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The Relational Social Work Podcast is aimed at child and family social workers. Relationships are central to social work practice and this podcast focusses on the importance of connection and relationships in social work ‘with’ children, young people and their families, exploring this through meaningful conversations with inspiring leaders from across the sector. The podcast will celebrate excellent and innovative practice ‘with’ amazing children, young people and families, and have honest conversations about some of the struggles which we can face in children and family social work. There will be a minimum of one episode released every month.

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Matt Clayton

Matt has led and developed a number of services within Coventry primarily around children in care and care leavers. Matt has a reputation for innovative practice with young people at the center. This has included leading on the BAFTA nominated documentary Superkids and follow up Channel 4 show Kids, piloting the first automatic water bill discount to care leavers and the rollout Lifelong Links in Coventry. Matt is passionate about the importance of maintaining and promoting loving relationships for children in care and has had strategic oversight of Coventry’s reunification work as part of this. Matt was recently invited to write the foreword to the NSPCC and Action for Children joint national report:   Home again: reunification practice in England. Matt is the ADCS member of the Family Justice Council and Vice Chair of the National Leaving Care Benchmarking Forum steering group. Matt also Chairs the Adoption Central England Executive Board. After 20 years of neglecting himself, Matt has rediscovered his teenage love of being active outside, having just complete couch to 5k! When Matt isn’t working or running, he enjoys watching football and supports Liverpool.

Hannah Bedford

Hannah qualified as a social worker in 2013, following in her father’s footsteps. Hannah has a passion for practice and practice leadership and has held several roles with a focus on practice development, both in practitioner and management roles. This has including being involved in the development of Coventry’s Social Work Academy, being a Child Sexual Abuse Practice Lead and most recently leading on Coventry Family Valued; a whole-system culture change programme in Coventry, which has led to the safe reduction of the number of children in care in Coventry, against rising numbers of looked after children nationally. Hannah is passionate about restorative practice and has led on the development of Coventry’s practice approach; with a focus on working ‘with’ children and their families, rather than doing ‘to’ or ‘for’ them. Apart from being a proud social worker, Hannah loves dungarees, loves cats and dogs (equally), and supports Liverpool F.C.  

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Send a text Coventry got the Ofsted call so this episode is a bit different. Matt is with us for the intro, and then handed over the reigns to Hannah and Producer Arin who popped to the Family Justice Council Conference in Birmingham, where the theme was ‘The role of technology and AI in modern family law: opportunities and challenges’. Hannah spoke with Sir Andrew McFarlane (President of the Family Division and Chair of the Family Justice Council), Lisa Harker (Director at the Nuffield Famil...
Send a text This episode was recorded at The Care Leaders Summit in York. The episode starts with Luke Rodgers, Founder and CEO at The Care Leaders, telling us about The Summit. Hannah and Matt are then joined by Karla George (Founder of The Baloo Project), Rosie Blackett (Director of Pro Alliance Sports), John Golding (Founder of PATH), Lee Weston (Founder of Believe and Achieve), and Tia James (Co-Founder of The Bigin Project) who are all fellows of The Care Leaders Fellowship. The episode ...
Send a text This episode starts with Hannah and Matt talking about reforms to fostering (and caramel lattes). Matt and Hannah are then joined by Harry Ferguson to talk about his latest book, ‘Making Child Protection Work’. The episode explores how over time Harry’s research moved from asking social workers what they do, to immersing himself in social work practice, through ethnographic research, being with social workers in the places where child protection social work happens. Harry shares s...
Send a text This episode was recorded at the West Midlands ADCS Network, Innovate and Grow Conference and explores some exciting innovations happening across West Midlands region. The episode is packed full of guests, with Hannah and Matt joined by Sandeep Virk and Lizzie White to tell us a bit about the West Midlands ADCS Network and the Innovate and Grow Conference; Jane Dunne and Sophie Carter speaking about problem solving approaches with Coventry and Warwickshire Family Drug and Alcohol ...
Send a text This week Hannah and Matt are joined by Scott Mair, Founder and Director of Fatherhood Solutions and advocate for neurodiverse families and father-inclusive practice. This episode explores the perception of services being designed with mothers in mind, and how this may unintentionally make fathers feel excluded. Scott shares ideas for father inclusive practice, and the impact that this has had through the work of Fatherhood Solutions. Thank you for listening to The Relationa...
Send a text In this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Dr Neil Thompson, social work academic, award winning author and educator. This episode explores the importance of theory in social work practice, and the concept of theorising practice, rather than applying theory to practice. Neil talks about the PCS Analysis that he developed, its relevance in contemporary social work, and the importance of anti-oppressive practice and allyship. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social...
Send a text In this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Chloe Grant, Director of Services, and Matt Blow, Policy and Public Affairs Manager, at Become. This episode explores the work that Become does as an organisation, participation, what the Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill means relation to care leavers and leaving care teams, and importance of the role of Personal Advisors. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you tho...
Send a text In this episode Hannah and Matt are joined by Michelle John, child to parent abuse expert by experience and the founder of PEGS. This episode explores what child to parent abuse is, its prevalence, research into child to parent abuse, and what support there is for children, young people and parents. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for fu...
Send a text It's the first episode of Series 5! We are kicking off the series with an episode that was recorded with a live audience at Compass Jobs Fair in London. Hannah and Matt are joined by Lisa Hackett (Director and Chief Social Worker at Frontline), Jerome Harvey-Agyei (Youth Participation Lead at The Mayor of London's Violence Reduction Unit), and Kam Kaur (Programme Developer and Consultant at The Parting Apart Programme) to consider the Families First social care reforms, with a par...
Christmas Special

Christmas Special

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Send a text It’s our Christmas Special and Producer Arin has a mic and is in charge! This episode is nothing like our other episodes, with minimal discussion about social work. However, it does have a Christmas quiz and a Christmassy(ish) story read by Hannah, Matt and Producer Arin. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback, suggestions, or ideas for future topics. Stay connected ...
Send a text It’s a The Relational Social Work Podcast first, with this episode being recorded in a broom cupboard. Hannah is joined by Jerome Harvey-Agyei, Co-Founder of The Tope Project and Youth Participation Lead at The Mayor of London’s Violence Reduction Unit. This episode explores the importance of love and human connection, the beauty which can come from pain, and how Jerome shares stories of love, rather than stories of suffering. Hannah is joined by Matt for the intro and reflections...
Send a text In this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Jade Barnett, co-founder, CEO and Director at Power2Prevail Community. This episode explores how Jade turned her care experienced activism into an idea to support care experienced young people in London, and how through working with The Care Leaders Fellowship helped her to turn this idea into reality. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and we...
Send a text This episode was recorded live from the Madlug Pop-Up Experience in Leeds as part of National Care Leavers Month. Hannah and Matt are joined by three incredible care leavers, Leigh, AJ and Scarlett, as well as Dave Linton (Founder and CEO of Madlug), Phoebe White (Policy and Influencing Manager, National Youth Advocacy Service), Danny Hooper (Life Long Links Co-Ordinator, Coventry City Council), Beth Vecchione (Founder and CEO of Care to Dance) and Luke Rodgers (Founder and CEO of...
Send a text In this episode Matt is joined by Rachael Wardell, President of the Associate of Directors of Children’s Services (ADCS), to discuss what has happened during her presidency. The discussion includes progress with the social care reforms, child poverty, how the ADCS and its members have responded to unrest across the country and Rachael’s hopes for the remainder of her term. Hannah joins Matt for the intro and reflections. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcas...
Send a text In this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Mary Jackson, Chief Executive at Frontline. This episode explores what Frontline does as a charitable organisation, through the qualifying programme and support for newly qualified social workers; leadership programmes; and supporting innovation. Conversations delve into to the strengths of Frontline’s programmes, as well as some of the criticisms, the importance of systemic thinking in social work and how a hub model can support this....
Send a text This week Hannah and Matt are not only joined by guests, Sophie Clarke, Managing Director at We Are Juno, Joanne Smith, Interim Head of Commissioning at Liverpool City Council Children and Young People Services, and Scott Darragh, Chief Executive at Social Adventures, but also have a guest host, Shoayb Khalifa, Operational Lead for Placements and Commissioning at Coventry City Council. This episode explores the rising cost of residential care, and the marketisation of the public s...
Send a text In this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Jonny Hoyle, care experienced social worker, and Group Manager for Leaving Care at North Yorkshire Council. This episode explores Jonny’s personal and professional experience, from being in care to working for the council, and how AI has supported social work practice in North Yorkshire. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome you...
Send a text In this episode, Hannah and Matt are joined by Katia Parent who is a social worker who works for the Prison Advice and Care Trust. This episode explores the pilot that Katia has been a part of, having social workers in women's prisons, to support mothers separated from their children, and the importance of relationships in this work. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your fee...
Send a text In this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Lorna Stabler, Research Fellow at CASCADE(Children’s Social Care Research and Development Centre). This episode explores Lorna’s personal and professional experience of kinship care, from her own experience as a kinship carer, and her research and wider research into this area. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to learn what you thought of the episode and welcome your feedback...
Send a text In this episode Matt and Hannah are joined by Nadia, Fran and Eugene, social workers and co-founders of Social Matters. This episode explores diversity, inclusion and belonging, particularly focussing on anti-racist practice and allyship; emphasising the importance of relationships and hope, and considering the role of social work at a time when there is so much division across the UK. Thank you for listening to The Relational Social Work Podcast. We are always interested to...
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