MusicalTalk - The UK's Independent Musical Theatre Podcast

Join Thos for more about Mad About The Boys - A Marvellous Party, Wela Kapela Productions' five star EdFringe Cabaret that tells the tales, and sings the songs, of those three titans of musical theatre in the the first half of the twentieth century - Cole Porter, Noel Coward and Ivor Novello.  From Mrs Worthington and Nina from Argentina, to I've Got You Under My Skin and Keep the Home Fires Burning via Every Time We Say Goodbye, the Great American and British Songbooks have never been so interesting!

MusicalTalk marks the 75th anniversary of the death of Ivor Novello, one of the greatest British musical theatre writers of the 20th Century in opulant style!  Join Thos for the first half of a fascinating conversation with the people behind the 2025 EdFringe Cabaret Show, Mad About the Boys, which looks at the lives of those three friends, rivals and contemporaries, Cole Porter, Noel Coward and Ivor Novello.  Seasoned with a pinch of Seigfried Sassoon, and insights into some of the great songs of the period (Keep the Home Fires Burning for one), you'll feel you've been to a marvellous party! 

After many, many years, MusicalTalk Mini returns! In this revived short-form format, David Herzog brings his expert eye to the Welsh National Theatre's touring production of Our Town. With its stripped-back staging, timeless themes, and delicate balance between nostalgia and existential reflection, how does this iconic American classic fare on a contemporary UK tour? David explores the production's creative choices, performances, and emotional impact, considering whether this intimate revival captures the quiet power of Thornton Wilder's masterpiece — or loses its way in translation!

In this episode of MusicalTalk, Nick and Hannah take a candid and wide-ranging look at four very different theatrical experiences: Titanique, The Little Mermaid's ill-fated "Sea Witch", Into the Woods, and The Choir of Man. From the outrageous camp and unexpected charm of Titanique to the frustrating missteps of Sea Witch, the pair explore what separates a show that works from one that simply doesn't. Along the way, they dig into the crucial role of storytelling craft in musical theatre — why plot still matters, even in the most spectacle-driven productions, and how weak structure can sink even the strongest concepts. Nick and Hannah also revisit Into the Woods, comparing stage and screen to ask whether the film adaptation captures the brilliance of Stephen Sondheim's original — or loses something essential along the way. And not every show gets an easy ride: The Choir of Man comes under scrutiny as they unpack why, despite its popularity, it ultimately doesn't land for either of them.

In this episode, presenter Michael Gordon Shapiro speaks with multi-award-winning composer Stephen Weiner about his newest musical project: an adaptation of The Count of Monte Cristo. Stephen discusses the process of transforming Alexandre Dumas' epic tale of betrayal, imprisonment, and revenge into a compelling work for the musical stage. From shaping the musical voice of Edmond Dantès and capturing the sweeping scale of the story in song, to collaborating with his creative team and preparing the show for its debut, Stephen offers an insightful look at how a classic novel becomes a new musical.

What happens when a screamo guitarist and singer falls down the musical theatre rabbit hole? Nick Hutson is joined by Serena Cherry, whose musical journey has taken her from the intensity of the mosh pit to the drama of the orchestra pit. Serena explains how discovering The Phantom of the Opera at the age of 17 first opened the door to musical theatre, before life — and loud guitars — briefly pulled her away again. Now, much to the surprise of many in her rock band circle, she has rediscovered musicals and embraced them with enthusiasm. Along the way, Nick and Serena discuss a wide range of shows, from The Pilgrimage of Harold Fry to Two Strangers (Carry a Cake Across New York), and even ponder the perceived missteps of Moulin Rouge! The Musical. They also tackle a classic debate among theatre fans: do the songs in a musical need to be "hummable" for the show to be considered good? Plus, Nick introduces Serena to the deliciously dark world of Stephen Sondheim and Sweeney Todd. Join us for a lively conversation about rediscovering musicals, crossing genre boundaries, and why great theatre can resonate just as powerfully with rock fans as it does with traditional theatre lovers.

Nick is joined by composer (and friend of the podcast) Andy Abrams and director Gary Lloyd to talk all things Shining in Misery, following its UK premiere at The Other Palace as part of MT Fest. They dive deep into the creation of the show — from its musical styles and theatrical influences to the challenges of adapting such a psychologically charged story for the stage. Andy and Gary unpack how the piece evolved, how tone and atmosphere were shaped through music and direction, and what it's like collaborating on a brand-new musical with such a dark, distinctive voice. And of course, there's the question everyone wants answered… does Stephen King himself know about the show?

Yes, Sondheim was alive and kicking in 2025, at least so far as his works and legacy were concerned because in London alone, you could have seen Road Show, Here We Are, The Frogs and Into the Woods - and MusicalTalk did!  So, Colm and Thos having put in the leg work, sat down for a run through of each of these varied and, in some cases, seldom produced Sondheim shows, and try to work out why they were the ones to be revived (or premiered, in one case).  It's not always a "Shaw" thing.

The "LeDorean" is polished, the flux capacitor is fluxing and Thos and Nick are ready to take MusicalTalk somewhere very specific in the timeline — though they're not saying where just yet. In this episode, our hosts travel back to a moment when optimism was in the air, creativity was boundless, and entertainment itself was being boldly reimagined. It's a time when music, storytelling and spectacle collide on a scale never quite seen before — and when a certain brand of showmanship begins to redefine what "musical theatre" might mean to future generations. Elsewhere on their temporal travels, Thos and Nick explore what happens when the Gershwins meet Britain: how their sound, swagger and sophistication land on UK soil, and what that cultural exchange reveals about taste, class, and the evolving identity of musical theatre on both sides of the pond. Along the way, expect thoughtful detours into Gilbert & Sullivan, Oliver, Disney as well as philosophical musings on Thespis (or should that be Thospis?) and the inevitable leap forward to modern pop performance — yes, The X Factor gets caught in the time vortex too.

Thos takes a trip back to the town of Hawkins, Indiana in 1983 where times were simpler, hair was bigger (much bigger) and and unsupervised children were getting snatched by inter-dimensional beings!  No, it's not television success story, Stranger Things - it's something even better - the 2025 five star EdFringe production of Stranger Sings! The Parody Musical by Jonathan Hogue.  In this episode Thos talks to the Director, Producer and one of the stars of this amazing, funny and musical-theatre loving musical. If you know the difference between your Joe Raposo and your Jule Styne, then this is the chat about the show for you!

This week on MusicalTalk, Nick is joined by Michael David Glover, the book writer of SEA WITCH, playing at the Theatre Royal Drury Lane on Sunday 1st March. Michael takes us inside the creation of the show — from its origins and development to the realities of shaping a new piece of musical theatre for today's audiences. The conversation digs deep into the writing process, the collaboration between creatives, and the ever-evolving challenges (and rewards) of being a writer and producer in the current theatrical landscape. https://lwtheatres.co.uk/whats-on/sea-witch/

Come From Away undoubtedly put Canada on the global musical theatre map, but this fine, independent and creative nation has a long tradition of writing wonderful musicals! Join David and Thos as they look at new Canadian shows like Life After, The Louder They Get, Grow, Emilio's A Million Chameleons and Confessions of a Red Headed Coffee Shop Girl. Add to that discussions of the Canadian productions of Hades Town and Something Rotten and you have it all without spending a loonie (or a toonie)! 

Nick welcomes the legendary Liz Robertson to MusicalTalk for a wide-ranging and intimate conversation spanning a remarkable life in musical theatre. Marking the 70th anniversary of My Fair Lady, Liz reflects on her experiences with the show and explores why it continues to charm, challenge and resonate with audiences seven decades on. From working alongside the incomparable Rudolf Nureyev to sharing life with lyricist Alan Jay Lerner, Liz offers candid insights into artistry, discipline, love, and legacy. Together, Nick and Liz consider the fascinating ways in which life imitates art – and art, in turn, imitates life.

With the dust now well and truly settled, Nick sits down with Ruby – a self-confessed Wicked obsessive – to take a long look back at the two film adaptations. Together they explore what Wicked has meant to them personally over the last 25 years, how their relationship with the show has evolved, and whether the films live up to the stage phenomenon that defined a generation of theatre-goers. From big emotional highs to creative choices that divided opinion, Nick and Ruby dig into what worked, what didn't, and why Wicked continues to provoke such passionate responses. 

Nick and Hannah look back on a theatre-stuffed 2025, chatting through the shows they saw, loved, questioned and are still thinking about. From West End heavyweights to immersive experiments and concert highlights, this episode is a fast, opinionated tour of the year in musicals. Along the way they discuss everything from Robin Hood at the Palladium, Les Misérables, Matilda, MJ The Musical and Mamma Mia! to newer and quirkier experiences including Grease immersive, Clueless, The Great Gatsby, Edward Scissorhands, Acorn Antiques and Here & Now, Wicked: Part Two, Back to the Future, Paddington, Hercules, and an unforgettable evening with Alan Menken in concert — plus a few theatrical oddities and honourable mentions along the way. A concise, spoiler-light round-up of a very busy year, packed with strong opinions, shared laughs and plenty of musical theatre love. 🎭🎶

It's Christmas again - but didn't we have one twelve months ago?  Well, just in case Dame Shirley Bassey is correct and it all just a little bit of history repeating, we might as well mark the fact in the traditional MusicalTalk way - with our annual festive quiz!  So, pit your wits against Thos as he attempts to bamboozle, educate, irritate and inform with twelve questions covering 150 years of musical theatre history - from 1875 to last night!  With tributes to the late great Tom Lehrer, and touching on musicals about everything from airships, the Gold Rush, Sherlock Holmes, Edgar Allan Poe and Alfred E. Neuman to hybrid power sources and architects, and with songs galore from the last few years -  it's a wonderful way to wrap up a fabulous year of musicals!  Ingredients: May Contain Debbie Reynolds.

Travel back one hundred years as MusicalTalk looks at the world of theatre and musical theatre in late 1925 through the prism of the trade press of the period.  Josh and Thos thumb through an actor's newspaper from a century ago and uncover the invisible world of how the profession presented itself to its peers - through lists of classified messages, official notices, general advertisements, ads for songs, and even updates on which actors had suffered car crashes, colds or nervous breakdowns.  With Vincent Youman's No No Nanette and Jerome Kern's Sally proving the big musical hits of the season, Rodgers and Hart's Mountain Greenery premieriing in the revue Applesauce and the Gershwin Brother's musical Primrose on tour, alongside the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company holding fort in Edinburgh and revivals of the the Belle of New York and Greek Slave (a 19th Century precursor to a Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum), it's a real treasure trove of unexpected information.  And what's more you'll find out the answer to the age old music hall riddle - do kippers swim folded or flat? It's fascinating stuff!

Join Thos as he talks to the cast and writers of the stunning five star show, The Queen is Mad, about the early 16th Century Spanish monarch known to history as Joanna the Mad - but what if her madness was in fact fury?  Find out how this musical explores if Joanna was genuinely insane or whether she was simply the victim of intrigue and oppression, and how it draws out many contemporary parallels along the way.  With insights into the art and craft of acting, singing, writing and composing, and a chance to hear the powerful Stiles and Drewe Best New Song Prize Finalist 2024 song, Locked Away, you'd be mad to miss this enthralling episode!

This week on MusicalTalk, Nick Hutson and Andrew Keating uncover a forgotten gem of musical theatre history as they sit down with the legendary David Wood to discuss the original ABBA jukebox musical: ABBACADBRA. Long before Mamma Mia! conquered the world, there was ABBACADBRA — a fantastical, family-friendly musical created at the Lyric Hammersmith in the early 1980s, featuring ABBA's music reimagined and a brand-new book and story by David Wood. Nick and Andrew dive deep into how the project came to life, the challenges of adapting globally beloved pop songs into a narrative format and why this early experiment in jukebox storytelling has been largely forgotten despite its star-studded origins and irresistible charm.

By Zeus! It's time for MusicalTalks's celebration of our Pick of the Fringe 2025 - the arrestingly titled (and genuinely brilliant) The Real Housewives of the Zombie Apocalypse!  Join Thos as he figuratively feasts on the brains of John Paul Liddle and Hugh Moore, the people behind this amazingly funny, clever, literate, satirical and tuneful modern masterpiece of a musical to find out how it came to be created!  Wittily combining craft, zombie lore, reality television and classical myth with a catchy score and top notch lyrics (quadruple rhymes anyone?), this musical is a bona fide modern classic.  With fascinating insights and three amazing songs, don't let life get in the way of your enjoying this bumper episode!