Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner

Most people believe that getting better skills, habits, or information is what leads to growth, but that belief is exactly why so many stay stuck at average. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Michael Bernoff, bestselling author of Average Sucks and an expert in human behavior, communication, and influence.Michael breaks down why identity and language, not effort, are what drive long-term results, how internal mental frames quietly control decisions, and why people often live the life they have instead of the life they want. This conversation explores how certainty is created, why congruence matters more than tactics, and how learning to reframe your thinking changes outcomes in business, leadership, relationships, and life.If you want to stop hovering below your potential and start operating at your next level, this episode will fundamentally change how you see yourself and how others respond to you.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:22) Why Most People Stay Stuck At "Almost" (03:29) Identity vs. Wanting More (05:02) Congruence: Why Skill Without Identity Fails (08:01) Influence Starts With How You See Yourself (12:30) Frames, Language, and Decision-Making (16:43) Certainty, Emotion, and Human Behavior (30:19) Reframing Reality to Create Better Outcomes   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly:⁠ +1-480-481-6755⁠   Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠   Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠   Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠   The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠   Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠   Book a call with my team:⁠ https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠   Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠   Listen to the Next Level Podcast Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100⁠ Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV⁠   Connect with Michael Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/michael_bernoff/?hl=en⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/michaelbernoff/ ⁠ Youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/user/bernoff ⁠ Website: ⁠https://michaelbernoff.com/⁠

Most people don't fail because they aren't capable. They fail because they quit when pressure shows up. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with David Price, founder of The Price Group IMO, who overcame addiction and homelessness to build a tech-forward insurance organization that has generated over $60 million in production by helping agents build profitable, remote businesses through better conversations and stronger thinking. By the end of this episode, you'll understand how to raise your pain tolerance, shortcut growth through mentorship, and apply sales psychology to execute consistently when others break under pressure.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:58) From Addiction to Ownership (11:52) Why Identity Must Change Before Results (17:15) Selling Insurance Without High Pressure Scripts (23:05) Emotionally connecting with prospects (28:10) Blind Faith, Momentum, and Becoming the Person First (30:29) Rapid Fire Questions ⁠ Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly:⁠ +1-480-481-6755⁠ Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠ Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠ Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠ Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠ Book a call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠ Connect with David  Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/davidpriceofficial/ ⁠ Youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPriceOfficial ⁠ Tik Tok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@davidpriceofficial ⁠ Website:⁠https://www.thepricegroupimo.com/ ⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/DavidPriceOfficial/ ⁠ We Are Insurance Agents is a Skool community where insurance agents get daily training, real scripts, and practical resources to grow their business Join free for 7 days: ⁠skool.com/insurance   Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠  

Most businesses get trapped competing on price because they never learn how to create value. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Jacob Reese, Vice President of Standard Plumbing Supply, one of the largest family-owned wholesale distributors in the Western United States. Built over three generations. Jeremy and Jacob talk about why communication, not pricing, determines who wins, how contractors get stuck in price-based thinking, and what shifts when you move to results-based selling. They explore how influence applies to sales, leadership, operations, and decision-making, why the best ideas often lose to the best-communicated ones, and how systems like Vendor Managed Inventory help customers buy back time and increase profit. Whether you sell, lead, or run a business, this conversation shows how creating value, not competing harder, is what actually drives growth.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (03:03) Why Everyone Needs to Learn Sales and Persuasion (05:45) Stewardship, Legacy, and Long-Term Thinking (08:30) The Customer Is the Boss Philosophy (11:45) Vendor Managed Inventory and Buying Back Time (17:10) Creation vs Competition in Business (22:15) Price vs Results Based Thinking (29:05) Communication, Influence, and Objection Prevention   Connect with Jacob Instagram:⁠https://www.instagram.com/jacobnreese ⁠ Website:⁠https://www.standardplumbing.com⁠   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠   Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠   Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠   Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠   The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠   Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠   Book a call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠   Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠    

Many salespeople lose the deal long before they speak, because the brain decides whether to trust you in seconds. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner talks with René Rodriguez, bestselling author, keynote speaker, and expert in applying behavioral neuroscience to real-world sales situations. René explains why 93% of communication happens before the words leave your mouth, how tonality and body language trigger either safety or resistance in the brain, and how elite salespeople use framing, storytelling, and emotional tie-downs to guide a prospect's thinking without pressure. If you want to master human behavior, prevent objections before they happen, and sell the way the brain naturally buys, this conversation covers it all.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:10) René's Background in Neuroscience and Selling Change (07:26) How the Brain Makes Decisions (and Why Buyers Resist Change) (11:00) Tonality, Threat Detection, and the 93% Rule (14:52) Body Language, Congruency, and Subconscious Cues (20:11) How Elite Salespeople Prevent Objections (Not Handle Them) (26:12) Storytelling, Framing, and the Tie-Down Formula (33:58) Using Hand Gestures, Tone, and Presence to Increase Trust   Connect with René Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/learnwithrene/⁠ Website: ⁠https://www.meetrene.com/⁠ Amplify Your Influence Book: ⁠https://www.amplifybook.com⁠   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠   Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠   Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠   Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠   The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠   Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon:⁠ https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠   Book a call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠   Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠

High-level persuasion isn't about getting to "yes" it's about making people feel safe enough to say "no." Chris Voss, former FBI lead international kidnapping negotiator and bestselling author of Never Split The Difference, explains why "no" creates control, why tone shapes neurochemistry, and why objections are really fear, not logic. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, Chris breaks down tactical empathy, tonality, framing, and the exact neuroscience behind trust, influence, and decision-making. You'll learn how top negotiators de-escalate resistance, shorten deal cycles, and move people without pushing. If you want to master communication, prevent objections before they appear, and negotiate like the top 1% of persuaders, this episode gives you the playbook.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:23) Why Chris Wrote Never Split The Difference (07:11) "No" vs "Yes" Why Control Changes Everything (10:19) Fear, Uncertainty, and the Real Source of Objections (14:10) Tonality, Neurochemistry, and Tactical Empathy (19:04) How Master Negotiators Practice in Everyday Life (26:21) Reframing, Identity, and Changing How People Think (33:47) Reading Emotions, Not Personalities (41:10) What Every Human Has in Common (and Why It Matters)   Connect with Chris Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thefbinegotiator/?hl=en ⁠ Website: ⁠https://www.blackswanltd.com/ ⁠ X: ⁠https://x.com/fbinegotiator?lang=en ⁠ YouTube:⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk7jHqdlFFDBhC1QIFqi54w ⁠   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠   Join the 7th Level University: ⁠https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/⁠   Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠   Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠   The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠   Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠   Book a call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠   Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠ Listen to the Next Level Podcast Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100⁠ Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV

Most entrepreneurs never scale because they're trapped in a business that consumes their time instead of creating it. Dan Martell, bestselling author of Buy Back Your Time and one of the top coaches in the SaaS and entrepreneurship world, went from juvenile detention to running 100-hour weeks before discovering the framework that changed everything: buy back your time instead of trying to out-hustle your problems. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, Dan explains how elite CEOs use time-and-energy audits, buy-back rate math, and the four forms of leverage to scale without drowning in low-value work. If you want to eliminate burnout, reclaim your calendar, and build a business that grows without costing you your life, this conversation gives you the blueprint.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:23) Why Dan Wrote "Buy Back Your Time" (09:07) The Sales Story That Changed His Career (15:43) Burnout, 100-Hour Weeks, and Losing Balance (21:55) Building the Foundation (26:49) How CEOs Buy Back Their Time (32:44) Saying No and Rebuilding Your Calendar (36:57) Richard Branson and the Art of Delegation   Connect with Dan Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/danmartell/?hl=en ⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@danmartell ⁠ X: ⁠https://x.com/danmartell?lang=en ⁠ Website: ⁠https://www.danmartell.com/ ⁠   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠ Join the 7q.ai waitlist: ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠ The 7th Level U WHOP Community: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/primer?utm_c⁠ Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠ Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠ Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠

If you can learn to speak with confidence, you can change your entire life. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Eileen Wilder the "Queen of Stages" and creator of Speaking School to reveal the communication skills top 1% performers use to speak on stage and influence with certainty. Eileen talks about how to overcome fear of judgment, detach from outcomes, and build high-status presence through tonality and body language. Whether you sell 1:1 or to a room of a thousand people, this conversation shows how elite speakers create trust, move audiences, and turn communication into opportunity. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:28) From Terrified to Six-Figure Days (04:18) Fear of Judgment vs Fear of Speaking (08:23) Command Energy and High-Status Presence (12:38) Skills All Top Performers Share  (20:56) Patterns of Fast-Success Communicators (26:38) Mindset Shifts for New Speakers (29:24) Rapid Fire Questions  Connect with Eileen  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eileenwild/  YouTube: https://youtube.com/@eileenaudreywilder   Get her book: https://www.financiallyfreebook.com/ff-1  The Super Nova offer: https://www.supernovaoffer.com/fb-soc-a-ae-vip-tkt-sales-order-1  Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7q.ai waitlist https://7q.ai/waitlist The NEPQ PRIMER WHOP Community: https://nepqtraining.com/primer?utm_c Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

Sometimes it's not your tactics holding you back, it's the story you keep selling yourself. The wrong mindset can make even the best strategy fail. Mike Arce, founder of Loud Rumor and host of The GSD Show, has helped thousands of companies grow by focusing on the psychology behind performance. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, he breaks down how to think, communicate, and lead in a way that makes growth inevitable.\ Jeremy and Mike talk about why everyone is really buying "better," how fear of change blocks progress, and how to reframe identity, leadership, and environment to unlock consistent growth. They reveal why scaling starts with self-awareness, how to build trust that inspires teams, and what separates people who plateau from those who keep evolving. Whether you're building a business or simply building yourself, this conversation shows exactly how to think like a leader and keep leveling up in every part of life.   Chapters: ⁠(00:00) Introduction ⁠ (12:04) Fear of Change and Why Prospects Hesitate (15:56) Tribal Theory (18:13) Selling The Vision (25:36) Identity Through Stories (31:26) Results vs Constraints (33:01) Sales Maximization (38:14) Think Like Others Not Do Like Others   Connect with Mike Instagram:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/mikearcelive/ ⁠ Website: ⁠https://www.loudrumor.com/ ⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MikeArceLive⁠   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-481-6755⁠ Join the 7q.ai waitlist: ⁠https://7q.ai/waitlist⁠ The NEPQ PRIMER Community: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/primer?utm_c⁠ Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers⁠ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales ⁠rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠ Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠ Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠  

Jay Riding started knocking doors at 16 and never stopped until he'd built one of the largest door-to-door sales teams in America. As founding partner of EcoShield, now the #3 privately-held pest control company in the United States, Jay went from broke college kid to leading 40 locations nationwide. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, Jay reveals how door-to-door sales forged his mindset, his money, and the leadership that built an empire. You'll learn how to master rejection, sell without being pushy, and build real certainty on the doors. Jay and Jeremy break down why culture beats commission, how to turn a summer job into six-figure savings, and the habits that make average reps fearless closers. If you've ever felt stuck, burnt out, or unsure whether sales is worth it,  this episode proves that the right mindset can change everything. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:50) From College Hustle to Pest Control Pro (05:13) Joining Eco shield (08:46) Culture That Keeps Reps Winning (12:32) Residual Income That Pays You to Stay (17:15) How Door-to-Door Builds Mental Toughness (32:08) The Skill Every Salesperson Must Master (37:54) Rapid Fire Questions   Connect with Jay Riding Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayadamsriding Apply for a sales position: https://www.shieldhiring.com Free sign up for wholesale hats: https://www.billestwholesale.com   Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7q.ai waitlist https://7q.ai/waitlist The NEPQ PRIMER Community: https://nepqtraining.com/primer?utm_c Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers   The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/   Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminerpodcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

If your sales, focus, and energy are slipping, your physiology might be holding you back. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner sits down with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon, founder of Muscle-Centric Medicine and author of Forever Strong, to reveal how elite sales performance, mental resilience, and discipline all start with biology. Dr. Lyon shares why top performers can't out-grind their physiology, how to control stress without burnout, and the daily habits that keep energy steady under pressure. Jeremy and Dr. Lyon discuss the science behind neutrality, the mindset that stops emotional crashes, plus simple frameworks for building focus, recovery, and longevity in business. You'll walk away with practical tools to regulate your nervous system, optimize energy, and lead like a true high performer, sharp, calm, and built to last.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:10) Dr. Lyon's Path to Muscle-Centric Medicine (05:58) Neutrality: Ending High-Low Performance Swings (09:30) Training Your Nervous System for Consistency (13:14) Fat Is a Symptom of Unhealthy Muscle (17:20) The Muscle-First Playbook for Sales Focus (22:30) Delayed Gratification & Discipline Drills (27:45) Nutrition for Cognitive Performance (33:50) Strength as a Responsibility   💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly⁠: +1-480-418-6755⁠   ⏱️ Join the 7q.ai waitlist and get early access to the world's first AI that reviews your sales calls, analyzes every move, and gives you personalized coaching from Jeremy Miner's proven methods: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/7q-ai-waitlist ⁠   ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠   📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠   📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠   🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠   ✅ Connect with Dr. Lyon Instagram – ⁠https://www.instagram.com/drgabriellelyon/ ⁠ TikTok –⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@drgabriellelyon ⁠ Facebook – ⁠https://www.facebook.com/doctorgabriellelyon ⁠ YouTube – ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@DrGabrielleLyon ⁠ X (Twitter) – ⁠https://x.com/drgabriellelyon ⁠ Apply to become a patient – ⁠https://drgabriellelyon.com/new-patient-inquiry/ ⁠ Join her newsletter – ⁠https://institute-for-muscle-centric-medicine.ck.page ⁠   ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

What if every sales call you made came with instant coaching from Jeremy Miner himself, powered by AI? Paul Allen, founder of Ancestry.com and now Soar AI, covers how sales psychology and AI coaching are transforming the way knowledge workers master communication. In this conversation, Jeremy Miner and Paul explore how game film analysis, what elite athletes have used for decades, can now be applied to sales calls through AI-powered feedback, creating personalized coaching at scale.   See why most sales training fails (forgotten within weeks), how asking better questions changes entire conversations, and what happens when Jeremy Miner's NEPQ methodology gets cloned through AI to coach hundreds of thousands of salespeople simultaneously. Walk away understanding how to turn every call into a learning moment, why humans must remain at the center of AI design, and how communication skills shape not just sales outcomes but entire societies.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:13) From CD-ROMs to Building Ancestry (05:17) Shifting from Past to Future (08:01) Born with Talents, Built Through Skills (13:33) Why Jeremy and Paul Partnered (19:10) What ChatGPT Can't Do That 7Q AI Can (26:16) Speaking Things Into Existence (33:06) Why AI Creates More Jobs Than It Destroys (37:33) Building Movements That Outlast You (45:28) Where to Get AI-Powered Sales Coaching   👉🏼 Join the 7q.ai waitlist now: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/7q-ai-waitlist ⁠   💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly:⁠ +1-480-418-6755⁠   ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠   📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠   📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠   🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠   ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠   ✅ Connect with Paul Website: ⁠https://workplace-ai.com/ ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/paulallendc/?hl=en

Jeremy Miner sits down with Donald Miller (author of Building a StoryBrand) whose framework has helped thousands of brands clarify their message, connect emotionally with customers, and grow faster through strategic storytelling.  You'll learn how to cast your customer as the hero of your message, avoid the biggest storytelling mistakes brands make, and use emotion to drive people to act, not just scroll past. Donald also shares how to fold StoryBrand principles into real sales conversations to make your message irresistible. Watch until the end, you'll walk away with concrete storytelling frameworks you can apply immediately. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (00:23) The Most Functional Use Of AI in Business (02:11) Biggest Challenge of Entrepreneurs implementing Storybrand (03:21) The Standard For "Good" Writing (05:07) Department Of Defense Name Rebranding (07:17) Telling Your Personal Story For A Brand  Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo Connect with Me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Connect with Donald  Website: https://storybrand.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donaldmiller Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CoachBuilder

If your message isn't clear, your brand won't scale. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner, bestselling author Donald Miller, creator of the StoryBrand Framework, reveals the storytelling psychology that's helped generate over $100 million in sales for brands around the world. Learn why the human brain only pays attention to stories tied to survival and how to make your customer the hero of your brand's story. Donald and Jeremy break down how clarity in messaging, empathy, and identity transformation drive real sales conversion. Learn how elite brands and entrepreneurs simplify communication, connect emotionally, and master storytelling in sales. You'll leave with practical storytelling tactics you can apply today to boost conversions and make your brand impossible to ignore.   Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:42) How the Brain Reacts to Storytelling (04:33) From Memoir Writer to Marketing Expert (07:16) Why Brands Shouldn't Be the Hero (10:52) The P.E.A.C.E. Framework Explained (15:48) Political Campaigns That Failed at Clarity (22:04) Selling Identity and Transformation (30:17) Storytelling vs. Clever Marketing (38:55) How AI Is Changing Brand Messaging (54:26) Legacy: Becoming a Survival Asset   💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: ⁠+1-480-418-6755⁠ ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠ 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠ 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠ 🔥 More Free Resources Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team:⁠ https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠ Connect with Donald Website: ⁠https://storybrand.com/ ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/donaldmiller/ ⁠ Coach Youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@CoachBuilder ⁠ Youtube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@StoryBrand

