Mindfulness, school and supportive hobbies (18:52) Audition struggles (28:44) Audition 180 (43:31) Audition process breakdown (56:41) Post audition life, job +well-being exploration (59:44) Rapid fire questions   Also - Come say hi! @mindfulopus on Instagram, or mindfulopus.com  
The Perfection Trap

The Perfection Trap

2025-10-0719:00

S1 Ep #2: Are you chasing perfection...or pursuing excellence? In this episode of the MindfulOpus Podcast, I dive into one of the most common — and costly — mindsets musicians face: perfectionism. On the surface, perfection can feel like a motivator. But in reality, it's a trap that leads to performance anxiety, burnout, and a loss of joy in music-making long-term. I'll share why perfection isn't sustainable, and how excellence becomes the foundation for a career and life you can sustain.  Along the way, I'll bring in science-backed facts, and offer the Excellence over Perfection Framework that I use with 100% of my clients, to help you in how you show up in the practice room and on stage. I'll share five key concepts that can change how you approach your practice and your performance: High Score vs. Perfect Score — why shooting for less than 100% unlocks consistency and flow. Curiosity vs. Shame — how to meet mistakes with experimentation instead of self-criticism. Growth vs. Fixed Mindset — shifting from proving yourself to improving yourself. Inner Coach vs. Inner Critic — why your self-talk shapes your entire experience. Resilience vs. Burnout — how excellence supports a sustainable, healthy, creative career. And as a takeaway, I share a practical thought experiment that helps you spot the trap of perfection — and step confidently into excellence instead. My hope is that by the end, you'll see that letting go of perfection doesn't mean lowering your standards — it means pursuing them in a way that actually lasts.   TIMESTAMPS (04:18) 1st concept: high, not perfect score (05:43) 2nd concept: curiosity vs. shame (07:35) 3rd concept: growth over fixed mindset (10:18) 4th concept: inner-critic vs. inner-coach (12:48) 5th concept: resilience vs. burnout (16:03) Thought experiment   Also - Come say hi! @mindfulopus on Instagram, or mindfulopus.com    
S1 Ep #1: In the classical music world, we're often taught that struggle is the price of greatness. That if you just sacrifice a little more—your health, your time, your relationships—you'll finally get the result you've been chasing. But what if our artistry didn't have to come at the cost of our humanity? In this debut episode, I take you behind the curtain of my own journey - and when my biggest win also became your biggest wake-up call. From grueling childhood auditions in France, to winning my dream job at 21 and facing career-threatening injuries, I share how burnout forced me to find a new way forward. You'll hear how yoga, mindfulness, and coaching gave me a path back to health, balance, and presence—and why I now believe well-being isn't optional, but essential for creating both great art and a fulfilling life. By the end of this episode, you'll walk away with: A new perspective on why "grind culture" is unsustainable in classical music. A definition of well-being that goes beyond "getting by." Three simple reflection questions you can use today to check in with your own well-being. Reflection Questions from the Episode Where in my life am I neglecting my well-being the most? How is this affecting me—both on stage and off? What's one small shift I can make that feels manageable and sustainable? Also - Come say hi! @mindfulopus on Instagram, or mindfulopus.com
Hello and welcome to the MindulOpus podcast! I'm your host, Jo Zakany — violist with The Cleveland Orchestra, yoga teacher, and coach for classical musicians. Here, we switch from Grind to Kind in our artistic process – so that artists like you can avoid burnout, ditch performance anxiety, and create a thriving, healthy life -  on and off stage.  I'm so glad you're here! Let's get into it.   Season 1 is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and wherever you listen to podcasts. Episodes will be released every other Tuesday. Also - Come say hi! @mindfulopus on Instagram, or mindfulopus.com
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