Blue Sky

Joe Fiveash, a longtime digital media executive with stops at the Weather Channel, IBM Watson, and Raycom Media, joins Bill Burke to talk about Introships, the nonprofit he now leads that helps college students figure out what career path is right for them before they chase a traditional internship. What started over a decade ago as a handful of Atlanta parents pooling their kids together for office rotations has grown into a structured program now serving students nationwide.  Joe walks through how Introships works — combining personality and career aptitude testing, live presentations from professionals across dozens of industries, weekly group coaching, and one-on-one guidance — all designed to help students identify the intersection of what they're good at, what genuinely interests them, and what can support a living. He also discusses how the program intentionally opens doors for first-generation college students who don't have built-in industry connections, why human-to-human relationships still matter in an AI-driven hiring landscape, and why spending time with young people leaves him more optimistic about the future, not less.    Chapters: [00:00]  Intro to Joe Fiveash and his background in digital media  [02:30]  How Introships started — a group of Atlanta parents pooling their kids for office rotations  [06:00]  Why "intro-ships" come before internships — helping students explore before they commit  [09:30]  Joe's philosophy on work and career as a foundation for a fulfilling life  [13:00]  How the program works for students, and the three groups who participate  [18:00]  Addressing the internship access gap — leveling the playing field for first-generation students  [21:30]  How the program has grown — and why Joe is intentional about not scaling too fast  [24:00]  The four parts of the program: aptitude testing, live presentations, group coaching, and one-on-one debriefs  [29:00]  Why storytelling from real professionals matters more than databases and career quizzes  [33:00]  Reflections on working with young people — optimism, energy, and "not knowing what they don't know"  [35:30]  How AI is reshaping career interest — and why students are wary but employers see opportunity  [39:00]  The importance of mentorship and horizontal relationships in career growth  [42:00]  Building a growing alumni network — from 120 presenters to a broader career-support ecosystem  [46:00]  How to get involved — as a student, presenter, or donor 

Educators John Holdridge and Lowell Libby join Bill Burke to talk about the Can We? Project, a Maine-based initiative launched in 2018 that teaches high school students the mindset and skills needed for constructive dialogue across political, social, and cultural divides. Through full-day retreats held in schools across Maine (and now New Hampshire), students learn to move past their first instinct to react and their second instinct to rationalize, and instead reach what one student memorably called her "third thought" — genuine understanding.  John and Lowell share the origin story of the project, how it's expanded into events like Can We Connect? (which brings 250+ students together at the Augusta Civic Center), and how students themselves are taking the work into their own hands—organizing intergenerational dialogues, community conversations, and even a nationwide online class built around the question, "Is American democracy on fire?" It's a hopeful, practical look at how young people are relearning face-to-face conversation in a digital, polarized world.      Chapters:  00:00  Intro to John Holdridge and Lowell Libby and the Can We? Project  02:00  The origin story: a student's concept of the "third thought"  06:00  How the Can We? Project works — full-day retreats, student-chosen topics, and ground rules for dialogue  10:00  Why college students said high school conversations didn't carry over — the gap that sparked the project  14:00  The "big sort," bowling alone, and how Americans have self-segregated into like-minded communities  18:00  Students leading their own intergenerational dialogues — including a town hall on U.S. foreign policy  23:00  Can We Connect? — bringing 250+ students from across Maine together for a day of youth-led dialogue  27:00  Breaking down assumptions: the "ladder of inference" and the gun control conversation between rural and urban teens  32:00  The mindset of curiosity, care, and courage — and "swimming toward the shark"  36:00  School smartphone policies and how phone-free retreats change how students connect  40:00  A nationwide online class asking, "Is American democracy on fire?" — and what happened on election night  45:00  Closing thoughts on optimism, democracy, and the next generation 

Sam Demma had his sights set on a professional soccer career from age five — training in Italy at 13, playing for one of Canada's top club teams by 17 — until three major knee injuries and a torn labrum ended that dream in his final year of high school. What came next is the subject of this conversation: how Demma rebuilt his sense of purpose, first through small volunteer garbage cleanups with a friend, then through public speaking, and eventually through writing.  Just shy of his 27th birthday and about to publish his third book, Return on Goodwill, Sam has delivered close to 800 talks across four continents. In this episode, he shares the stories behind his books — Empty Your Backpack, born from a conversation with a bullied student, and Be Someone's Taco, inspired by a pandemic-era gesture that brought a friend to tears — and unpacks the idea at the heart of his new work: that doing good with no expectation of return has a way of coming back around.  The conversation also covers:  The mentor (a high school teacher) and the "small consistent actions" lesson that changed Demma's trajectory  Why closing the loop — telling people the impact they had on you — matters more than we think  The practice of "assuming positive intent" and how it protects your energy day to day  How Stephen Covey's circles of concern, influence, and control connect to Demma's philosophy  Building a speaking career from scratch: years of cold outreach, a mentor who changed his approach to business, and the slow climb to hundreds of events a year  Chapters: 00:00 Sam Demma's Journey: From Soccer to Success 05:07 Finding Purpose After Athletic Setbacks 11:11 The Power of Intentional Appreciation 16:05 Empty Your Backpack: Letting Go 20:49 Be Someone's Taco: Acts of Kindness 27:04 Return on Goodwill: A Life Philosophy 32:09 Practical Tips for an Optimistic Life 

Comedian, speaker, and humor coach Mike Goodwin joins Bill Burke for this special summer encore presentation of a classic Blue Sky episode. Mike shares how a difficult, sometimes volatile childhood in Camden, South Carolina sparked his lifelong instinct to use humor to ease tension - a skill that carried him through four years in the U.S. Army, a career in higher education and college counseling, and eventually onto stages with America's Got Talent, Dry Bar Comedy, Lifetime, BET, and Amazon Prime.  Known for his clean, expectation-defying comedy (not a single curse word, but plenty of big laughs), Mike opens up about why he chose to keep his act family-friendly, how he tackles sensitive topics like race with honesty instead of division, and how he built a second career as a keynote speaker blending humor with leadership insight. He closes with his signature "comedian's mindset" — the ABC method (Awareness, Breathe, Curiosity) — a practical tool for navigating stressful moments both on stage and in everyday life.  Bill and Mike discuss:  Childhood in Camden, SC - Growing up in a financially stressed, sometimes volatile household and discovering early that making his mother laugh could ease tension at home   Military service - Joining the Army at 18, an unexpected ROTC rank bump, and how cracking jokes during lights-out got him in trouble with his drill sergeant   Career in education - From student affairs at the University of South Carolina to college counseling at a private school, and how standup started alongside that career   Getting his start in comedy - Breaking into standup through his church, thanks to a veteran comedian who gave him a choice: hand over the material, or get on stage and keep the money himself   Why he keeps his act clean - His faith, family, and personal values behind choosing "clean" comedy over vulgar material, and why he sees clean comedy as harder, not easier   Tackling race and identity through humor - How he approaches sensitive topics like race on stage with honesty and generosity rather than division (including his "police repellent" bit)   Defying expectations on stage - Being a "walking contradiction" — a big, athletic, bespectacled guy who looks more like a professor than a comedian   The pivot to keynote speaking - How a chance conversation with a conference organizer led him to develop his "Leadership and Laughter" keynote, and the trial-and-error of blending humor with substantive content   Humor as a leadership tool - Why comedy is "neutral," and how leaders can use appropriate humor to build connection instead of division in the workplace   The comedian's mindset (ABC method) - Awareness, Breathe, Curiosity - a practical framework for handling stressful or unexpected moments, on stage and in everyday life   Reflections on America and optimism - Closing thoughts on the ongoing pursuit of happiness and striving toward a better version of the country    Chapters: 00:00 Intro to Mike Goodwin — comedian, speaker, and humor coach  02:30 Growing up in Camden, SC — using humor to cope with a volatile household   07:00 Joining the Army at 18 and how comedy caused (and solved) trouble in basic training   11:30 From student affairs to college counseling, the unexpected path to comedy   14:00 How Mike got his start doing standup — at church   17:00 Why Mike chose clean comedy over "blue" material   20:00 Tackling race and identity on stage: The "police repellent" bit   26:00 Being a "walking contradiction" — the big, athletic guy who looks like a professor   29:00 From standup to keynote speaking: The "Leadership and Laughter" talk   34:00 Why humor is neutral and how leaders can use it to unify, not divide   40:00 The comedian's mindset: Awareness, Breathe, Curiosity (the ABC method)   45:00 Where to find Mike Goodwin and catch a live show 

In this Blue Sky conversation, host Bill Burke sits down with Melissa Connelly, CEO of OneGoal, a national organization working to ensure every young person can pursue education beyond high school. Melissa's path to this work started long before her career in education. Raised by a single mother on the south and southwest sides of Chicago, she missed more than 60 days of school in eighth grade and landed in her high school's truancy program, a labeling experience that nearly derailed her future.  That changed when a school social worker, Ms. Jeter, taught her how to advocate for herself and get back on track. Melissa shares the highs and lows that followed, including a heartbreaking moment arriving in New York for her freshman year at NYU without enough cash for a cab, and the winding five year, five school path she eventually took to earn her degree.  Today, Melissa channels that experience into OneGoal, which partners with more than 300 schools to support around 14,000 students a year, and now trains school districts directly to build advising into their core curriculum rather than treating it as an afterthought. She and Bill discuss:  Why the average student receives just 38 minutes of college advising in high school  OneGoal's "momentum theory" and why getting a student enrolled isn't enough, they need support through their first year of college too  The idea of "occupational identity" and helping students connect who they are to what they want to contribute to the world  Parenting her own two teenagers through the college process, and what her son's experience taught her about how rarely students are truly seen in school  Why she believes nonprofits should be working to put themselves out of business  The concept of "triggers and glimmers," and why she chooses to look for the bright spots even on hard days  Melissa's story is a powerful reminder that one caring adult can change the entire trajectory of a young person's life, and that optimism, even when it's called "hokey," is a discipline worth practicing.  Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Blue Sky 02:22 Melissa's Early Life and Adversity 08:31 Navigating Higher Education Barriers 13:21 The Mission of OneGoal 21:02 Scaling and Systemic Change 26:01 Ensuring Momentum After High School 33:17 Humanizing the Educational Experience 36:47 Parenting and Educational Policy 46:25 Finding Glimmers and Looking Forward