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Author: Charles Coplin and Mike Smith

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Hosts and former NFL executives Charles Coplin and Mike Smith offer unique insight and perspective into the world of sports. Charles Coplin is an Emmy Award winning Producer and Programmer who has worked for four television networks, two American Sports Leagues, overseen shows with Beatles, Stones and Springsteen, and consulted with Russian media on how to create and grow sports fans. He sits at the apex of sports, entertainment and popular culture utilizing ever changing technologies to tell stories both live and on tape across multiple platforms. Mike Smith is the Founder of Huddle Advisory, an executive coaching and consulting firm that guides people to maximize their potential as Corporate Athletes. Mike founded Huddle after spending over 25 years in sports and entertainment working with the National Football League, NBC, and Deloitte. He has been repeatedly tapped to lead the most important initiatives ranging from NFL leader succession planning to Super Bowl weather planning to NBC’s acquisition of Universal.
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After five straight (mostly) thrilling days of football, Charles and Mike are here to break it all down! Was that Aaron Rodgers’ final game? Is Mike Tomlin headed to television? Which network had the strongest broadcast? Plus, the Bears vs. Packers rivalry is officially back, the CFP ratings take a hit, Fanatics is getting into the content business, LeBron is pat-ching himself on the front of his jersey, and much more! Jason’s Wormbyte pays tribute to the great B...
The final day of the NFL regular season dragged on until the Sunday Night Game 272 thriller, which had major consequences. Charles and Mike react to all of the Week 18 happenings, break down the Wild Card Weekend TV schedule, and highlight another record-breaking ratings season for the NFL. Then, John Harbaugh joined six other fired head coaches, but why are there only two open GM jobs? Jason's Wormbyte tackles the College Football Playoff quarterfinal ratings and the transfer por...
Happy New Year! Charles and Mike ring in 2026 by discussing the surprising College Football Playoff semifinal field. Then, they turn their attention to the NFL to talk about what's at stake in Week 18, try to predict what the Super Wild Card Weekend schedule may look like, and react to the Chiefs’ move across state lines. Plus, Jason presents an audio montage featuring some of the biggest moments since 2000 that leads into a wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of s...
Did Charles really pick the Criterion Channel over the NBA Cup final? He tells Mike why he made that decision, despite the fact that he considered the league's third annual in-season trip to Vegas to have been a success. Staying in the association, expansion may or may not be on the way, and league decisions on both Terry Rozier and the Los Angeles Clippers still hang in the balance. The NFL lost the Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes, and Micah Parsons in a span of a few hours, but wi...
As always, it was a jam-packed week in the world of football. Charles and Mike discuss Sherrone Moore being fired from Michigan and then arrested that same night, Notre Dame taking its bowl and going home, and the Irish-less College Football Playoff field. Then, in the pros, the Colts turn to... Philip Rivers?! The draft will be shorter, the refs will get more training, and the flag football momentum continues. Plus, Charles has YouTube TV fatigue, but there is a big u...
Ho! Ho! Hoe!

Ho! Ho! Hoe!

2025-12-0528:04

Live from New York! For the first time ever, the guys come together to record a live, in-person show! Charles and Mike discuss Lane Kiffin's dramatic move from Ole Miss to LSU and what it means for the overall state of college sports. Plus, a very successful Thanksgiving weekend, and an even more intriguing weekend ahead for the NFL, Netflix's big move to hire Elle Duncan away from ESPN, and more. Jason's Wormbyte covers the ACC Championship Game tiebreaker chaos and F...
Blame it on the Voodoo

Blame it on the Voodoo

2025-11-1938:24

Disney is finally back on YouTube TV! Charles and Mike discuss the deal, which includes a belated, but under-promoted, win for consumers. A big week on the field in the NFL led to more bad calls, bad coaching, and a second spitting incident of the season. Off the field, all three Thanksgiving halftime shows have been announced, but when will we know who Netflix's Christmas act will be? Plus, the NHL embraces prediction markets before anybody else, the Mets lose again, ...
Charles, Mike, and Jason pay tribute to the great Paul Tagliabue and share stories from their time working with him when he was the Commissioner of the NFL. In media news, the YouTube vs. Disney blackout is somehow still going, while ESPN and FOX are playing Grinch when it comes to Netflix's Christmas Day talent. Plus, two more athletes are indicted on gambling-related charges, Nico Harrison is the latest high-profile GM to be fired, and Brian Daboll joins a shockingly long list o...
The Dodgers went back-to-back in arguably the greatest World Series of all-time. Now, how does MLB capitalize on it? Charles and Mike answer that question and react to the epic series from all angles. The YouTube TV-Disney blackout continues, begging the question, "when will the fans say enough?" Plus, a major betting scandal in the UFC, LIV Golf may need to become LXXII Golf, and Tom Brady did what to his dog?! Jason's Wormbyte pays tribute to the great Bob Trumpy, an...
Let's Play 18!

