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A soulful exploration of the hospitality industry through the eyes of celebrated restaurateur and author Steve Palmer. Combining the richness of grace—a pre-meal tradition in the South, a gift freely given, and a timeless virtue—with the transformative journey of hospitality, this podcast dives deep into the stories behind the industry. With heartfelt conversations, Palmer uncovers personal journeys of resilience, mental health breakthroughs, and sources of inspiration, showcasing how lives are shaped and changed by the world of service. Say Grace is your place to reflect, connect, and savor thoughtful narratives. Pull up a chair, and join the dialogue about food, people, and the grace that sustains them both.
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Brooks Reitz is a Charleston-based entrepreneur, investor, and writer. He is the owner of Leon's Oyster Shop, Little Jack's Tavern, and Melfi's, in Charleston, and The Bell, in New Orleans. He is also the founder of Jack Rudy Cocktail Co., a manufacturer of mixers and bar tools distributed internationally, and along with his wife, Erin, he is the co-founder of E.M. Reitz, making high-end shirts for women and men in NYC's Garment District. Via investments in brands like Blackbird and MUBI, he is focused on championing food, art, media, and culture; he writes his weekly newsletter, A Small & Simple Thing, available on Substack, through the lens of these experiences.In this episode, Brooks joins Steve to discuss how he discovered his love of hospitality, the ever-evolving Charleston culinary scene, and where he finds inspiration—both personally and professionally.Thank you to Stolon Food Lab for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
In this special kick-off to 2026, host Steve Palmer and his previous and upcoming guests, including Frank Stitt, Kat Kinsman, Andrew Zimmern, and more, share thoughts on what trends we will see more (and less of) in the new year. Thank you to our studio partners for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
In this special holiday episode, host Steve Palmer takes a moment to reflect on the past year and highlight the important work his partners, community, and friends are doing within the hospitality community and beyond. Thank you to Sloss Real Estate for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Hunter Lewis is the Editor-in-Chief of Food & Wine, a role he has held since 2017, overseeing the brand’s print, digital, and experiential platforms. He began his career in food journalism after leaving a newspaper job in Durham, North Carolina, for a spot in Jonathan Waxman’s kitchen at Barbuto. This experience shaped his editorial approach and deepened his connection to restaurant culture. His path through the food media industry includes leadership roles at Saveur, Bon Appétit, Southern Living, and Cooking Light, ultimately leading to his current position at Food & Wine. In this episode, Hunter joins Steve Palmer to talk through the early days of their careers, the evolution of traditional media, and how competition can benefit everyone.Thank you to Smithey Ironware and to Sloss Real Estate for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
John T. Edge is the writer and host of the Emmy Award-winning television show TrueSouth on the SEC Network, ESPN, Disney, and Hulu. He also pens a beloved restaurant column for Garden & Gun and is the author of The Potlikker Papers: A Food History of the Modern South, which was named one of the best books of the year by NPR and Publishers Weekly. His most recent work is a memoir, House of Smoke: A Southerner Goes Searching for Home, which was published in September 2025 and has been met with great acclaim. In addition to his writing and storytelling, John serves the University of Mississippi as a teacher, writer-in-residence, and director of the Mississippi Lab, and mentors students in the University of Georgia’s MFA program in narrative nonfiction. In this episode, John T. sits down with Steve Palmer to explore Southern food culture and storytelling, reflect on his journey through roles in academia and food media, and unpack the important, layered themes that connect them.Thank you to Smithey Ironware and Sloss Real Estate for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Frank Stitt is the chef and owner of Highlands Bar & Grill, Bottega, and Chez Fonfon in Birmingham, AL, and one of the most influential voices in modern Southern cuisine. A multi–James Beard Award winner and accomplished author, he has played a pivotal role in redefining Southern dining on a national stage while helping put Birmingham’s culinary scene on the map. As a founding member of the Southern Foodways Alliance, he has also been instrumental in documenting and preserving the region’s rich food culture, championing local farmers, artisans, and traditions.In this episode, Frank joins Steve for a conversation that ranges from his early career as a young American chef working in Europe’s top kitchens, to exploring different cuisines in his restaurants, and the power of truly knowing an ingredient.Thank you to Smithey Ironware and Sloss Real Estate for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
In this special solo episode, host Steve Palmer shares his perspective on navigating the holiday season—a time that can be especially challenging for many—as a recovering addict working in the hospitality industry. If you or someone you know in hospitality needs support this season (or any time of year), Ben’s Friends offers professional resources and a strong, compassionate community.Thank you to Pepper Place for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Jon Murray is the founder of Noko and Kase, two acclaimed East Nashville restaurants that blend Southern roots with a global point of view. With nearly two decades of hospitality experience, Jon is reshaping modern dining through purpose-driven concepts, people-first workplaces, and a commitment to thoughtful, intentional guest experiences. His work challenges industry norms while setting a new standard for creativity and care in contemporary hospitality.In this episode, Jon sits down with his long-time friend, Steve Palmer, to discuss the challenges of leadership, learning to balance multiple restaurant concepts, and their journey to sobriety through the “gift of desperation.”Thank you to Lagos Creative for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Max Goldberg is the co-owner of Strategic Hospitality, the group behind some of Nashville’s most celebrated restaurants and bars, including The Patterson House, The Catbird Seat, Bastion, Henrietta Red, Locust, and Kisser. Since founding the company with his brother Benjamin in 2006, he has helped shape Nashville’s dining culture and grown the group to more than 500 employees. He serves on several local boards, is a member of the Tennessee State Workforce Development Board, and has been recognized by Forbes’ 30 Under 30, Robb Report’s Rising Power Players in American Fine Dining, and as a multi-year James Beard Award nominee for Outstanding Restaurateur.In this episode, Max joins Steve for a conversation about the changing landscape of Nashville, how COVID shifted his perspective, what it’s like to work closely with his brother, and more.Thank you to Lagos Creative for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Will Guidara is the author of the New York Times Bestseller Unreasonable Hospitality. He is the former co-owner of Eleven Madison Park, which under his leadership was named the Best Restaurant in the World. He is the host of The Welcome Conference, a Co-Producer on the Emmy Award-winning series The Bear, and is a recipient of the Wall Street Journal Innovator Award.In this episode, Will sits down with Steve for an inspiring conversation that ranges from discussing the people who had the most influence on his career, to the evolution of the hospitality industry, to the importance of creativity and how to create something that will outlive us all.Thank you to Lagos Creative for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Executive Chef Graham House, Chef de Cuisine Sean McMullen, and Director of Food & Beverage Sarah Charles Hereford are the talented trio behind beloved restaurant Luminosa at The Flat Iron Hotel in Asheville. Known for its elegant yet approachable take on Italian cuisine, Luminosa celebrates the spirit of the mountains through local ingredients, seasonal flavors, and warm, polished hospitality. A Western North Carolina native, Graham marries Italian traditions with Appalachian sensibilities, creating dishes that honor both heritage and innovation. Sean brings nearly twenty years of experience and a deep knowledge of preservation techniques to the kitchen, grounding each dish in authenticity and care. Overseeing both Luminosa and the hotel's intimate speakeasy, Red Ribbon Society, Sarah infuses every guest experience with creativity and refinement. Together, they're redefining modern mountain dining with a unique perspective. In this episode, the Luminosa team joins Steve for a conversation about empathy in the kitchen, uniting their team with a common goal, and finding joy in cooking and service. Thank you to The Flat Iron Hotel for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Meherwan and Molly Irani are the husband-and-wife duo behind Chai Pani Restaurant Group and Spicewalla. Since opening the flagship Chai Pani location in Asheville, NC in 2009, Molly, Chief Hospitality Officer, and Meherwan, Chef and CEO, have grown Chai Pani into a nationally celebrated brand with a team of over 300 people, seven restaurants across the Southeast and Washington, D.C., and a growing spice empire. Together, Molly, Meherwan, and their team earned the James Beard Foundation's award for Outstanding Restaurant in 2022, all while changing the perception of Indian food in America and building a groundbreaking internal hospitality culture, leading with a foundational belief that to be in the service industry is to be "of service" to humanity. In the first episode of season two, Meherwan and Molly join Steve for a conversation about the power of their restaurants' impact on Southern cuisine, the value of business growth while not losing the soul of your company, the importance of taking care of your people, and the true meaning of hospitality. Thank you to The Flat Iron Hotel for allowing us to use their space to film this episode.
Simone Reggie is the Director of Sales & Marketing at French Truck Coffee, where she leads marketing, community relations, and partnerships across the company's 12 locations. Based in New Orleans, Simone brings over a decade of experience in the food and beverage industry, with a career defined by meaningful relationships and a strong connection to both brands and the communities they serve. Her work blends strategic vision with a genuine passion for hospitality, making her a trusted voice in the world of coffee and beyond. In this episode, Simone and Steve chat about the impact her Lebanese heritage had on her relationship with hospitality, the doors that honesty opens, and lessons motherhood has taught her in the workplace. Thank you to Stolon Food Lab for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
Dr. Lilly Jan is a faculty member at Cornell University's Nolan School of Hotel Administration, where she teaches courses on restaurant design, food and beverage management, and global cuisines. A seasoned educator, consultant, and industry pro, she brings nearly 15 years of hands-on experience in catering, events, retail, and television to her work. Outside the classroom, she specializes in food and beverage entrepreneurship, guiding small business owners through everything from concept development to market launch. Her consulting work has supported a wide range of ventures—from food trucks and on-demand delivery services to CPG startups and community markets—making her a go-to expert for those looking to turn a culinary idea into a thriving business. In this episode, Lilly joins Steve for a conversation about teaching a culinary program without attending culinary school herself, the historical context of different cuisines, and her love for soup dumplings. Thank you to Stolon Food Lab for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
Andrew Carmellini is the chef and co-founder of NoHo Hospitality Group, which operates celebrated restaurants including Locanda Verde, The Dutch, Lafayette, Carne Mare, and Bar Primi in New York City, as well as multiple establishments in Miami, Detroit, and Nashville. He has become a defining figure in American hospitality and modern Italian and American cuisine, known for creating restaurants that not only deliver high-level food but also deeply consider atmosphere, culture, and neighborhood, ensuring that every space feels both aspirational and grounded. His culinary identity reflects a mix of his rustic Italian roots, New York innovation, and a deep respect for regional traditions. In this episode, Andrew sits down with Steve to talk about his culinary evolution in Manhattan and beyond, his path from working in restaurants to opening and owning them, and his commitment to mentoring the next generation of chefs. Thank you to Melrose Podcasts in New York City for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
Rob Rubba is the chef and founding partner of MICHELIN-starred Oyster Oyster in Washington, D.C. A James Beard Outstanding Chef (2023) and one of Food & Wine's Best New Chefs (2022), Rob brings over 20 years of experience to his work. A passionate vegetarian and sustainability advocate, he's created a plant-forward, zero-waste dining experience that highlights Mid-Atlantic ingredients, earning national and international acclaim for his innovative approach and deep commitment to responsible sourcing. In this episode, Rob joins Steve to discuss how working in diverse environments helped him build a wide range of skills, the inspiration behind opening a vegetarian restaurant and the challenges and triumphs along the way, and how he's redefining sustainability—both in terms of environmental impact and employee well-being. Thank you to The Study at University City for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
Debby Soo is a forward-thinking leader reshaping how the restaurant industry engages with technology and advocacy. As CEO of OpenTable since 2020, she has brought a people-first approach to innovation, introducing AI-powered tools, securing major global partnerships, and advocating for legislation to support restaurants against issues such as reservation piracy. Known for her transparency and direct communication style, Debby has built an executive team that embodies her ethos of challenging the status quo and being authentic. Whether working with MICHELIN-starred chefs or neighborhood gems, she's focused on building trust, driving change, and keeping the hospitality industry at the heart of everything she does. In this episode, Debby sits down with Steve to discuss the challenge of joining OpenTable with no prior hospitality experience, the power of transparency, and how to continue to evolve when you feel fulfilled in your role. Thank you HOST on Howard for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
Michael Anthony is the Executive Chef and Partner at Gramercy Tavern, one of NYC's most iconic restaurants. Under his leadership, the restaurant earned a MICHELIN Star and several James Beard Awards, including Outstanding Restaurant and Outstanding Chef. He's known for championing seasonal, sustainable cooking and shaping modern American cuisine with simplicity and care. Before Gramercy, he led the kitchen at Blue Hill at Stone Barns and trained in Japan and France. Michael's also written two cookbooks and is a voice for food education, local sourcing, and a healthier food system. In this episode, Michael joins Steve for a conversation that explores how beginning his culinary journey in Japan shaped his career, the ways global travel and cultural influences inform his approach to hospitality, and why he believes restaurants play a vital role in building community. Thank you to HOST on Howard for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
Jim Irwin is the President of New City, a commercial real estate development firm based in Atlanta. With a career that spans over $1 billion in new investments across the U.S., Jim is known for reshaping urban spaces with purpose and style. Before founding New City, he led the acclaimed redevelopment of Atlanta's Ponce City Market, one of the largest historic renovations in the country. His latest venture, FORTH, a hotel and social club in the Old Fourth Ward, opened in Summer 2024 and has already earned national buzz, landing a spot on Esquire's Best Hotels in the World list. In this episode, Jim sits down with Steve to chat through the art of building development, the challenges and surprises in renovating historic adaptive reuse spaces, where he found inspiration for the iconic Ponce City Market, and what it feels like to create spaces in his hometown of Atlanta. Thank you to the FORTH Hotel for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
Ellen Yin is the founder and co-owner of High Street Hospitality Group, a powerhouse in the dining scene with restaurants in Philadelphia, New York, and Washington, D.C. Her portfolio includes acclaimed establishments like Fork, High Street Restaurant & Bakery, a.kitchen+bar, and The Wonton Project. Beyond her restaurants, Yin is committed to community service, supporting organizations like Bakers Against Racism, Everybody Eats Philadelphia, and Let's Talk. She also co-chairs the Sisterly Love Collective, an organization that empowers women in hospitality. In this episode, Ellen sits down with Steve to chat through what it was like opening a restaurant right after earning her graduate degree from Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, how she grew from one restaurant to multiple concepts, and what it's like being a non-chef restaurant owner. Thank you to The Study at University City for allowing us to use the space to film this episode.
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