Real Talk with Leigh Brown

What do you do when a seller tells you, "If you disclose the house is unstable, I'll sue you"? In this episode, LA real estate veteran David Kramer breaks down the high-stakes world of luxury real estate where the houses are massive, but the legal risks are even bigger. Plus, David shares a specific strategy he used to win a $50M listing before the sellers could ask him a single question. This is an episode you won't want to miss!   Key takeaways to listen for How to handle high-stakes property disclosures Reasons "Liquidated Damages" and contract knowledge are your best tools Why focus is the ultimate competitive advantage in real estate A simple but effective strategy to success in real estate   Resources mentioned in this episode The Real Deal HGTV ChatGPT Taxi Driver (1976) - IMDb   About David Kramer David is a real estate agent unlike any other when it comes to buying and selling luxury properties in the Los Angeles and Beverly Hills areas. With 30 years of experience in representing buyers and sellers of high-end estates throughout the area, David has the skills and knowledge to obtain the results his clients are looking for, while maintaining the highest standards of integrity, confidentiality and professionalism.   Follow David Website: David Kramer Instagram: @davidkramerre Phone Number: (310) 691-2400   About Leigh BrownLeigh Brown is a keynote speaker and leadership expert who helps organizations navigate growth, conflict, and change with clarity and courage. Her message resonates with leaders facing real-world pressure—whether that's housing challenges, organizational friction, or cultural shifts. Her latest book, Next Is Now, equips leaders to stop reacting and start leading with intention. 👉 https://amzn.to/48FKenF👉 Bring Leigh to your stage: https://leighbrown.comDM Leigh on Instagram: @LeighThomasBrown

If you're feeling exhausted by the constant waves of change in our industry, you aren't alone. But here is the hard truth: Exhaustion is not an excuse for paralysis.  In this episode, I chat with Keith Robinson, Co-CEO of NextHome, to talk about why so many agents are "freezing" right now and why that's the most dangerous thing you can do for your business.   Key takeaways to listen for Why the next 18 - 24 months are the most critical in modern real estate history The future of NAR and why trade associations must get back to the trade Reasons leadership ego is stifling the best talent in our industry The reality of being a "post-COVID" agent Ways to stay informed without letting industry noise kill your lead gen   Resources mentioned in this episode National Association of REALTORS® The Private Listing Reckoning: Who Controls Inventory Controls the Future Atomic Habits by James Clear   About Keith Robinson Keith is the co-chief executive officer of NextHome, Inc. He develops and oversees the implementation of key strategic business relationships to further our national growth. He has an extensive background in real estate, including experience in national business strategy, operations, sales training, recruitment, motivation, and effective marketing. His collaborative approach fosters the development of successful, long-term results-driven partnerships for NextHome members.   Follow Keith Website: NextHome   About Leigh Brown Leigh Brown is a leadership voice and keynote speaker who helps people navigate disruption and lead when the ground is shifting. Her latest book, Next Is Now, is a call to stop waiting and start leading. 👉 https://amzn.to/48FKenF  Bring Leigh to your stage: https://leighbrown.com DM Leigh on Instagram: @LeighThomasBrown

What if the biggest threat to your real estate business isn't the settlement… or the portals… or the headlines? What if it's the inventory you can't see? In this episode, I sat down with James Dwiggins, Co-CEO of NextHome, to talk about private listings, brokerage consolidation, and what happens when transparency starts to fracture. If you care about consumer trust, your comps, and whether you'll recognize real estate five years from now, don't sit this one out.   Key takeaways to listen for Why private listings are expanding What happens if MLS influence weakens How consolidation reshapes competition The ripple effect on appraisals and lending Why fiduciary duty must come before recruitment strategy And why leadership needs a better understanding of our industry's history   Resources mentioned in this episode National Association of REALTORS® MLS.com   About James Dwiggins James is the co-chief executive officer of NextHome, Inc. James brings to the table a sharp, innovative, and forward-focused vision. He's been in the real estate franchise business since 2006, originally joining Realty World Northern California & Nevada as director of technology and strategy, where he was promoted to vice president five years later. In May 2014, he cofounded NextHome (with Tei Baishiki) and ran both brands until 2020, when Realty World International acquired the region back. In January 2015, James (and Tei) launched NextHome as an independent national real estate franchise.   Follow James Website: NextHome   About Leigh Brown Leigh Brown is a leadership voice and keynote speaker who helps people navigate disruption and lead when the ground is shifting. Her latest book, Next Is Now, is a call to stop waiting and start leading. 👉 https://amzn.to/48FKenF   Bring Leigh to your stage: https://leighbrown.com DM Leigh on Instagram: @LeighThomasBrown

