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From Betrayal To Breakthrough
Author: Dr. Debi Silber
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The betrayal of a family member, partner, friend, etc. can create physical, mental and emotional challenges. If left unhealed, it impacts us personally and professionally. The From Betrayal to Breakthrough podcast shares insights from the best therapists, coaches, healers, thought leaders and everyday people, combined with the findings of a recent Ph.D. study on betrayal to help you move forward and heal...once and for all.
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Dr. Debi Silber, founder of the PBT® Institute, shares groundbreaking research on betrayal recovery and introduces the #1 betrayal recovery certification program specifically designed to help coaches, practitioners, and healthcare professionals guide clients through healing from betrayal. Key Topics Covered The Hidden Impact of Unhealed Betrayal How unhealed betrayal shows up in relationships through repeat patterns or emotional walls The connection between betrayal and stress-related health conditions Impact on workplace performance, confidence, and decision-making Three Groundbreaking Discoveries Discovery #1: Betrayal is Different Unlike other traumas, betrayal shatters the sense of self Affects trust, confidence, worthiness, and belonging in unique ways Requires a specialized healing approach Discovery #2: PBS® Post Betrayal Syndrome® A documented collection of physical, mental, and emotional symptoms Based on over 100,000 data points Time alone doesn't heal these symptoms Discovery #3: Five Proven Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough Predictable pathway from pain to transformation Clear markers at each stage Specific strategies to progress through healing Statistics on How Betrayal Affects Work Performance 84% struggle with trust (impacts collaboration and teamwork) 88% experience extreme sadness (reduces motivation and creativity) 68% cannot focus or concentrate (decreases productivity) 78% feel overwhelmed (increases mistakes and burnout risk) 83% carry significant anger (creates workplace conflict) 47% develop weight and digestive issues These symptoms persist regardless of when the betrayal occurred The Transformation Model Using the house metaphor: betrayal isn't about restoring what was (resilience), it's about rebuilding something entirely new (transformation) Who This Certification Serves Life, health, business, and leadership coaches Therapists, counselors, and psychologists HR professionals and organizational leaders Healers and practitioners Anyone working with clients affected by broken trust The Certification Program Self-paced training on the Five Stages Includes the signature "Betrayal to Breakthrough" program Case study work and practical coaching tools Provides coach or practitioner designation ICF continuing education credits available Additional Growth Opportunity: PBT Pro Monthly membership offering: Live business-building sessions with Dr. Debi Legal support and protections Marketing and scaling strategies Client scenario coaching Guidance on podcasting, speaking, publishing, and more Resources Mentioned PBT® Institute Certification: thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified From Betrayal to Breakthrough Podcast (top 1.5% globally) National Forgiveness Day (September 1st annually) Key Takeaways Betrayal creates unique symptoms that persist until deliberately healed Most people stay stuck in Stage 3 without proper guidance Healing is predictable and achievable with the right framework Specializing in betrayal recovery creates opportunities to serve an underserved population This work complements existing coaching practices rather than replacing them Special Bonuses Mentioned Featured listing in coaching directory Guest appearance on From Betrayal to Breakthrough podcast In-person retreat ticket ($1,800 value for PBT® Pro members) Five ready-to-use client assessments Legal disclaimer templates For more information about becoming certified in Post Betrayal Transformation, visit thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified
In this transformative episode, host Dr. Debi Silber sits down with spiritual guide Panache Desai to challenge everything we've been taught about success, fulfillment, and self-worth. If you've achieved success by traditional standards but still feel unfulfilled, this conversation will completely shift your perspective. Key Topics Covered: Redefining Success Why material success often leads to depression, addiction, and unfulfillment The true meaning of success: being at peace with yourself How we've been sold a false bill of goods about where fulfillment comes from The Inside-Out Approach Why looking outside ourselves for love, security, and happiness never works The illusion of external authority and how it betrays us from birth Why you are already the source of everything you're seeking The Betrayal Experience How betrayal serves as a catalyst for redirecting attention back to ourselves Why we've only ever betrayed ourselves by making others the source of our fulfillment Understanding that betrayal is the ultimate initiation into self-discovery Acceptance as the Key Why "working on yourself" keeps you distanced from your truth The revolutionary practice of accepting your emotions, thoughts, and humanity How acceptance is the entry point into genuine self-love The Conditioning Crisis How women are especially programmed to sacrifice themselves for others Why the framework of living for everyone else is the ultimate betrayal Breaking free from the martyrdom archetype Parenting and Authenticity Teaching children that their uniqueness is their superpower Why conformity in education dulls our natural gifts The parenting-as-gardening approach: nurturing without controlling outcomes Moving Beyond Victim Consciousness Accepting powerlessness over the past as the path to infinite power in the present Why everything that happened was actually perfect for your evolution The importance of commitment, consistency, and repetition in transformation The Golden Buddha Within Removing the layers of others' projections and interpretations Recognizing you're not broken, flawed, or in need of fixing Living from the truth of who you really are Powerful Quotes: "Success means to be at peace. If you're at peace with yourself, then you're successful." "We've only ever betrayed ourselves, and that betrayal began in the moment that we made someone else the source of the love, the source of the security, the source of the safety." "You're adorable, you're loved. There's nothing wrong with you. You're not broken. You don't have to be fixed or changed or improved." "The only way to be done with the trauma of the past is to accept it, to embrace the fact that it happened—it's not good, it's not bad, it's not right, it's not wrong, it just happened." Resources: Visit panachedesai.com to join Panache's free daily meditation "Call to Calm" - now 1570+ days running since the pandemic began. The PBT Institute — programs, coaches, community: https://thepbtinstitute.com/ Corporate/HR offerings & talks: https://thepbtinstitute.com/corporate Work with Dr. Debi and her amazing PBT Coaches: https://thepbtinstitute.com/transform/
