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The Org Dev podcast is all about Organisational Development, a practice that has the power to transform organisations, shape cultures, and empower individuals. Yet, it's often shrouded in mystery and misunderstood. But fear not, because on this podcast, we pull back the curtain to reveal the inner workings of Organisation Development. We demystify the concepts, unravel the strategies, and delve into the real-life experiences of professionals who are driving real and significant change and innovation within organisations.

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We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Is it time to rethink leadership and management? Many leaders work under the illusion that they can control what goes on but in reality organisations are messy, and unpredictable. So what does this Complexity really means for how organisations function, how leaders make decisions, and how people navigate uncertainty. One person who has challenged the neat models and tidy solutions we often reach for – instead opens up more real, human, a...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it take to deliver on an ambitious strategy – especially in a mission-driven organisation where the stakes are high and capacity is limited? How do you align people, processes, and systems to deliver on the organisation's ambitions? Our guest this week is the Maria Farres, Director of Organisational Development & Employee Experience at Cancer Research UK, where she leads work on org. development, leadership & talent, EDI, empl...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What really derails a change project – the plan, or the relationships behind it? Our guest today, Sophy Pern, has spent her career helping leaders and teams untangle the relational dynamics that quietly shape whether strategy and change succeed or stall. An international consultant, facilitator and executive coach, she works with executive leaders on strategy engagement, organisation design, operating models, culture change and team development...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How do you make sure your organisation’s design is truly fit for purpose – not just neat on paper, but aligned to the strategy your future depends on? And how do you work with senior leaders in a way that builds real trust – so you can understand how value is created in their world, and the tough trade-offs that come with redesigning it? Today we’re joined by Jaimini Lakhani – founder of Lumiere Consulting and a leading expert in organisation...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What separates good OD practice from great OD practice – skill, strategy, or self-awareness? You can have the tools. The models. The frameworks. But what really shapes your impact as an OD practitioner? According to Dr Frances Baldwin, it’s not what you do – it’s who you are. Frances has been shaping the field of Organisation Development for more than five decades. Yet when you ask her what truly makes a difference in this work, she doesn’t s...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How to Solve Complex Business Problems? Organisations are not machines – and they certainly don’t run on machine logic. Solving the toughest business problems isn’t about pulling levers or rewriting process charts. It’s about people: how they work together, how they make sense of their world, and how they feel. But people don’t operate in neat, predictable ways. We delete, distort, and generalise the reality around us – which makes organisatio...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Have you ever worried you’ll be “found out” or dismissed your own successes as luck? You’re not alone. In this episode, we’re joined by Dr Kate Atkin, author of The Imposter Phenomenon: Why You Feel Like a Fraud and What to Do About It. Kate brings both personal experience and rigorous research to the conversation, busting myths (it’s phenomenon, not syndrome) and sharing practical strategies for navigating self-doubt. We explore how impo...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we’re joined by Mel Francis, Director of Neurodiversity at Work at Do-IT Solutions, to explore how organisations can move beyond simply accommodating difference to designing workplaces where all kinds of brains can thrive. Mel shares practical strategies for embedding neuroinclusive thinking across the employee lifecycle – from recruitment and onboarding to performance, progression, and everyday management...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Change and Transformation. What if the way most organisations approach transformation is fundamentally flawed? In this episode, Dr. Andrew Day turns the usual change management playbook on its head. Drawing on decades of work with leaders across sectors and continents, he explores why transformation isn’t something you can manage from the top – and why the real work is social, emotional, and far messier than any plan on paper. We dig into wha...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What if the future of HR isn’t about getting a seat at the table - but redesigning the table altogether? In a world shaped by paradox, uncertainty and stakeholder pressure, the next generation of HR leaders must be architects of value—not just participants in strategy. It’s about creating human capability that drives stakeholder value—for employees, customers, communities, investors and boards. For this episode, we're joined from the U...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! OD in Complexity, Change and Transformation What gets in the way when strategy and change aren’t truly connected – when the people leading strategy and the people leading change don’t even see their work as part of the same conversation? We’re delighted to be joined by Toby Lindsay, Senior Consultant in Leadership and Organisational Development at The King’s Fund and Lead Consultant at Lindsay Associates Toby has dedicated his career to expl...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it really take to build a responsive, high-performing organisation – one that learns, adapts, and endures? Today, we’re joined all the way from California by one of the world’s leading thinkers on organisation agility, Dr Chris Worley – co-author of The Agility Factor and a pioneer in the fields of organisation development, strategic change, and design. In this episode, we explore what agility really means (beyond the buzzword), how A...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Business Ethics - Corporate Scandals and Failure - CEO Failings Why do good people do bad things? What drives epic ethical failure in organizations? Have you ever read about a corporate scandal in the news and thought that next time, it could be you and your organization? Probably not. We all tend to believe that bad things are done by bad people. And since we consider ourselves to be decent human beings, we don’t believe we would ever engage i...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What does it mean to take a systemic approach to leadership and change? It means focusing not just on individuals, but on the patterns, relationships, between people, teams and different parts of the organisation. It also explores how leaders and team members make sense of what’s happening around them. Who better to help us explore this powerful approach to understanding the social worlds of organisations than Dr Martin Miksits. Dr...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! What happens when the Organisation Development team doesn’t sit in HR – but reports directly to senior leadership instead? What difference does it make reporting into the C-suite? How does it shape the culture, how decisions are made and ways of working? Thomas Lindqvist is Senior Director of Organisational Development at King – and he shares his perspective on how OD can play it's full role in the C-suite Wish you had a handy recap of t...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Learning and Development that moves the needle. How do you design learning for high performance. What kind of friction is slowing your organisation down—and is it the kind that challenges, or the kind that quietly corrodes performance? In Organisation Development, we often look to build capability, improve systems, and align people to strategy. But sometimes the biggest gains come not from adding new layers, but from removing the friction that’...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Why does progress feel harder than it should, even when everyone’s working flat out? Why do good teams struggle to have the right conversations, make clear decisions, or follow through effectively? In this episode of the OrgDev Podcast, we explore the invisible drag on performance: team misalignment. When people act on different assumptions, even the most committed teams end up stuck in confusion, slow decisions and fractured collaboration. I...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Agile Leadership. How do you build an organisation that can adapt – not just survive, but thrive?How do you define organisational agility, and why is it crucial for businesses in today's rapidly changing environment? Across organisations, Expectations keep rising, while resources don’t and change just keeps on coming. This week, we’re joined by Dr Linda Holbeach – researcher, author and leading voice in organisation development. He...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! Things change when our thinking changes. So why do so many organisations still rely on outdated mental models to tackle today’s complex challenges? In this episode, From developing foundational theories like DSRP and VMCL, to shaping national education programmes and training leaders across sectors, we’re joined by two of the most influential figures in the systems thinking world This conversation explores what it really means to think syste...
We'd love to hear from you so send us a message! How can we leverage what neuroscience experts know about the brain to design learning that actually sticks? If we know so much about how the brain works – why is so much learning still designed in ways that ignore it? In this episode, we’re looking into what neuroscience can teach us about how people and organisations really learn – not just in theory, but in practice. We explore how memory works, how we build skills and retain knowledge,...
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