AI can write your emails and even generate art that looks real. It's fast, efficient, and impressive. But Leigh asks a harder question: what happens when convenience starts replacing presence In this episode, she wrestles with authenticity and why showing up imperfect still builds credibility. If you want to build a reputation that lasts in an automated world, this is an episode you won't want to miss!   Key takeaways to listen for Ways to use AI as a tool without letting it replace your voice Reasons authenticity builds trust faster than perfection ever will What happens when we start outsourcing our judgment How human creativity creates an emotional connection that algorithms can't replicate Why presence is your strongest business advantage   Resources mentioned in this episode Watch Upload - Season 1 | Prime Video Black Mirror (TV Series 2011– )   About Leigh Brown Leigh Brown is a leadership voice and keynote speaker who helps people navigate disruption and lead when the ground is shifting. Her latest book, Next Is Now, is a call to stop waiting and start leading. 👉 https://amzn.to/48FKenF   Bring Leigh to your stage: https://leighbrown.com DM Leigh on Instagram: @LeighThomasBrown  

The real estate industry is at a tipping point, and REALTORS® are asking hard questions about representation, relevance, and trust. In this crossover episode from Under All Is The Land (co-hosted with Rob Hahn), we unpack NAR's new strategic plan and what it signals about the future of organized real estate. This isn't a rant. It's a leadership conversation. Because when members feel unheard, strategy alone won't fix it. Whether you're fired up or simply trying to make sense of the direction of the industry, this discussion will challenge you to think bigger about professionalism, advocacy, and who the association truly serves.   Key takeaways to listen for Why the gap between REALTORS® and NAR leadership feels wider than ever What "homeownership advocacy" should mean in today's market How perception and credibility impact member trust The difference between messaging about professionalism and living it What grassroots energy could mean for the future of organized real estate   Resources mentioned in this episode National Association of REALTORS® Good Neighbor Awards REALTORS® Relief Foundation NAR Accepts Its Irrelevance, Counters with Platitudes Race for Relevance by Harrison Coerver & Mary Byers   About Under All Is The Land If you enjoy this conversation, subscribe to Under All Is The Land, where Leigh and Rob break down the policy, power, and politics shaping real estate — without spin. Watch and subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@UnderAllPodcast Referenced episode: Under All is the Land Ep. 5: The new NAR Strat Plan   About Rob Hahn Rob Hahn ("Notorious ROB") is one of real estate's most influential industry analysts, known for challenging assumptions, poking sacred cows, and pushing the business toward deeper integrity and clearer thinking. He focuses on Associations, MLS structures, governance, and the intersection of real estate and public policy.   Follow Rob YouTube: Under All Is The Land X: @robhahn   About Leigh Brown Leigh Brown is a leadership voice and keynote speaker who helps people navigate disruption and lead when the ground is shifting. Her latest book, Next Is Now, is a call to stop waiting and start leading. 👉 https://amzn.to/48FKenF Bring Leigh to your stage: https://leighbrown.com DM Leigh on Instagram: @LeighThomasBrown  