In this powerful episode, we welcome Dr. Alman, co-creator of the groundbreaking ACE (Adverse Childhood Experiences) study, to discuss trauma, betrayal, and the path to healing. Dr. Alman shares insights from decades of work with Kaiser Permanente and explains why all trauma contains elements of betrayal. Key Topics Discussed The Origins of the ACE Study How the study began through Kaiser Permanente's weight loss program Dr. Alman's work with patients trying to lose 50-200+ pounds The surprising discovery that successful weight loss patients were gaining weight back Collaboration with Dr. Felitti and Dr. Robert Anda to develop the 10 core questions Understanding Trauma and Betrayal Core principle: All trauma is betrayal - it involves people we trusted who didn't have our backs Trauma comes from family members, partners, friends, grandparents, or anyone we depended on The weight-protection mechanism: How people use weight to protect themselves from harm The 10 Core ACE Questions (and Beyond) The original 10 questions identify the most common childhood traumas Sexual abuse: Found in close to 60% of women in the weight loss program Neglect: Particularly common among men whose fathers were absent or overworked The list is not exhaustive - many other traumas exist The 11th and 12th Questions-important inclusions to access additional information The Inner Critic Problem The perfectionist inner judge that becomes a "lifetime member" of your psyche How childhood conditioning creates an inner critic that fights with our emotions The futility of trying to eliminate the inner critic Why therapy alone often isn't enough to resolve this internal conflict Coping Mechanisms and Addiction The dosage principle: Like aspirin, coping mechanisms are about dosage - some is helpful, too much is harmful Common coping strategies: food, work, exercise, drugs, alcohol High achievers and entrepreneurs often use success as a distraction The driven CEO who feels "empty and betrayed on the inside" How seemingly "healthy" distractions like work and exercise can mask deeper issues The Path to Healing The Three-Step Process: Awareness - Answer the 12 ACE questions Bridge-building - Awareness alone isn't enough; you must build bridges, not walls Root cause healing - Access your inner wisdom beneath the trauma Key Principles: Your emotions are bridges, not obstacles Your inner critic can be worked with, not eliminated Everyone has inner wisdom - "the gold underneath all that lead" Healing requires going deeper than emotions, judgment, and childhood conditioning The goal is to utilize your trauma and betrayal as tools for growth Featured Resource Enlight App - Developed by Dr. Alman and Dr. Felitti to help people connect with their inner wisdom daily, utilizing emotions, judgments, and childhood experiences as tools for healing rather than obstacles to overcome. Key Takeaways The ACE study has reached 100 countries and millions of people worldwide 20% of people use 80% of healthcare services, often due to unresolved trauma Trauma manifests in physical symptoms: stomach aches, back pain, weight issues, autoimmune illnesses, migraines, depression, and anxiety Everyone's trauma experience is unique, even when ACE scores are similar Healing isn't about getting rid of parts of yourself - it's about integration and working with all aspects of who you are You can't "get rid" of your inner critic any more than you can remove the rings from a tree The path forward involves accepting, reassuring, and connecting with all parts of yourself Notable Quotes "All trauma is betrayal, because it's people we trusted, people we hoped would have our back, would take care of us." "Awareness is great. It's a bridge, but it's not enough." "The inner critic has a lifetime membership - you might as well learn how to work with it." "Everybody has inner wisdom. It's probably real deep, deeper than you've ever gone, deeper than your emotions, deeper than your judge, deeper than your perfectionist." "Two aspirin will help you, 100 will kill you. Same thing with coping mechanisms - it's all about dosage." Connect with Dr. Alman Download the Enlightn app for support (you can also go to enlightn.me) and for more information about the ACE Study and access to the assessment questions, visit https://drbrianalman.com. To learn more about healing from betrayal trauma, visit https://thepbtinstitute.com. Discover the groundbreaking ACE Study with co-creator Dr. Alman. Learn why all trauma is betrayal, the 11th and 12th ACE questions, how to work with your inner critic, and the proven path to healing childhood trauma and adverse experiences. ACE study, adverse childhood experiences, childhood trauma, betrayal trauma, Dr. Alman, trauma healing, inner critic, emotional healing, Kaiser Permanente, sexual abuse recovery, weight loss and trauma, coping mechanisms, root cause healing, PTSD, childhood neglect, inner wisdom, trauma awareness, perfectionism, self-healing, Enlightn app
In this deeply insightful episode, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with addiction expert Amber Hollingsworth to explore the complex intersection between betrayal and addiction—and the impact it has on partners, families, and loved ones. Amber, who grew up in a family affected by addiction and went on to dedicate her career to helping families heal, shares raw and eye-opening truths about how addiction patterns form, why partners often become "the villain" in the addicted person's story, and how to strategically navigate the balance between compassion and boundaries without losing yourself in the process. Together, Debi and Amber unpack how betrayal shows up through addiction—whether it's substances, behaviors, or emotional disconnection—and what it takes to stop enabling, break the cycle, and create the conditions for real recovery. 🧩 Key Topics Covered: Amber's personal story of growing up in an addicted family and how it shaped her life's work. The hidden connection between betrayal trauma and addiction—and why family members often carry the deepest wounds. Why partners of addicts often become "the villain" in the story and how to reverse that dynamic. The psychology of enabling—and how to stop protecting your loved one from the consequences they need to face. The painful balance between love and accountability: how to let them fall without losing yourself. What it really means to "hit bottom" (and why you don't have to wait for it). How empathy, not anger, activates the brain's learning center and creates the possibility of change. How to stay grounded, maintain your boundaries, and heal your own betrayal trauma—even while someone you love is still struggling. The difference between fast-track addictions (like cocaine) and slow-burn addictions (like alcohol or marijuana), and how each impacts relationships differently. How "trickle truths" and hidden addictions re-traumatize betrayed partners over time. Why self-care and detachment aren't selfish—they're essential for clarity, health, and long-term healing. 🧠 Key Insights: "When you grow up around addiction, rebellion sometimes looks like choosing to live differently." "You're not powerless. You can't control your loved one, but you can influence the system they're in." "When you stop being the villain in their story, the world becomes the mirror that shows them the truth." "Empathy activates learning. Anger activates defense." "Every time you protect someone from their consequences, you're protecting them from their transformation." 