Let's Play 18!

2025-10-2933:28

The 2025 World Series has delivered so far, headlined by Monday's 18-inning Game 3 thriller. Charles and Mike share how long they were able to stay up, as well as their overall thoughts on the Fall Classic from a media and business perspective. Carlie Irsay-Gordon is revolutionizing NFL ownership, the jerseys stain a Sunday Night Football matchup between two iconic teams, and the Ravens' "honest mistake" regarding Lamar Jackson's practice status could be a costly one. Plus, ...
The NBA is back... with a massive scandal. Charles and Mike react to Chauncey Billups and Terry Rozier being arrested for illegal gambling, and discuss what it means for the sports world in general. They stay in the association to discuss NBC's big opening night and Inside the NBA's ESPN debut. The World Series is set, but who is going to watch? Plus, Sean Payton disses his old quarterback and Woody Johnson disses his new one. Jason's Wormbyte on the latest La Li...
Not So Happy Valley

Not So Happy Valley

2025-10-1533:48

It was cloudy again in Philadelphia as the Phillies were eliminated, the Eagles got crushed in primetime, and James Franklin was fired. Charles consoles Mike through it all before they turn their attention to the MLB Postseason as a whole, including a potential Dodgers vs. Mariners World Series matchup and a missed opportunity by the league to promote their stars. Plus, Brian Daboll should expect a big fine, and the Jets are officially awful in two continents. Jason's Wormby...
Another week, another big guest! Mike is back from vacation, and he and Charles are joined by ESPN's Chris Fowler to discuss the state of College Football, the luster-losing MLB Postseason, Jerry Jones' expensive middle finger, and, of course, Taylor Swift. Plus, Chris details the preparation that it takes to call championship events across three different sports. Do play-by-play guys go to the bathroom? Jason joins the convo to reminisce with Chris about early Colleg...
With Mike on vacation this week, Charles is joined by New York Times Best-Selling Author Jeff Pearlman to discuss some of his favorite subjects, including the Mets, the Jets, Walter Payton, and his upcoming book "Only God Can Judge Me: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur". Then, Charles and Jeff discuss Bad Bunny headlining Super Bowl LX, the NFL's continued growth internationally, and the state of baseball as we enter the postseason. Plus, Jason's Wormbyte features a classic rant on t...
Get Off My Lawn

Get Off My Lawn

2025-09-2444:23

It was a great weekend for the NFL, but it left Charles with numerous grievances. He rants to Mike on the state of current NFL studio shows, the accessibility of games, and more. Plus, robot umps are here, POTUS is headed to another sporting event, and is a new NFL media deal already looming? Jason's Wormbyte spans from FIFA (of course) to Mike Gundy to Fat Bear Week?! And the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.
Brady, Brady, Brady. As usual, the GOAT was all over the news this week. Mike and Charles discuss how comfortable the NFL may or may not be with Brady as an analyst, an owner, and a flag football player?! Plus, the tush push is under fire again, and there are more developments in the Clippers' Kawhi Leonard saga. Jason's Wormbyte honors Robert Redford, one of the best there ever was, and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.
YouTube? Lightning? Historic comebacks? The NFL is back! Mike and Charles react to all the happenings of Week 1 and look ahead to the Week 2 TV schedule. Plus, you can add presidential arrival-induced delays to the list of reasons to watch sports at home. Jason's Wormbyte pays tribute to two legends, and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week spawns another classic Prince story.
This being 150 (and they said it wouldn't last) Jason, Charles, and Mike ask each other questions and then take voicemails from long-time fans, including a couple of voices you might recognize. Plus, Micah, and did the Commish just tell us who halftime is?
Spike Lee's documentary about Colin Kaepernick falls incomplete. Charles channels Fox Mulder to suggest a conspiracy theory. Mike joins in, and they talk about proposed MLB expansion and media deals. The HR Derby is headed to Netflix? Will Beyonce perform? Jason on the continued saga of CFB and a thumbs way up for the new Cowboys doc. Plus, the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.
A gigantic week for the UFC, Taylor goes to New Heights, Gruden and Flores strike back. Additionally, do people care about sideline reporters or the Milwaukee Brewers? Mike, Charles, and Jason have much more on the week in spots.
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