Money School Podcast

Most investors never question the hierarchy they're operating in. They borrow money, take on operational risk, manage tenants, absorb volatility, and send a large portion of every payment upstream to the lender.  If something breaks, if a tenant stops paying, if the market turns—the obligation to the bank doesn't change.  This is the Mr. Burns model: the banks sit at the top of the building collecting checks, while everyone else does the work below. The slow flip model flips that hierarchy entirely. Instead of rehabbing properties or betting on appreciation, the investor becomes the lender. Short-term private money is used to acquire low-dollar properties, then paid off quickly through long-term owner financing.  For the first few years, the deal feels tight. Cash flow is modest. But once the private capital is gone, the asset is owned free and clear—and the payments keep coming for decades. No leverage. No refinancing risk. No dependency on market timing. What makes this approach powerful isn't just the math, though the math is staggering. It's the positioning. Ultra-affordable housing behaves differently from traditional rentals. Demand doesn't disappear in downturns. People can always move down in price—but there's a floor they can't go below. And by structuring the deal as the bank, the investor removes themselves from the operational chaos that destroys so many otherwise "good" deals. In this episode, we sit down with Scott, a real estate investor who's been in the game since the 1990s, got crushed in the 2008 collapse, and rebuilt with a model explicitly designed to survive the next downturn.  We talk about why slow flips aren't about patience for patience's sake, how amortization quietly creates generational cash flow, and why the investors who win long term are usually the ones willing to give up speed early in exchange for control later. About Our Guest  Scott Jelinek is an entrepreneur, coach, full-time real estate investor, and author of The Art of the Slow Flip. He has been investing in real estate since 1994 and has completed well over six hundred deals, continuing to be a leader in the industry. He has owned and operated a wide variety of businesses, from tanning salons to hot dog shops--all while buying, selling, and renting properties. Today, Scott uses his knowledge and experience to coach other real estate investors. Over 15 years, Scott built a rental portfolio of more than 100 properties. On paper, it looked like success. In reality, it was constant tenant issues, mounting repairs, and growing leverage. By 2008, he was $1.3 million in debt and ultimately lost more than 55 properties to foreclosure. That experience forced a hard reset and led him to abandon traditional rentals in favor of what he later named the Slow Flip model: selling low-cost homes on terms and holding the paper. Since then, Scott has completed hundreds of slow flips, building long-term cash flow without tenants, repairs, or property management, and now focuses on helping other investors escape the operational grind of real estate. To learn more or buy the book, go to https://www.slowflip.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.    Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download).   Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.    

One of the biggest mistakes in personal finance is how quickly conversations turn into either/or debates. Invest or insure, trust the market, or play defense. Something is a scam, or it's the answer. The problem is, real financial progress rarely comes from choosing sides. It comes from using the right tools together instead of pretending one tool should do everything. This shows up clearly in the way people talk about retirement plans. People have strong opinions about 401(k)s, especially the idea that the match is a scam. But that argument falls apart once you actually slow down and look at how it works. That idea carries into the way people think about insurance. Insurance isn't an investment, and treating it like one creates bad expectations on both sides. But dismissing it because it's not an investment misses what it's actually designed to do. The more interesting question isn't "what's the return," but "what role does this play in the system?" Being dogmatic about any tool, whether it's a 401(k), insurance, or the market, usually leads to worse outcomes. In this episode, the author of The And Asset and founder of BetterWealth, Caleb Guilliams, returns. We dig into the idea of giving your dollars more than one job, how money can be safe and accessible at the same time, and boring on the surface, but incredibly useful when integrated correctly.  Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Why financial labels block better decisions We don't reject strategies because they fail; we reject them because of what they're called. How does labeling something "insurance," "investment," or "scam" stop you from seeing its true value? Why value matters more than rates of return Cost only feels expensive when the value isn't clear. What happens when you stop asking "what does this pay?" and start asking "how many jobs does my money do at once?" Changing your mind is a sign of financial maturity Rigid beliefs feel safe, but they often lead to bad advice. Why is the willingness to evolve a marker of credibility, not weakness? How AI will quietly replace most financial advice models What will happen when software can analyze, design, and optimize financial decisions faster and more accurately than most humans ever could?   About the Guest Caleb Guilliams is the author of "The and Asset", a podcaster, investor, speaker, and the founder and CEO of Better Wealth Solutions, a company committed to showing people how to be more efficient and control their money today while maximizing their future wealth potential. BetterWealth is a company that is fascinated with the idea of ordinary people being able to achieve extraordinary wealth. Caleb and his team have discovered proven strategies & principles that can empower anyone to create & protect real wealth. For more information, go to https://betterwealth.com/. Go to https://thewholelifesummit.com/2026  to learn more about the Summit and buy the book at https://betterwealth.com/bookstore.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Get Your FREE Copy Of 'The Private Money Guide'  and 'Mapping Out The Millionaire Mystery'.    Keep up with us every week on our FREE Live webinars for more conversations like this, and as a BONUS, get our newest mini-ebook instantly upon signing up! https://moneyschoolrei.com/wednesday-webinar (digital download).   Dive into money, mindset, and motivation videos on my YouTube Channel, and be sure to subscribe so you can be notified of our weekly LIVE streams. Find out about our next weekend workshop, and see what others are saying: https://www.moneyschooltraining.com/registration.    

Many people who work hard to build and protect their wealth assume that once they "make it," everything will finally feel good, secure, calm, and settled. But most people don't discover the truth until they're already successful: money doesn't quiet the fear. It often makes it louder. The pressure gets higher, and the decisions get heavier. The same stress, anxiety, and old beliefs they carried before wealth simply move with them into a larger life. That's the part no one prepares high earners for: the emotional weight that grows alongside the net worth. And it shows up everywhere: in the urge to hold money tighter, in the guilt that makes generosity feel risky, and in investment choices that look diversified but are actually fragmented and scattered. For more than 30 years, financial advisor Shannon Ryan has seen this up close. She's worked with founders, professionals, and ultra-wealthy families who have everything they once wanted, yet still feel overwhelmed, afraid, or ashamed of how they handle money. Not because they lack discipline or intelligence, but because their emotional relationship with money never evolved as quickly as their wealth did. In this conversation, Shannon and I explore the hidden side of wealth: why financial milestones don't automatically create peace, and what it actually takes to feel free when the numbers say you should already be there.   About the Guest Shannon Ryan is a Certified Financial Planner CFP®, behavioral finance advocate, speaker, and the author of the upcoming book Your Money Has Feelings. With over 30 years of experience guiding individuals and families, Shannon blends clear financial knowledge with a heart-centered approach to help people heal their money stories, transform their financial behavior, and build lasting confidence. She's been featured on Good Morning America, CNBC, and TEDx, and is known for making personal finance feel relatable, empowering, and deeply human. To work with Shannon, visit https://shannon-ryan.com/.  Buy her book, "Money Has Feelings," on Amazon.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

When people think about economic downturns, they usually assume the damage happens at the bottom. What rarely gets talked about is how many wealthy people lose everything — not because they didn't have assets, but because they trusted strategies that only worked when conditions stayed favorable. In this episode, I'm joined by Arthur Hood, an investor and entrepreneur who has built significant wealth across multiple market cycles and watched firsthand how high-net-worth individuals get taken out when liquidity tightens, exits disappear, and assumptions stop holding. We talk about why net worth doesn't equal safety, how paper wealth quietly evaporates when cash dries up, and the specific decisions that turn manageable situations into permanent losses.  Arthur explains why some asset classes keep working under pressure while others break, and why deals that depend on a clean refinance or exit are often the first to fail. Most importantly, we dig into the moves that allowed certain investors not just to survive the worst downturns, but to stay in control long enough to come out stronger on the other side.   About the Guest Arthur Hood is an experienced entrepreneur with a diverse portfolio of businesses spanning commercial real estate, entertainment, and hospitality. His venture Your Space America, focuses on the booming self-storage industry, one of the most resilient and high-performing asset classes in U.S. real estate. As Executive Vice President of the company, Arthur has overseen the development, construction, and ownership of large, climate-controlled self-storage facilities. These properties have become increasingly sought after by institutional investors due to their consistent performance across economic cycles. With self-storage offering an average annual return of 17.3% from 1994 to 2023, the industry has grown exponentially, driven by high demand from individuals, small businesses, and transitional populations. Your Space America is capitalizing on this growth by creating state-of-the-art facilities that cater to modern consumer needs, offering not only safe, secure storage but also a wide range of specialized services, including climate-controlled units for sensitive inventory and documents. In addition to his work in self-storage, Arthur is the owner of HV Entertainment LLC, which operates a growing portfolio of lounges and nightclubs across Texas, Georgia, Alabama, and Chicago. Furthermore, as Managing Member of HV Properties LLC, Arthur has been instrumental in acquiring, developing, and selling both commercial and residential real estate across the U.S. The company's real estate holdings span Florida, Texas, and Alabama, with a focus on value-added opportunities. From large-scale developments to residential projects, Arthur's leadership has helped expand the company's footprint and establish a strong presence in multiple high-demand markets. His expertise across these industries, combined with a strategic approach to growth, has positioned him as a significant player in both commercial real estate and the entertainment sectors. To learn more, go to https://arthurhood.com/ or send an email to info@arthurhood.com.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor with a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

For a lot of truckers, you can make great money hauling loads across the country, but it comes with a catch: the wheels have to keep turning for the money to keep coming in.  There's no automatic runway to financial freedom, no built-in exit strategy, just the quiet expectation that you'll drive until your body says you can't. And the obvious alternatives like owning trucks, hiring drivers, scaling through fleet operations aren't as simple or as stable as they sound.  Most truckers end up in a loop that looks a lot like the rest of America's financial reality: you earn, you spend, you start over. The numbers change, but the pattern doesn't. That's where infinite banking enters the conversation, not as a magic button, but as a system that gives truckers a way to make their money work even when they're not on the road.  But here's the part most people miss: Infinite banking only works if you do. Because there's a trap almost everyone falls into. You pay off your debts, you free up all that cash flow… and then you let it drift back into a traditional bank account, where it gets spent, swallowed, or forgotten.  And this same pattern shows up in another overlooked area of trucking: health. The lifestyle is notoriously hard on the body: long hours sitting, fast food at every stop, poor sleep, and constant stress. It's easy to wake up one day and realize your finances aren't the only thing stuck in a loop you never intended to be in. In this episode, I'm joined by Dexter Holiday, a longtime trucker who set out to rewrite both his financial and health trajectory. We explore what it looks like to step out of the financial and health cycles of trucking.  We unpack the strategy, the mistakes, the course corrections, and the mindset shifts required to make it all work in real life.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  Infinite Banking only works if you doMost people succeed in paying off debt but fail to recapture the payments and lose thousands in the process. How do you start thinking and acting like the bank? Debt freedom isn't the goal; debt management is Dexter cleared his debts, then unknowingly recreated them because the old habits were still in place. How do you stop yourself from sliding back into the same financial patterns you're trying to escape? Discipline creates wealth and health The same mindset that made Dexter financially stable helped him reverse diabetes, transform his energy, and rebuild his body. Why do money problems and health problems stem from the same root behaviors, and how do you change them? Fasting can undo what the road does to your body Trucking beats up your health, long hours sitting, constant snacking, and limited food options. How did fasting give Dexter's body the break it needed to repair itself and reverse the damage?   About the Guest Dexter Holiday is a longtime trucker who has spent years navigating the financial and physical demands of life on the road. After realizing the trucking industry offers income but not freedom, he began searching for a way to break the cycle of "earn, spend, reset." His journey through infinite banking, financial mistakes, course corrections, and eventually dramatic improvements in his health has made him a powerful example of what's possible when you commit to discipline, learning, and change. To learn more about the products that helped Dexter change his health, visit https://ufeelgreat.com/c/AKL589.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor with a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

When entrepreneurs think about selling a business, they picture a clean formula: EBITDA × multiple, a "strategic buyer," and a smooth six-month process that ends with a big wire hitting their account.  What almost no one pictures is the real complexity behind an exit. The psychology, the timing, the identity shift, the risk calculus, and the reality that most founders aren't just selling a business… they're handing over a lifetime's work to someone else. That's the part nobody warns you about. Most owners obsess over valuation, but the real danger is preparing too late, choosing the wrong advisors, or stepping into negotiations with a fantasy number another broker promised them to win the listing.  And the cost of that mistake? Years lost, deals collapsing, and owners discovering too late that they should have fixed their accounting, diversified their customer base, or tightened operations years before approaching the market. And underneath all of it is an even deeper truth: exits aren't just financial events; they're emotional ones. If you don't know what your life looks like after the wire hits, you're at risk of waking up with more money than you've ever had… and less purpose than you've ever felt.  In this episode, I'm joined by Gregory Kovsky, president of IBA, one of the oldest and largest business brokerage firms in the Pacific Northwest. We dig into why the market is hotter than ever, how valuation actually works, the unique pitfalls sellers don't see coming, and why the real exit planning starts long before you think you're ready.   Guest Bio Gregory Kovsky is the President and CEO of IBA (International Business Associates), the Pacific Northwest's oldest and largest business brokerage firm. Gregory has successfully negotiated the purchase and sale of over 300 privately held companies and family businesses in Washington, Oregon, Alaska, California, North Carolina, and Massachusetts since joining IBA as a mergers and acquisitions intermediary in 1994. He has also built a seven-figure, self-managing business across ten locations. He has successfully facilitated transactions involving manufacturing and distribution companies, industrial, marine, and automotive businesses, technology and software companies, and service, education, and retail businesses. A commercial real estate professional for over 30 years, Gregory commonly provides his clients with comprehensive representation in selling a business and the associated real estate. To learn more, visit https://ibainc.com/.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.  

When people think about wealth-building, they picture stock charts, IRR calculators, and "smart" portfolios engineered by advisors. What they never picture is a dentist quietly building long-term wealth through trees or using a whole life policy as the cheapest, most flexible source of capital in his business. That narrow view hides one of the most powerful truths about high-net-worth families today: the real wealth is built through boring, patient, predictable decisions that compound for decades… not the high-IQ investing most people obsess over. Most high earners are told to focus on returns. Jeff flips that equation. He focuses on building a life. He invests based on clarity, intention, and a long-term vision of what he wants his days to look like. Once you have that vision, the decisions become simple. You stop chasing the market and checking performance and start building something inevitable. In this episode, I sit down with dentist, entrepreneur, and long-term investor, Dr. Jeff Seibert. We unpack how he creates wealth by ignoring the noise, lowering his cost of capital, buying assets that grow while he sleeps, and designing his portfolio around the life he actually wants.    Guest Bio Dr. Jeff Seibert is a successful dentist and serial entrepreneur known for building highly profitable, well-run practices and using them as engines to fund private investments. What sets him apart is his refreshingly unique philosophy: he doesn't chase quick returns or market noise. He builds businesses and buys assets that compound quietly for decades, giving him freedom, control and long-term wealth without stress or speculation.   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.  

For most people, debt isn't a mistake; it's just life. The mortgage, the car loan, and the credit cards are what everyone does. Making the minimum payments feels normal, but that actually keeps people stuck. Millions of families are drowning in debt, and they're barely managing. They're working hard, keeping up with their bills, but almost every dollar they earn goes right back out in interest. They're not moving forward; they're treading water. The hard part is, they're not doing anything "wrong." They're doing what the system taught them to do: stay cash-poor while the banks collect. People proudly lock in their 30-year loans at "record low rates," convinced they've made the smartest financial move of their lives. But they don't realize that even at 3%, they're giving away hundreds of thousands in interest. That money could be building security, breathing room, and financial freedom.  What if the same dollars you're paying the bank every month could start working for you instead? What if your paycheck could reduce your interest, shorten your payoff timeline, and create new cash flow, without earning a cent more? In this episode, Velocity Banking expert Christy Vann and all-in-one loan expert Harrison George return. We unpack how the system keeps you cash poor, and the simple shifts that can set you free. From using tools like the all-in-one first-lien HELOC to applying velocity and Infinite Banking principles, you'll learn how to redirect your money and eliminate debt faster.    Things You'll Learn In This Episode  The minimum-payment illusion Most people think staying current on their bills means they're managing their money well. What if that belief is the very thing keeping them broke? The hidden cost of a low-rate mortgage A 3% mortgage feels like a win, until you realize it's still costing you hundreds of thousands in interest. How can you flip that money back in your favor? Turning interest into opportunity Every month, you hand a portion of your paycheck to the bank. What happens when you start redirecting that same money toward your own freedom instead? The smarter way to get debt-free You don't have to earn more or live with less to change your situation. How do systems like the all-in-one HELOC, Velocity Banking, and Infinite Banking make that possible?   Guest Bio   Harrison George is a highly accomplished Mortgage Loan Officer at CMG Financial in Meridian, Idaho, specializing in both purchase and refinance solutions. With a degree from Colorado Mesa University, he has earned recognition as a Top Producer by Scotsman Guide for his exceptional loan performance. Harrison is a thought leader in mortgage innovations, particularly the "All‑in‑One Loan" concept using LinkedIn and YouTube to educate homeowners, investors, and realtors on how to build equity faster and achieve greater financial flexibility. Dedicated to client success, Harrison emphasizes transparent communication and customized strategies, earning consistently positive feedback from satisfied borrowers.   Subscribe to The Harrison George Team on YouTube Find Harrison on LinkedIn @Harrison George Christy Vann is a Velocity Banking expert, coach, and founder of Vanntastic Finances. She is a financial educator teaching people how to become debt-free very, VERY quickly! Christy explores debt-relief options with individuals, so we all may live in total financial peace! For more information, head to https://vanntasticfinances.com/, subscribe to her YouTube channe,l and join her private Facebook group.    About Your Host   From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.   His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.   Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

When people hear "franchise", they immediately picture a drive-through window and a fryer in the back. That narrow view hides one of the most accessible and profitable paths to business ownership today: non-food franchising. We've been taught that entrepreneurship means starting from scratch: writing business plans, building systems, and hoping your idea sticks.  Franchising flips that equation. You're not reinventing the wheel; you're stepping into a proven system with training, marketing, and infrastructure already built. The best part?  You can own a business that runs without you being chained to it. The real secret is that most high-income professionals, doctors, executives, and even W-2 employees can buy or build semi-passive franchises that generate cash flow, deliver powerful tax advantages, and diversify their wealth far beyond the stock market.  And yet, most never explore it because they still think of "fast food." Why is buying a franchise a better path into business ownership? What are the lesser-known benefits you get from this model?  In this episode, I sit down with Jon Ostenson, founder of FranBridge Consulting and author of Non-Food Franchising. We unpack the world of franchises that don't involve burgers or coffee cups. We talk about how to identify the right concept, fund your investment, and leverage the new tax rules that make owning a franchise smarter than ever.  Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -The shortcut to entrepreneurship Most people think you need to invent something new to build wealth. What if the fastest path is owning a system that's already proven to work? -Semi-passive ownership, real results Some franchises thrive even when the owner isn't there daily. How do they do it, and what separates a true "executive model" from wishful thinking? -The hidden tax advantage of business ownership Business owners play by a completely different tax rulebook. How can franchising open those same doors for people still working a W-2 job? -The non-food franchise boom From home services to senior care, boring is the new profitable. Why are the most recession-resistant franchises the ones no one talks about?   Guest Bio Jon Ostenson is a Top 1% Franchise Consultant; 2 x Inc 5000 Founder; author of 'Non-Food Franchising', Forbes Contributor, and CEO of FranBridge Consulting. Specializing in the area of non-food franchising, he draws on his experience as both the president of an Inc. 500 franchise system and as a multi-brand franchisee in serving his consulting clients who are looking to explore business ownership opportunities. Jon helps clients understand all aspects of non-food franchising in the process of introducing them to opportunities from the over 600 high-growth brands that he represents. Before FranBridge, Jon was the President of ShelfGenie, a national franchise system with 200 locations. To learn more and get a free copy of his book 'Non-Food Franchising', go to http://franbridgeconsulting.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

From the outside, pro athletes look like they've made it; like they'll never have to worry about money again. Multi-million-dollar contracts, highlight reels, and luxury lifestyles suggest money will never be an issue.  But behind the scenes, most players are one injury, one bad decision, or one contract away from financial ruin. The truth is, the average NBA career lasts just 4 years. Taxes, agents, lavish spending, and poor planning chip away at earnings until the fortune is gone, and with no plan for life after the game, many athletes end up broke and starting over from scratch. But it doesn't have to be that way. With the right mindset and strategy, those same athletes can turn short-term income into long-term impact.  That's exactly what Rashad Jones-Jennings did, proving that reinvention is possible. He built a second career in real estate, transforming his hustle into $60 million of affordable housing developments that are reshaping communities. Most players never make that leap. They leave the game without financial literacy, without a plan, and without the discipline to turn short-term income into long-term security. The difference isn't the size of the contract, it's the ability to shift from consumer to builder, from spending money to multiplying it.  How did Rashad set himself up for real estate success? What's the secret to running a thriving development business that also makes a difference?   In this episode, we unpack the lessons from Rashad's journey, why most players lose even when they earn millions, and how affordable housing represents one of the most overlooked wealth-building opportunities in today's market.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -The athlete's money mythBig contracts shrink fast under taxes, fees, short careers, and lifestyle creep; most players aren't set for life; they're set for struggle. How do you design a plan that outlasts the spotlight? -Affordable housing, unfair edgeWhile developers chase luxury, demand is starving for well-built, smaller-footprint homes. How did Rashad pre-sell an entire tiny-home community before a single structure went up? -Operations over hypeSourcing materials creatively and knowing line-item costs turns vision into profit and investor trust. How do you become an excellent operator in real estate development?   Guest Bio Rashad Jones-Jennings is a retired NBA player, real estate developer, land flipper, and community builder. Transitioning from the world of professional basketball, Rashad is now dedicated to creating attainable housing solutions through the development of luxury tiny home communities. His focus is on providing innovative housing options in our ever-growing economy, creating living spaces anyone can call home. Rashad is passionate about sharing insights and fostering conversations around alternative housing. He also co-hosts a podcast called Big Man Tiny Homes, where he explores the nuances of tiny home living, urban development, and sports. To learn more, visit postprocapital.com.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Most investors don't fail because they pick the wrong stock or buy into the wrong trend. They fail because they never define success for themselves.  They chase returns without knowing what a win actually looks like. Without a clear target and purpose, investing becomes guesswork, and the chances of losing money are higher. Worse, they choose methods that look cool instead of ones they actually understand. They don't give themselves a hard out, so they hold too long or sell too soon. And often, they pick investment vehicles that only pay them in one way. That's where real estate changes the game. Unlike most assets, it doesn't rely on just one outcome. A single property can generate monthly cash flow, long-term appreciation, leverage that multiplies gains, tax benefits that protect your income, and depreciation that offsets your liability.  It's not just about the property; it's about stacking advantages so your wealth grows from multiple directions at once. Why do investors lose many on great investments? What makes real estate such an incredible wealth-building asset class, especially now?  In this episode, I sit down with Axel Meierhoefer, the founder of Ideal Wealth Grower, to unpack why real estate is uniquely built for multi-layered wealth, why most investors sabotage themselves before they even begin, and how defining success is the ultimate edge that turns purpose into profit.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Linear vs. exponential thinking Most people still plan for a slow, predictable future. Why is that mindset a liability in an AI-driven, quantum world? -The hidden laws of wealth Wealth isn't random; it follows timeless laws. How do today's investors misinterpret them, and what are the modern rules you actually need to follow? -Real estate's unfair advantage Cash flow, appreciation, depreciation, leverage, why is real estate the only asset that pays you in multiple ways at once? -Purpose as the ultimate filterInvesting without a clear purpose is gambling. How does defining your personal "why" change the way you buy, hold, and exit investments?   Guest Bio Axel Meierhoefer, PhD, is a mentor, coach, author, advisor to startups, and Fortune 1000 companies, and the founder of Ideal Wealth Grower. Wealth Grower offers you the experience, know-how, and strategic planning that help lead to better decisions and becoming financially free through passive income. The team helps investors turn critical and complex real estate issues into opportunities for growth, resilience, and long-term advantage. With a deep understanding of the interplay between today's changing real estate marketplace issues, Ideal Wealth Grower offers clients innovative ideas about how to enhance their results and get ahead of key issues. To learn more or work with Alex, visit https://idealwealthgrower.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™, and a Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

From the outside, doctors and dentists look like they've got it all: good money, respected careers, the kind of lifestyle most people want. But what almost no one talks about is how fragile that life really is.  One accident, one injury, and the very hands that their entire career depends on can suddenly stop producing income. That was Dr. Jeff Anzalone's reality after a skiing accident nearly ended his ability to practice dentistry. It forced him to realize: as much as medicine can be rewarding, it's still trading time for money, and it can all disappear in an instant. The solution wasn't to abandon his practice, but to build wealth in a way that didn't depend on his hands or hours. Real estate offered the answer, but not the kind most people think of. Doctors don't have the time to chase tenants, fix plumbing, or manage property managers. They need a model that lets them keep their focus on patients while still capturing the benefits of ownership. That's where mobile home parks came in. It's one of the most resilient ways to generate passive income, diversify risk, and create long-term wealth, without becoming a landlord. Why are most doctors skating on thin ice financially? How do you use real estate to stop trading time for money?  In this episode, periodontist and founder of Debt-Free Doctor, Dr. Jeff Anzalone, joins me to dig into why doctors' careers are more vulnerable than most people realize.  We discuss how passive real estate investing gives them financial resilience without sacrificing their practice. You'll also learn why mobile home parks may be the most overlooked wealth-building vehicle in America today. Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -The hidden math of medicine Doctors look wealthy, but most start their careers buried in debt and chasing appearances. How does the "doctor dream" set them up for financial struggle? -A wake-up call on the slopes A skiing accident nearly ended Jeff's ability to practice dentistry. Why did that moment push him to find income streams beyond the chair? -Mobile homes, massive opportunity Mobile home parks aren't glamorous, but they deliver stability and cash flow. Why is this overlooked sector one of the strongest plays in affordable housing? -Who, not how For doctors, it's nearly impossible to focus on their practice while also managing tenants. How did Jeff scale to 11 mobile home parks without becoming a landlord?   Guest Bio Dr. Jeff Anzalone is a periodontist in Louisiana and the founder of Debt-Free Doctor. A few short years ago, he started to worry about my family's financial future. As a solo practitioner, Jeff knew that if something happened to him, no other income would be coming in. These concerns prompted him to take a hard look at his financial future, and he realized that something needed to be done. He learned how to build multiple streams of passive income so that he can replace his active income each year. Now he's helping other doctors do the same. To learn more, go to https://www.debtfreedr.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you! 

Most people who buy life insurance never read the fine print. They're promised "stock market–like returns without the risk," a retirement account that doubles as a tax-free loan machine, and peace of mind for their families. On paper? It looks like the perfect product. But what happens when the math doesn't add up, the illustrations don't match reality, and families find out, years later, that the policy they've been funding is set to collapse? That's the dark underbelly of the Indexed Universal Life (IUL) industry. And it's exactly what my guest, Jonathan, aka the IUL Exposer, has dedicated his career to uncovering. He's reviewed over 4,000 policies in just 18 months, uncovered systemic mis-selling, and even built a process that has helped families claw back over a million dollars in refunds. Jonathan isn't anti-insurance. He's anti–false promises. His work shines a light on how commissions drive product design, why regulators are warning against IULs, and how clients are left holding the bag when agents disappear. This episode isn't about theory, it's about hard numbers, legal battles, and the uncomfortable truths most of the industry hopes you never learn. Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Illustrations are a trap IUL projects steady growth that rarely happens. Why do clients still trust the numbers? -Commissions drive the product IULs are sold 10-to-1 over whole life because they pay the fattest commissions. What does that reveal about whose interests are really being served? -Refunds are possible Families often think their money is gone forever. How are some clawing back tens of thousands in refunds? -Indexes aren't what they seem Synthetic "uncapped" indexes promise market-like returns but rarely deliver. How are clients set up for disappointment from day one?   Guest Bio Jonathan Aguilera is the voice behind @lifeinsurancerefunds on TikTok and Instagram, a platform dedicated to exposing misleading life insurance practices, breaking down complex policies, and helping families recover money they thought was lost. Licensed since 2012, Jonathan once built a national agency of 250+ licensed agents with Primerica. But when faced with the choice to "stay quiet to stay compliant" or speak up for what's right, he chose the latter. He resigned, surrendered his securities licenses, and walked away from everything he'd built to launch DTRT Financial, not just a company, but a movement. Jonathan isn't the suit-and-tie advisor chasing commissions. He's the guy who got fed up watching families get misled, overcharged, and under-informed. Through thousands of policy reviews, he's exposed the harsh realities of cash value life insurance while educating the masses on how to make intentional financial choices. Visit IULExposer.com to learn more.  About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Most business owners only call the bank when they're in trouble. Cash is tight, deals are falling apart, stress is mounting.  By then? It's too late.  The banks shut the doors and wave at you from behind the glass. That's the obvious mistake. The less obvious one? Not realizing the best time to secure financing is when you don't need it. That's when banks give you more, on better terms, and when private lenders are willing to play ball. That's the theme of my conversation with George Otel, founder of U.S. Business Funding. He's closed 400+ deals, from SBA loans to $50M commercial bridge financings.  He's also been on the other side as a business owner who knows what it's like to hit a wall when funding isn't lined up. And right now, while capital feels scarce and multifamily investors are calling this a "3-year recession," George sees massive opportunity, especially with the $10 trillion baby boomer business sell-off already underway. Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Banks love you more when you don't need them. You'll get offered more money than you asked for when you're strong, but the second you look distressed, the same lender disappears. Why is that the exact opposite of how entrepreneurs think about financing? -Bridge loans are just the beginning. Fast capital is a band-aid, not a solution. The winners use bridge money only as a setup for long-term refinancing. How do you structure that from day one so you don't get stuck? -Buying beats building in this market. You'll struggle to get a dime for a startup, but banks line up for businesses with systems and cash flow. With trillions in businesses set to change hands, is acquisition the smarter path for the next generation?   Guest Bio George Otel is a business mentor, investor, entrepreneur, and financing expert. He specializes in start-up and business finance options, helping them attract the right capital for their business. George's goal is to educate entrepreneurs, small business owners, franchise owners, business consultants, and professionals on how to obtain capital in today's lending environment and avoid declines. Over the years, George and his partners have helped direct thousands of entrepreneurs and businesses in the US in obtaining access to hundreds of millions of dollars so they could start, grow, and expand their businesses. To learn more, visit http://usbusinessfunding.net/, send George a DM on LinkedIn, or send a text to 414-475-7757.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor with a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.   His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.   Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.         Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you! 

Most real estate investors are running the same race: chasing the hottest markets, competing for the same deals, and trying to outbid one another. The problem? That crowded approach often blinds you to the opportunities hiding in plain sight. The truth is, success in investing isn't about following the crowd or chasing trends; it's about looking where others aren't, leading with strategy, and building relationships that open doors no one else can see. That's what sets Aleea Stanton apart. She didn't start investing just to rack up properties. She began with a deeper purpose: to give back to her grandparents, who shaped her life.  That generosity sparked a ripple effect, creating community connections and investment opportunities most investors overlook. In this episode, real estate investor and attorney Aleea C. Stanton joins me to share her journey from practicing law to building a thriving investing career.  We talk about what ignited her passion for real estate, how she finds deals differently than most, and the mindset shift that's allowed her to succeed where others stall out.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Finding the fuel for your fire Identifying your true source of motivation is what drives consistency and purpose in your daily life. What is the one thing that fuels your fire and pushes you to keep going, even on tough days? -Creating a repeatable system that works Mastering the process of flipping houses creates a repeatable system that can be applied to future real estate deals. How can refining one successful process make every future flip more efficient and profitable? -Building a firm foundation Trust is the foundation of lasting success in real estate partnerships. How do you actively build and maintain trust with the people you work with in real estate? Guest Bio Aleea C. Stanton is a seasoned attorney and real estate investor based in New York. She serves as Counsel in the Disputes & Investigations practice at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP, specializing in white-collar defense, securities enforcement, and government investigations. Her expertise encompasses matters related to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA), securities enforcement, and corporate compliance, with a focus on industries such as technology, oil and gas, aerospace, and defense  Aleea earned her Juris Doctor (J.D.) from Howard University School of Law, where she was a semifinalist in the John J. Gibbons Moot Court Competition.  In addition to her legal career, Aleea is actively involved in real estate investing.  Aleea's unique combination of legal expertise and real estate investment experience positions her as a valuable resource for individuals navigating the complexities of real estate transactions and legal considerations in the industry. Follow Aleea on Instagram @leescheri    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

You've experienced life at the highest level: private planes, exclusive circles, red carpet events, and the luxury that money can buy. But beyond the accolades and access, have you ever found yourself asking, 'Is this all there is?' There's a silent struggle that often shadows success. Behind the velvet ropes and curated lifestyles, many high-profile individuals wrestle with an inner void—an ache that no amount of wealth, recognition, or adrenaline can truly silence. When the applause quiets and the entourage leaves, the stillness can feel suffocating. For some, that emptiness is numbed by alcohol or distraction. The result? A slow unraveling. What once felt like a dream life begins to lose its shape, and the future becomes harder to see. But there is another way forward. Sometimes, it takes losing everything you thought mattered to discover what truly does.  That was David Christensen's journey. Once immersed in the Hollywood elite and high-adrenaline adventures, yes, even Titanic exploration, David found himself at a crossroads as the lifestyle he built began to unravel.  In this episode, he shares how reconnecting with purpose led him to an unexpected but deeply fulfilling new path in real estate.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Keep your eyes on the prize Staying connected to your purpose keeps you motivated through challenges. What's the bigger goal that drives you to keep going when things get tough? -Figuring out your "why" Clarity on your "why" is the foundation for lasting fulfillment and purpose. What would your life look like if every decision you made was aligned with your true "why"? -From red carpets to open houses Managing Hollywood artists and working in real estate aren't actually all that different. What other surprising traits do the two share?   Guest Bio David Christensen is a nationally recognized luxury Realtor and speaker who has sold more than 400 homes and been honored as a 2025 'Realtor of the Year' nominee, four-time ICON Agent, and eight-time 'Best of Zillow' award winner. This year he made global headlines representing the sale of the iconic 'Breaking Bad' house, featured in The New York Times, Robb Report, and The Wall Street Journal, among others.  Prior to his career in real estate, David managed music artists and projects as an entertainment executive in Los Angeles. He also served as Media Director for a renowned TITANIC expedition, diving 12,800 feet to the wreck site; an experience shared by fewer than 200 people worldwide.  David's life is a powerful story of resilience and reinvention: from Hollywood success to personal collapse, and ultimately to successful entrepreneur and purpose-driven leader. As a speaker, he shares on real estate, transformation, resilience, and turning your "comeback into a calling". Visit https://davidchristensen.com/  Find David on LinkedIn @David Christensen Follow David on Instagram @davidchristensenre  Facebook: David Christensen - Realtor | Bedford NH YouTube: David Christensen - Realtor Email David: david.christensen@exprealty.com About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you! 

You've got something valuable sitting right under your nose: your home's equity. But here's the thing: it's not exactly helping you pay the bills. Your house might be worth a lot more than before, but day-to-day expenses still pile up.  Inflation's squeezing your paycheck, groceries keep getting more expensive, and it feels like you're stretched thinner every month. You're "house rich," sure, but cash? Not so much. And that's exhausting. The reality is, owning a valuable home doesn't mean your wallet feels any heavier. Lots of folks are stuck in this same spot right now, especially with the economy tightening. But what if there was a way to use that equity, something that works for you no matter what the market's doing? That's where storage comes into play. Storage isn't just some nice-to-have extra space; it's something people and businesses need all the time. Whether people are downsizing, companies need room to grow, or life throws curveballs, demand stays steady.  And because of that, storage has quietly outperformed a lot of flashier investments, even during tough times. In this episode, I chat with Arthur Hood, CEO of HV Family Holdings, about why storage is worth paying attention to, how to break free from being cash poor, and what the future holds for this surprisingly resilient market.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -No negatives in 3 decades The storage industry's consistent demand has kept it profitable for nearly three decades. What factors make storage so resilient, even during economic downturns? -The housing shortage dilemma A growing housing shortage is being met with luxury developments instead of the affordable options communities actually need. Why are developers prioritizing high-end projects when the demand is for affordable housing? -Cost segregation = faster depreciation. Cost segregation can accelerate depreciation, giving you larger tax deductions sooner. How could accelerating depreciation through cost segregation impact your tax savings this year?   Guest Bio Arthur Hood is the CEO of HV Family Holdings, a real estate investment firm specializing in self-storage assets. With years of experience in identifying recession-resistant opportunities, Arthur has built a portfolio that thrives in both booming and challenging markets. He's passionate about helping everyday investors turn stagnant home equity into steady, reliable income streams. By focusing on storage—a necessity-driven asset class, Arthur shows people how to create cash flow that isn't at the mercy of market swings. Connect with Arthur on LinkedIn.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

You built your business from scratch and poured your heart and soul into it. So it might feel strange, even disloyal, to think about stepping away or exiting.  From the outside, everything's working: sales are up, your team's solid, and your brand is gaining traction. But under the surface? You're tired, the vision that once felt clear now feels fuzzy, and growth has started to feel like a grind. This isn't uncommon. Many founders hesitate to plan an exit because things still feel "fine." But there's a big difference between "fine" and truly free. Founders leave their businesses for all kinds of reasons, burnout, shifting goals, evolving partnerships, or simply growing beyond what they once built.  The biggest misstep is waiting until things fall apart to start thinking about what's next. How do you build with the exit in mind?  In this episode, I'm joined by Cody Hofhine, the founder of Utah Sell Now, Texas Sell Now, and Joe Homebuyer. As a business owner who has exited four companies, he has a lot to share about what worked, what didn't, and what every founder should consider before making their move.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode -Having the right mentors Learning from mentors who have already achieved your goals provides proven guidance and shortcuts to success. How can following someone who's already succeeded save you time and prevent common mistakes? -Invest in yourself Investing in yourself is the most important step because you are the driving force behind your own success. How are you prioritizing your personal growth to create the impact you want in your life? -Quit linear thinking Embracing non-linear, audacious thinking can spark breakthroughs beyond conventional limits. What bold goal would you pursue if you stopped following the usual rules? Guest Bio Cody Hofhine is a multiple Inc. 5000 business owner, real estate investor/mentor, and sought-after Speaker. He is the co-founder of Wholesaling Inc., the #1 Real Estate coaching program across the nation, and Joe Homebuyer, the leading Real Estate Franchise. Cody has coached over 3000 students on how to successfully build their Real Estate Business through his real estate training, as well as help individuals perform at their highest levels with his one-on-one mentoring. Cody used his background in sales to quickly build multiple 7 and 8-figure real estate businesses that all start on the foundation of clarity or vision and purpose. Visit https://joehomebuyerfranchising.com/  Visit https://codyhofhine.com/  Follow Cody on Instagram @codyhofhine Look out for the Cody Holfine podcast launching August 4th, and stay tuned for the Chris Naugle episode!      About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.   His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.   Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Here's the dirty secret in the term insurance industry: They win when you cancel. They win when your policy lapses. They win when you don't understand what you really own. Think about that for a second. You've been sold on the idea that term insurance is the smart, affordable choice. But what no one tells you is this: it's a ticking clock. If you outlive the term, you get nothing. All those years of paying in? Gone. Just like that. Who wins? The insurance companies. Every. Single. Time. They count on you to drop it. They bank on you not knowing any better. But what if you flipped the script? What if you could turn the tides and make term insurance work for YOU? What if you could unlock hidden value in your policy before it vanishes? Because the truth is that you can. There are strategies the wealthy use to extract value from term policies that most people surrender without a second thought. Rob Haynie, Managing Director at Life Insurance Settlements, Inc., joins me in this episode to expose the hidden greed within the insurance industry. We dive into how millions are misled when it comes to term life insurance. More importantly, we reveal how you can flip the script and use your policy to your advantage instead of getting taken for a ride.   Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Do more than just surrender Most people with term insurance don't realize there are alternatives to surrendering their policy. What if you could unlock hidden value from your term policy instead of just walking away from it? -Slow economy surrender In a slowing economy, many are surrendering their life insurance policies without realizing they may have better options. What are the other things you can do? -Optimizing assets Term insurance can be treated as an asset, just like your home, because you own it. If your term policy is an asset, are you making the most of its hidden value? Guest Bio Rob Haynie is the Managing Director and one of the founding partners of Life Insurance Settlements, Inc. (LIS), a leading life settlement brokerage based in Pompano Beach, Florida. With over 31 years of experience in the industry, Haynie has been instrumental in shaping the life settlement market, advocating for the value of life insurance as an asset class, and educating financial professionals and policyholders about settlement options. Throughout his career, Haynie has been directly involved in negotiating and settling thousands of life insurance policies, earning a reputation as one of the most influential figures in the field. He has served multiple terms on the Board of Directors of the Life Insurance Settlement Association (LISA) and has been a charter member of its Public Policy Committee, which focuses on regulatory and legislative activities within the industry. Haynie is a frequent speaker at industry events and has co-hosted the podcast Unlocking the Hidden Value of Your Life Insurance, where he discusses the benefits and intricacies of life settlements.  Call Rob on 954-599-4433 Email Rob rob@lisettlements.com Find Rob on LinkedIn @Rob Haynie    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Feeling burnt out? You're not the only investor hitting that wall. Long hours, back-to-back deals, tenants, contractors, financing, and the never-ending pressure to grow. You got into real estate for time freedom and financial independence, but somewhere along the way, it started to feel like just another grind. Here's the truth most investors won't say out loud: Burnout isn't a rite of passage, it's a red flag. And ignoring it can cost you more than just momentum; it can eat away at your health, relationships, and your reason for investing in the first place. But what if there's another way to build wealth? A shift from burnout to balance. It's not about more doors, bigger portfolios, or chasing status. It's about designing a real estate business that gives you the life you actually want. In this episode, I'm joined by Ashley Kehr, a rental property investor and co-host of the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast. She shares her journey of stepping off the hamster wheel and into a simpler, more powerful version of success. One built around freedom, clarity, and sustainability. Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Opportunities in real estate investing Real estate investing can offer more than financial security; it can create freedom, flexibility, and a lifestyle on your terms. What other opportunities can real estate investing open up? -Shiny object syndrome New entrepreneurs and investors often fall into the trap of chasing trendy opportunities instead of staying focused on proven strategies. How do we focus on moving the needle instead of the next big thing? -Build a firm foundation Start by leveraging your strengths and skills, then pursue your passions once you've established a solid foundation. How can focusing on current strengths pave the way for achieving long-term goals? Guest Bio Ashley Kehr is the co-host of the Real Estate Rookie Podcast. Just a few years removed from being a beginner herself, Ashley is now helping newbies figure out actionable steps to get their first deal. She has a dual degree in finance and public accounting and recently became a licensed insurance agent. Ashley purchased her first rental property in 2014 and, since then, has grown her buy-and-hold portfolio to over 30 units. She has experience in residential and commercial properties. She attributes much of her success to the use of partners on several real estate deals and creative financing. Ashley developed a passion for real estate after quitting her staff accountant job to work as a property manager. Within several years, she had created two property management companies, which she ran for over five years. Her specialty was creating systems to work efficiently and remotely within companies. Currently, Ashley outsources property management and spends her time educating new investors and finding deals to BRRRR. Visit https://www.biggerpockets.com/  Be a guest on the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast https://airtable.com/appnZ2AGUknfciOzu/pagvbFaEPNprDBVKi/form  Listen to the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast here https://www.biggerpockets.com/podcasts/real-estate-rookie  Follow Ashley on Instagram @wealthfromrentals  Visit https://www.ashleykehr.com/    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America's #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!