💬 Memorable Quotes: "Self-pity and resentment are how addiction lives. Until that dynamic changes, recovery can't begin." — Amber Hollingsworth "We can't build anything stable on a cracked foundation of deception. Every 'trickle truth' is another trauma." — Dr. Debi Silber "You don't have to wait until someone hits bottom. They can put the shovel down at any time." — Amber Hollingsworth 🔧 Practical Takeaways: Stop enabling — Let natural consequences teach what words cannot. Stay in your lane — You're responsible for your peace, not their choices. Lead with empathy — It's the only tone that keeps the door open for change. Don't hide behind "helping" — Over-functioning feeds denial. Focus on your stage of healing — Take care of yourself before you decide what's next. 🌿 About Amber Hollingsworth: Amber Hollingsworth is a master addiction counselor, family recovery specialist, and founder of the YouTube channel Put the Shovel Down, where she educates families on how to break the patterns of enabling and codependency that keep addiction alive. Drawing from her own lived experience in an addicted family and decades of clinical practice, Amber brings clarity, compassion, and concrete strategies for real change. 👉 Watch Amber's videos: Put the Shovel Down on YouTube 🎧 Listen to This Episode If… You've been betrayed by someone struggling with addiction. You're trying to help a loved one but feel stuck, angry, or powerless. You're tired of living in cycles of hope and disappointment. You want to understand how to support someone in recovery without losing yourself. Resources & links The PBT Institute — programs, coaches, community: https://thepbtinstitute.com/ Corporate/HR offerings & talks: https://thepbtinstitute.com/corporate Work with Dr. Debi and her amazing PBT Coaches: https://thepbtinstitute.com/transform/
In this solo episode, Dr. Debi shares 11 anonymized, real-world scenarios showing how unhealed betrayal quietly derails performance, leadership, health, and culture at work. From weight changes and gut issues to micromanagement, perfectionism, disengagement, and self-betrayal, you'll see how a personal rupture (even years old) can surface on the job—and what to do about it. You'll also hear research-backed prevalence stats (weight, gut, sleep) and a clear invitation to move from Stages 2–3 (shock and survival) into Stages 4–5 (healing and growth). Who this episode is for Professionals, leaders, and founders who feel "off" at work and can't trace why HR/people leaders noticing unexplained dips in performance, morale, or collaboration Anyone who suspects an earlier betrayal might still be shaping today's choices, health, and capacity Key concepts & signals Betrayal shows up at work physically (weight, gut, sleep), mentally (focus, overthinking), emotionally (hypervigilance, distrust). Nervous system hijack: After broken trust, people often swing to micromanagement, second-guessing, isolation, or over-preparation. Stages matter: Creativity, confidence, and connection typically reliably return as you move into Stages 4–5 of the 5-Stage model. Research snapshots (from Debi's community data): Weight/eating struggles: ~47% Gut issues (IBS/Crohn's/constipation/diarrhea): ~45% Sleep problems: ~68% Case snapshots (anonymized) Sarah — Weight & confidence spiral Discovery of husband + best friend affair → stress eating → +40 lbs, pre-diabetes, energy crash. Missed two promotions; client-facing confidence plummeted. Marcus — Gut & career derailment Brother's $50k "investment" betrayal (borrowed from 401k) → nausea → IBS, 30 missed days in 6 months, $12k out-of-pocket care → transfer to lower-paying support role. Jennifer — From empowering to micromanaging Daughter's addiction/deceit eroded trust → hypervigilance, excessive approvals, morale drop → $30k demotion. David — Cultural catalyst to clock-watcher Father covertly rewrote will for estranged sister → emotional numbness → stopped mentoring/initiatives → ~25% drop in departmental satisfaction. Lisa — Anxiety, over-prep, stalled growth Fiancé + maid of honor affair weeks before wedding → panic in meetings, medical leave, therapy costs → over-preparation and hesitation → lost Senior Manager promotion. Tom — Creativity collapse Close friend's emotional affair with his partner during family caregiving → withdrew creative risk-taking → lost edge in pitches → 3 major accounts (~$2M) missed. Rachel — Sleepless CEO Sister's manipulation of elderly mother & finances → insomnia, ruminations → poorer board-level decisions, investor strain, performance dip; sleep meds added side-effects. Kevin — Isolation after double betrayal Wife left for best friend → withdrew from people, closed-door leadership → cross-functional effectiveness down ~40%; silos and delays multiplied. Maria — Paralysis by over-analysis Business + romantic partner embezzled to fund secret life → hyper-checking, documentation glut → missed time-sensitive opportunities; costly lost trading advantage. Robert — Purpose lost, pipeline thins Adult son (aided by brother) sued him for "emotional damages" → quit mentoring/junior development → leadership pipeline weakened; burnout → early retirement. Andrea (self-betrayal) — Successful but misaligned Pressured away from teaching into law → chronic fatigue, migraines, disengagement, ~30% billable drop, ~$800k lost potential revenue → leave of absence. The cost wasn't only professional—it was existential. How to spot it (self-check) "I don't recognize how I lead or work anymore." (micromanaging, over-prepping, perfectionism) "My body is louder than my calendar." (gut flares, migraines, insomnia before big decisions) "I'm here but not really here." (numbness, disengagement, loss of initiative/mentoring) "I don't trust my read on people." (multiple confirmations for simple tasks, second-guessing) "I'm productive—but always late." (hyper-vigilant thoroughness that kills timeliness) "I'm successful—and empty." (self-betrayal: achievement without meaning) Try this: 6 reflection prompts Which case felt uncomfortably familiar—and why? Where does betrayal show up most for you: body, mind, or relationships at work? What do you over-do (control, analyze, isolate) to feel safer—and what does it cost? Which responsibility did you stop (mentoring, initiating, pitching) after the rupture? What would "Stage 4–5 me" do differently this week? If self-betrayal is the theme, what small act of alignment could you take in 72 hours? If you lead a team (HR, managers, execs) Watch for sudden style flips (empowering → micromanaging; creative → conventional). Replace "performance policing" with support + boundaries (clear priorities, fewer approvals, flexible micro-rest). Offer psychological safety + access to evidence-based healing resources; normalize PTO for real recovery. Protect culture carriers (your "Davids")—and rebuild when they dim. Practical next steps Name it: If you recognized yourself, that's progress. Assess: Take the Post Betrayal Syndrome® indicators seriously (weight, gut, sleep). Stabilize the body: Basic routines (sleep hygiene, hydration, movement) reduce reactivity. Skill up: Learn boundaries, rebuild self-trust, and pace decisions during healing. Advance stages: If you're in Stages 2–3, get guided support to move into 4–5, where creativity, confidence, and connection reliably return. Share back: Tell Dr. Debi which story resonated most; it helps tailor future episodes. Memorable lines "We can try to leave betrayal at the door—but our body and leadership bring it to work." "Micromanagement is often a trust injury in disguise." "Success that betrays you is still betrayal." Resources & links The PBT Institute — programs, coaches, community: https://thepbtinstitute.com/ Corporate/HR offerings & talks: https://thepbtinstitute.com/corporate/ Tell Dr. Debi which scenario hit home for you, and what you'll try this week. See you next time.
