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Author: Aaron McCall

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Bad Idea Social Club is an independent podcast of stories, insights, and creative foolery. Hosted by graphic designer Aaron McCall, with Amber Gray and Joe Matteson, BISC brings honest, unfiltered conversations that get into the messy, brilliant, and relatable sides of creativity and the stories that shape who we are. This is a space where honesty mixes with the beautifully unhinged parts of creativity, process, struggle, joy, mental health, and everything else we don’t usually say out loud. If you care about creativity, making things, or just figuring yourself out in real time, you’re in the right place. This podcast dives into life, the work we make, and the stories that connect us all. Tune in, press play, subscribe, and share the stories with your friends.

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Aaron McCall, Joe Matteson, and Amber Gray talk about the one thing we all pretend we’re good at: knowing what the hell is going on. “I don’t know” turns into the point, not the punchline. They get into ego, confidence, learning in public, and where flexibility ends and conviction starts. Curiosity, humility, and at least one terrible metaphor. Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aaron McCall aaronmccall.net Instagram: @aaron_mccall LinkedIn: Aaron McCall Co-Host/Sidekick/Photographer: Joe Matteso...
This time, it’s about when everything adds up and overflows. Not one big thing, just work, expectations, responsibility, and momentum piling on over time. We get into boundaries, how work and life shape each other in uneven ways, and how we’re striking balance while trying to keep up. Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aaron McCall aaronmccall.net Instagram: @aaron_mccall LinkedIn: Aaron McCall Co-Host/Sidekick/Photographer: Joe Matteson themattesons.co Instagram: @joe_dustin Co-Host/Sidekick/Ma...
Aaron McCall moderates a Creative Mornings Grand Rapids panel discussion on “Growth,” recorded at the Grand Rapids Civic Theatre with more than 200 people in attendance. Joined by Ian Labardee, Bailey Sell, Hannah Berry, and Leigh Ann Cobb, the conversation gets honest about what growth actually looks like once momentum builds—imposter syndrome, uncertainty, shifting priorities, burnout, community, and the small, often invisible changes that shape us over time. Recorded by Green Frog, this ep...
Courtney Lauer (graphic designer, artist) shares her story with Aaron McCall and talks about survival, control, and the strength it takes to turn pain into something honest. She opens up about surviving and processing trauma, rebuilding identity through creativity, and using art to make sense of the things that don’t have easy answers. Keep up with Courtney Lauer: courtneylauer.me IG: @courtneylauer Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aaron McCall aaronmccall.net Instagram: @aaron_mccall LinkedIn:...
Jacob Betts: Once a Vagrant

Jacob Betts: Once a Vagrant

2025-11-0401:01:24

Jacob Betts (singer-songwriter, The American Hotel System) joins Aaron McCall to talk about creativity as something to hold onto when life unravels, how grief reshapes how we see purpose, and what it means to rebuild belief in people when everything around you feels painfully divided. He opens up about faith, art, and the defiance it takes to choose hope over cynicism. Keep up with Jacob Betts: americanhotelsystem.com IG: @theamericanhotelsystem IG: @theconcussedcoffeegeek Writer/Producer/...
Casey Lambert (independent pro wrestler, marketing director) joins Aaron McCall to talk about life in and out of the ring, how strength and vulnerability feed off each other, and how connection shows up everywhere from the crowd to your opponent, and the relationships that matter most. They dig into storytelling in wrestling, learning how to take a hit and keep showing up, and what it actually looks like to lead with empathy in a world that keeps rewarding the cruelty. Keep up with Casey Lamb...
Joy Rhine (visual designer, photographer) sits down with Aaron McCall to talk about keeping creativity in your life without letting it become your whole identity. She opens up about being people-first in a screen-first industry, why she’d rather build community than chase trends, and how confidence came from doing hard things like running marathons and summiting Mount Kilimanjaro “for fun.” From travel and fitness to design and friendship, Joy proves you can be wildly creative, wildly active,...
Mack Garrison (motion designer, co-founder of Dash Studio) joins Aaron McCall to talk about ADHD as both a curse and a creative advantage, building a studio rooted in empathy over ego, and what happens when you decide burnout isn’t a badge of honor. He opens up about the lessons that shaped Dash’s first decade, from mentorship and community to leading with transparency when things get hard and what it means to keep the work moving without sacrificing the humanity behind it. Keep up with Mack ...
Scott Katsufrakis (founder of Flying House Threads, firefighter) joins Aaron McCall to talk creative entrepreneurship at the edge of whimsy and weight. They dig into building a Disney-inspired, punk-leaning apparel brand while working life-and-death shifts, the pressure of being “the face” on camera, and the mental health work behind staying steady. They touch on the role of community, the discipline it takes to keep quality high, and finding ways for a brand built on castles and monsters to ...
Taylor Matteson (painter, experimenter) shares her story with Aaron McCall and discusses following creativity wherever it leads: painting, sculpture, and adding teeth to thrifted objects. She opens up about growing up shy in a loud, creative household and learning to embrace the unapologetically weird. From finding confidence through experimenting in her 20s to building a deep connection with animals in her work, Taylor leans fully into the strange energy that makes her art unmistakably hers....
Ray Ann Barker (painter, photographer, model, content creator) talks with Aaron McCall about anxiety as the root of her creativity, finding ground through photography and abstract painting, and how turning perfectionism on its head opened new doors. She opens up about modeling in her 30s, navigating motherhood, and creating space for community over competition in creativity. Keep up with Ray Anne Barker: rayannebarker.com IG: @rayannebarker IG: @rayanne.paints Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aa...
Colin Russell (artist, muralist, Ghost Town) talks with Aaron McCall about moving from years in coffee to a life in art, stumbling into murals, and building a world in black and white. His work is bold, playful, and unsettling all at once—creepy cartoons that have made their way from Grand Rapids to Japan. Colin opens up about freelancing, anxiety, and what happens when the thing that used to be your outlet becomes the thing you depend on. Keep up with Colin Russell: ghosttownart.com IG: @gho...
To kick off Season 6, Virginia Anzengruber (comedian, filmmaker, writer) joins Aaron McCall for a conversation about grief, comedy, and what it takes to keep creating when life gets heavy. She talks about loss, writing scripts that hold both humor and heartbreak, the grind of freelancing across film and TV, and the uneasy balance between survival and art. Keep up with Virginia Anzengruber: IG: @virginiaanzengruber Tickets for “An Evening with Jim O’Heir” hosted by Virginia Anzengruber: https:...
This time, we’re talking about the mess of being online. From LiveJournal drama to influencer marketing and the existential weight of Instagram captions, we dig into what makes social media feel necessary, fake, addictive, useful, and totally exhausting. We ask big questions about authenticity, attention, and the line between art and content. When the algorithm is hungry, we keep feeding it pieces of ourselves. Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aaron McCall aaronmccall.net Instagram: @aaron_mccal...
BONUS: Starting Over

BONUS: Starting Over

2025-07-0821:11

This time, it’s just the three of us—Aaron, Joe, and Amber. No guest, no plan, just vibes and a theme: starting over. From lost files and ruined shoots to quitting jobs and creative resets, we get into the mess and momentum of starting fresh—when it’s your choice, and when it’s not. Technically, a bonus episode. Structurally, unsound—a freefall. Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aaron McCall aaronmccall.net Instagram: @aaron_mccall LinkedIn: Aaron McCall Co-Host/Sidekick/Photographer: Joe Mattes...
Jenny Hearns (artist, graphic designer) talks with Aaron McCall about creative identity, chronic illness, and what happens when your body hits pause before your mind is ready. They get into creepy-cute aesthetics, the pressure to stay visible, and how she’s learned to make space for rest without losing her spark. It's the classic tale of a ghost, an onion and a perfectly reasonable emotional spiral. Keep up with Jenny Hearns: jennyhearns.com IG: @jennyhearns Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aaro...
Craig Horky (illustrator, graphic designer) shares his story with Aaron McCall and talks about analog habits, unexpected upheaval, and the tension between making a living and making something that lasts. They cover brush pens, weird gigs, creative grit, and the strange freedom that comes with getting fired. Also, he really loves his cats. Keep up with Craig Horky: craighorky.storenvy.com IG: @craighorky Writer/Producer/Editor/Host: Aaron McCall aaronmccall.net Instagram: @aaron_mccall Linke...
Mitch Ermatinger (brewer/founder, Speciation Artisan Ales) talks with Aaron McCall about building a life around wild beer—then no longer being able to drink it. They get into the art and science behind fermentation, the gut-punch of a celiac diagnosis, designing what he can’t taste, and staying creative inside sharp limitations. It’s about constraint, reinvention, and what it means to keep making things—even when the rules change. Keep up with Mitch Ermatinger: speciationartisanales.com IG: @...
Rae Lang: Outsider

Rae Lang: Outsider

2025-04-2956:35

Rae Lang (artist, Woosah Outfitters & Outside Coffee Co.) talks with Aaron McCall about carving a life that’s slower, wilder, and closer to the woods. They get into Rae’s evolution as an artist and business owner, the decision to close her Grand Rapids shop, raising kids with muddy feet, and how success looks different than it used to. It’s about art, identity, and what it really means to stop outrunning yourself. Keep up with Rae Lang: spreadingthewoosah.com IG: @woosahoutfitters outside...
Scott Millington (photographer) has always had an eye for real-life moments—and in photography, he found the language to document them. Scott sits down with Aaron McCall to talk about how the camera gave him purpose, community, and a way to show the world as he sees it. From indie wrestling shows to coffee shops and protests, Scott shares what it means to document real life, connect with people, and stay grounded in your perspective. Keep up with Scott Millington: millingtonmedia.com IG: @sap...
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