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Author: Leigh Barganier

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Welcome to the Infinite Banking Initiative (IBI), a podcast from the Nelson Nash Institute, the official home of the Infinite Banking Concept and Becoming Your Own Banker. Hosted by David Stearns and Leigh Barganier. 

Visit our website at www.infinitebanking.org

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Shawn King

Shawn King

2026-02-0246:17

In this episode, Shawn King, an Authorized IBC practitioner from Milton, Florida, shares his journey discovering the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC), why he moved from IUL to whole life policies, and how small changes in financial behavior can create big outcomes over time. Shawn explains how managing your cash flow, leveraging policy loans, and thinking long-term can give you flexibility and security that traditional banking can’t provide. Stay Connected: 🌐 Visit us: www.infinitebanking...
Mark Hutchison

Mark Hutchison

2026-01-3049:35

In this episode, IBC Practitioner Mark Hutchinson shares his journey through major market crashes, including Black Monday, the dot-com crash, and the 2008 financial collapse. After seeing how traditional retirement accounts like 401(k)s and IRAs fail to provide true control, Mark discovered R. Nelson Nash’s Infinite Banking Concept (IBC). Now, he helps business owners and investors build a disciplined personal banking system that captures lost opportunities, maintains liquidity, and creates l...
Kyle Fuller

Kyle Fuller

2026-01-2238:30

Stop giving up control of the banking function in your life and learn how to manage your cash flow and behave like a banker. In this episode, Kyle Fuller of Factum Financial explains why the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) is about financing life, not chasing returns. After losing 40% of his Roth IRA in 2008, Kyle discovered R. Nelson Nash’s "Becoming Your Own Banker." Now, he helps families build a disciplined family banking system to control their money for generations, without ever treatin...
Pedro and Isis Palicio

Pedro and Isis Palicio

2026-01-1346:45

In this episode, Authorized IBC Practitioners Dr. Pedro Palicio and Isis Palicio, experienced financial advisors, share their journey from conventional planning to fully implementing IBC. They share how to take control of your financial future with Nelson Nash’s Infinite Banking Concept (IBC). Learn how to become your own banker and use dividend-paying whole life insurance policies to access cash value, manage cash flow, and control your personal banking system. Stay Connected: 🌐 ...
Michael Duryea

Michael Duryea

2026-01-0648:47

Most people focus on investments, but never question who performs the banking function in their lives. In this episode of the Infinite Banking Initiative, Authorized IBC Practitioner Michael Duryea joins us to discuss how a dividend-paying whole life insurance policy can be used as a strategic warehouse for capital. This is an educational conversation focused on the process of IBC, the importance of capital control, and how long-term stewardship is built through discipline—not hype. St...
Best Of IBI #1

Best Of IBI #1

2026-01-0622:10

What does it mean to "Become Your Own Banker?" In this episode, we share a collection of the best stories and lessons from the IBI. We look back at some of our most popular clips to show you how a dividend-paying whole life insurance policy can help you take control of your money. You will learn the mindset shifts needed to stop relying on outside banks and start using your own banking system to finance the things you need in life. Highlights include: The eye-opening real estate story that ...
Explore the personal story of Nelson Nash, the founder of the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC), as shared by his family. This episode offers a heartfelt look into the life of a man whose ideas have guided many toward financial clarity. Join Nelson's daughter, Kim Stearns, along with David Stearns, Leigh Barganier, and IBC practitioner Mary Jo Irmen, as they share their memories. They paint a picture of Nelson not just as a financial educator, but as a person who genuinely valued understanding ...
Colonel Mike Conner

Colonel Mike Conner

2025-12-1055:46

You were taught to save, but were you ever taught to become a banker? In this episode of the Infinite Banking Initiative, retired Air Force Colonel Mike Conner, a real estate investor, mentor, and authorized IBC Practitioner, shares the financial truths he discovered later in life. Mike explains why traditional financial advice failed him (and millions of Americans) and how properly structured high-cash-value whole life insurance became the foundation of his Generational Wealth System. Stay...
Kurt Berry

Kurt Berry

2025-12-0456:37

A family was told they could never afford their dream home. Years later, they moved in, all by applying the Infinite Banking Concept. How did this happen, and why did a 24-year financial advisor who used to teach “buy term and invest the difference” completely change his mind about whole life insurance? In this episode of the Infinite Banking Initiative, Authorized IBC Practitioner Kurt Berry shares Nelson Nash’s core idea and explains why properly designed whole life insurance can become t...
Stephen Devlin

Stephen Devlin

2025-11-2636:27

A defining moment in 2008. One book that changed everything. A financial philosophy that rebuilt a family and launched a calling. In this episode of the Infinite Banking Initiative, Authorized IBC Practitioner Stephen Devlin shares the deeply personal story of how he and his wife Michelle discovered Nelson Nash’s "Becoming Your Own Banker" at a critical crossroads. What began as a search for answers became a lifelong commitment to the Infinite Banking Concept, a process of stewardship, disci...
David Stearns and James Neathery of the Nelson Nash Institute (NNI) explain why dividend-paying Whole Life is the only structure Nelson Nash recommended to support the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC). You’ll learn: How Universal Life shifts performance and longevity risk to the policyholderWhy the Cost of Insurance (COI) rises over time, threatening long-term viabilityThe difference between illustration-based planning and contractual guaranteesWhy Whole Life’s cash value is guaranteed to equa...
Tricia Miller

Tricia Miller

2025-11-1049:06

In this episode of the Infinite Banking Initiative, Authorized IBC Practitioner Tricia Miller shares how she discovered the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) and used it to regain confidence, liquidity, and long-term stability in her finances. Drawing from the principles of Becoming Your Own Banker by R. Nelson Nash, Tricia explains that Infinite Banking isn’t an investment product; it’s a process of stewardship and understanding. By learning how money actually flows through your life, you...
Luke Tatum

Luke Tatum

2025-11-0451:40

How can you design a personal cash flow that provides both liquidity and control? Authorized IBC Practitioner Luke Tatum of Perfect Spiral Capital shares how applying the Infinite Banking Concept reshaped the way he saves, borrows, and finances everyday needs. His experience illustrates the shift from conventional financial planning toward a process of stewardship and long-term design. In this episode from the Nelson Nash Institute, explore how the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC), introduced i...
Joseph DeFazio

Joseph DeFazio

2025-10-2701:00:03

Most financial conversations start too late, focusing on how to invest, save, or allocate what’s left. But true financial understanding begins earlier: in recognizing the flow of money itself. This video features IBC Practitioner Joseph DeFazio, who shares how the Infinite Banking Concept reframes traditional planning by beginning where most systems end, at the point of cash flow. Explore how this approach aligns with stewardship, autonomy, and the timeless principles outlined in Becoming Y...
Jason Henderson

Jason Henderson

2025-10-2038:01

A PhD searching for a better way to think about money discovered Nelson Nash’s Becoming Your Own Banker - and it changed everything. In this episode, Jason Henderson, Authorized IBC Practitioner from Logan, Utah, shares how embracing the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) brought him financial clarity, family flexibility, and lasting control over his money. Jason’s story began with a desire to build a stronger financial foundation for his children. After reading Nelson Nash’s book, he reached ...
Julie Ann Hepburn

Julie Ann Hepburn

2025-10-1544:06

Julie Ann Hepburn was ready to walk away from the industry until one meeting with Nelson Nash and the first edition of "Becoming Your Own Banker" completely changed her path. What lesson inside that book was powerful enough to reignite her purpose and reshape her entire career? In this inspiring conversation, Julie Ann shares how discovering the Infinite Banking Concept® (IBC) transformed not only her approach to money - but also the lives of the families she serves. Stay Connected: 🌐...
Tom Laune

Tom Laune

2025-10-0755:05

Authorized IBC Practitioner Tom Laune of Bulletproof Wealth lost his career overnight… but what he built next changed how people think about money forever. After a freak studio accident ended his 29-year career in the music industry, Tom Laune discovered a strategy that didn’t just rebuild his finances; it made them bulletproof. Using the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC), Tom created his own private banking system, one that funds investments, protects income, and grows wealth without Wall Stre...
Kayur Shah

Kayur Shah

2025-09-3044:04

Engineer and Authorized IBC Practitioner Kayur Shah shares how he discovered the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC), moving from skeptic to believer, and how he’s used it to fund real estate, cars, and more while keeping full financial control. Kayur started out just like many others, unsure about anything related to insurance. While working in real estate, he first thought IBC was just another sales pitch. But after exploring Nelson Nash’s Becoming Your Own Banker, the logic clicked: IBC isn’t ...
Brent Kesler

Brent Kesler

2025-09-2401:00:08

Authorized IBC Practitioner Brent Kesler of The Money Multiplier was a Chiropractor and Chiropractic coach for over 14 years. After implementing the Infinite Banking Concept® (IBC), he paid off $984,711 in third-party debt in 39 months. Brent became so passionate about IBC that he started sharing it with others. After his mentor pointed out that he had referred over forty new clients into the system, he took his mentor's advice and started the journey to becoming a licensed producer. Br...
Jason Sipple

Jason Sipple

2025-09-1755:33

“I Finally Felt Peace,” that’s how one of Jason Sipple’s clients described their experience after discovering the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC). They had spent years feeling overwhelmed by financial stress, until Jason showed them how to implement IBC and gain control, clarity and legacy. If you’ve ever wondered how real families use IBC to create cash flow, protect their future, and break free from Wall Street, this episode is for you. Stay Connected: 🌐 Visit us: www.infiniteban...
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