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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change podcast, where we dive deep into the complexities of managing organisational change. Tailored for leaders, change practitioners, and anyone driving transformation, our episodes explore key topics like leadership, communication, change capability, and process design. Expert guests share practical strategies and insights to help you navigate and lead successful change initiatives. Listen in to learn fresh ideas and perspectives from a variety of industries, and gain the tools and knowledge you need to lead transformation with confidence. Explore our episodes at www.theinnergameofchange.com.au, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Youtube or anywhere you listen to your podcasts.
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Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking behind the doing of change. In this episode, I am joined by Ross Dawson—futurist, keynote speaker, and author of five influential books, including Thriving on Overload and Developing Knowledge-Based Client Relationships. Ross is known globally for his work at the intersection of foresight, networked systems, and human–AI collaboration. We unpack what it really means to lead in a world where AI is no longer just a tool, bu...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change. where we explore the thinking behind the doing of change. In this episode, we turn our attention to something that is reshaping every part of our work — artificial intelligence. Not as a headline or a fear, but as a companion in how we learn, decide, and lead. My guest, Joanne Rinaldi, brings a wealth of experience leading enterprise transformation and building centres of excellence that help people think and perform differently. She has spent years helpin...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, where we explore the invisible forces that shape the way we lead, live, and learn, because real change, as you and I know, always starts on the inside. In this episode of The Inner Game of Change, I speak with Soraya Espejo — a global transformation strategist, MIT-certified AI and Future of Work advisor, and Founder of Changics. Soraya has worked across more than fifty countries helping leaders and organisations prepare for what’s next. Our co...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, where we explore the invisible forces that shape the way we lead, live, and learn, because real change, as you and I know, always starts on the inside. Today, I am joined by Lindsay Phillips. Lindsay is the founder of SkyPhi Studios, a Forbes contributor, and a seasoned change leader who has helped organisations realise the true value of their digital investments. Her work spans leadership coaching, culture change, and program management—always...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, where we explore the invisible forces that shape the way we lead, live, and learn, because real change, as you and I know, always starts on the inside. My guest today is Dr Amy Silver; a clinical psychologist, author, speaker, and a masterful thinker when it comes to fear, patterns, and performance. In this episode, Amy and I explore the idea of fear as the loudest guest in the room—an ever-present voice that can either protect or paralyse us. We tal...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. Each episode is a chance to learn from thinkers, doers, and everyday leaders about what really makes change work — and what keeps it human. My guest is Rebecca Bultsma — an AI ethics researcher, power user, and someone who lives in that space between awe and dread of what AI can do. Rebecca has built her career helping le...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. Every so often, I like to step outside and look at what I call the Outer Game of Change—that wider perspective where leaders and influencers shape the systems we all work within. Today, I am joined by Greg Sawyer, CEO of CAUDIT, the Council of Australasian University Directors of IT. Greg has been at the centre of some of...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. On today’s episode, I am speaking with someone who is not just talking about fixing higher education; she is building a new one from the ground up. Sasha Thackaberry-Voinovich is a change maker in every sense of the word. As Founder and President of Newstate University, a skills-first, competency-based online university, ...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. In this episode, I am joined by James Stevenson, Principal at Kaizen Institute Western Europe. James brings clarity, calm, and sharp thinking to the world of continuous improvement. We talk about what Kaizen truly is (and what it is not), why it starts with the customer, not the process, and how so many change effor...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. In this episode, I sit down with Dr Jonathan Thorp; a former Navy pilot turned leadership educator—to unpack one of the most vital ingredients of effective teams: psychological safety. From the boardroom to the break room, we explore what makes conversations feel safe, why trust must precede truth-telling, and how safety ...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. Today, I’m joined by Bronwyn Penhaligon — a strategic psychotherapist who helps people and teams get unstuck by tackling the emotional loops and environmental triggers that hold them back. In this conversation, we unpack burnout — how it’s different from stress, why it’s rising, and what both leaders and individuals can d...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. In this episode, I am joined by the insightful and bold Amy Yackowski—founder of Painted Porch Strategies and a passionate advocate for building shift-ready teams and leaders. Together, we dive into the critical, often overlooked period before change officially begins—a space Amy calls Phase Zero. Long before the project ...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. In today’s episode, we explore a powerful way of thinking and working that helps people navigate complexity, solve tough problems, and grow through structured learning — the Improvement Kata. My guest is Tracy Defoe — a lifelong adult educator, Kata coach, and passionate advocate for deliberate, reflective learning at work. Bas...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast where we explore the unseen forces that shape how we lead, adapt, and thrive in the face of change and transformation. In this episode, I am joined by someone who’s been on the frontlines of organisational culture in some of the world’s most recognisable companies — Mehmet Baha, author of the newly released book Creating Psychological Safety at Work. Baha is the founder of Solution Folder and has over 24 years of experience working with top org...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast that explores the evolving landscape of change management, leadership, and transformation. In today’s episode, I’m thrilled to be joined by Susan Zhang, a creative technologist, author, and global thought leader. From her beginnings in China to her journey as an international student in Australia, Susan has embraced the discomfort of change to unlock personal and professional growth. We dive deep into topics like the power of stepping outside y...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast that explores the evolving landscape of change management, leadership, and transformation. Today, I am chatting with Ian Heard Director of Public Sector Modern Work at Microsoft ANZ — a leader who is right at the heart of how AI is reshaping the way we work. In this episode, we talk about the real story behind GenAI Copilot, what change looks like inside Microsoft, and why the role of a change manager might just be turning into a “Chief E...
Welcome to a very special mini-series on The Inner Game of Change. I’m thrilled to take you on this journey as we explore something both timeless and practical: Mental Models for Managing Change. In this episode, we explore a model that helps us look beyond what is visible in times of change: the Iceberg Model. Often, we respond to what we can see on the surface — missed deadlines, disengaged teams, unexpected resistance. But, as with an iceberg, most of the real forces driving those outcomes...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast that explores the evolving landscape of change management, leadership, and transformation. In this episode, I’m joined by the remarkable Karen Ball, Senior Fellow at Prosci and author of The ADKAR Advantage: Your New Lens for Successful Change. Released in April 2024, Karen’s book offers a fresh and practical take on navigating change by embracing the power of the Prosci ADKAR Model. With over 40 years of experience, Karen has helped countles...
Welcome to the podcast that explores the evolving landscape of change management, leadership, and transformation. In today’s episode, I’m thrilled to be joined by Mark Abraham, Managing Director at Boston Consulting Group (BCG) and author of the bestselling HBR book, Personalized: Customer Strategy in the Age of AI. With over 20 years of experience, Mark has worked closely with global CEOs, CMOs, and CXOs, helping them tackle complex business challenges and deliver breakthrough 1:1 customer e...
Welcome to The Inner Game of Change, the podcast that explores the evolving landscape of change management, leadership, and transformation. In today's episode, I am joined by Lisa Carlin, a strategy execution expert, to dive into one of the biggest conversations in business today; AI strategy and adoption. With the AI hype everywhere, how can organizations separate signals from the noise and make smart strategic decisions? Lisa brings her deep expertise to help us cut through the...
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