Housing has quietly become one of the most urgent issues shaping the 2026 conversation, and not for the reasons most headlines suggest. In this episode, Leigh Brown cuts through the noise to explain why affordability and availability are colliding, and what a natural disaster in Western North Carolina exposed about the gaps in housing policy. Listen in for a grounded, human view of a problem that could affect your community next.   Key takeaways to listen for The two housing pressures driving every 2026 platform How inflation and post‑recession building shortages quietly created today's housing squeeze What Hurricane Helene revealed about disaster aid, renters, and missing policy answers Why small landlords matter more to affordability than most public narratives admit A practical way housing relief could support owners, renters, and communities together   Resources mentioned in this episode FEMA HUD Patriot Relief   About Leigh Brown Leigh Brown is a leadership voice and keynote speaker who helps people navigate disruption and lead when the ground is shifting. Her latest book, Next Is Now, is a call to stop waiting and start leading. 👉 https://amzn.to/48FKenF Bring Leigh to your stage: https://leighbrown.com DM Leigh on Instagram: @LeighThomasBrown

Title insurance might seem like a formality, but what if it's the weakest link in your next transaction? In this episode, we'll chat with Andrew "Dru" Wischhover about rising fraud threats, surprising coverage gaps, and why agents need to understand what's actually being protected at the closing table. Hit play to rethink everything you thought you knew about closing a deal!   Key takeaways to listen for What title insurance really covers and why your lender requires it Real-life examples of title issues that cost buyers thousands Enhanced coverage: What it is and why you need to know about it The truth about title theft headlines vs. what really safeguards homeowners How Drew built a business that gives back to the community   Resources mentioned in this episode The Two Hour Difference by Dru Wischhover Heroes Helping Heroes   About Andrew "Dru" Wischhover Andrew (Dru) Wischhover is an entrepreneur, author, and the President and CEO of Inspired Title Group. A licensed Title Insurance Officer with over 20 years of experience, he recently led the company's expansion into the Indiana market. Dru is dedicated to mentoring his team through "The Inspired Way," a philosophy centered on community service and delivering a seamless, client-focused closing experience.   Connect with Andrew Website: Inspired Title Group LinkedIn: Andrew (Dru) Wischhover Contact Number: (708) 341-0036   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

Snowstorms, vacant land, HGTV, and city council meetings don't usually belong in the same conversation, unless you're selling real estate in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Listen in as we chat with Benjamin Argall about what it really looks like to run a brokerage and build economic momentum in one of the most challenging real estate environments in the country.   Key takeaways to listen for What does selling real estate in extreme winter conditions actually require? How an entrepreneurial mindset led from art and design to brokerage ownership Why stepping into local government changed how Ben approaches real estate The overlooked role real estate plays in small-town economic development What HGTV really teaches you about design, pressure, and decision-making   Resources mentioned in this episode NextHome Superior Living I Need Funding | Programs & Services | Michigan Business Battle on the Beach | HGTV   About Benjamin Argall Benjamin Argall is the founder of Argall Real Estate Group and NextHome Superior Living, where he specializes in blending real estate, design, and community development to revitalize Michigan's Upper Peninsula. A dedicated advocate for smart growth, Argall serves on the Ishpeming City Council and acts as President of the Upper Peninsula REALTORS®. His recent work includes the design-forward renovation of a vacant building into a modern workspace in Negaunee and the development of The Montreal, a 12-unit housing project created in partnership with state and local land banks. Through both his professional ventures and public service, Argall focuses on transforming historic sites into vibrant, livable spaces that foster stronger local economies.   Connect with Benjamin Website: Benjamin Argall Instagram: @ben_argall Contact Number: (906) 250-2874   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.

The housing market in Minnesota is changing fast with hidden forces shaping it. So in this episode, Todd Urbanski unpacks the real-world impact of NIMBY (Not In My Backyard) thinking, municipal fees, and shifting neighborhood dynamics in Minnesota. Tune in for an honest conversation that brings light to today's most pressing housing challenges.   Key takeaways to listen for What's driving the current housing tension in the Twin Cities? How immigrant communities are reshaping neighborhoods Why municipal processes often slow development and how that hurts housing supply How REALTORS® can advocate for fair planning without fueling division What civic engagement looks like when it builds community   Resources mentioned in this episode National Association of REALTORS®   About Todd Urbanski A licensed REALTOR® since 1999, Todd Urbanski leverages over two decades of experience as a top sales associate, coach, and manager to provide premier residential real estate experience in the Twin Cities. Having lived in the region for over 30 years, he utilizes an extensive professional network and deep local knowledge to deliver value that extends well beyond the initial transaction. Driven by a commitment to excellence and a goal to exceed expectations, Urbanski employs proven systems and resources to minimize the stress of moving, ultimately transforming clients into lifelong advocates and friends.   Connect with Todd LinkedIn: Todd Urbanski Contact Number: 612-865-3644   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.

What happens when housing policy collides with private property rights? We welcome back Aaron Chapman for an unfiltered conversation that challenges how we think about real estate, investing, and economic "solutions." From unsettling market shifts to uncomfortable truths few are willing to say out loud, this episode asks hard questions about ownership, risk, and the future of housing in America.   Key takeaways to listen for Reasons uncertainty (not headlines) moves real estate markets How policy changes quietly affect rents and property values What makes some rental markets far riskier than others How unconventional ownership models alter who holds the risk What experienced investors look for when stability is unclear   Resources mentioned in this episode Should Your House Be An ATM? with Aaron Chapman Confidently Buy Properties in Today's Real Estate Market with Aaron Chapman 388 - Your Wake-Up Call to Get Educated About the Lending Industry with Aaron Chapman The Peter Schiff Show Podcast   About Aaron Chapman Aaron has been a veteran in the finance industry since 1997, helping clients better understand, source, and finance cash-flow positive investment properties. He advises over 100 clients a month in the acquisition and financing of their investment properties and primary residences. Aaron is ranked in the top 1% of mortgage loan processors in the country in an industry of over 300,000 licensed loan originators, closing in excess of 100 transactions per month.   Connect with Aaron Websites: Www.AaronChapman.com | Www.QuitJerkinOff.com Instagram: @sgoc_aaron YouTube: Aaron Chapman Email: Info@aaronchapman.com    Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

Real estate wealth doesn't come from flash, it comes from strategy. In this episode, we chat with seasoned broker and investor Scott Wendl to unpack how smart investors are building long-term wealth without flipping houses. Whether you're a first-time buyer or a seasoned pro, this one's packed with perspective-shifting advice you can use today.   Key takeaways to listen for The story behind Scott's first deal and what it taught him Why Gen Z buyers are missing big opportunities right now How to help your kid buy a house A real-world example of seller financing done right One mistake that costs thousands and how to avoid it   Resources mentioned in this episode National Association of REALTORS® Certified Residential Specialist (CRS)   About Scott Wendl Scott Wendl has specialized in helping buyers & sellers maximize their real estate experience & exceed expectations since 1996. He is heavily involved in the Des Moines Association of REALTORS® & is a Past President of the Iowa Association of REALTORS®. Scott is also an advocate for protecting home ownership, as well as the real estate profession through the REALTOR® Political Action Committee while being on the Major Investor Council for National Association of REALTORS®.   Connect with Scott Website: Scottwendl.com Email: scott@scottwendl.com Contact Number: (515) 249-9225   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

Starting a new year doesn't mean you need a total life overhaul. Listen in as I talk about a powerful reframe on resolutions, encouraging you to choose one meaningful goal that reflects who you are and how you want to impact others. If you're ready to set intentions with heart and purpose this 2026, this one's for you.   Key takeaways to listen for Why choosing one focused goal can create ripple effects across your life How to set goals that are measurable and aligned with your core values The difference between speed goals and endurance goals and how to pick yours Why impact and legacy matter more than productivity in 2026 How to celebrate progress without needing anyone else's applause   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

This Christmas, give yourself the gift of rest and reflection. In this episode, I'll share a gentle reminder to give yourself permission to rest and reconnect with what matters most. Hit play and let this be your permission slip to unplug, breathe, and look up.   Key takeaways to listen for A reality check on real estate hustle culture and the fear of missing out What Christmas really means for those who feel broken or behind How rest, joy, and purpose are connected in your personal and business life The Star of Bethlehem and why you need to look up more A reminder that you are someone's joy   Connect with LeighPlease subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.

Behind closed doors, real estate isn't always what it seems. Leigh sits down with TV expert Suzanne Rocha in an in-depth conversation about how media exposure has shaped her dynamic real estate career. Listen in for real stories, smart strategies, and the kind of conversation you'll definitely remember.   Key takeaways to listen for Why some sellers prefer no signs, no open houses, and full privacy The art of choosing referral partners How to gain trust with high-net-worth clients who "know everything" What is a professional squatter and how do they remove unwanted guests? What Suzanne would fix in real estate with one magic wand   About Suzanne Rocha Suzanne has excelled throughout her career in Marketing and as a highly acclaimed Real Estate Broker. Prior to her success, Suzanne received her degree in Psychology from Holy Names University. You can instantly tell Suzanne must have been a great psychology student with her genuine listening skills and ability to make almost anyone feel comfortable.   Connect with Suzanne Website: Cal Home Instagram: @suzannerocha.tv YouTube: Suzanne Rocha Email: suzanne@calhomeinfo.com Contact Number: (800) 893-6665   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

Zillow says you're their client, but did you ever agree to that? In today's episode, Robert Arauco pulls back the curtain on how real estate data is being sliced, sold, repackaged, and leveraged against both consumers and REALTORS®. He and Leigh dig into what agents must understand about the new data battlefield, how to protect your clients' privacy, and why owning your tech is the new competitive edge.   Key takeaways to listen for One simple habit to use the tech you already pay for The problem with Zillow, Redfin, and who owns your clicks Can AI follow Fair Housing rules and who's training it? How to reframe the "I already use Zillow" conversation What happens to MLS data if the industry fractures?   Resources mentioned in this episode AI Will Never Replace a Great Negotiator with Tim Burrell   If you want to see what consumer-trusted, agent-protected tech looks like in the real world, download Leigh's One Community Real Estate® app here: 👉 https://qrco.de/onecommunity Or, if you're an agent ready to build your own branded, data-safe mobile app, book a call with Robert for a special 30% discount using this link: 👉 https://calendly.com/homestackapps/your-real-estate-app-intro-zoom-lb   About Robert Arauco Robert Arauco is the Executive Vice-President of Sales at HomeStack, a tech company empowering real estate agents with customizable mobile apps. With a background in digital marketing and a passion for privacy-first solutions, Robert helps agents build stronger client relationships through branded tech tools that prioritize data protection, personalization, and modern communication.   Connect with Robert Website: HomeStack Instagram: @hancho08 | @homestackapps LinkedIn: Robert Arauco | HomeStack YouTube: HomeStack Facebook: HomeStack Email: Robert@homestack.com  Contact Number: (949) 357-0454    Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.

Strong negotiation is still a human game, even in an AI-powered world. In this episode, Tim Burrell breaks down how the rise of digital communication and artificial intelligence is reshaping real estate negotiation, for better and worse. From smart prompts to smarter relationships, he explains why tech can boost your prep, but only empathy and emotional intelligence close the deal. Listen in to learn how to lead with people skills while staying tech-savvy!   Key takeaways to listen for Why AI can't replace emotional intelligence in real estate The negotiation missteps agents still make in digital spaces How strong relationships drive client satisfaction and repeat business What AI tools can do to help you prepare, research, and respond Why empathy and timing still win over automation   Resources mentioned in this episode The AI Negotiator by Tim Burrell National Association of REALTORS® ChatGPT Claude Prompt Cowboy Perplexity   Want to learn how to write better prompts? Email Tim at tim@timburrell.com with the subject line SUPER PROMPT.   About Tim Burrell Tim is a veteran real estate professional with more than 36 years of experience in the industry. Based in Raleigh, North Carolina with RE/MAX United, Tim brings a diverse background as a broker, general contractor, former attorney, author, and negotiation educator.   A second‑generation real estate professional, he has built a career around improving how realtors communicate and collaborate. Tim now focuses on elevating negotiation skills across the industry through his books, continuing‑education courses, and practical training on integrating AI responsibly into modern real estate practice.   Connect with Tim Website: Negotiating Consultant YouTube: Tim Burrell Facebook: Tim Burrell Email: tim@timburrell.com Contact Number: 919-812-5111   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.

Leigh Brown pulls back the curtain on the headlines shaping America's housing crisis. From 50-year mortgages and exploding insurance costs to hedge funds, foreign land ownership, and eroding property rights, she breaks down what's really driving prices and why "solutions" from banks and politicians might be making things worse. If you're serious about homeownership, investing, or just keeping the American Dream alive, this Real Talk is a must-listen.   Key takeaways to listen for Why a 50-year mortgage boosts demand and pushes prices up, not down How cheap-payment culture traps buyers in long-term debt The real impact of exploding insurance premiums and reinsurance costs How hedge funds and corporate owners shape today's housing market Why property rights are quietly shifting and what that means for homeowners   Resources mentioned in this episode Under All Is The Land - YouTube National Association of REALTORS® USAspending   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

After facing a life-altering health crisis, Michael Zinskie found himself starting over, personally and professionally. With raw honesty and a touch of humor, he shares how vulnerability, community, and sheer persistence helped him rebuild both his confidence and his business. Tune in for a conversation that might just shift how you think about success, support, and second chances.   Key takeaways to listen for Why real estate success requires community, not isolation How seizures, fear, and medication almost took Mikey out of the business The power of showing up and letting others help you rebuild What real vulnerability with clients really looks like A wild accusation at a showing that changed how Mikey works forever   Resources mentioned in this episode Aflac Golden Isles Association of REALTORS   About Michael Zinskie Mikey is a dedicated REALTOR® serving Brunswick, Georgia, and the surrounding coastal area. He launched his real estate career in North Carolina in 2005 before ultimately returning to his hometown roots. After facing and overcoming significant health struggles that temporarily put his business and independence on hold, Mikey rebuilt his career with the help of strong family bonds and community support.    Known for his honesty, warmth, and collaborative approach, Mikey brings compassion and real-life perspective to his clients, helping people navigate both real estate transitions and life's tougher moments with unwavering commitment.   Connect with Michael Instagram: @michaelzinskie Facebook: Michael Zinskie Email: mikey@hcrega.com Contact Number: (912) 602-0839   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

Is a 50-year mortgage really a step toward affordable housing or just a longer path to debt? In this rapid-fire solo episode, I'll break down why this proposed fix might cause more harm than good. Hit play to rethink what "affordable" really means.   Key takeaways to listen for Why 50-year mortgages are more about appearances than true affordability How policy changes can unintentionally inflate home prices What debt "ownership" really looks like over five decades   Resources mentioned in this episode Under All Is The Land - YouTube Debt Clock Mortgages - NerdWallet   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.  

What happens when two of real estate's most outspoken truth-tellers stop tiptoeing and start saying the quiet part out loud? Buckle up. Leigh Brown and Rob Hahn dive into the conversations the industry avoids—crime, public safety, fair housing realities, failing cities, the MLS shake-up, and what it really means to be a REALTOR® in a post-settlement era. This crossover episode from Under All Is The Land is raw, unfiltered, and guaranteed to challenge the way you think about your role, your industry, and your duty to the communities you serve. If you care about the future of real estate—or the future of your city—this is the episode you share. 👉 Enjoy the full conversation right here on Real Talk, and then make sure you subscribe to @UnderAllPodcast so you don't miss the bold, uncensored episodes Leigh and Rob release next. 🔗 https://www.youtube.com/@UnderAllPodcast   Key Moments You Don't Want to Miss Why REALTORS® MUST talk about crime and how silence harms communities Is REALTOR® a calling or a commodity? The hard truth about MLS access, value, and what comes next What the Fair Housing Act really protects and what it doesn't Why advocacy has to mean more than taxes and 1031s How patriotism, professionalism, and community protection collide in today's market   Resources mentioned in this episode The Code of Ethics Undercover investigation reveals evidence of unequal treatment by Long Island real estate agents - Newsday Civil Rights Division | The Fair Housing Act   About Rob Hahn Rob focuses on Associations, Multiple Listing Services, and Technology. With a profound love for the real estate industry, Rob has been challenging the status quo and empowering companies to operate beyond ordinary commerce.   Follow Rob YouTube: Under All Is The Land X: @robhahn   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on your favorite podcast app at https://pod.link/1153262163, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown.