All Things Internal Audit

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit  In this special milestone episode, Terry Grafenstine sits down with Anthony Pugliese to reflect on five years of leadership at The IIA. He shares what it's meant to lead a global profession during a period of unprecedented change, from modernizing the Standards and advancing advocacy to strengthening the talent pipeline and navigating cultural complexity across more than 100 countries. The conversation discusses leadership through influence, professional judgment, integrity, and what it truly means to represent an entire profession on the world stage.  HOST: Terry Grafenstine, CIA, CPA, CGAP, CISSP, CISA Former Global Chair, The Institute of Internal Auditors   GUEST: Anthony Pugliese, CIA, CPA, CGMA, CITP President & CEO, The Institute of Internal Auditors KEY POINTS: Introduction and Five Years of Leadership [00:00:02–00:02:47] What Makes Leading a Global Professional Association Unique [00:03:03–00:06:16] Leading Through Influence, Buy-In, and Indirect Authority [00:06:27–00:08:08] The Weight of Representing an Entire Profession [00:08:15–00:10:17] Building a Truly Global Culture at The IIA [00:10:39–00:13:53] Balancing Legacy With the Changing Needs of the Profession [00:14:01–00:16:10] Advice for New and Emerging Internal Audit Leaders [00:17:01–00:19:11] What Strong Internal Audit Leadership Looks Like Today [00:19:44–00:23:13] What the CEO Role Looks Like Behind the Scenes [00:24:00–00:27:40] Managing Diverse Perspectives Across a Global Profession [00:27:48–00:29:27] How the Pace of Change Has Redefined the Role [00:30:10–00:32:16] Staying Grounded Amid Travel, Pressure, and Responsibility [00:32:23–00:34:06] What Anthony Hopes Members Feel From This Chapter of Leadership [00:34:19–00:36:35] The Most Meaningful Part of Leading The IIA [00:37:26–00:39:47] Final Reflections on the Future of the Profession [00:39:56–00:41:35] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Vision 2035 Global Internal Audit Standards About Us: Anthony J. Pugliese Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer  

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech Internal audit is no longer operating in a world of fixed scopes and hindsight reviews. As risk becomes continuous, digital, and increasingly driven by AI-enabled decisions, audit must evolve just as quickly.   In this episode, Aadesh Gandhre is joined by Dave Montez and Richard Penfil from PayPal to introduce swarm auditing; an emerging approach that combines human judgment with orchestrated AI agents working in parallel. They discuss how audit functions can move beyond prompt libraries, embed AI directly into audit workflows, and rethink the assurance operating model without sacrificing independence or professional judgment. HOST: Aadesh Gandhre, CISA Chief Audit Executive, DTCC   GUESTS: Dave Montez Chief Audit Executive, PayPal   Richard Penfil Data Science Manager, Audit Operations, PayPal   KEY POINTS: Introduction to Swarm Auditing and the Limits of Traditional Audit Models [00:00:02–00:01:25]   Why Audit Must Evolve for Continuous, AI-Driven Risk [00:01:40–00:03:26]   From Static Audit Cycles to Constant Evolution [00:03:27–00:04:17]   The "Flip Phone in a Smartphone World" Analogy [00:04:54–00:05:12]   The Mindset Shift Required for Swarm Auditing [00:05:48–00:07:32]   Cultural, Legal, and Psychological Barriers to AI Adoption [00:07:36–00:08:41]   Failing Forward and Creating Permission to Experiment [00:08:49–00:09:54]   From Doers to Reviewers: How the Auditor's Role Evolves [00:10:02–00:11:28]   Responsiveness to Change as a Core Audit Skill [00:11:40–00:12:29]   Building AI for Audit vs. Adopting Enterprise AI [00:12:39–00:14:23]   Making Space for AI Experimentation Within the Audit Plan [00:14:32–00:16:35]   Embedding AI Into Daily Audit Workflows [00:16:45–00:18:45]   What Swarm Auditing Really Means [00:19:00–00:20:39]   Managing Independence While Sharing AI Capabilities [00:21:10–00:22:32]   Moving Beyond Prompt Libraries to Agentic Swarms [00:23:38–00:25:03]   Collaboration Across Audit Functions and the Profession [00:25:14–00:27:09]   One Meaningful First Step Toward Swarm Auditing [00:27:50–00:28:25]   Closing Thoughts on the Future of Audit and Innovation [00:28:31–00:29:26] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: GAM 2026 2026 Analytics, Automation and AI Virtual Conference AI Knowledge Centers Learning Solutions: Leveraging Artificial Intelligence in Internal Audit Global Internal Audit Standards Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer  

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit AI regulation is no longer on the horizon. It's here. In this episode, Ernest Anunciacion talks with Marko Horvat about how global AI regulations are reshaping governance, risk management, and the role of internal audit. They discuss why regulators are prioritizing risk to individuals and how AI governance spans the full system life cycle. HOST:Ernest Anunciacion, CIA Head of Product Marketing, MindBridge AI   GUEST: Marko Horvat, CPASenior Vice President of Business Transformation, ELB Learning   KEY POINTS: Introduction and episode overview [00:00:01 – 00:00:28] Why AI regulation is accelerating globally [00:00:56 – 00:01:26] How regulators are redefining risk as harm to individuals [00:01:35 – 00:02:18] EU-style risk tiering and prohibited vs. high-risk AI use cases [00:02:37 – 00:03:36] Human-in-the-loop expectations and judgment-based AI decisions [00:03:36 – 00:04:11] What regulators expect organizations to demonstrate [00:04:31 – 00:05:32] Internal audit's expanding role across the AI life cycle [00:05:38 – 00:06:39] Readiness assessments and the challenge of locating AI use [00:06:59 – 00:07:27] AI literacy skills auditors need today [00:07:43 – 00:09:29] Explainable AI, hallucinations, and model drift [00:08:21 – 00:09:29] Common audit gaps: shadow AI, monitoring, and third-party risk [00:09:44 – 00:12:00] Why vendor AI does not transfer accountability [00:12:02 – 00:12:21] What internal audit teams should be doing right now [00:12:32 – 00:14:28] Balancing continuous monitoring with new risk exposure [00:13:48 – 00:14:20] Partnering with legal and compliance on AI governance [00:14:40 – 00:15:10] Final takeaways: AI regulation is no longer theoretical [00:15:28 – 00:16:31] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: GAM 2026 2026 Analytics, Automation and AI Virtual Conference AI Knowledge Centers Learning Solutions: European Union Regulations Learning Solutions: Leveraging Artificial Intelligence in Internal Audit Global Internal Audit Standards   Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Deepfakes are reshaping fraud, trust, and evidence, and challenging what organizations can rely on as "proof." In this episode, Andrew Guasp speaks with Corey Chadderton about how AI-generated media is being used to impersonate leadership and bypass controls, why the barriers to entry have collapsed, and what internal auditors must do to strengthen governance, training, and response as these risks accelerate into 2026. HOST:Andrew Guasp, CIA, CFE Senior manager, Standards & Professional Guidance, The IIA GUEST:Corey Chadderton, IAP Internal Auditor, Barbados Water Authority KEY POINTS: Introduction to Deepfakes and Audit Risk [00:00:02–00:00:40] What Are Deepfakes and Why Auditors Must Pay Attention [00:00:40–00:02:40] How Deepfake Technology Works (Without Becoming a Technical Expert) [00:02:50–00:04:10] Deepfakes as a "Force Multiplier" for Fraud [00:04:20–00:06:22] Real-World Deepfake Fraud and Governance Failures [00:06:24–00:08:36] Reputational Risk, Content Monitoring, and Trust Breakdown [00:08:36–00:09:32] Where Organizations Are Most Vulnerable Today [00:09:51–00:12:59] Applying Cyber Testing Techniques to Deepfake Risk [00:13:10–00:13:55] Red Flags and Indicators of Manipulated Media [00:14:04–00:16:10] The Power of the Pause and Training Against Urgency Attacks [00:16:13–00:18:22] Limits of Deepfake Detection Tools and the Human Factor [00:18:28–00:22:01] Professional Skepticism Beyond the Audit Function [00:22:01–00:23:51] Internal Audit's Advisory Role in Policies and Incident Response [00:24:02–00:27:14] Staying Ahead Through Continuous Risk Assessment [00:27:23–00:30:04] Closing Thoughts [00:30:04–00:30:19] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: GAM 2026 AI Knowledge Centers CEO Message: Combating Deepfakes Global Internal Audit Standards   Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Eric Wilson talks with Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope about the psychology behind fraud, why ordinary people commit unethical acts, and how trust, pressure, and culture shape fraud risk. They explore accidental versus intentional perpetrators, cognitive blind spots, whistleblowing challenges, and what auditors can do to better detect and prevent fraud.  HOST: Eric Wilson, CIA Director of Internal Audit & Chief Audit Executive, Gulfport Energy   GUEST: Kelly Richmond Pope, CPA, PhD Forensic Accounting Professor, DePaul University https://www.kellyrichmondpope.com/ KEY POINTS: Introduction to Fraud Psychology [00:00:02–00:00:32] What Sparked an Interest in Fraud and Human Behavior [00:00:32–00:03:33] Why Fraud Is Often Committed by "Ordinary" People [00:03:33–00:04:21] Pressure, Life Events, and the Path to Fraud [00:04:21–00:06:48] Thrill-Seeking, Power, and the Adrenaline Factor [00:06:58–00:08:20] Intentional, Accidental, and Righteous Fraud Explained [00:08:20–00:10:18] Why Accidental Perpetrators Are the Hardest to Detect [00:08:40–00:10:18] Cognitive Blind Spots and the Role of Trust [00:10:19–00:13:46] Lessons from One of the Largest Municipal Fraud Cases [00:12:29–00:13:46] The Difficult Reality of the Internal Auditor's Role [00:13:46–00:15:38] When and Why to Bring in Third-Party Investigators [00:15:52–00:16:16] Cultural Warning Signs That Fraud Risk Is Increasing [00:16:36–00:17:51] Charisma, Likability, and Fraud Risk [00:17:51–00:19:07] Managing Relationships While Maintaining Objectivity [00:18:20–00:20:12] Behavioral Red Flags Auditors Should Not Ignore [00:20:16–00:22:50] Narcissism, Leadership, and Corporate Environments [00:22:50–00:23:38] Why Whistleblowing Is So Difficult [00:23:59–00:25:59] A Critical Mindset Shift for Auditors [00:26:11–00:26:33] Closing Thoughts and Practical Takeaways [00:26:33–00:27:16] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Global Practice Guide: Internal Auditing and Fraud, 3rd Edition Vision 2035 2026 Fraud Unmasked Virtual Conference Global Internal Audit Standards Internal Auditor Magazine: "Playing the Long Game" (Eric Wilson's article) Webinar: Internal Auditing and Human Personality: Compatibility Mapping Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Levy talks with Dan Fornelius about the skills internal auditors need in 2026 and how to deliver real advice, insight, and foresight that leaders value. They discuss earning a seat at the table, balancing advisory work with independence, aligning audit work to strategy, and how AI and analytics are transforming internal audit. The conversation highlights the shift toward strategic, insight-driven auditing and what auditors must do to stay relevant. HOST:Mike Levy, CIA, CRMA, CISSP CEO, Cherry Hill Advisory GUEST: Dan Fornelius, CIA Director & Integrated Risk Leader, CrossCountry Consulting IIA North Jersey Chapter Board Member    KEY POINTS:   Introduction and the Evolution of Internal Auditing [00:00:02–00:00:39] Defining Advice, Insight, and Foresight in Internal Audit [00:00:39–00:01:16] Earning a Seat at the Table Through Early Engagement [00:01:16–00:02:00] Aligning Audit Work With Organizational Strategy [00:02:42–00:03:33] Using Business Language to Drive Impact and Value [00:03:37–00:04:20] Balancing Advisory Services and Independence [00:04:32–00:06:40] Independence vs. Objectivity: Reframing the Debate [00:07:02–00:08:35] Providing Real-Time Guidance on Emerging Risks [00:09:12–00:10:27] Why Internal Audit's Holistic View Drives Insight [00:10:31–00:11:24] Defining and Delivering Actionable Insights [00:11:26–00:16:01] Using Data, Analytics, and Early Warning Indicators [00:12:21–00:15:27] Technology and AI as Enablers of Better Storytelling [00:16:12–00:18:33] How AI Frees Auditors to Focus on the "So What" [00:18:45–00:21:06] Skills and Attributes of the Future Auditor [00:21:22–00:23:25] Why Communication and Questioning Matter More Than Ever [00:23:25–00:25:01] Final Reflections on Value-Driven Internal Auditing [00:25:01–00:26:16] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2026 Fraud Unmasked Virtual Conference Global Internal Audit Standards Vision 2035 Advice and Resources Knowledge Centers Artificial Intelligence All Things Internal Audit: Advisory Work: How to Consult Learning Solutions: The Advisory Engagement Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Pamela Stroebel Powers and James Rose unpack the new Global Practice Guide: Developing an Internal Audit Strategy, created to support Standard 9.2 in the Global Internal Audit Standards. They discuss why strategy is essential for internal audit functions, how it differs from the audit plan, and the importance of foresight, scenario analysis, and continuous development. They also explore the connection between strategy and performance measurement, and how these tools help internal auditors stay aligned with organizational objectives. HOST:Pamela Stroebel Powers, CIA, CGAP, CRMA, CPA Director of Professional Guidance, Public Sector, The IIA GUEST:James Rose, CIA, CRMA, CPA, CISA Managing Director, Sunhawk Consulting Member, International Internal Audit Standards Board (IIASB) KEY POINTS: Introduction to the New Global Practice Guide [00:00:02–00:00:30] Why Internal Audit Needs Its Own Strategy [00:00:51–00:01:33] How Internal Audit Strategy Differs from Organizational Strategy [00:01:55–00:03:39] Continuous Improvement as a Strategic Mindset [00:03:42–00:04:44] Strategy vs. the Internal Audit Plan [00:04:55–00:07:54] Building Capabilities for the Future, Not Just Executing Audits [00:05:35–00:07:33] Foresight and Scenario Analysis in Internal Audit Strategy [00:08:01–00:14:39] Predicting the Future: Preparing Internal Audit for Multiple Scenarios [00:10:19–00:13:54] Linking Strategy to Performance Measurement (Standard 12.2) [00:15:21–00:19:59] Balancing Required vs. Aspirational Performance Measures [00:16:40–00:19:26] Using Strategy and Measurement to Strengthen Governance Assurance [00:19:26–00:20:39] Wrap-Up and Available Companion Tools [00:21:20–00:23:09] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Global Practice Guide: Developing an Internal Audit Strategy Vision 2035 2026 Fraud Unmasked Virtual Conference Global Internal Audit Standards Performance Measurement Tool Internal Auditing Competency Framework Templates Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Deborah Poulalion and Brian Tremblay unpack the top three risks from the 2026 Risk in Focus report: geopolitical uncertainty, digital disruption, and cybersecurity. They discuss why these risks are rising, how internal audit can approach "hard-to-audit" areas, and how to use Risk in Focus to drive stronger conversations with leadership. For a global perspective, read insights from audit leaders in the article 'Risk Around the World.' HOST: Deborah Poulalion Senior Manager, Research & Insights, The IIA   GUEST: Brian Tremblay, CIA, CISA Vice President of Internal Audit, V2X Member, Internal Audit Foundation, Committee of Research and Education Advisors KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:32] The Foundation's Research [00:00:32–00:01:32] Using the North American Report & Board Briefing [00:01:32–00:02:29] Geopolitical and Macroeconomic Uncertainty [00:02:29–00:07:01] Digital Disruption and AI Risk [00:07:01–00:12:13] Cybersecurity: Still the Top Risk [00:12:13–00:18:03] Final Takeaways: Going Deeper on Complex Risks [00:18:03–00:19:41] Closing Thoughts and Where to Access Risk in Focus [00:19:41–00:20:12] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Risk in Focus 2026 'Risk Around the World' — Internal Auditor Magazine (December Issue) 2026 Fraud Unmasked Virtual Conference All Things Internal Audit: Navigating Sustainability Regulations Global Perspectives & Insights: Sustainability Tool: Assessing Sustainability Readiness Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Extreme weather is no longer a background variable; it's a governance and resilience issue. In this special episode, Christine Janesko shares extended insights from her interviews for Internal Auditor magazine's "Storm Signals" article. Hear expert perspectives on expanding risk lenses, adapting to climate-driven changes, and how internal audit can strengthen preparedness, communication, and continuity in a world of increasingly unpredictable weather. HOSTS: Catie Brown Associate Manager & Producer, Content Development, The IIA Christine Janesko Senior Editor, Internal Auditor Magazine, The IIA GUEST: Rachael Gauthier Meteorologist, Insurance Institute for Business & Home Safety    Hans-Martin Füssel Climate Change Adaptation Expert, European Environment Agency   Paul Morris Retired Public Sector Internal Auditor and U.S. Coast Guard Reserve Officer   Bob Ward Policy and Communications Director, Grantham Research Institute, London School of Economics KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:36] Why Weather Risk Matters for Internal Audit [00:00:36–00:01:01] Severe Storms: The Hidden Driver of Insured Losses [00:01:01–00:02:37] Emerging Hail and Wind Zones Across the U.S. [00:02:37–00:02:59] Extreme Weather as a Governance Issue [00:02:59–00:03:07] Copenhagen as a "Sponge City" Case Study [00:03:07–00:05:35] Communication Failures During Disasters [00:05:35–00:08:31] Correlated Weather Risks and Global Supply Chain Strain [00:08:31–00:10:52] Weather Risk Is Now a Core Resilience Priority [00:10:52–00:11:11] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Storm Signals — Internal Auditor Magazine (December Issue) Knowledge Centers: Environmental, Social, and Governance All Things Internal Audit: Navigating Sustainability Regulations Global Perspectives & Insights: Sustainability Tool: Assessing Sustainability Readiness Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast "Beer Below Deck" Listen to The IIA's Fraud Podcast, brought to you by All Things Internal Audit. The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine's Fraud department.  In this episode, a harmless naval tradition and a single questionable requisition spiral into a costly cover-up. What starts as an attempt to boost morale becomes a lesson in how pressure, rationalization, and weak controls can turn minor misjudgments into major fraud. Access the full article here. Read the December issue here. Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's Fraud Analytics for Internal Auditors Certificate, available online and in-person. Chapters: Introduction to the Case (00:00:00) Part 1: The Tradition That Looked Harmless (00:00:24) Part 2: The Cover-Up (00:01:57) Part 3: Reading the Fraud Triangle (00:03:47) Part 4: The Costs (00:05:00) Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify Youtube LibsynDeezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Brad Monterio and Tom McLeod take an unfiltered look at The IIA's future. From transforming learning through AI and simulation to reimagining the Standards and global influence, they discuss what it takes to build a next-generation IIA; one defined by intelligent, integrated assurance, agility, and audacious thinking. HOST: Brad Monterio, Executive Vice President of Learning, Licensing, and Sales, The IIA GUEST: Tom McLeod, Former Chief Audit Executive and Chief Risk Officer; Global Assurance and AI Advisor KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:38] A Pivotal Moment for the Profession [00:00:38–00:03:55] AI's Opportunity and Threat to Internal Audit [00:03:55–00:06:51] Real-Time Assurance and the Death of Sampling [00:08:23–00:10:22] Risk, Trust, and Assurance in a New Era [00:10:22–00:12:02] The Rise of the Algorithm Auditor [00:19:13–00:21:07] Rethinking Pathways Into the Profession [00:21:07–00:23:06] Future of Certifications and Standards [00:23:06–00:26:06] Education Through Simulation [00:26:06–00:30:07] The Three E's: Efficiency, Effectiveness, Education [00:29:54–00:30:35] A Global, Cross-Disciplinary Moment [00:30:35–00:39:57]   Assurance in the Loop [00:41:01–00:43:08] Internal Audit as Ethical Conscience and Risk Educator [00:43:20–00:44:44] Provocation With Purpose [00:48:01–00:49:06] Four Challenges for The IIA [00:49:13–00:53:00] Reimagining The IIA: Intelligent or Integrated Assurance [00:53:11–00:55:15] The Need for Speed, Agility, and Unease [00:56:07–00:59:20] A Call to Personal Curiosity and Courage [01:00:03–01:01:17] Final Reflections: Planting Trees for the Next 100 Years [01:01:17–01:01:53] Closing [01:10:56–01:11:21] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 RISE Virtual Conference 2026 International Conference – Singapore Internal Auditing Competency Framework™ Knowledge Centers: Artificial Intelligence Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, IIA Quality Services advisors share firsthand experience conducting external quality assessments (EQAs) in alignment with The IIA's Global Internal Audit Standards. From the importance of governance structure and CAE engagement to navigating the Standards, this episode highlights what makes a high-performing audit function and where even seasoned teams can stumble. HOST: Warren Hersh, CIA, CISA, CPA, CFE Director IIA Quality Services   GUESTS: Susan Verghese, CIA, CISA Lead Quality Advisor for IIA Quality Services LLC Keith Kahl, CIA, CPA, CFE, CGMA, CRMA Kahl Professional Services LLC Lead Quality Advisor for IIA Quality Services LLC Hania Abrous-McCarthy, CIA, CPA, CRMA, CGMA, CFE Managing Director at Gladclif LLC Lead Advisor for IIA Quality Services LLC KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:56] Welcome to Tales from the EQA Trenches — Introducing The IIA's Quality Services team.  Common Challenges When Starting an EQA [00:01:07–00:05:36] Susan Verghese discusses why understanding governance structures is critical, how CAE attitudes impact assessment outcomes, and common improvement areas like charters, manuals, and assurance mapping. Governance and Leadership Support Make or Break Audit Quality [00:05:36–00:07:55] Keith Kahl contrasts two real-world audit functions—one struggling under limited support and another thriving with strong audit committee engagement and trust. Opportunities Under the New Global Standards [00:07:55–00:10:56] Hania Abrous-McCarthy highlights how the new Standards give CAEs a chance to reset their functions, refresh independence, and fine-tune internal audit's value proposition. Advice for Organizations Preparing for EQAs [00:10:56–00:11:59] Warren Hersh encourages teams to use the IIA's Standards Knowledge Center and Quality Services webpage for resources like the Conformance Readiness Tool and insights on QAIPs and topical requirements. Closing and Future Episodes [00:11:59–00:12:16] Warren previews more "Tales from the Trenches" stories coming soon from The IIA's Quality Services team. IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 RISE Virtual Conference Quality Services Standards Knowledge Center Conformance Readiness Assessment Tool Internal Audit QA Checklist Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In the episode, Jami Shine joins Colin May to expose the hidden risks behind payroll and overtime fraud, one of the most underestimated threats to organizational integrity. From toxic workplace cultures to "impossible days" and data-driven red flags, they uncover how emotional intelligence, analytics, and collaboration among internal audit, HR, and leadership can keep timekeeping honest and controls effective. HOST: Jami Shine, CIA, CRMA, CISA, CRISC,  Corporate and IT Audit Manager, QuikTrip    GUEST: Colin May, CFE Professor of Forensic Studies and Criminal Justice, Stevenson University KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:35] Why Payroll Fraud Is on the Rise [00:00:54–00:03:59] Emotional Intelligence in Auditing [00:04:29–00:07:33] Culture as the Root Cause [00:07:33–00:08:10] Real-World Overtime Fraud Cases [00:08:10–00:11:02] Policy Gaps and Long-Standing Practices [00:11:13–00:13:38] Management Oversight and Data Dashboards [00:13:52–00:16:14] Identifying High-Risk Areas [00:17:21–00:18:35] Technology's Role in Prevention [00:19:17–00:21:30] The Importance of Communication [00:21:01–00:23:30] Behavioral Insights and Control Design [00:25:05–00:27:20] Balancing Trust and Surveillance [00:27:20–00:30:00] Technology, AI, and Future Controls [00:30:00–00:31:18] Final Thoughts [00:31:46–00:32:25] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 RISE Virtual Conference On the Frontlines: Auditing Overtime Fraud Online Exclusive: Fraud in Transit COSO Enterprise Risk Management Certificate Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Jacka and Yvette Adams talk about one of the most important, and often overlooked, risk areas — human capital management. From talent shortages and upskilling to culture, fraud, and AI, they unpack how people strategy connects directly to organizational success. Hear how auditors can assess workforce risks, build better relationships with HR, and ensure that governance around both people and technology keeps pace with change. HOST: Mike Jacka, CIA, CPA Chief Creative Pilot, Flying Pig Audit, Consulting, and Training Solutions    GUEST: Yvette Adams, CIA, CRMA Senior Audit Manager, Zions Bancorporation   KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:39] Defining Human Capital Management [00:00:44–00:01:26] Why People Strategy Matters [00:01:26–00:01:50] Top Workforce Risks and Skill Gaps [00:02:36–00:03:37] Upskilling as a Continuous Practice [00:04:16–00:05:51] Talent Retention and Strategy Alignment [00:05:54–00:07:34] Internal Audit's Role in Talent Strategy [00:07:34–00:08:16] Building Trust with HR and Audit Clients [00:08:23–00:09:37] Hybrid Work and Relationship Building [00:10:07–00:11:03] Common HR and Payroll Frauds [00:11:51–00:13:07] AI Governance and Human Oversight [00:14:01–00:14:35] Auditing Culture, Ethics, and Engagement [00:15:04–00:16:44] Using Surveys and Exit Interviews for Insight [00:15:59–00:16:33] Emerging Workforce Risks [00:19:08–00:20:21] Balancing Technology and Humanity [00:21:02–00:21:40] Values, Incentives, and Ethical Governance [00:23:14–00:25:38] Final Thoughts [00:25:38–00:25:49] THE IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 RISE Virtual Conference Global Perspectives & Insights: Social/Human Capital/Culture Risk in Focus 2026 Vision 2035 Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Carey Blakeman sits down with Marko Horvat to discuss how audit committees should rethink internal audit's role amid disruption, data proliferation, and rapid technology shifts. From hidden risks and shadow AI to authority versus accountability, they unpack how boards can navigate change, embrace scenario planning, and prepare for the next disruption with confidence. HOST: Carey Blakeman, CPA, CIA Director of Corporate Governance Engagement, The IIA GUEST: Marko Horvat, CPA Senior Vice President of Business Transformation, ELB Learning   KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:31] How Disruption and New Technologies Reshape Governance [00:00:49–00:02:33] Data Exposure Risks in a Digital-First World [00:02:49–00:05:31] Hidden Internal Risks and Blurred Lines of Authority vs. Accountability [00:06:01–00:08:34] Shadow AI and the Need for Clear Guidelines [00:08:34–00:09:56] Internal Audit's Advisory Role [00:09:57–00:12:14] Reframing Risk Avoidance into Risk Navigation [00:12:19–00:16:34] Scenario Planning for Future Disruption [00:16:39–00:18:42] Final Thoughts [00:18:42–00:19:10] THE IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 RISE Virtual Conference Audit Committee and Board Member Resource Center Governance Resource Center Artificial Intelligence Knowledge Center Vision 2035 Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Dillon Caldwell and Eric Wilson uncover the psychology behind internal auditing: trust, emotion, bias, credibility, and even burnout. If you've ever wondered why some audits succeed and others stall, this conversation reveals the human side that makes all the difference. HOST: Dillon Caldwell, PhD Manager of Research & Insights, The IIA   GUEST: Eric Wilson, CIA Director of Internal Audit & Chief Audit Executive, Gulfport Energy Corporation KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:26] The Human Side of Internal Auditing [00:00:26–00:02:40] Internal Auditing as an Interpersonal Profession [00:03:08–00:04:44] Emotion and Perception in Auditing [00:04:53–00:06:12] Building Credibility and Managing Defensiveness [00:06:25–00:08:29] Reframing Findings as Opportunities [00:10:11–00:13:34] Balancing Independence with Connection [00:16:48–00:19:41] The Culture Factor [00:21:02–00:21:35] Navigating Identity and Expertise [00:21:38–00:24:42] Challenging Institutional Thinking [00:25:04–00:26:42] Psychological Strain and Burnout in Auditing [00:26:47–00:30:12] Closing Thoughts [00:30:20–00:31:10] THE IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 Financial Services Exchange Conference Internal Auditor Magazine: "Playing the Long Game" (Eric Wilson's article) Viewpoints: Human Factors Internal Auditor: "From Critic to Collaborator" Webinar: Internal Auditing and Human Personality: Compatibility Mapping Building a Better Auditor: Human-centric Auditing Vision 2035 Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech Charles King sits down with Kavin Anburaj from Meta to explore how privacy intersects with internal auditing. They discuss why auditors should care about privacy, key data risks, global regulations, and practical steps for auditing privacy programs. From core privacy principles such as transparency, consent, and data minimization, to lessons learned in cross-functional collaboration, this episode provides auditors with a roadmap for tackling privacy audits in an AI-driven world. HOST: Charles King, CIA, CPA, CFE, CMA AI and Internal Audit Leader, KPMG LLP GUEST: Kavin Anburaj, CISA, CIPP/US Internal Audit Director, Meta  KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:27] Why Privacy Matters for Auditors [00:01:18–00:02:04] Identifying Data with Privacy Implications [00:02:09–00:04:12] Core Privacy Principles [00:05:21–00:09:34] User Rights and Data Traceability [00:09:41–00:12:27] Auditing Privacy Programs [00:13:02–00:16:30] Lessons Learned from Auditing Privacy [00:18:10–00:21:18] Writing with Precision [00:21:22–00:23:18] Learning Resources for Privacy Auditors [00:23:28–00:25:33] Final Thoughts [00:25:42–00:26:40] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Auditing the Cybersecurity Program Certificate Global Perspectives and Insights: Cybersecurity Technology Hub Knowledge Centers: Artificial Intelligence Privacy and Data Protection: Part 3 2025 Financial Services Exchange Conference Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple Podcasts Spotify Libsyn Deezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech Sponsored by Grant Thornton Cloud security has become a top board-level concern and a permanent fixture on audit plans. In this companion episode to the Global Best Practices' A Roadmap to Auditing Cloud Security, Adam Ross talks with Vik Rai and Aadesh Gandhre about the challenges of auditing in multi-cloud environments, regulatory requirements, and the importance of governance and shared responsibility. They explore skill gaps, third-party risk, frameworks, and practical approaches to building a phased cloud security audit program, helping internal auditors strengthen resilience and provide real value. HOST: Adam Ross, CIA, CISA Partner, Grant Thornton Advisors, LLC GUEST:Vik Rai, CISSP, CISA Managing Director, Grant Thornton Advisors, LLC Aadesh Gandhre, CISA, CAMS (Sanctions), ITIL 4, Certified Cryptocurrency Auditor, Certified in Cybersecurity Chief Audit Executive, DTCC KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:47] Why Cloud Security Matters Now [00:00:51–00:03:10] Board-Level Visibility and Audit's Role [00:03:12–00:05:51] Regulatory Expectations and Frameworks [00:05:54–00:10:28] Skills and Governance at the Board Level [00:11:14–00:13:49] Shared Responsibility and Security Models [00:14:05–00:17:51] Resiliency, Outages, and Accountability [00:17:13–00:18:57] Starting a Cloud Security Audit [00:19:08–00:21:46] Upskilling Auditors for Cloud Environments [00:22:14–00:23:05] Cloud Security Posture Management (CSPM) [00:23:15–00:27:54] Phased and Risk-Based Audit Planning [00:29:07–00:35:42] Final Thoughts [00:37:02–00:40:43] Closing [00:41:28–00:41:46] IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Global Best Practices: A Roadmap To Auditing Cloud Security Webinar: Hybrid Cloud Security: A Primer for Internal Auditors Tech: Control in the Cloud 2025 Financial Services Exchange Conference   Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

All Things Internal Audit: Fraud Podcast "A Fraudster's Second Act" Listen to The IIA's Fraud Podcast, brought to you by All Things Internal Audit. The Fraud Podcast provides fictionalized accounts of real-world frauds featured in Internal Auditor magazine's Fraud department.  In this episode, a once-trusted employee reemerges after prison with the same charm that once won over colleagues. But beneath the polished image, new schemes quietly unfold, raising the question: how far can fraud go before strong controls bring it to light? Access the full article here.Read the October issue here. Interested in more fraud-related topics? Earn CPEs by registering for The IIA's Fraud Analytics for Internal Auditors Certificate, available online and in-person. Chapters: Introduction to the Case (00:00:00) Part 1: The Generous Colleague (00:00:26) Part 2: A Fresh Start (00:02:22) Part 3: The Payroll Play (00:04:05) Part 4: Caught in the Net (00:05:28) Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify Youtube LibsynDeezer

The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal AuditIn this special episode, hear from Manisha and Iresh Anarkat; a mother and son whose paths in volunteering highlight two sides of the internal audit pipeline. Manisha shares how chapter leadership builds community, skills, and opportunity, while Iresh offers a student's perspective on discovering the CIA, promoting the profession on campus, and stepping outside his comfort zone. Together, they show why volunteering, whether two hours a month or leading a chapter, matters for today and tomorrow. HOST:Catherine Brown Associate Manager of Content Development, Producer, The IIA GUESTS: Manisha Anarkat, CPA Managing Partner, MNA FintTech Services President, IIA-Northern California East Bay Chapter Iresh Anarkat Student, California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo Chapter Certification Officer, IIA-Northern California East Bay KEY POINTS: Introduction [00:00–00:00:35] Chapter Goals and Priorities [00:00:41–00:01:36] Why Volunteer? [00:01:36–00:02:43] Finding Value in Networking and Mentorship [00:02:43–00:03:54] Challenges of Chapter Leadership [00:04:06–00:05:21] Building the Internal Audit Pipeline [00:05:27–00:07:32] Engaging Students on Campus [00:07:44–00:08:52] Lessons from Leadership and Professional Growth [00:09:01–00:12:18] The Value of Volunteering [00:13:02–00:13:32] Advice for New Volunteers [00:14:03–00:15:16] Student Perspective: Getting Involved [00:15:16–00:16:08] Promoting Internal Audit Awareness [00:16:16–00:16:56] Rewards and Challenges of Student Leadership [00:17:01–00:18:07] Networking and Career Exposure [00:18:17–00:18:45] Advice for Students Considering Volunteering [00:18:55–00:19:20] Closing Thoughts [00:19:26–00:19:30] THE IIA RELATED CONTENT:  Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: 2025 Financial Services Exchange Conference Volunteer Leadership Opportunities Volunteer with your local IIA Chapter and Affiliates Vision 2035 Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer