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Shaken Not Burned is the podcast that helps you make sense of sustainability. We unpack the big debates shaping climate, business, food, and society: debunking myths, clarifying trade-offs, and sharing ideas you can actually use to think, decide, and act in a changing world.
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There are talks of endless economic crises, yet the rich are getting richer. Even though many countries promise a welfare system, healthy job markets, and in general decent quality of life for the masses, the numbers suggest that inequality is only getting worse. According to Oxfam, in 2025 billionaire wealth jumped by over 16% to $18.3 trillion compared to 2024 levels. This massive amount of money is spread among only 3,000 people, who are worth an average of $6.1 billion each. Perhaps...
Climate action is facing political backlash, from watered-down EU regulation to the overturning of the EPA’s endangerment finding in the United States. Yet beneath the headlines, systemic climate risk is becoming harder for central banks, insurers and investors to ignore. In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia speaks with Rachel Delacour, co-founder and CEO of Sweep, about the Climate Contribution Framework, developed with Mirova, ICARE and Winrock International. The framework builds o...
In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia Jackson speaks with Rob Cobbold, founder of Native Squared, about what credible nature finance looks like when you start from land, communities, and long-term stewardship — rather than carbon metrics and abstract credits. They unpack why many current funding models for nature protection struggle to deliver durable outcomes, how carbon-first and uplift-based approaches can exclude the ecosystems most worth protecting, and why intact nature often fa...
What happens when the world is on fire – and someone tells you the solution is a financial instrument? In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia Jackson speaks with Sean Kidney, co-founder and CEO of the Climate Bonds Initiative, about how green, climate, and resilience bonds went from a niche idea to a multi-trillion-dollar global market, and why that matters now. This isn’t a technical deep dive into taxonomy footnotes or ESG compliance. It’s a conversation about how capital actually mo...
At last week's 2026 World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, the language of cooperation and resilience may have been everywhere, but the world seems to feel more fragmented, more uncertain and more politically charged than ever. In this episode, Felicia Jackson is joined by Sherry Madera, chief executive of CDP, to unpack what Davos revealed about the shifting risk landscape, and what businesses are actually doing about it. Drawing on CDP’s latest Corporate Health Check of 10,000 compani...
In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia talks with Francisco Martin-Rayo, chief executive of Helios AI about the uncomfortable truth behind today’s food prices: climate volatility is no longer a future risk — it’s already reshaping what we can grow, where we can grow it, and whether certain foods show up on our shelves at all. This isn’t just about floods and fires. It’s about quieter, more destabilising shifts in seasons, rainfall patterns, pests and temperature thresholds that are und...
In a world obsessed with financial capital, what if the assets that matter most for resilience don’t show up on a balance sheet at all? In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia talks to Sallyann Della Casa, founder of the mentorship and learning platform GLEAC, to explore the idea of quiet capital, the invisible forms of value that increasingly determine who adapts and thrives in an AI-driven world. Quiet capital includes trust, networks you can actually mobilise, deep contextual knowled...
2025 hasn’t been the easiest year. Amid ongoing genocides, Trump becoming US president again, and the EU backtracking on some of its most innovative policies, it feels like progress on sustainability matters has been slow, even non-existent. Meanwhile, billionaires are becoming richer, artificial intelligence is taking people’s jobs and attention spans, and the climate breakdown continues at a pace. Notably, last year the Earth reached its first tipping point, meaning that warm water coral re...
Water scarcity is already one of the world’s biggest risks — so why do we treat long showers as inconsequential? In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia talks to Carly Hunt, head of strategic partnerships at Showerkap, about how everyday behaviour shapes water resilience. They explore why most water solutions overlook human habits, how behavioural nudges can cut water use without forcing change, and what early pilots in hotels and universities reveal about the power of small shifts. The...
We are a podcast, but we have to admit: images can speak more than words. A powerful visual can tell a story, evoke sensations, and even inspire action. And isn’t that an essential tool in communicating about climate and sustainability? Yet, for one reason or another, we resort to cliches: a polar bear on melting ice, a blue marble image, hands joining together over some greenery. Sure, they are cliches for a reason – but which are the alternatives, and how can they capture the attention of o...
PFAS, or forever chemicals, are one of the most urgent but misunderstood issues in environmental health. This group of nearly 15,000 man-made substances are used to make many products more durable or waterproof, but they don’t break down. Instead, they accumulate in our water, our soil and even our bodies. While we don’t yet have a full picture of their impacts, we know that they have been linked to health issues, such as increased risk of cancer and immune disorders. So, how do w...
Carbon markets are intended to be the backbone of climate finance – but they’re often criticised for being opaque, inefficient, and riddled with credibility issues. This week, Giulia talked to Alex Taylor, co-founder at KlimaDAO and Carbonmark, about the messy reality of the voluntary carbon markets, from opaque pricing, questionable credit quality, middlemen capturing most of the value, as well as why so many people doubt the whole system. KlimaDAO tried to use blockchain to make the m...
Europe talks a big game on marine protection but, beneath the surface, the picture is far more fragile. This week on Shaken Not Burned, Felicia speaks with Professor Callum Roberts, one of the world’s leading marine biologists and lead scientist on the Convex Seascape Survey. His research reveals a climate risk we almost never count: what happens to the carbon stored in our seabed when it’s torn up by trawling. The ocean floor is one of the planet’s largest natural carbon stores, lockin...
Let’s dive into a part of climate action that too often sits behind the scenes: the hard work of making impact measurable and decision-ready. Sustainability teams may spend years drowning in data, frameworks and reporting demands, yet businesses still struggle to answer the simplest question of all: what’s the best choice to make? This week, Felicia speaks to Nick Catania, co-founder of ClimatePoint, a company that is building bottom-up tools that trace impacts through the full life cycle of ...
What does it really mean to be net zero? In a world overflowing with climate claims, standards are becoming the new currency of trust, as they set technical definitions and create common ground. This week, we’re exploring something that could reshape how the world defines and delivers climate ambition: the new ISO net zero guidelines. Our guest is Noelia Garcia Nebra, head of sustainability at the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). ISO’s purpose is to bring credibility to...
The Conference of the Parties, or COP30 this year in Brazil, can seem remote – bureaucratic, elite, hard to connect with. But it’s also one of the few spaces where solidarity can still take shape. The same is true of philanthropy: when it’s built on listening and trust, not hierarchy or control, it becomes a bridge between people and resources rather than another layer of power. This week's guest is Raysa França, climate justice educator and philanthropy advisory manager at Impatience E...
Working in sustainability means getting the story right. We may have crunched the numbers and estimated the risks of biodiversity loss in a certain area, or the opportunities arising from decarbonising a certain sector. But if we don’t communicate effectively with our stakeholders, there is a real risk that all of this effort will go to waste. This is particularly true when interacting with stakeholders requires navigating cultural differences. So how can storytelling help enable ...
Every day we read new headlines about climate extremes, yet behind the noise lies a quieter, more corrosive threat: misinformation. In this week's episode of Shaken Not Burned, we explore why climate misinformation isn’t a communications issue or a social-media nuisance, but a systemic business risk that can destabilise economies, erode public trust, and undermine effective climate action. Our guest, Harriet Kingaby, co-chair of the Conscious Advertising Network, explains how misinformation s...
This week, we are talking about the turbulence surrounding ESG and sustainable finance. The question we’re exploring: is the backlash against ESG a crisis, or a necessary correction? Joining us is Professor Thanos Verousis, an economist and researcher on sustainable finance at Vlerick Business School. Together, we unpack why ESG is under fire, what went wrong, and how finance can evolve to meet the challenges of the 21st century. It is tempting to see ESG as the future of finance or to dismis...
Think about the products you use every day at home. The hand soap. The cleaning spray. The sponge for the dishes. The face cream. The toothpaste. Why do you buy certain brands, with certain packaging and certain ingredients? Whether it's because they were the products of our childhood, or the advertising has convinced us, or the price is just too convenient, we may not spend much time questioning our purchase decisions. It feels like consumers are pushed towards disposable items t...
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