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Author: Nadine Hogan

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"Nadine sure likes to talk" - every report card she brought home


Nadine has been talking for 47 years, and en route to pickleball can be overheard asking "So, what's your deepest wound?" Not known for her subtleties, she's a born story-collector and learned storyteller who decided to mic-up and take you along for the ride. 


Listen in as Nadine chats with folks about their lives, zeroing in on those messy parts as we get ourselves from one point to another. Covering things like friendships, careers, deaths, and divorces. There's nothing she won't ask in hopes that other people's experiences can help you through your own. 


We're not experts; we're just humans having a human experience we think you can learn from. Or relate to. Or laugh at. Or cry over. 


So hit download, dive in, and hear how folks found themselves on THE OTHER SIDE. 


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TOS of Retirement

TOS of Retirement

2026-02-0454:59

How does it feel to reach the age of retirement when you’ve spent your career strongly identifying with your profession? What happens when our value becomes untangled from what we ‘do’ to who we actually are? How do folks navigate that shift and what things arise when we find ourselves on the other side of our career? These are the questions that were floating around my mind when I asked my dear friend, Fraser, to sit down for a chat. Fraser Valentine, a senior leader in the Canadian F...
Mom & sis are back for a light-hearted discussion about our own personal fitness stories, sharing how different forms of movement like running, Pilates, and dance classes impact our lives. In a world where everything feels quite heavy, and at a time when the most awful humans are getting a lot of attention, we felt a need to remind ourselves of the good people around us and the importance of social connections and community. While we also explore the pressures of diet culture and ...
TOS of Influencing

TOS of Influencing

2026-01-2101:13:48

This week's lively discussion is brought to you by Chantal Sarkisian, an Armenian-Canadian influencer better known as Chantsy online! Listen in as Nadine and Chantal delve into the behind-the-scenes of what it means to be a social media influencer. Their conversation starts from the beginning, with Chantal's early experience as a blogger, then discusses her transition to Instagram and TikTok, diving into the realities of managing sponsored content while keeping true to personal values, ...
In this week's episode of The Other Side Pod, Karla Briones hops on to chat about the side of entrepreneurship that isn't so pretty. The burnout. The decisions we make when we lose connection with ourselves. The challenges that immigrant entrepreneurs face. The guilt that can be easily felt when juggling motherhood, and the directions we go when we've lost our purpose and how to come to the decision to change course. Karla has started multiple businesses over her extensive career, and shares ...
TOS of an Olympic Athlete

TOS of an Olympic Athlete

2026-01-0701:12:02

It's the first pod of 2026 and what better way to start a new year than a conversation with Florence Maheu; Canadian slalom kayaker, Olympian, and just the loveliest human with a refreshing perspective on life. Recently retired from an 18 year career as a professional athlete, Flo takes us behind the scenes and tells us how she first discovered (and fell in love with) kayaking and walks us through the realities of her rigorous training and travel schedule and how, during those demanding years...
Happy New Year's Eve from mom, sis and I! Join us for this special holiday episode to hear our thoughts and expectations for this coming New Year, as well as anecdotes about past resolutions, generational differences in goal setting, and personal shifts in mindset. Of course we also offer tips on surviving the winter in Newfoundland (and Canada in general!), touching on the importance of connection and community. @the_otherside_pod
On this nostalgic Christmas Eve, sisters Nadine and Danielle, along with their cousin, Amy, share their memorable, often chaotic experiences working at a housewares and gift shop in St. John's, Newfoundland during their high school and university days. Reflecting on their long hours, challenging customers and youthful first-job antics, these three share insights into the exhaustion and camaraderie of retail work during the holiday season. Through humorous and heartfelt stories about Mi...
Mandie Vossenberg is back on the pod to talk about dead parents, but make it festive?! The holidays bring about a lot of feelings, especially if you've lost someone, so Nadine and Mandie wanted to share how they've been feeling in hopes that if you can relate, you won't feel so alone in it. In this heartfelt episode, they share a candid conversation about dealing with grief during the holiday season, recounting personal experiences, from the sadness and tears to the unexpected moments o...
TOS of the Therapist Couch

TOS of the Therapist Couch

2025-12-1001:05:25

We are officially into the Holiday Season so I thought it was a great time to chat with Tesia Bryski and Alyssa Malizia, psychotherapists and the Co-Directors at Shine Mental Health Collective in Ottawa, ON. This time of year can be challenging for many for a multitude of reasons, so in this episode we wanted to share some insights into psychotherapy, access, the impact of the holidays on mental health and the ways in which we can take care of ourselves during a busy time of year. In th...
TOS of a Hysterectomy

