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Shaken Not Burned
Shaken Not Burned
Author: Felicia Jackson and Giulia Bottaro
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Shaken Not Burned is the podcast that helps you make sense of sustainability. We unpack the big debates shaping climate, business, food, and society: debunking myths, clarifying trade-offs, and sharing ideas you can actually use to think, decide, and act in a changing world.
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Once a somewhat niche industry, critical minerals are now dominating headlines, influencing geopolitical trends and driving international trade. These materials are core components of technologies crucial to the energy transition and defence systems, and heightened interest in these areas is fuelling demand. For example, lithium demand jumped by 30% in 2024, while nickel, cobalt, graphite and rare earths all increased by 6-8% – and it is expected to keep climbing. With the Interna...
The world is starting to feel unpredictable in ways that are difficult to pin down. Not just because of individual events, but because of how many different pressures are building at the same time. Climate impacts are becoming more visible, geopolitics is fragmenting, technology is moving quickly and economic conditions are being shaped by multiple shocks at once rather than a single, identifiable cause. It is tempting to treat these as separate issues. Climate as an environmental problem, ge...
Two years on, we have reached season 6! We have explored a wide range of topics, from the just transition to the planetary boundaries, through the circular economy and climate risk. Now, it's time to delve even deeper into our quest to help you build sustainability literacy. The current multicrisis is affecting industries in different ways: companies are facing challenges that are unique to the context in which they operate. That’s why, in this season, we’re tackling one sector at a time, ...
The food system underpins our entire society. Its stability is crucial: when it starts to wobble, prices rise, availability becomes uncertain, and stress travels quickly from farms to household. Yet, much of modern agriculture still operates under deep uncertainty. Farmers spend tens of billions of dollars every year on crop protection chemicals, largely without being able to see how much of what they actually apply reaches the plant. When you don't have that visibility, the ratio...
Buildings shape much of our daily lives, but their environmental impact often goes unnoticed. Yet the built environment accounts for nearly 40% of global energy-related carbon emissions, from the energy used to heat and power buildings to the materials used to construct them. In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia talks to Drew Shula, founder and CEO of Verdical Group, about the role the construction sector plays in climate action. The conversation explores how decisions made during de...
There are talks of endless economic crises, yet the rich are getting richer. Even though many countries promise a welfare system, healthy job markets, and in general decent quality of life for the masses, the numbers suggest that inequality is only getting worse. According to Oxfam, in 2025 billionaire wealth jumped by over 16% to $18.3 trillion compared to 2024 levels. This massive amount of money is spread among only 3,000 people, who are worth an average of $6.1 billion each. Perhaps...
Climate action is facing political backlash, from watered-down EU regulation to the overturning of the EPA’s endangerment finding in the United States. Yet beneath the headlines, systemic climate risk is becoming harder for central banks, insurers and investors to ignore. In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia speaks with Rachel Delacour, co-founder and CEO of Sweep, about the Climate Contribution Framework, developed with Mirova, ICARE and Winrock International. The framework builds o...
In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia Jackson speaks with Rob Cobbold, founder of Native Squared, about what credible nature finance looks like when you start from land, communities, and long-term stewardship — rather than carbon metrics and abstract credits. They unpack why many current funding models for nature protection struggle to deliver durable outcomes, how carbon-first and uplift-based approaches can exclude the ecosystems most worth protecting, and why intact nature often fa...
What happens when the world is on fire – and someone tells you the solution is a financial instrument? In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia Jackson speaks with Sean Kidney, co-founder and CEO of the Climate Bonds Initiative, about how green, climate, and resilience bonds went from a niche idea to a multi-trillion-dollar global market, and why that matters now. This isn’t a technical deep dive into taxonomy footnotes or ESG compliance. It’s a conversation about how capital actually mo...
At last week's 2026 World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, the language of cooperation and resilience may have been everywhere, but the world seems to feel more fragmented, more uncertain and more politically charged than ever. In this episode, Felicia Jackson is joined by Sherry Madera, chief executive of CDP, to unpack what Davos revealed about the shifting risk landscape, and what businesses are actually doing about it. Drawing on CDP’s latest Corporate Health Check of 10,000 compani...
In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia talks with Francisco Martin-Rayo, chief executive of Helios AI about the uncomfortable truth behind today’s food prices: climate volatility is no longer a future risk — it’s already reshaping what we can grow, where we can grow it, and whether certain foods show up on our shelves at all. This isn’t just about floods and fires. It’s about quieter, more destabilising shifts in seasons, rainfall patterns, pests and temperature thresholds that are und...
In a world obsessed with financial capital, what if the assets that matter most for resilience don’t show up on a balance sheet at all? In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia talks to Sallyann Della Casa, founder of the mentorship and learning platform GLEAC, to explore the idea of quiet capital, the invisible forms of value that increasingly determine who adapts and thrives in an AI-driven world. Quiet capital includes trust, networks you can actually mobilise, deep contextual knowled...
2025 hasn’t been the easiest year. Amid ongoing genocides, Trump becoming US president again, and the EU backtracking on some of its most innovative policies, it feels like progress on sustainability matters has been slow, even non-existent. Meanwhile, billionaires are becoming richer, artificial intelligence is taking people’s jobs and attention spans, and the climate breakdown continues at a pace. Notably, last year the Earth reached its first tipping point, meaning that warm water coral re...
Water scarcity is already one of the world’s biggest risks — so why do we treat long showers as inconsequential? In this episode of Shaken Not Burned, Felicia talks to Carly Hunt, head of strategic partnerships at Showerkap, about how everyday behaviour shapes water resilience. They explore why most water solutions overlook human habits, how behavioural nudges can cut water use without forcing change, and what early pilots in hotels and universities reveal about the power of small shifts. The...
We are a podcast, but we have to admit: images can speak more than words. A powerful visual can tell a story, evoke sensations, and even inspire action. And isn’t that an essential tool in communicating about climate and sustainability? Yet, for one reason or another, we resort to cliches: a polar bear on melting ice, a blue marble image, hands joining together over some greenery. Sure, they are cliches for a reason – but which are the alternatives, and how can they capture the attention of o...
PFAS, or forever chemicals, are one of the most urgent but misunderstood issues in environmental health. This group of nearly 15,000 man-made substances are used to make many products more durable or waterproof, but they don’t break down. Instead, they accumulate in our water, our soil and even our bodies. While we don’t yet have a full picture of their impacts, we know that they have been linked to health issues, such as increased risk of cancer and immune disorders. So, how do w...
Carbon markets are intended to be the backbone of climate finance – but they’re often criticised for being opaque, inefficient, and riddled with credibility issues. This week, Giulia talked to Alex Taylor, co-founder at KlimaDAO and Carbonmark, about the messy reality of the voluntary carbon markets, from opaque pricing, questionable credit quality, middlemen capturing most of the value, as well as why so many people doubt the whole system. KlimaDAO tried to use blockchain to make the m...
Europe talks a big game on marine protection but, beneath the surface, the picture is far more fragile. This week on Shaken Not Burned, Felicia speaks with Professor Callum Roberts, one of the world’s leading marine biologists and lead scientist on the Convex Seascape Survey. His research reveals a climate risk we almost never count: what happens to the carbon stored in our seabed when it’s torn up by trawling. The ocean floor is one of the planet’s largest natural carbon stores, lockin...
Let’s dive into a part of climate action that too often sits behind the scenes: the hard work of making impact measurable and decision-ready. Sustainability teams may spend years drowning in data, frameworks and reporting demands, yet businesses still struggle to answer the simplest question of all: what’s the best choice to make? This week, Felicia speaks to Nick Catania, co-founder of ClimatePoint, a company that is building bottom-up tools that trace impacts through the full life cycle of ...
What does it really mean to be net zero? In a world overflowing with climate claims, standards are becoming the new currency of trust, as they set technical definitions and create common ground. This week, we’re exploring something that could reshape how the world defines and delivers climate ambition: the new ISO net zero guidelines. Our guest is Noelia Garcia Nebra, head of sustainability at the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). ISO’s purpose is to bring credibility to...






















