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Join host Curtis Chang and his friends as they follow Jesus and make sense of the world. With expertise, thoughtfulness, and humor, they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. Good Faith is produced by Redeeming Babel. Good Faith is ranked in the top .5 percent of all podcasts.
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From C.S. Lewis to Luka Dončić: Celebrating Joy in Unexpected Places   On this Christmas-season Good Faith episode, host Curtis Chang welcomes back "founding friend" David French to showcase how he can give thanks in all circumstances even amid a depressing news cycle. Through five surprising "gratitudes" (from Dune and Luka Dončić to family healing and C.S. Lewis), the conversation offers a timely guide to cultivating Christian joy, resilience, and hope in anxious times. French shares why his hope isn't rooted in a "five-point plan," but in the character of God and the "light and high beauty" that can break through dark moments—even illustrated by a powerful story of forgiveness after a Michigan church shooting.   (00:02:22) - Living with Tension: Blessings and Challenges (00:05:11) - Practicing Cheerfulness and Gratitude (00:08:52) - #5: Anticipating Dune Part Three & the importance of joy and fun. (00:18:22) - #4: Luka Doncic & appreciating greatness (00:26:50) - Transcendence, and the Need for Beauty in dark times. (00:27:55) - #3: Michigan Mormons' Response to Tragedy  (00:29:22) - The Power of Redemptive Acts  (00:33:35) - #2: Gratitude for his wife & granddaughter's health after medical challenges. (00:40:32) - #1: The Enduring Comfort of C.S. Lewis  (00:49:44) - The necessity of hope and joy, especially for young people.     Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the Good Faith podcast today!   Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards   Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief Take our Climate Survey     Mentioned In This Episode: Trailer: Dune Part Three Trailer: Dune Part One Trailer: Dune Part Two Highlights: Luka Doncic Read/Watch: Victims raise money for Michigan Church shooter's family   Books Mentioned by C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity The Last Battle The Great Divorce The Screwtape Letters Space Trilogy Till We Have Faces     More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads     Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  
What Do Henry Wadsworth Longfellow and Johnny Cash Have in Common?   Singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken joins Good Faith for a short bonus episode on the Christmas songs that can hold joy and sorrow at the same time. Sandra explores the story behind "I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day"—from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's grief to its enduring promise of peace in the midst of hardship. She also reflects on the influence of Johnny Cash's version and shares what it was like recording the song with Cindy Morgan. A warm, reflective listen for anyone heading into the season with hope and heaviness.   Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the Good Faith podcast today!   Mentioned In This Episode: Sandra McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day Sandra McCracken's single I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day Johnny Cash's The Christmas Spirit album Johnny Cash's single I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day Leonard Cohen's Anthem More From Sandra McCracken: Sandra McCracken's website Sandra's first Christmas album Sandra McCracken Christmas (2020)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook     The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
Can We Welcome the Stranger and Uphold the Law?   How should Christians think about immigration, the border crisis, and refugees—without getting trapped in partisan talking points? In this Good Faith podcast episode, host Curtis Chang sits down with Jennie Murray, president of the National Immigration Forum, to explore a faith-informed approach to U.S. immigration policy. They explore why the U.S. immigration system is so broken and confusing, the tension between compassion and the rule of law, how immigration affects jobs, labor shortages, and the economy, all while debunking myths about crime, fentanyl, and "open borders." (02:34) - Christian first or American first? Identity and immigration (06:01) - Compassion vs rule of law? (10:36) - How the immigration system is failing (14:09) - What really drives migration (18:21) - Labor, talent, and the U.S. economy (22:12) - Who counts as "illegal" or "undocumented"? (31:27) - Law, grace, and the gospel (37:34) - Crime, fentanyl, and fear-based narratives (48:03) - What ordinary Christians can do   Episode Guide for Personal and Group Study   Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards   Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief   Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the Good Faith podcast today! Take our Climate Survey     Mentioned In This Episode: TRAC: Immigration numbers and research  Refugee resettlement ceilings and numbers caps: Migration Policy Institute  A Turning Point for the Unauthorized Immigrant Population in the United States  Gallup Polling: Surge in U.S. Concern About Immigration Has Abated Pew Research Research: Majority of Americans to say immigrants strengthen the U.S. Pew Research: U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Total Dips to Lowest Level in a Decade Lifeway/World Relief Research Study: Evangelical Views on Immigration Study Pew Research: Support for Legal Status for Immigrants Illegally Ariving as Children Bill Summary: Dream Act of 2025 CATO Institute: 72% Believe Immigrants Enter the U.S. for Jobs & to Improve Their Lives   Referenced Scripture: Leviticus 19:34 (ESV) - The foreigner residing among you Matthew 25:35-36 (ESV) - Treatment of the stranger   International Comparison Stories: Reuters, Nov 2022: Canada's immigration targets to fill workforce gaps/support economic growth DW News, June 2023: Germany aims to make it easier for non-nationals to work there The Guardian, April 2023): Australia targets skilled migrants to fill critical job vacancies BBC News, Dec 2023): "The UK government is responding to workforce shortages by expanding visa opportunities for foreign workers   More From Jennie Murray and National Immigration Forum: More about Jennie Murray Learn more about National Immigration Forum Engage with Resources from National Immigration Forum   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook     The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
Christianity Isn't a Nation and The Church Isn't a National Movement   Host Curtis Chang sits down with N.T. Wright to explore the explosive themes of Ephesians, including what the Bible really says about the mission of the church—not as a lifeboat escaping to heaven, but a "small working model of new creation"—a multiethnic, multicultural community that stands against the powers and principalities of our age through truth, unity, and love. Wright discusses the church's mission in a divided world, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They address modern challenges such as misunderstandings of spiritual warfare, the communal nature of the armor of God, why the "belt of truth" matters today, and how Ephesians calls the church to resist counterfeit visions of power.   (06:12) - Has NT Wright changed his mind about the Biblical truths? (12:15) - What is Wright's "small working model of new creation"? (16:15) - The new community of Jesus Christ (22:51) - The problem of Christian nationalism  (28:16) - The Challenge of Christian Multiculturalism (29:39) - The Church's Role in Spiritual Warfare (36:56) - Is the Armor of God a communal thing? (43:05) - The biblical view of men and women is not antiquated (49:19) - A final word of encouragement from Ephesians   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@goodfaith.org   Donate to Good Faith   Mentioned In This Episode: N.T. Wright's The Vision of Ephesians: The Task of the Church and the Glory of God  N.T. Wright's forthcoming God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal Lecture: How Paul Invented Christian Theology (N.T. Wright lecture)  What are the Five Elements of Christian Nationalism? Learn more: Desmond Tutu and the triumph against Apartheid  Watch: How Artistotle and the Greek philosophers influenced the idea of a soul (video) Read: How a Man Named Lesslie Changed the Way I Think   Scriptural Thoughts on Rest: Genesis 1-2 (ESV) - Male & female relationships and creation theology Ephesians 1:1-14 (ESV) - Revealing who Jesus is to the world Ephesians 2:10 (ESV) - Humankind's purpose Ephesians 6:10-20 (ESV) - The full armor of God 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 (ESV) -The guarantee of the resurrection Revelation 21-22 (ESV) - Vision of new creation   More From N.T. Wright: N.T. Wright Online N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements N.T. wright's books (Amazon)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.
Can Sabbath Rest Be a Circuit Breaker for Idolatry?   Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith podcast regular Andy Crouch explore how practicing true Sabbath rest can help Christians break free from burnout, technology overload, and the constant pressure to produce. Andy explains the biblical vision of Sabbath, the difference between rest and leisure, and why so many people feel enslaved to email, phones, and digital noise. They offer practical tools for burnout recovery, Sabbath rest practices, and Christian digital detox, helping listeners rediscover rhythms of rest, contemplation, and spiritual formation. If you're searching for guidance on how to practice Sabbath, how to disconnect from technology, or how to recover from burnout as a Christian, this conversation with Andy Crouch provides a hopeful path to real rest.   (02:24) - The Value of Rest Modeled in Creation (13:04) - The Cycle of Rest, Contemplation, & Creation in Modern Work (21:31) - Is Ceasing Labor Different Than Resting From It? (28:49) - Breaking Free from the Labor Involved in Leisure (32:18) - True Rest Requires Spiritual Practices (37:44) - How Can We Rediscovering Sabbath Rest Together?   Drawing from a previous conversation with Andy Crouch, this episode examines how Sabbath rest revitalizes the inner life.   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Abraham Joshua Heschel's The Sabbath: It's Meaning for Modern Man  Andy Crouch's The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place David Foster Wallace's A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again   Scriptural Thoughts on Rest: Genesis 1–3 (ESV) - Genesis and the Creation Story Exodus 20:8-11 (ESV) - The Sabbath commandment  Deuteronomy 5:12-15 (ESV) - Observance of the Sabbath Day   More From Andy Crouch: Interact with Andy's website Check out Andy's work at Praxis Read Andy's book: The Life We're Looking For Read Andy's book: The Tech-Wise Family   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
How Does Kathleen Norris Show Disability Shaping Love, Lament, and Christian Faith?   Bestselling writer Kathleen Norris joins host Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to talk about her new book, Rebecca Sue: A Sister's Reflections on Disability, Faith and Love. They share the story of Kathleen's disabled sister, Rebecca, and how her journey through perinatal hypoxia, bipolar disorder, anger, and finally gratitude reshaped their family's faith. This episode offers honest wisdom on caregiving, grief, and aging parents and siblings, plus ideas for making sense of a loved one's disability through letters and reflection. Curtis and Kathleen also explore how churches can better include people with disabilities who are "hidden in plain sight," and why love, lament, and telling the truth about our flaws are central to a life of faith.   (01:49) - What did disability mean in the Norris family? (04:00) - Discovering Disability (08:52) - The Connection Between Love and Lament (16:24) - Lessons Learned Caring For a Dying Husband (20:09) - The Complicated Journey Caregiving and Dying (29:00) - Admiring a Father's Determination (31:36) - Championing Disability Rights (37:27) - Tackling Disability Awareness in Community (41:56) - Are There Connections Between This Story and Norris' Other Books?   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Kathleen Norris' Rebecca Sue: A Sister's Reflection on Disability, Faith, and Love Listen to Amy Julia Becker (Good Faith episode 145) A Brief History of the Benedictine Order  Understanding the Holy Fool   More From Kathleen Norris: Kathleen Norris' The Cloister Walk Kathleen Norris' Dakota: A Spiritual Geography Kathleen Norris' Amazing Grace: A Vocabulary of Faith   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  
A Christian Case For Why Refugees Matter   Host Curtis Chang sits down with Myal Greene, President & CEO of World Relief, to discuss the global refugee crisis, U.S. immigration policy, and how the church can lead the way in offering hope, welcome, and advocacy. Greene explains what defines a refugee, why record numbers are displaced worldwide, and how faith communities—from the Vietnamese boatlift era to modern Good Neighbor Teams—have transformed lives through radical hospitality. Together, they unpack the biblical call to "welcome the stranger", explore how refugees strengthen churches, and share practical ways to get involved through initiatives like World Relief's Churches of Welcome.   (02:11) - What Is a Refugee? (08:31) - The U.S. Churches' Historical Role in Resettlement (14:22) - The Christian Case For Helping Refugees (23:26) - Christians Are Immigrants (29:20) - The Ramifications of Policy Changes (43:15) - A Final Word from Myal Greene   Episode Guide for Personal and Group Study   Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: 2025 Evangelical Views on Immigration Study (Lifeway Research) Notre Dame Study on the Economic Benefits of Refugees in America  Learn about Vietnamese Boat Crisis & Boat People  What is the Refugee Act of 1980  Facts about Afghan Special Immigrant Visas (SIVs)  Learn More about Evelyn Mangham  Learn more about National Association of Evangelicals (NAE)   Scripture Mentioned: Matthew 25:35-36 (ESV)  Leviticus 23:22 (ESV)  Luke 10:25–37; Matthew 25:34–40; James 1:27 (ESV) - The Good Samaritan   More From Myal Greene and World Relief: Learn more about World Relief Become a World Relief Volunteer Join World Relief's ​​Good Neighbor Teams Give to Open Doors (Organization collaborating with World Relief)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
Wrestling with Shakespeare, Faith, and the Limits of Technology   Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University—explore The Tempest by William Shakespeare and its timeless wisdom for our technology-driven world. Through Prospero's struggle with power, control, and love, they draw parallels between Shakespeare's "magic" and our modern dependence on digital tools. Wilson explains how the play invites us to surrender our illusions of control, embrace humility, and rediscover relationships grounded in grace. Curtis and Jessica's discussion touches on C.S. Lewis, Andy Crouch, and the spiritual discipline of wrestling with hard texts and ideas in an age of easy answers from ChatGPT.   (02:30) - Dependence Upon Technology as Magic (05:40) - What Do We Forget in Our Obsessions? (11:03) - The Change in Prospero (13:41) - Engaging With Challenging Texts (18:53) - The Temptation of AI (21:40) - Celebrating Good Faith Podcast Production   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: William Shakespeare's The Tempest (entire play) Andy Crouch's The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place Genesis 32:22-32 (ESV) - Jacob Wrestling with God or "the Angel" C.S. Lewis's The Abolition of Man (pdf) The Tempest Act V, Scene 1: "Prospero's Speech" John 1:1-14 (ESV) - Jesus as the Word or "logos" Hebrews 5:11-6:12 (ESV) - the metaphor of milk and solid food   More From Jessica Hooten Wilson: Jessica Hooten Wilson's website Explore Jessica's books HERE Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  
How Are Cultural Shifts Making Evangelical Trends Look Like Revival?   Good Faith "founding friend" David French joins Curtis Chang for a powerful conversation on revival, revolution, and the future of American Christianity. Together they explore whether today's supposed spiritual movements signal a genuine renewal of faith or a political realignment within evangelical culture. From Gen Z's shifting beliefs to the rise of MAGA Christianity, they unpack the tension between true repentance and political identity. David and Curtis offer fresh insight into how Christians can pursue authentic spiritual growth while navigating a deeply divided cultural landscape.   (02:58) - What is happening in American Christianity? (06:36) - It's Complicated: Mistaking Revolution For Revival  (09:35) - What Does Revival Look Like? (12:11) - Revival vs. Revolutionary Christianity (20:09) - Empathy and Struggling With Sin Together (29:11) - Religious and Political Realignment in America (39:45) - Religious Realignment in American Churches   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: David French's article Something Is Stirring in Christian America, and It's Making Me Nervous Barna Research: Young Adults Lead a Resurgence in Church Attendance Tim Keller's article 'Lord, Do It Again': Tim Keller on Revival (The Gospel Coalition) Tim Keller's message A Biblical Theology of Revival  Read Acts 2:14-47 (ESV) - Peter preaches from Joel and repentance breaks out Read Isaiah 6 (ESV) - Isaiah's call and commission George Whitefield and the 1727 The Great Awakening What was the Azusa Street Revival? (Christian Union America) Kevin Brown's article What the Asbury Revival Taught Me About Gen Z (Christianity Today) What is Seven Mountain Dominionism? What is Catholic Integralism? Differing Opinions: Is Empathy A Sin? Some Conservative Christians Argue It Can Be (PBS) Rodney Stark The Rise of Christianity: A Sociologist Reconsiders History (PBS) Read Romans 5:1-11 (ESV) - Peace with God through faith  Listen: Good Faith episode 30 Russell Moore discusses why "crazy as a church growth strategy" is not the way of Jesus Ryan Burge: What About White Evangelicals Who Aren't Conservative?   More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
Can We Move From Fear to a Holy Indifference That Teaches Peace and Presence? Seattle-based writer Sara Billups joins host Curtis Chang to explore how faith, mental health, and spiritual practices can help calm anxiety in our bodies, families, churches, and politics. Drawing from her book Nervous Systems (available November 4, 2025), Sara shares practical ways to find peace, emotional balance, and spiritual resilience amid today's chaos. Together, Curtis and Sara discuss how understanding our stories and grounding in faith can help us live with calm and clarity in an anxious culture.   (02:23) - Navigating Anxiety in Uncertain Times (04:35) - Understanding Anxiety Across Generations (18:58) - Navigating Anxiety With Holy Indifference (26:00) - Anxiety in Churches, Politics, and Systems (28:15) - Churches Cultivating Non-Anxious Presence (33:43) - Finding a Spiritual Home in Crisis (41:20) - Sara's Message a Generation of Anxious Young Adults   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Sara Billups' Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics What is Epigenetics? (Cleveland Clinic) Curt Thompson discusses generational trauma and epigenetics (episode of Curt's podcast) Ignatius' Spiritual Exercises  St. Teresa of Lisieux's Divine Office The story behind the hymn It Is Well With My Soul Frederick Buechner describes his daughter's anorexia and praying Psalm 131 (video) Frederick Buechner's Telling Secrets Matthew 26:36-46 (ESV) Jesus prays in Gethsemane Edwin Friedman's A Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix Edwin Friedman's Six Measures of Effective Leadership (Jack Shitima's Non-Anxious Leader blog) Mark Sayers's A Non-Anxious Presence: How a Changing and Complex World will Create a Remnant of Renewed Christian Leaders The ignatian concept of Indifference Thomas McKenzie's The Anglican Way: A Guidebook Tim Keller's The Church in the City (Series of audio messages) Christianity Today's The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill (podcast) 22 Explore Grace Church Seattle Good Faith episode featuring Paco Amador of Little Village in Chicago   More from Sara Billups: Sara Billups' Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find the Way Home Sara Billups' Bitter Scroll (substack) Sara Billups' That's the Spirit podcast (with Morgan Page)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter  
What Does Faith Demand in an Age of ICE Raids?   In this first episode in an on-going series on immigration in America, host Curtis Chang talks with Pastor Luis "Paco" Amador about the struggles of Chicago's immigrant communities, especially in Little Village, where faith meets fear amid ongoing ICE raids. Pastor Amador shares stories of family separation, resilience, and gospel hope, revealing how churches stand as places of strength and compassion. The episode calls for biblical justice and unity within the church in the face of division and fear.   (03:15) - Immigration and Community in Chicago (05:49) - Impact of Immigration Raids on Community (12:54) - Immigration Rights Issues (15:35) - Community Support (17:38) - How Does the Bible Speak To the Immigrant's Experience? (19:37) - Migrants and Persecution (27:00) - A Faith Revival in Immigrant Communities (34:00) - Immigration Reform and Order (39:10) - Migrants Fleeing Collapsing Dictatorships   Episode Guide for Personal and Group Study Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Images of ICE raids in Little Village, Chicago (the month of October)  Matthew 5:1-12 (ESV) The Beatitudes Acts 8:1-4 (ESV) The Scattering of the Church Genesis 12 (ESV) The Call of Abraham Justo L. Gonzalez's The Story of Christianity, Volume 1: The Early Church to the Dawn of the Reformation Justo L. Gonzalez's The Story of Christianity, Vol. 2: The Reformation to the Present Day More from Paco Amador Paco Amador: A Church With a Heart for Immigrants Little Village: New Life Community Church Immigrants Plant Churches and Revitalize a Neighborhood in Chicago (substack article)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
How Thin Is the Line Between Patriotism and Nationalism?   Curtis Chang and David French take a hard look at the rise of Christian nationalism and its growing influence on American faith and politics. They unpack how this ideology blurs the line between patriotism and nationalism, reshaping evangelical identity and challenging both biblical and constitutional values. Drawing from history and theology—from January 6th to modern evangelical movements—they reveal how love of country can be redeemed from the distortions of fear and power. Listeners are invited to reflect on what true patriotism looks like for followers of Jesus in a divided America.   (02:30) - Understanding Christian Nationalism in America (11:03) - Defining Christian Nationalism in America (17:37) - The Emotional Identity of Lived Out Christian Nationalism (26:17) - Challenging American Identity and History (33:43) - America's Story and a Universal "us"? (36:30) - The Competing Stories of 1619 and 1776 (44:18) - C.S. Lewis on Patriotism and Nationalism (48:56) - American Identity, Patriotism, and Protecting Others (55:45) - Security About the Truth of America   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry's Taking America Back For God Thomas Kidd's Christian Nationalism vs. Christian Patriotism (article) How Many Americans Are Christian Nationalists? (article & date) David French: What Is Christian Nationalism, Exactly? (2/25/24) The Role of The New Apostolic Reformation A Critique of the Seven Mountain Mandate Derek Bell's Interest Convergence and the Permanence of Racism: A Reflection on Resistance Matt Yglesias's Great Awakening C.S. Lewis on Love of Country and Love of God C.S. Lewis on Love of Country and Love of God C.S. Lewis on Patriotism   More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
Join Curtis Chang, host of the Good Faith Podcast, along with co-leaders Chuck Mingo, Sarah Billups, Russell Moore, Kaitlyn Schiess, and Mark Turman, as they move listeners through a series of guided prayers based on the Beatitudes. This pastoral effort invites the audience to recalibrate their spiritual focus and pray for the church, our country, and one another. Beginning with "Blessed are the poor in spirit" and culminating in rejoicing and gladness, this time of reflection and prayer encourages all-comers to renew their hope, reclaim peace, and follow Christ faithfully in a divided world.   (01:05) - Welcome from Curtis Chang (03:47) - Centering Silence (04:20) - Blessed Are the Poor In Spirit: Curtis Chang (09:50) - Blessed Are Those Who Mourn (13:39) - Blessed Are the Meek: Chuck Mingo (14:58) - Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst For Righteousness:Sara Billups (16:49) - Blessed Are the Merciful: Sara Billups (17:59) - Prayer For the Church Universal From the Book of Common Prayer: Sara Billups (19:45) - Blessed Are the Pure in Heart: Russell Moore (22:14) - Blessed Are the Peacemakers: Russell Moore (24:08) - Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted: Kaitlyn Schiess (27:35) - Prayers For the Needs of God's Work: Kaitlyn Schiess (28:39) - Rejoice and Be Glad: Mark Turman (32:12) - Hope and Joy in Christ: Mark Turman   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Scriptures Referenced: Matthew 5: 1-12 (ESV)  Psalm 139:23-24 (ESV) Amos 5 (ESV)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
Can Our Enemies Teach Us Anything?   A.J. Swoboda joins the Good Faith podcast to unpack how cultivating a teachable spirit and practicing true discipleship means learning from enemies, strangers, and neighbors in a divided world. He emphasizes how to recognize real experts amid alternate facts and subjective "truths," and tells how the countercultural practice of learning from anyone—regardless of agreement—fosters humility, empathy, and connection, insights drawn from his book A Teachable Spirit.   (03:11) - Cultivating a Teachable Spirit (09:38) - Reverse Prophecy and Calling Out Your Tribe (17:55) - Experts & Expertise (22:09) - Sola Scriptura vs. "Solo" Scriptura (23:27) - Jesus Would Be the Best At Anything (32:04) - Replacing Our Neighbors With Technology (45:03) - Learning From Enemies   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: A.J. Swoboda's A Teachable Spirit How John Calvin understood the Ten Commandments Erving Goffman's The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life (pdf) More about Fuller Seminary's John Goldengay Roger Kneebone: The Path To Expertise and Why Experts Matter Understanding Erving Goffman's concept of Civil Inattention Dallas Willard's sermon: The Genius of Jesus, part 1 (video) Dallas Willard's Jesus the Logician (article) How Should Pastors Respond to Charlie Kirk's Assassination? (article) Scriptures Referenced: The Sermon on the Mount: Matthew 5-7 (ESV) Mark 12:30-31 (ESV) Deuteronomy 10 (ESV) Hebrews 13:2 (ESV)   More From A.J. Swoboda: A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta's The Slow Theology Podcast   A.J. Swoboda's Low Level Theology Substack A.J. Swoboda's The Dusty Ones: Why Wandering Deepens Your Faith  Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.
How Is Radicalization A Risk in Online Spaces?   Host Curtis Chang sits down with Elizabeth Neumann, former DHS counterterrorism leader, to explore the rise of political violence in our digital world. From Charlie Kirk's assassination to the role of memes, online gaming, and extremist recruitment, they uncover how radicalization thrives—and where faith communities, government, and citizens can step in to push back against hate and defend freedom.   (01:54) - Understanding and Preventing Political Violence (08:22) - The Broader Context of Rising Violence (12:03) - Addressing Root Causes of Mass Violence (21:29) - Online Gaming and Extremism Concerns (27:15) - Rating the Trump Administration's Response to the Crisis (34:09) - Government Response to Political Violence (42:34) - Jesus Followers and the Threat of Violence     Register for the Good Faith live prayer event HERE   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Recommended Resource: Mass Violence Prevention An Independent article: The sinister role of 'black-pilling' in the murder of Charlie Kirk Elizabeth Newman's book Kingdom of Rage From the U.N.:Examining the Intersection Between Gaming and Violent Extremism (pdf) Learn about: The Calm Network (764) (the United States Attorney's Office District of Columbia) Learn how Violent Online Networks Target Vulnerable and Underage Populations   More From Elizabeth Neumann: Check out Elizebeth Neumann's website Elizabeth Neumann's archived DHS biography   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  
What Does Charlie Kirk's Murder Reveal About Extremism and Division?   Host Curtis Chang sits down with Good Faith "founding friend" and New York Times writer David French to reflect on the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk and what it reveals about the rise of political violence in America. Together, they explore how formative experiences have shaped Baby Boomers and Gen Z differently, the role of influencers versus institutions, and the dangers of extremism across the political spectrum. With compassion for the personal tragedy at the center of this event, they also highlight the church's role on the path toward healing and rebuilding trust in a deeply divided nation.   Register for the Good Faith live prayer event HERE   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Poll Results: Is Political Violence Ever Justified? Why Do So Many Young Americans Justify Political Violence? (internal WSJ generational poll %s) How recent political violence in the U.S. fits into 'a long, dark history' (Politifact/PBS) Political violence in polarized U.S. at its worst since 1970s (Reuters, 2023) Spencer Cox's calls for civility spark introspection, and some GOP backlash Utah Gov. Spencer Cox decries 'cancer' of social media and its 'direct role' in every assassination over past 5 years  Pope Leo criticizes surge of nationalist political movements in the world (video)   David French on Charlie Kirk's Murder and Political Violence: David French: There Are Monsters in Your Midst, Too David French: If We Keep This Up, Charlie Kirk Will Not Be the Last to Die Roundtable discussion, including David French: The 'Fork in the Road' After Charlie Kirk's Death David French's Divided We Fall   More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  
Modern Challenges of Self-Worth and Lies   Host Curtis Chang talks with author and women's ministry leader Emily Wilson about faith, motherhood, and battling the lies of shame and self-hatred. Drawing from C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters and her new book Sincerely, Stoneheart, Emily explores how screens, productivity pressures, and cultural messages distort our identity—and how the truth of God's love can set us free.   (00:01) - Reimagining CS Lewis for Modern Times (04:54) - Women and Good vs. Evil (08:27) - Women and Men's Unique Vulnerabilities to Evil (13:03) - Did C.S. Lewis Miss Something About Women? (14:53) - C.S. Lewis and Friendship (19:08) - Unveiling Truths About Motherhood and Screens (28:01) - The Lie of Productivity   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Emily Wilson's Sincerely Stoneheart  Learn more about C.S. Lewis (C.S. Lewis Institute) The Background surrounding C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters  More about Lewis's friendships and the Inklings  Listen to Good Faith Episode 160 - Resetting Your Faith: Exploring the Strength of Biblical Mothers with Tara Edelschick and Kathy Tuan-MacLea authors of Moms at the Well  NIH's Study on depression, screen time, and women (abstract) More from Emily Wilson: Emily Wilson's Website  Find Emily Wilson on Instagram Watch Emily Wilson on YouTube  Find Emily Wilson on Facebook   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter
Why Is Your Inner Life So Complicated?   Host Curtis Chang and therapist Dr. Alison Cook connect dive into conversation about the intersection of Christian faith, psychology, and emotional health. Together they explore how overcoming shame, naming emotions, and quieting one's inner critic can lead to spiritual growth and deeper empathy. Drawing on the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model, Dr. Cook provides tools to manage the competing voices within.   (00:01) - Exploring Inner and Outer Complexity (03:45) - Compassionate Curiosity and Inner Complexity (17:16) - Unlocking Inner Complexity Through Exploration (22:28) - Navigating the Inner Soul Complexity (33:48) - Cultivating Inner Harmony for Leadership (37:45) - Journey of Inner Exploration   Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode provides ideas about emotional health and inner well being.   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Learn more about Internal Family Systems (IFS) Model Learn more about Dr. Richard Schwartz  Dr. Anna Lembke's Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence Read Isaiah 6:5 ESV (and related scriptures) Henry Nouwen: "Finding Our Sacred Center" (video, 1994) Explaining the True Therapy in 'Inside Out' (video) Explore the 5 Things Inside Out 2 Got Right about IFS Therapy Read about The Doctrine of the Trinity: No Christianity Without It   More from Dr. Alison Cook: Explore Dr. Cook's website Listen to Dr. Cook's podcast: The Best of You Read Dr. Cook's book The Best of You: Break Free from Painful Patterns, Mend Your Past, and Discover Your True Self in God Read Dr. Cook's book I Shouldn't Feel This Way: Name What's Hard, Tame Your Guilt, and Transform Self-Sabotage into Brave Action   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter
We Can Find Common Ground Even in Washington, D.C. Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories invites listeners to hear how ordinary people are living out extraordinary faith in complex times. In this episode, Daniel, a pastor in Reston, Virginia, reflects on 23 years of ministry near Washington D.C., where politics and faith are in constant conversation. Inspired to bring the community – inside and outside of his church – together through civic discourse, he championed an initiative to create spaces for meal sharing and meaningful dialogue, creating curiosity and seeking unity across political lines. Daniel's story shows how one pastor can change the way we do church to cultivate reconciliation, hope, and community in the most polarized of towns. Send your Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org
From Jeffrey Epstein to QAnon, Why Do Conspiracies Thrive in Churches?   The Atlantic's Pete Wehner, Christianity Today's Emily Belz, and host Curtis Chang dive into QAnon, conspiracy theories, and the MAGA movement's influence on American politics, culture, and the church. From Donald Trump's messianic image to the shadows of Jeffrey Epstein, they reveal why conspiracies thrive in times of distrust—and how faith communities can fight back with truth and resilience.   (01:58) - Understanding the QAnon Conspiracy Movement (04:10) - The Impact of QAnon Beliefs (10:55) - The Role of Jeffrey Epstein's Death (17:13) - Christian Vulnerability to Conspiracy Theories (25:13) - The History of Christianity and Conspiracies (30:14) - The Grip of Trump on MAGA (40:36) - Challenges Facing Church Leadership Today     Send Campfire Stories to: info@redeemingbabel.org   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Emily Belz: How QAnon Lives On Under Trump 2.0 Pete Wehner: Trump Discovers MAGA Has No 'Off' Switch Wired: All The Times Kash Patel Promoted QAnon FOX News: AG Pam Bondi on Epstein files: 'The public has a right to know' (March 3) Politico: Outraged Trump supporters not placated by DOJ's actions on Epstein New York Times: Trump Embraces Conspiracy Theories He Only Winked at Before Life Way Research: 50% of U.S. Protestant Pastors Hear Conspiracy Theories in Church American Enterprise Institute: Findings from the January 2021 American Perspectives Survey Nicholas Carr's The Shallows More about Historical Antisemetic Conspiracies: Blood Libel More about William Miller & the Millerites   More from Emily Belz & Pete Wehner: Emily Belz's article at Christianity Today Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter
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Julie Cembala

I love the TRUTH being told here!

Aug 22nd
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Robyn Rodman

gun fetishizers are the reason we don't have good information about gun violence and gun control.

Jul 25th
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Tim Dall

I love David's analytical and linear thinking but do have a few questions regarding some of the logic presented here. I agree that comparison by country of gun statistics requires nuanced thinking, however his comparison of US to South and Central American countries seems to disregard at least one key element - these comparisons should be done on a wealth adjusted basis. I also understand that correlation isn't causation, but, in some areas regarding gun violence, it may be a distinction without a difference. I don't know that the argument that no gun control measures have demonstrated positive results holds up when analyzing the 10-year ban on AR-15s. My understanding is that immediately after the ban was implemented, deaths attributable to that type of weapon declined and, furthermore, the sunsetting of the law coincided with a steep increase. I think that is worthy of further examination.

Jun 10th
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Eric Carman

Thank you for the courage and faith to bring this to light, and for putting it, or keeping it in the gospel context. Some of Christ's most damning words were for those who offend little children. On the other hand, his most tender and exalting words for children and for the repentant sinner. How we treat one another is a very personal matter for him. Through his sacrifice for us, he alone can rightfully say, "inasmuch as ye have done it unto one (even one!) of the least of these... ye have done it unto me."

Jun 2nd
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Corey Nathan

Great conversations, pertinent topics, thoughtful hosts. Really appreciating it.

Dec 18th
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