TOS of a Hysterectomy

2025-12-0301:10:26

Meet Jess Packman, hair enthusiast and stylist at JetBlack Hair Studio, who also happens to no longer suffer wildly every month since having a hysterectomy! Nadine and Jess, like many people who happen to have uteruses, have had a complicated relationship with them and hopped on the podcast to talk about their decisions to have them removed due to severe endometriosis and adenomyosis. Listen in as both women share their own personal stories, which are very different from each other but so sim...
It's the last Wednesday of the month so you know what that means. Mom and sis are back! And this time we're talking body image and aging. Listen in as the three of us, being women in our 40s, 50s, and 70s, discuss our independent decisions to age naturally in a world constantly promoting fillers, Botox, and surgeries. Each of us discuss our own personal journeys toward self-acceptance, and share insights on how we've built our relationships with our imperfect bodies, embracing the physi...
TOS of Getting Fired

TOS of Getting Fired

2025-11-1901:19:16

Ever been fired? Jen has, twice! And both times that it happened to her she wished she had someone she could relate to, so she's sharing her story in case she can be that someone for you. In this episode Jen recounts her journey of being terminated from two significant jobs and how those experiences shaped both her, and her career. A human rights investigator and lawyer based in Ottawa, Jen walks us through the impact these moments had on her psyche, how she got herself through those fi...
Meet Ashley Wittig, brainchild behind Honey's Ice Cream in Toronto, ON and holder of my heart through said ice cream. In this episode, Ashley shares her journey from vegan bakery owner to vegan ice cream maker/Honey's creator, taking us through her creative process (seriously, how does she continually make us drool with those flavour combinations?!) and the challenges she has faced in both her previous and current businesses. When hopping on this call I wanted to know how Ashley came to...
TOS of Surrogacy

TOS of Surrogacy

2025-11-0501:12:09

Meet Kirsten Duke, a 39-year-old mother of three, who carried four babies and helped create two separate, but forever linked, families. The Other Side of Surrogacy - aka, the one that made Nadine cry. In this episode Kirsten generously shares her remarkable journey as a surrogate mother. Starting from the beginning (seeing a TikTok video with two hopeful fathers from Spain) she then walks us through the medical screenings, the legal and logistical processes, the experience of carrying a...
Mom and sis are back! And this week the three of us dive into the joys and complexities of friendship. We talk about making new friends, losing old ones, and the natural ebb and flow of those lifelong friendships, including the pain of drifting apart as well as the beauty of reconnecting. Told from the perspective of women in their 40s, 50s and 70s, we explore how true friendships shape our lives, provide us with a safety net, and stand the test of time. Mom, sis and I are often found c...
TOS of a Broken Back

TOS of a Broken Back

2025-10-1559:42

Meet Tesia, a registered psychotherapist, who landed in a hospital bed with a broken back after the hammock she was relaxing in at a spa suddenly broke and sent her crashing to the ground. In this chat, Tesia recounts her harrowing experience from that day and walks us through the immense challenges of her recovery, including her personal and professional growth, setbacks, and shifting relationships. With honesty and a sense of humour that helped her through this traumatic experience, w...
TOS of Chronic Pain

TOS of Chronic Pain

2025-10-0801:15:02

Chronic pain is something that's hard to imagine unless you've experienced it yourself. That's why I wanted to hear Lisa's story. Lisa is a physiotherapist who specializes in women's and pelvic floor health, and in this episode she shares her personal journey through an excruciating experience with chronic back pain. Listen in as Lisa explains how chronic pain affected every aspect of her life - her job, her sleep, her relationships and her mental and physical health. Vulnerable and direct, L...
In this episode of the Other Side Pod, Nadine talks to Henry Assad, the CEO of Happy Goat Coffee Company. Henry shares his experiences from starting in the coffee business in 2008 to purchasing and expanding Happy Goat. He delves into the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, the challenges faced during the Ottawa Freedom Convoy, and how with the critical support from friends and family he managed to still be standing on the other side of a global pandemic. Despite the setbacks, Henry remains opti...
I'm often found on FaceTime with mom and sis just ... shooting the shit. When I had this idea to record us they were all in, so here's our first go. Throughout these 50 minutes we discuss numerous topics, from family dynamics, careers, access to birth control in the 70s, to how I got my abysmal sense of time from Lorraine (the matriarch). We jump from topic to topic because, that's us. Some months we'll delve further into something, but for the first episode together we kept it light(ish).&nb...
"I think there is something really beautiful I can make of these broken pieces...to give someone else some perspective...to leave the best parts of me behind.” Part 2 of a 2-part conversation with Erin McHarge. Take this podcast on your next walk. Trust me. Though it’s about cancer, incurable cancer at that, it’s one you will easily fall in love with because Erin is simply that kind of human. At 27, Erin was dealt a brutal blow - a stage 4B endometrial cancer diagnosis. This was less than a y...
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