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If you're a fitness professional, entrepreneur, or just a fitness enthusiast who has a deep appreciation for the science of not only getting results for your body; but how to market, communicate, sell, influence, and lead, then the Fitness Business Podcast, hosted by Erin Dimond and Jordan Dugger is for you.

Erin and Jordan are owners of Transform 4Ever Systems, a 7-Figure Online Fitness Coaching Company, that is known for solving the problems that other coaches fail.

Along with that, they own Impact Fitness Coaching Academy, a 7+ Figure All-In-One Accelerator for coaches, personal trainers, and health industry entrepreneurs to start, grow, and scale their businesses, all online.

This podcast brings REAL, and ACTIONABLE steps to level up your personal growth, business growth, and how to look better naked in the process. The Fitness Business Podcast hosts weekly guests ranging from industry experts, marketing experts, copywriters, PhDs, and thought leaders from around the world.

The mission is to not only teach you the tools to earn more money and make more of an impact, but we aim to help you to look at the world a bit differently, with each and every episode.
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If you are in a season where you feel like your business is on fire, and you cannot tell if it is actually on fire or if you are just mentally setting it on fire because you are stressed, this episode is for you. Because I said something on an Open Office Hour call recently that I want to tattoo on the inside of every entrepreneur's eyelids. When I do not have clarity on what is actually happening in my business, my default is: everything is wrong. Everything is broken. Everything is failing. Everything is about to fall apart. And then my brain does what brains do, it starts trying to solve 17 problems at once, and I spiral, and I feel heavy, and I feel panicky, and then I start making dumb decisions from that energy. So today, I want to give you a simple framework that will stop that spiral fast. Not in a fluffy, "just journal and breathe" way. In a CEO way. In a "give me the truth so I can take action" way. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:30) Actual Fire vs Emotional Fire (2:31) Open Your Tracker (3:28) What Spiraling Really Means (15:50) Don't Discount Out Of Fear ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
I'm about to be really open and honest with you and share some of the huge mistakes and learning lessons that we made in 2024. I want to help you avoid these. And I also just want to be transparent. Not all years are great years. We've had tough years in the past. 2025 was no different in some regards and I want to open up about 3 mistakes that we made, 2 that were strategic errors and one "mistake" that was just a consequence of getting Erin and I out of the business full time. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (1:15) Quick Backstory in 2022 (4:40) Business Is Not For The Weak (5:55) CAC to LTV Ratio (11:47) Mistake #1: Mid Ticket Offer (14:34) Mistake #2: Ascension Issue (16:58) "Mistake" #3: Removing Ourselves From The Business ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
If you want to build a business that gives you freedom, flexibility, and a life you don't grow to hate, listen to this ASAP. Today I'm sitting down with Camden Mamian - someone who's been in our world for a while now, and his story is absolutely insane. We're talking college dropout, making $500 a month in 2022... to now closing in on $700K this year. Ocean-view penthouse in San Diego, 12K on Instagram, and a business that actually gives him his life back. But here's what I love about Camden's story - it's not clean. It's not perfect. He's had to fight through real constraints, money mindset stuff, and figuring out what it actually takes to scale past $500K. So if you're anywhere between $5K and $50K a month and you're wondering what the next level actually looks like... this one's for you. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:56) IFCA Student Camden (2:04) Dropping Out Of College (4:50) Learning Marketing (6:18) Jumping Into IFCA (8:04) Belief Shifts and Charging What You're Worth (12:16) Spending Every Dollar on IFCA At The Time (15:31) From The DM's to Sales Calls (17:29) Current Revenue and The Future (19:16) Lifestyle Now (21:56) Advice To Younger Self (30:40) Where To Find Camden ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
I'm going to be super vulnerable with you guys in this episode and share why this year was the most turbulent year for Jordan and I's marriage. We are better than ever now but we were tested a lot this year and if I can reveal any of the mines ahead for you to watch out for, this is worth sharing. I'll also share what we were able to do differently after Marlee's birth vs Jaxson's birth for all my first time entrepreneur parents out there. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:26) Different Style of Episode (1:48) Marlee June Dugger (2:42) Struggling During Pregnancy (9:55) Rearranging Schedules (12:00) 9 Weeks Off In The Business (13:20) Lower Year Overall (15:50) Sleep and A Night Nanny ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
If your show rate drops, your close rate dips, and your calendar starts looking like a ghost town, I need you to hear me. That does not automatically mean your business is broken. Sometimes your business is fine. Your nervous system is just screaming that it is not. And if you are a business owner responsible for other people's livelihoods, that pressure hits different. It is heavy. It can feel personal. It can feel like you are failing, even when you are not. So today, I want to talk about the CEO mindset for slow months, weird months, December months, and any season where you are doing all the right things and results still feel… off. Because this is hard. And hard does not mean wrong. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:42) When You Experience A Dip In Business (3:12) DM Me If You Resonate With This (6:45) Your Nervous System and The Data (8:48) Choosing Your Hard* (11:05) WorkingΒ  In The Business vs On The Business (13:00) December Is Notorious Weird (15:13) The Scrappy List You Need To Steal (17:30) Team Pressure (19:48) Pregnancy Brain and Leadership ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
This is one of those talks you'll want to come back to again and again when things get hard and they will as a business owner. It's what you signed up for and everyday you head says to quit but your heart keeps you in the game, you demonstrate that necessary courage that entrepreneurship demands. This is a special episode where Erin shared her State of The Union to our IFCA students and we wanted to share it with our community here! Β  Time Stamps: Β  (2:00) No One Understands The Entrepreneur But Entrepreneurs (3:20) Why Most Coaches Quit (5:38) Your Stuck Because You Return To The Same Patterns (11:24) Your Nervous System Doesn't Care About Your Goals (16:38) Self-Awareness (19:30) Results Take Longer Than Your Expect (21:30) The Real Definition of Courage (25:33) Borrowing Beliefs (29:25) Stacking Evidence (30:50) Full Identity Crisis (32:42) Fear Means Lean In (38:35) What Landed In This Talk? ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
You need to approach your content in a strategic way if you want results in 2026 and in today's episode, I'm going to breakdown the 5 types of content that are crushing right now. I'll explain each type, give you examples, and also explain how paid ads are the key to accelerating followers, engagement, and clients. Time Stamps: Β  (0:30) Why Your Content Isn't Going Viral (2:10) Demonstration Reels (4:40) Negative Hooks (7:37) Credibility Hooks (8:50) Story Based Vulnerability (10:42) B Roll with Text Overlay (11:40) Paid Ads ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
If 2026 is the year you want to go from fully in-person to either a hybrid model or fully online, you can't miss this episode. I want to share with you some advice I recently gave inside of IFCA to a trainer looking to go online but hesitant and some valid concerns. This episode will help you break your limiting beliefs and show you why going online is far more valuable for your clients and you. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:49) Recent Webinar Example (2:18) Your Clients Ultimately Want The Result (5:07) The Position of Power (7:38) Hybrid Next Step Pitch (9:25) Breaking Limiting Beliefs ---------- "The Three Steps To Transition From In-Person to Online Training WITHOUT Sacrificing Results & Quality" ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
I used to work 70 hours a week. Grinding to make 30-40K/ month. I used to wonder how I'd ever have a family AND the life that I wanted. In the 3-4 years before having my son… I figured it out. I was able to scale from 40K to 140K/month and I went from working 70 hours a week in that business to 4 hours a week in that business. Delegation and leadership played a part but the BIGGEST difference was learning how to increase LTV of every single client that came into my coaching (so I could work with LESS clients and make MORE money) and that's what I want to talk to you about today.Β  We'll talk about what LTV actually looks like, what you need before you start running ads, how to not make the same mistake I made that costs me 6 figures, and more! Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:45) 70 Hours A Week When I First Started (2:07) Increasing LTV (5:25) Upcoming January 4th Workshop (5:50) The Mistake That Costed Me Multiple 6 Figures (10:57) The Backend Offer (12:05) LTV and Ads (12:50) Your Offer (13:59) My Maturity Leave ---------- Join Our FREE Live Workshop on Sunday, January 4th at 3pm EST Where You'll Learn How to Add $146,000 in Revenue by Signing Just 2 Clients Per Week (Without Chasing A Single New Lead) ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
Alyica Israel AKA Be Your Own Daddy is back on the podcast and we are going to talk about a lot of her business journey but one part in particular when she started to run ads and everything changed. Well not everything but when you listen, you'll understand what changed. The marketing game has changed since 2019 and it's important to keep up with what's working and hearing it from someone who's crushing in our field today is exactly what we are bringing you! Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:10) Be Your Own Daddy Is Back (1:30) What AB Barbell Looked Like Before IFCA (3:40) Stubborn About Mentorship (7:34) Data and The Entrepreneur's Mental and Emotional State (12:55) 2019 vs 2025 Marketing Game (19:50) Ads and The Ego (23:00) Alycia's Ads Journey (28:43) Ads Improve Your Sales and Nurture Skills (41:35) The Fearlessness of Lacey Iskra (44:00) Parting Advice (48:33) Where To Find Alycia ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
If I were to build a fitness coaching business from scratch in 2026 using everything I know about where the market is heading, this is exactly what I would do. We'll look at Alex Hormozi's value equation to frame this conversation, finding who would actually pay this much for this service, how to sell the vacation not the flight, and more! Β  Time Stamps: Β  (2:15) Team Off-Site and What I Learned (5:25) Alex Hormozi's Value Equation (7:29) Likelihood of Achievement And Doing It Yourself First (10:53) Decreasing Effort and Sacrifice (13:25) Pricing (14:27) Who The Hell Will Pay This Much? (16:49) Selling The Vacation Not The Flight (18:43) Data Problem over Discipline Problem ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
If you aren't crystal clear about your niche and who your offer serves, you will be at a disadvantage going forward and we don't want that for you. In today's episode, I'll explain how to finally find your niche in 2025 going into 2026 that will attract the clients you want to work with. You'll be surprised how specific some of our IFCA students are with their niches and we hope this inspires you to go deeper with your offer. Β  Time Stamps:Β  Β  (0:29) Finding Your Niche (1:01) IFCA Client Examples (2:22) Niching Is About Precision, Not Exclusion (2:39) Tokyo Book Stores and Niches (3:49) Confusing Is Losing (5:49) Choosing Your Niche (7:56) Your Unique Method (9:51) Matching Your Client Niche? (11:06) Psychographics vs Demographics (12:16) Cardiac Rehab Niche Example (13:46) Your Next Step (15:01) DM Me "AI Offer" ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video Β 
The functional health world is exploding right now and if you have the skills or desire to have the to deliver in this field, 2026 could be your best year yet. Today, I have on a former student, success coach, and incredible entrepreneur Lacey Iskra on the show to talk about her business LifestyleU and how it has evolved from fat loss to root cause functional health coaching. We talk about marketing, content, and getting over your fear of putting yourself out there. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:10) THE Lacey Iskra (1:30) Lacey's Journey Through IFCA (9:10) Virality Isn't Luck (10:50) Positioning Success (18:20) Pivoting From Fat Loss (21:17) Offer=Problem You Solve (22:49) The Blue Light Blocker Glasses (23:45) What LifestyleU Solves (30:00) Lacey's Content Creation Process (38:28) People Need You (41:50) Where To Find Lacey ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video Β 
Pursing passive income sounds like a smart idea until you find out its bullshit especially in the beginning. We didn't start thinking about passive income until we were taking home 100k a month from our business and we were able to reach 100k take home months by investing in ourselves and increasing our active income streams. I'll explain why you shouldn't chase low tickets offers, what to do instead, and why your offer is your first step to success. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:17) Passive Income Is Mostly Bullshit (3:35) Hormozi's Value Equation (5:10) Recently Came Back From A 20k Retreat (7:44) Fixing Your Offer (9:35) If You Need Help, This Is Our Jam ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video Β 
Have you ever had a moment in your business where you think… Β  Okay, everything is working… but also nothing is working… and also I'm exhausted… and also I need someone to just tell me what to do next"? Β  Maybe you're a mom trying to grow your coaching business on three hours of sleep. Maybe you're getting sales calls where people say things like "I'm a 4 out of 10" and you're sitting there wondering if you should even give the price. Maybe you're leading a coach who's missing renewal KPIs and you're thinking "Is this a coaching problem… or a me problem?" Β  Or maybe your VA hits you with her personal financial stress and suddenly you're like "Wait a second. This is not my responsibility… but now I feel weird." Β  Today I'm taking you inside an open office hour call with my IFCA clients. Real situations. Real messiness. Real coaching. Β  And I'm going to walk you through the exact frameworks I used to solve them so you can apply the same thinking in your business. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:20) Open Office Hours Call (2:05) What We'll Cover (3:25) New Mom and Entrepreneurship (7:24) 4 Out Of 10 During Sales Discovery (10:35) Self-Awareness As A Leader (14:37) Ghosting and Still Paying? (16:15) VA Employment Issues (18:20) Important Recap Points ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video Β 
We want you to finish the year strong in business and that comes down to sales. I want to share this quick episode on the mindset around sales that have helped our top students inside of IFCA and what has helped us reached over 40 million in sales.Β  Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:05) Why Sales Feels Gross To Most Coaches (1:10) Caring And Selling Are The Same (1:50) Rule #1: Always Do What's Best For The Prospect (2:40) #2: What's Best For The Prospect is Always Outside Their Comfort Zone (3:40) #3: Prospects Will Fight, Kick, and Scream Like Hell to Stay In Their Comfort Zone (4:40) You Have To Do The Uncomfortable Thing First ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video Β 
Β What I'm gonna share with you today is a live role-play from our Sales Director, AP, from a recent Black Friday webinar we did. We had one of our attendees, Caitlyn, ask a question about how to structure Black Friday offers when clients have payment objections. And rather than me just coaching on it, I was like, 'AP, do you just want to role-play this with her live?' And what you're about to hear is a masterclass on how to handle the situation when somebody says, 'I can't afford it.' Now, here's the context: The biggest mistake most coaches make when presenting price is they just say, 'Hey, here's the paid-in-full price' or 'If you do a payment plan, here's what it looks like.' That's a terrible way to do it because it leaves all your negotiating ability off the table. When AP came in and changed our sales process to use this new framework, our cash collection rate went from 30% to 70%. And why does that matter? Well, A: cash fuels the business to grow. But B: and this is the more important part, the more cash you collect on a deal, the more sticky it is. Meaning the more likely it is that the person is actually going to take action, follow through on their commitments, stick through the remainder of the program, and ultimately get results. So pay attention to how AP isolates objections, uses tie-downs, and specifically the final question he asks before ever presenting a payment option. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:20) Recent IFCA Sales Roleplay Call (2:40) Handling Price Objections (9:00) Breaking Down The Nuances ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video Β 
Β If the coaching space feels different right now β€” heavier, slower, more discerning β€” you're not imagining it. Β  The market is shifting. And it's not shifting in the way most coaches think. It's not that people don't want coaching. It's not that the economy is bad. It's not that Instagram is "over-saturated." Β  It's that people are no longer buying information. Β  They're buying identity. And because of that β€” the strategies that worked in 2021, 2022, even early 2024… they simply don't hold the same weight today. Β  If you want to be relevant in 2026, you need to understand the deeper shift that's happening underneath the tactics β€” the cultural shift shaping how people choose mentors, how they commit to transformation, and who they trust with their future. Β  Today, I'm going to walk you through the 10 coaching industry trends that we think will define the next year β€” and exactly what to do about them now. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:20) The Future of Online Fitness Coaching (3:26) DM Us For More Information (4:02) #1: Rise of The Hybrid Coach (5:20) #2: Niche Depth > Niche Category (6:54) #3: Coaches Are Becoming Media Personalities (8:36) #4: AI Becomes Invisible (10:03) #5: Identity and Behavior Coaching Goes Mainstream (11:00) #6: Lifestyle Optimization (11:50) #7: Death To $200 A Month Coach (13:28) #8: Community and Belonging (13:49) #9: Immersive Experiences (15:13) #10: Coaches Who Can Speak Win ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
A lot of coaches make this grave mistake this time of year and I don't want you to be one of them. After the Black Friday dust settles, a lot of coaches rest on their laurels and miss a huge buying opportunity that people are still in. On today's episode, I'm going to breakdown how to create a Cyber Monday offer that crushes. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:37) Don't Fuck Up Cyber Monday (1:32) Episode 691 and Black Friday Strategy Replay (3:12) Who This Is For (3:42) What To Offer Β (7:27) The Sales Process ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
We talk about our success with IFCA a lot but if you've been around awhile, you'll remember we started with a fitness coaching company called T4E systems. We do the exact same playbook for both companies and it's simple, repeatable, and hasn't burnt us out. I'll share how we were able to take T4E to 150k a month, sell it, and how we are doing the same thing with IFCA hitting 8 million a year for the past 3 years. Β  Time Stamps: Β  (0:40) Scaling and Selling T4E Systems (2:12) Please Subscribe and Review (2:45) When We Started T4E Systems (5:04) Easy To Sell, Hard To Fulfill (6:10) The 3 Offer Structure (8:20) The Marketing System (11:04) Paid Media (12:08) Zoom Webinar's ---------- πŸ€– Want to Steal Our 10 Proven Viral Post Templates + An AI Agent That Turns Them Into 30 Days of Personalized Client-Getting Content In Just 15 Minutes? Get Instant Access To 10 Plug-And-Play Post Templates + A Custom AI Content Agent πŸ‘‰ Click Here For Instant Access Β  πŸ”₯ Want us to help you get your first or next 5 clients in 5 days β€” for just $5? Join the $5 Client-Getting Challenge and get the exact system we use with our students to book 5+ high-paying clients without ads or cold DMs. πŸ‘‰ Click Here to Join The 5-Day Challenge Β  Prefer to Watch? Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full video episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content β†’ πŸ‘‰ https://www.youtube.com/@jordandugger Β  Want support + free training? Join 4,000+ online coaches inside our private Facebook group + unlock the free "5 Clients in 5 Days" mini-course πŸ‘‰ Join the Fitness Business Secrets Group Β  πŸš€ Want to scale to $10k–$30k/month? Watch our 3-minute video to see how we help you install a plug-and-play "Client Engine" that brings in dream clients on autopilot. πŸ‘‰ Β Watch the 3-Minute Video
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Aaron Kubetz

Great stuff. Thank you!

Sep 12th
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Aaron Kubetz

21:00 This really resonated with me. I do fitness training because I am passionate about it. However, I also need to make a living so I understand I need to learn marketing and sales. It really irritates me to see people out there lose some weight with some program like Beach Body then start positioning themselves as an expert. And more importantly a lot of these people seem to be just in it for the money. As I said before I want the money but that is so I can earn a living perfecting my craft and providing the best possible results. Walk the walk and talk the talk. Further your education and strive to be a master. Don't just try to sell some generic products to make a few bucks. If you really believe in those products great but don't stop there. Continue to learn and grow so you can provide more value πŸ’―

Sep 10th
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Aaron Kubetz

Spoke too soon. Realized you address this later on in the call.

Sep 8th
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Aaron Kubetz

Good insights. As far as the market research bit how would you recommend that I phrase my survey copy to increase engagement? I have tried this exercise before and it was hard to get people to talk to.

Sep 8th
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Layne

Thanks for this episode, took a lot from it πŸ‘Œ

Sep 14th
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Layne

100% my favorite podcast, I listen to you guys on my way to and from work and it always keeps me motivated in multiple aspects πŸ‘

Aug 1st
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Mattie Miller

I love this podcast!!!! Thank you so much for sharing. I can't wait for more!

Aug 22nd
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