If your lead source disappeared tomorrow, would your team still stay? Jeremy Miner and Dean Kozora are building a sales culture where the answer is yes. Jeremy, founder of 7th Level, sits down with Dean, founder of Hardly Selling, to announce their new partnership. Hardly Selling is a sales training agency that focuses solely on sales team growth recruiting new team members, consulting on sales process, and scaling elite sales organizations. Through this partnership, they're helping expand 7th Level's internal sales team and giving top sales professionals the opportunity to train directly under Jeremy's NEPQ methodology inside a proven system. Dean has built over 17 sales teams past $1M/month, and together they share the frameworks that create top-performing sales teams, cultures that retain talent, and systems that scale with integrity. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:19) The High-Ticket Gap (03:14) Onboarding and Product Knowledge (06:54) The Ideal Sales Rep Profile (ISRP) (08:59) Systems and the "Broken Pipe" Problem (12:42) Hiring and Culture (15:52) Leadership, Pay, and Retention (22:12) The 7th Level x Hardly Selling Partnership (29:14) How to Apply Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 Join the 7th Level Sales Team: ⁠https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level⁠ Get Top Sales Talent For Your Business: ⁠https://calendly.com/d/cshn-ztm-n69/7th-level-recruiting⁠ ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠ 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠ 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠ 🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner  Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠ ✅Connect with Dean Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dean.kozora⁠ Website: ⁠https://hardlyselling.com

In this interview, Cody Sperber real estate investing meets sales strategy, mentorship, and funnels for business scaling. Cody shares how he went from Navy service to ASU, to flipping his first wholesale deal, and eventually building and selling Clever Investor while co-founding new companies like Floor Daddy. You'll learn why mentorship beats hustle, how to build grit, and why most entrepreneurs fail by chasing too many things at once. We also break down Cody's funnel strategy that drove over $120M in online education sales, and how real estate investing mentorship and systems changed his life. Chapters (00:00) Cody Sperber's Start in Real Estate Investing (05:20) Struggles, Debt & the Mentor Who Flipped the Switch (10:22) First $40K Deal, Chip on the Shoulder & Momentum (15:42) Mentorship, Masterminds & Authentic Selling in Real Estate (20:38) Systems, SOPs & Scaling a Real Estate Education Business (25:37) Funnels, Hard Sales & $120M Online Education Model (30:24) Culture, Team Buy-In & Avoiding Entrepreneur Mistakes (36:42) Events, Masterminds & Cody's Next Chapter Originally recorded October 2024 but brought back from the vault because the insights are as relevant today as ever. Connect with Cody Sperber Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialcodysperber  YouTube: https://youtube.com/@cleverinvestor⁩   Floordaddy: https://floordaddy.com/ Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52  

Ever feel like you should be further ahead in life? In this episode, Dean Graziosi, Tony Robbins' longtime business partner who has built 14 companies generating over $1B, shares why self-education beats the ignorance tax, how to sell as service, and the one hook that turned a flop into $100M. We dive into sales as a moral obligation, why money truly solves problems, and the difference between persuasion and lasting influence. If you want to collapse decades into days, this conversation will shift how you think about success, impact, and growth. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (01:12) Selling firewood in high school (04:57) Self education over formal education (06:18) The ignorance tax (14:29) Turning inspiration into action (19:12) Sales as a moral duty (23:34) What people truly want (26:19) Money solves problems (31:32) Persuasion versus influence (34:30) The hundred million dollar hook (42:19) Work life integration (45:43) The power of hunger 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: ⁠https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org⁠ 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: ⁠https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more⁠ 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠ 🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup⁠ Book a Clarity Call with my team: ⁠https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/⁠ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner  ⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52⁠ ✅ Connect with Dean Graziosi Website: ⁠https://learn.mastermind.com/dean-graziosi-media⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/deangraziosi⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@deangraziosi⁩ ⁠ 

Jeremy Miner sits down with ex-CIA officer Andrew Bustamante to reveal the truth about surveillance, persuasion, and influence under pressure. In this live Q&A, Andrew shares what it feels like to escape a hostile country, and how emotional regulation, mirroring, and tactical communication build trust in both espionage and sales. You'll also learn why mastery comes from action, not study, and how to spot manipulation traits in leadership. Watch until the end, you'll walk away with tools you can use in business, negotiations, and everyday conversations. Chapters: (00:00) The Most Dangerous Mission  (01:12) Moral Flexibility vs Immorality  (02:35) Do Masks Really Work? (03:32) How Spies Check Body Language  (05:33) Can Sales Ever Truly Be Mastered? (07:16) How to Spot Manipulation and Counter-Tradecraft (09:03) Mastery Through Execution, Not Endless Study (09:59) Identifying Psychopathic Traits in Corporate Leaders Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-637-2944 The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Me Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/⁨@JeremyMinerPodcast⁩   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Andrew Bustamante Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/45htccD Read Andrew's CIA book Shadow Cell:  https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook Follow Andy on YouTube:  https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain:  https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the EverydaySpy Podcast:  https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

Former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante joins Jeremy Miner to reveal spy tradecraft, persuasion secrets, and the hidden psychology of influence. A U.S. Air Force veteran turned CIA officer and founder of EverydaySpy, Andrew has built a global platform teaching intelligence techniques for business, leadership, and everyday life. In this episode, Andrew takes you inside nuclear bunkers, covert disguises, and the Shadow Cell operation the CIA tried to block. He breaks down the three lives every human hides (public, private, secret), how spies win compliance without pressure, and why the Agency fought to keep his book classified. You'll hear tradecraft never before shared publicly and how you can use it to sell, influence, and connect on a deeper level.  Chapters (00:00) From Air Force Bunkers to CIA Recruitment (09:26) Shadow Cell: The Book Fight & the CIA Mole (15:45) Public, Private & Secret Lives: The Persuasion Playbook (19:46) Sensemaking & Mirroring: Creating Compliance (26:07) Tonality, Baselines & Emotional Connection (43:35) Disguises & Cleansing Routes: Real Spy Tradecraft (54:47) AI, Surveillance & The Future of Persuasion (01:02:40) EverydaySpy: Where to Learn More  Curious how to apply this to your sales strategy? Text me directly at 480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Andrew Bustamante Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/45htccD Read Andrew's CIA book Shadow Cell: https://geni.us/ShadowCellBook Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-Bustamante Explore Spy School: https://everydayspy.com/ Support Andy's sponsor Axolt Brain: https://axoltbrain.com/andy Listen to the EverydaySpy Podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcast

You don't get paid for time you get paid for skills. In today's economy, average won't cut it. In this episode, I sit down with performance coach Sabastian Enges to break down why the market rewards producers (not consumers), how to build high-value skill sets that print options for your family, and the real triad that scales results: skills, mentality, and character. We get tactical on consultative selling, problem-finding vs. blaming "bad leads," and why communication is the ultimate meta-skill for leaders, salespeople, and anyone who wants influence. If you're serious about leveling up income, impact, and freedom, this conversation is your playbook. (00:00) Introduction (01:14) Sales & Speaking Equals Energy Transfer (03:27) Growing Up Broke To Learning Sales Early (05:24) First Business at 11: Blackberries & Hustle (07:04) Why Excellence Pays, Mediocrity Doesn't (10:10) People Don't Want Millions, They Want to Consume Them (16:07) Building Phoenix Consulting After 2008 (28:27) Empathy-Driven Selling: Treat People Like Grandma (31:12) Sales Is Communication & Leadership (38:29) Money Buys Options, Not Meaning 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Sabastian Enges Website: https://www.sabastianenges.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sabastianenges TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sabastianenges Twitter: https://x.com/sabastianenges LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabastianenges Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@SabastianEnges

Consistency builds trust. Perfectionism kills progress. In this episode, Jeremy Miner sits down with Matt Gottesman, 3x founder, top-ranked podcaster, and creator of The Niche Is You®, to unpack the real psychology of building a brand that actually lasts. Matt shares how to resist chasing trends, why devotion beats discipline, and the simple shifts that will keep your audience loyal for years. Whether you're a creator, entrepreneur, or sales professional, this conversation will help you align your work with who you really are and build something people can trust. Chapters (00:00) Introduction (05:24) Why Consistency Builds Trust and Authority (09:42) Stop Trying to Be the Next Someone Else (15:09) Evolving Without Losing Your Core Identity (17:29) Devotion vs Discipline in Mastery (26:05) Authenticity, Trust, and Building in Public (39:28) Clarity, Decisions, and Trusting Yourself 💬 Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-418-6755 ➡️ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org 📗 Want the full NEPQ framework? This is what 350,000+ reps use to close more deals: https://go.nepqblackbook.com/learn-more 📘 Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 🔥 More Free Resources  Join the Sales Revolution Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesrevolutiongroup Book a Clarity Call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ ✅ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMiner   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 ✅ Connect with Matt Gottesman Substack: https://mattgottesman.substack.com The Niche Is You® Podcast: https://mattgottesman.com/podcast Website: https://mattgottesman.com/about Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattgottesman YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCMYfij15oGv5K8ty1y-2JWg