Betrayal shakes our sense of safety and self-trust—and that lights up fear. In this conversation, fear researcher and author Dr. Mary Poffenroth breaks fear down into plain language and gives you practical, physiology-first tools to calm the brain in the moment. We cover how fear hijacks the amygdala (your alarm system), how to bring the prefrontal cortex (clear thinking) back online, and how to tell the difference between fictional fears (rumination, future-tripping) and non-fictional fears (real, in-the-moment cues). You'll leave with quick exercises you can do anywhere—no apps, no gear, no supplements. What we cover Why high-achievers and "head types" often research their feelings instead of feeling them—and how that becomes a hidden avoidance loop. How fear shows up after betrayal: fear of change, of the unknown, of failure and success, and the loss of control those trigger. The RAIN framework to move through fear step by step: Recognize, Assign, Identify, Navigate. Two fast neurohacks you can use anywhere: Pinch the Valley: massage the meaty point between thumb and index finger to stimulate the vagus nerve and down-shift arousal. Near & Far (convergence drill): track a finger/pen from arm's length to your nose and back to engage convergence and cue parasympathetic "rest & digest." The nervous-system bus: only one driver at a time (sympathetic fight/flight vs. parasympathetic rest/digest) and how to switch drivers on purpose. Fictional vs. non-fictional fear (sometimes called "dirty vs. clean" in the literature): how to stop feeding rumination and respond to real-time signals. The two big "buckets" behind most fictional fears: "I'm not enough" and "I'm losing control." How labeling one calms the spiral. Try-it-now tools (step-by-step) Pinch the Valley (vagus nerve reset) Make an "L" with one hand (thumb + index). With the other hand's thumb and index, massage the firm, meaty point where the thumb and index finger bones meet (below the web). 30–60 seconds per hand while breathing slowly. Expect a subtle down-shift in agitation; repeat as needed. Near & Far (convergence reset) Hold a finger or pen at arm's length; softly focus on it. Slowly bring it toward the bridge of your nose until it blurs/doubles, then return to arm's length. Repeat 5–8 times to help re-engage focus and cue parasympathetic tone. RAIN (micro-walkthrough) Recognize: Name the body cues (tight jaw, racing heart). Assign: "This is fear arousal." (Not anger, not shame—fear.) Identify: Is this fictional (story/rumination) or non-fictional (real cue)? If fictional, which bucket: not enough or loss of control? Navigate: Pick one action (boundary, breath, call a friend, make the ask). Notable quotes "We spend so much time pretending fear doesn't exist—and that just drives it underground." —Dr. Mary "When the amygdala is lit, the prefrontal cortex goes dim. Get your body safe first; the smart ideas return second." "Healthy distractions—work, fitness, staying busy—can still be avoidance." "Label it: fictional or non-fictional. Then choose a move." —Dr. Mary "What we feed grows. Let's feed courage with small, repeatable actions." Who this episode is for Anyone navigating betrayal who feels stuck between fear and next steps. Practitioners and leaders who need simple, teachable fear tools. High-performers who think their feelings and want body-based resets. Resources & guest links Dr. Mary Poffenroth — official site (book, speaking, downloads). Mary Poffenroth Brave New You (book) — science-backed strategies, tools, and neurohacks to live more courageously. RAIN Method & Neurohacking Downloads (infographic + mini-deck). Mary Poffenroth Resources Post Betrayal Syndrome Quiz: Learn if you have been impacted by a past betrayal. For the betrayed – Reclaim: Heal from your betrayal and take your life back. If this helped, share it with someone who's rebuilding after betrayal. Try one tool today (20–60 seconds), then repeat tomorrow. Small reps build big courage.
Family betrayal cuts deeper than almost any other wound. These are the very people we expect to love, guide, and protect us—and when they break that trust, the pain is overwhelming and confusing. In this episode, Dr. Debi Silber explores how early family betrayals shape our beliefs, relationships, health, and work. She shares her own personal story of family betrayal, how she questioned the beliefs she was raised with, and how breaking those patterns became the foundation for her healing and her life's work. Dr. Debi also highlights the journey of a PBT member who discovered how guilt and manipulation had silently dictated her family dynamics for decades—and what happens when those tactics stop working. This conversation sheds light on: Why family betrayal can feel so disorienting and devastating. The progression from "It must be me" → "Maybe it's not me." "What if it's them?" → "It's them." How beliefs formed in childhood can carry into adult relationships, health, and career. The painful but powerful process of setting new boundaries, even when it means losing relationships. Why betrayal often gets worse before it gets better when you change the rules. The ripple effects of unhealed early betrayal, including repeat betrayals, health struggles, and workplace challenges. What changes when you do the work to heal, rebuild, and move through the 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough. Through her personal experiences and decades of research, Dr. Debi shows why cleaning up these early betrayals is essential to living a life that is healthy, fulfilling, and aligned with your true worth. ✨ Resources & Links Mentioned in This Episode Learn more about the 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough inside the Reclaim program: thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim Coaches & practitioners: explore how to add betrayal recovery to your toolkit in the Certification Masterclass: thepbtinstitute.com/certification-masterclass 💡 Key Takeaway: When you stop believing betrayal was your fault and begin rewriting the rules, you open the door to healing, stronger relationships, and a life built on self-worth and boundaries.
In this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Tim Wienecke, Air Force veteran, licensed clinician, and host of American Masculinity. Tim brings a rare and necessary perspective on the often-overlooked intersection of men, betrayal, and moral injury—a form of trauma that arises when individuals are forced to act against their own values, often within systems they once trusted. Together, we explore: What moral injury is and how it differs from (yet intertwines with) betrayal trauma. How men process betrayal differently from women, often turning to control or isolation instead of vulnerability. The heavy repercussions of military service, including drone operations, systemic failures, and the lifelong burden of collateral consequences. The side-by-side bonding style of men and why creating safe, non-confrontational spaces is critical for healing. The difference between boundaries and control—and why confusing the two can lead to unhealthy, even abusive, dynamics. How shame operates as a silencer for men and why true healing requires trusted groups who can reflect compassion and accountability. Practical tools for supporting men through betrayal, including reflective listening, meeting them in their own language (emotional, kinetic, or thought-based), and recognizing control behaviors early. Tim also shares deeply personal insights from his own service, how he came to understand moral injury in his work with veterans and first responders, and why America's conversation around masculinity needs far more nuance than the oversimplified narratives we often hear. Whether you're a clinician, a partner, or someone healing from betrayal yourself, this conversation opens up vital new ways of understanding how men carry trauma, how it shows up, and what can truly help them heal. Learn More About Tim Wienecke Visit americanmasculinity.com for his counseling services, podcast, and tools designed for men navigating betrayal, moral injury, and masculinity in today's world. More Resources The PBT Institute: Break free from the pain of betrayal and find safety, love, and trust again. For the betrayed – Reclaim: Heal from your betrayal and take your life back. For the betrayer – Rebuild: Heal yourself and help heal the heart you broke. Take the Post Betrayal Syndrome Quiz – Post-Betrayal Syndrome Quiz
From gang life and juvenile detention to martial arts mastery and life coaching - Sensei Dave Armstrong's journey is a testament to human resilience. After facing prostate cancer at 50 and experiencing profound betrayal when his wife of 11 years left during his darkest hour, Dave shares the powerful tools that helped him rebuild and find hope again. Living retired in Greece with an ocean view, he now dedicates his life to helping others transform their trauma into strength. Sensei Dave Armstrong is a resilience coach, martial arts instructor, author, and motivational speaker. Having overcome gang involvement, foster care, juvenile detention, and illiteracy, Dave now lives in Greece and helps others navigate life's most challenging moments. He's the author of "Why Me, My Fight for Life" and holds a degree in psychology. Key Takeaways The Power of Perspective "Why not you?" - We're not exempt from life's challenges, and that's okay Trauma can either define you negatively or fuel your growth - you choose Building internal strength is like developing a muscle - it requires consistent practice Boundaries as Non-Negotiables Clear boundaries prevent neediness from driving poor decisions Some boundaries have no margin for compromise Weak boundaries create unnecessary chaos in your life The Healing Process Don't rush to fill voids with new relationships during healing Allow yourself to feel difficult emotions without forcing solutions Have multiple "tools" ready for different emotional scenarios Building Resilience Through Mentorship Quality mentors can change the trajectory of your entire life Hope is the foundation for all positive change Self-confidence develops through successfully navigating challenges Notable Quotes "I was never hopeless. I was always hopeful. And that's what I try to instill - because even if you don't have the skill sets, there's hope to acquire and change." "We have agency over our response to trauma. Why not choose the positive impact rather than the negative?" "I see the God in everyone. Unfortunately, life will start to hit us and we'll harden our shell. But you can't get out of what you've built to protect yourself." Timestamps [00:00] Introduction to Sensei Dave Armstrong [05:30] Cancer diagnosis and betrayal story [12:15] Childhood trauma and gang involvement [18:45] The mentors who saved his life [25:20] Developing resilience as a skill [32:10] Setting and maintaining boundaries [38:45] The healing journey after betrayal [44:30] Current life philosophy and message Resources Book: "Why Me, My Fight for Life" by Dave Armstrong Website: www.senseidave.com One-on-one coaching: upna.net Instagram: @MrMotivation ThePBTInstitute.com The PBT Institute Certification Program
When betrayal and divorce collide, the emotional toll is staggering—but the financial consequences can be just as devastating. In this candid and deeply informative episode, Dr. Debi sits down with financial strategist and divorce expert Gabriella Martinelli to unpack one of the most overlooked yet critical aspects of betrayal recovery: understanding and managing your money when trust has been shattered. With over 20 years of experience in the legal and financial world, Gabriella has guided countless clients through high-stakes divorces—many complicated by hidden spending, concealed accounts, and the gut-punch of financial infidelity. She explains why divorce is not just a legal process, but also a financial untangling that demands clarity, documentation, and strategic thinking—especially when betrayal is part of the story. You'll learn: The double impact of betrayal and divorce — how emotional pain clouds financial decisions, and why clarity is your most valuable asset. What financial infidelity really looks like — from hidden credit cards and drained savings to funds spent on an affair partner. Why anger-driven decisions can sabotage your future — and how to shift your focus from revenge to building a secure next chapter. The role of mistrust in decision-making — and why even hard data can feel impossible to believe after betrayal. Steps to take immediately — including how to gather financial records, understand your credit report, and identify accounts you didn't know existed. The importance of a multidisciplinary "divorce team" — legal, financial, and emotional support working together to protect your best interests. Gabriella shares powerful real-life stories—from clients paralyzed by suspicion, to those who risked their future on proving a point, to those who found the strength to pivot toward empowerment instead. She also dismantles the Hollywood myth of "getting your day in court" and the cathartic speech that makes the betrayer pay—revealing the practical reality of how courts actually operate. If you've been blindsided by betrayal, are navigating divorce, or suspect financial infidelity, this conversation offers both hard truths and hope. Gabriella and Dr. Debi walk you through the mindset shifts, tactical steps, and strategic support you need to move forward—not just financially stable, but emotionally stronger and in control of your next chapter. Resources: Gabriella's site: https://www.everafterwealth.com Gabriella's email: gabriella@everafterwealth.com The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim The Rebuild Program (For those who betrayed and want to heal): https://thepbtinstitute.com/rebuild/ The PBT Institute Community (Join the healing conversation): https://thepbtinstitute.com
In this deeply vulnerable and empowering episode, I sit down with author, speaker, and somatic practitioner, Laurie James, to unpack her remarkable journey from decades of nervous system dysregulation to deep, body-based healing. Laurie's story begins in childhood, where she endured the pain of adoption complexities, sibling abuse, and growing up in a home where she never felt truly safe. These early experiences planted the seeds of hypervigilance, self-worth struggles, and an ongoing search for belonging. Fast forward to adulthood, Laurie faced multiple betrayals in her marriage—one that shook her to her core when her then-husband violated her deepest boundary by contacting her birth mother against her wishes, and another that emerged as a major financial betrayal impacting their family. Layered with years of caregiving for her aging parents, the stress built silently in her body until it erupted as a severe health crisis. Laurie shares openly how chronic stress and unresolved trauma manifested physically—gut issues, anxiety, sleep disruption—and how years of talk therapy alone couldn't release what was stored in her body. The turning point came when she discovered somatic experiencing—a therapeutic approach that helps release trauma from the nervous system through gentle body awareness practices. In our conversation, Laurie explains: Why trauma lives in the body and can cause chronic dysregulation for decades The physical symptoms and health issues that can stem from betrayal and unresolved trauma How somatic experiencing works and why it was the missing piece in her healing Practical examples of self-regulation tools you can try right now How to build a personalized nervous system regulation toolkit The importance of curiosity, presence, and "nourishing" difficult emotions rather than avoiding them If you've ever wondered why you can't "think" your way out of anxiety, hypervigilance, or betrayal pain—this episode will give you a new perspective and hope. Lourie's story is proof that even after decades of dysregulation, it is possible to find safety, stability, and healing in your own body again. Resources: Laurie James: https://www.laurieejames.com The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim/ PBT Certification Info: https://thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified
In this deeply moving episode, Dr. Debi Silber is joined by author and transformational guide Megan Walrod, whose debut novel It's Always Been Me is not just a story—it's a healing journey. What began as a personal process to move through her own betrayal turned into a breathtaking fictional narrative that reflects the five stages from betrayal to breakthrough. Megan shares how writing the character of Sabina, a woman who loses herself while supporting her partner's dream, became a powerful tool for reclaiming her voice and healing old wounds. Through this conversation, you'll hear how creative expression, emotional release, and reconnection with intuition can become catalysts for transformation after heartbreak. This episode is a powerful reminder: even when your life doesn't look like the story you thought you'd live, you can write a new one—and become the main character of your own life. 🧠 What You'll Learn in This Episode: Why betrayal often invites us to reclaim buried dreams and lost parts of ourselves How writing can be a powerful tool for healing The difference between supporting others and losing yourself How to reconnect with your intuition after it's been dismissed or doubted Why emotional expression (even messy or angry) is necessary for healing What it means to become the main character of your own life How Megan's novel It's Always Been Me mirrors the 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough 📚 About the Guest: Megan Walrod is an author, speaker, and guide who helps women reclaim their voice, write their truth, and live a life aligned with their deepest desires. Her debut novel, It's Always Been Me, is a fictionalized yet soul-baring exploration of healing after betrayal. The book includes free reflection questions and book group prompts, available at meganwalrod.com/book. 📘 Mentioned in the Episode: Megan Walrod's novel: It's Always Been Me. Find it here: https://www.meganwalrod.com/book The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough (learn more at thepbtinstitute.com) Painting, journaling, and creative expression as tools for trauma recovery
📝 Episode Summary: In this heart-opening episode, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with PBT® Coach Lisa Teichmiller to explore the essential—but often overlooked—role of grief in the betrayal recovery journey. Lisa shares her personal story of navigating betrayal not just in her marriage, but in her business and identity, offering a raw and relatable testimony of what it takes to truly rebuild from the inside out. Together, Dr. Debi and Lisa discuss: Why grief is not a weakness but a necessary step to healing The emotional weight of betrayal and how it shatters trust and identity The five stages of grief and how acceptance becomes the turning point Why rebuilding your life requires choosing new "bricks" with intention The link between grief, clarity, and designing a life that reflects your worth How journaling can help process suppressed emotions and reconnect with your intuition The importance of safe, supportive spaces in healing—especially when betrayal goes beyond romantic relationships Lisa brings both wisdom and warmth as she explains how honoring grief leads to powerful transformation, and how walking through the fire can uncover who you were truly meant to be. 🔗 Connect with Lisa: The PBT Institute Reclaim Program https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim/ 🌐 LisaTeichmiller.com 📸 Instagram: @lisateichmiller 💬 Favorite Quotes: "Your heart is working. That means you're still here—not all is lost." "Grief is not weakness. It's clarity, it's healing, and it's the foundation of transformation." "Don't go to the same brick quarry. You're building something new."
In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi Silber dives into one of the most misunderstood yet essential parts of healing after betrayal: forgiveness. She explores forgiveness from two sides—forgiving ourselves and forgiving others—and unpacks the deep misconceptions that keep people stuck in pain, resentment, and confusion. You'll learn why forgiveness doesn't mean reconciliation, how it affects your physical, emotional, and mental health, and why self-forgiveness is just as important—if not more—than forgiving the person who hurt you. Dr. Debi also introduces the Window of Willingness, a framework to help you determine whether it's safe (or even wise) to rebuild with someone after betrayal. Plus, in honor of National Forgiveness Day (founded by Dr. Debi and held every year on September 1st), you'll hear about the 21-day forgiveness experience that has helped countless people move from pain to peace. If you've been holding on to anger, shame, guilt, or heartbreak—this episode is your invitation to finally let it go. 🔑 What You'll Learn: The difference between forgiveness and rebuilding Why forgiveness is for you, not them How to know when it's safe to reconcile What the Window of Willingness tells you about the betrayer's readiness How self-forgiveness begins the healing process Why cultural pressure to "forgive and forget" often backfires A fresh take on forgiving without enabling 📘 Mentioned in the Episode: Trust Again by Dr. Debi Silber NationalForgivenessDay.com – Join the 21-day Forgiveness Transformation Program 🎁 Ready to Begin Forgiving—On Your Own Terms? Join us for the 21-Day Forgiveness Transformation Program starting September 1st. It's now a self-paced program filled with inspiration, daily actions, a forgiveness tracker, and powerful stories to support your healing. Sign up at nationalforgivenessday.com What is forgiveness—and what isn't it? Learn the truth about forgiving yourself and others after betrayal, plus how to know when (or if) to rebuild trust.
In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi Silber sits down with licensed psychotherapist and author Chelsea Brooke Cole to unpack the intersection of narcissism and agreeableness. Chelsea shares her personal journey through two narcissistic marriages—one with a grandiose narcissist, and the other with a vulnerable one—and how her agreeable nature played a key role in why she stayed. Together, they explore why agreeable people are often targeted, how narcissists think differently, and why healing means reclaiming your empathy without enabling abuse. If you've ever asked yourself, "How did I miss this?"—this episode is for you. What You'll Learn: The difference between grandiose and vulnerable narcissists Why highly agreeable people are prime targets for narcissists How childhood trauma can condition us to "earn" love The five traits of agreeableness and how they impact relationships Why narcissists are wired to exploit what makes you compassionate The myth of changing a narcissist Why awareness, boundaries, and understanding narcissistic thinking are key to healing About Chelsea Brooke Cole: Chelsea is a licensed psychotherapist, author of If Only I'd Known, and expert in narcissistic abuse recovery. She specializes in helping individuals understand the psychology of narcissists, heal from trauma, and build boundaries rooted in clarity, not guilt. Learn more: chelseabrookecole.com Resources: Post Betrayal Syndrome Quiz: https://thepbtinstitute.com/pbs-quiz/ Certification: https://thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified/ For the betrayed – Reclaim: Heal from your betrayal and take your life back. https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim/
In this powerful conversation, Dr. Debi welcomes back Elizabeth Kipp—one of our beloved PBT Coaches—for a deep dive into the mental spiral that often follows betrayal. They explore the imprint trauma leaves on the nervous system, how to catch yourself in old patterns, and simple yet effective tools to get back into the body and regain a sense of control. Elizabeth shares real-life stories, explains how breathwork, awareness, and nervous system regulation can interrupt the loop, and gives us a practical six-part framework for shifting out of mental chaos. This episode is packed with insight, compassion, and actionable strategies for anyone healing from betrayal. What You'll Learn: Why betrayal trauma imprints on the nervous system—and how to interrupt it How a rusted license plate became a breakthrough moment for Elizabeth The link between breath, nervous system regulation, and mindset How unresolved childhood and intergenerational trauma sneak into present-day situations 6 practical ways to change your state when you're stuck in mental chaos Why healing isn't linear and how to make peace with the spiral Resources: Post Betrayal Syndrome Quiz: https://thepbtinstitute.com/pbs-quiz/ Certification: https://thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified/ For the betrayed – Reclaim: Heal from your betrayal and take your life back. Subscribe & Review If this episode spoke to you, please subscribe, rate, and leave a review—it helps others find this life-changing work.
In this episode, Dr. Debi Silber explores the difficult but essential topic of enabling—how we unknowingly prevent both ourselves and others from experiencing the crash-and-burn moments necessary for transformation. Drawing from real conversations with PBT® members, certified coaches, and personal experiences, Dr. Debi reveals how enabling behavior keeps betrayers from feeling the full impact of their choices and keeps the betrayed from healing deeply. Whether you're a parent, partner, practitioner, or someone recovering from betrayal, this episode offers powerful insights into how avoiding consequences can block true growth—and how setting boundaries, allowing natural consequences, and standing in your truth can lead to breakthrough instead of burnout. 🧠 What You'll Learn: The three groups of people who don't heal after betrayal—and why enabling is a common factor The physical, mental, and emotional toll enabling takes on the betrayed How betrayers avoid transformation when they don't face real consequences The difference between resilience and transformation (patching the old house vs. rebuilding a new one) A personal parenting story that illustrates the emotional challenge of not stepping in—and the growth that follows How enabling prevents the powerful lessons that come from learning things the hard way How to identify where you may be enabling others (or being enabled) and what it's costing you 💬 Notable Quotes: "When we enable, we deny someone the opportunity to crash and burn—so they can rebuild into something better." "Easy now, hard later… or hard now, easy later. Take your pick." "Transformation doesn't happen from patching things up—it happens when everything falls apart, and you rebuild deliberately." Mentioned in the Episode: The 3 groups from Dr. Debi's PhD study who didn't heal Post Betrayal Syndrome® and its symptoms Rebuilding after betrayal using The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough Real-world examples from members inside the PBT® Institute 🔥 Call to Action: Are you unintentionally enabling someone—and blocking your own healing in the process? It's time to take an honest look. Reflect, journal, or speak with a trusted practitioner about how enabling may be holding you back. Want guidance on your own healing or how to support someone else's breakthrough? Visit ThePBTInstitute.com to learn about programs, resources, and PBT® Coach/Practitioner certification.
In this powerful episode, I'm joined by Dr. Bruce Chalmer—psychologist, author, and podcast host—for an in-depth discussion about betrayal, forgiveness, and the path to healing. Dr. Chalmer shares his deeply personal journey from pain to purpose, what drew him into clinical work with couples, and why betrayal demands a very different approach to healing. We talk about the distinction between guilt and shame, the stages of rebuilding trust, and how forgiveness is truly an inside job. If you've ever struggled with whether to stay, how to heal, or what it really takes to move forward, this episode will speak directly to your heart. What You'll Learn: Why betrayal is not just a relational rupture but a nervous system shock How Dr. Chalmer's personal experience shaped his work with couples The misunderstood difference between guilt and shame Why forgiveness is about releasing pain—not condoning behavior What it really means to rebuild something better than before The two-way nature of trust and how both partners play a role in restoring it The unexpected gifts that can emerge from betrayal Resources & Mentions: Dr. Bruce Chalmer's site: www.brucechalmer.com "Couples Therapy in Seven Words" Podcast Trust Again by Dr. Debi Silber The 5 Stages from Betrayal to Breakthrough® framework Reclaim-for the betrayed: https://thepbtinstitute.com/reclaim/ Rebuild-for the betrayer: https://thepbtinstitute.com/rebuild/
In this powerful and unexpected episode, Dr. Debi Silber is joined by Beatty Carmichael, author of The Prayer of Freedom, to explore how deeply rooted emotional pain—especially betrayal—can manifest in physical symptoms like chronic pain, anxiety, addiction, and more. Beatty shares his remarkable journey from a seven-generation family of medical doctors to developing a spiritual healing method that has helped thousands find freedom from long-term suffering. This isn't about religion or blind faith—it's about uncovering and addressing the spiritual roots of chronic pain and emotional patterns that traditional medicine often can't touch. Dr. Debi even experiences real-time relief from neck pain using Beatty's simple prayer-based protocol. Whether you're struggling with emotional pain, working with clients who can't seem to get unstuck, or just curious about what else might be possible—this episode will expand your understanding of healing and transformation. 🔑 Key Topics Discussed: Beatty's path from a medical family legacy to spiritual healing The limitations of conventional and even holistic approaches to trauma Why betrayal often underlies chronic pain, addiction, anxiety, and depression How unprocessed spiritual violations amplify our emotional patterns The "Prayer of Freedom" process—and how it's different from typical prayer or talk therapy Dr. Debi's live demo: real-time relief from years of chronic neck pain How spiritual healing ripples through families, not just individuals The 18 root categories that open the door to spiritual oppression Why symptoms often return—and what to do to address them at the core 💬 Notable Quotes: "When traditional and even holistic approaches don't work, it's often because they're missing the spiritual root." – Beatty Carmichael "If you've been betrayed and never fully processed it, it's not just emotional—it could be driving your physical pain too." – Dr. Debi Silber "You don't have to live with chronic pain or depression. The solution might be simpler—and deeper—than you think." – Beatty Carmichael 📚 Resources Mentioned: Book: The Prayer of Freedom by Beatty Carmichael Website: theprayerfreedombook.com – Includes testimonials, free resources, and a direct link to purchase the book on Amazon 🙌 Connect with Beatty Carmichael: Website: theprayerfreedombook.com 👉 Ready to Heal at the Root? Whether you're healing from betrayal or helping others do the same, spiritual freedom is possible. Learn more about how emotional wounds affect the body—and how to release them for good. 🔗 Explore Reclaim: thepbtinstitute.com/Reclaim
In this powerful and practical conversation, Dr. Debi Silber welcomes her personal attorney and legal expert Lisa Fraley to explore the often-overlooked world of workplace and entrepreneurial betrayal. Whether you've been undermined by a boss, copied by a competitor, or blindsided by a client chargeback, this episode unpacks the emotional and legal complexities of betrayal in business. Lisa shares real-world stories from her legal career, including the hidden emotional wounds behind corporate conflict and the most common legal mistakes entrepreneurs make—especially when it comes to refunds, stolen content, and broken agreements. You'll learn how to protect yourself with compassion and clarity using strong contracts, clear boundaries, and emotionally intelligent legal strategy. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN: How betrayal shows up in corporate settings (and why it's often ignored) Real-life examples of workplace betrayal—and how they silently erode trust and confidence Why many entrepreneurs get blindsided by refunds, chargebacks, or stolen content What to include in your client agreement to protect your income and intellectual property Why kindness and compassion can be effective legal strategies when handling conflict How often you should review your agreements—and why outdated documents can cost you Why legal documents are not just protection—but energetic boundaries, too A step-by-step guide for how to respond when someone doesn't pay or copies your work RESOURCE MENTIONED: 💼 Free Guide: Refund-Proof Your Client Agreement Get Lisa's free guide to ensure your refund policies are clear and enforceable: https://lisafraley.com/refundproof Lisa's website: https://lisafraley.com ABOUT LISA FRALEY: Lisa Fraley, JD, is an attorney, legal coach®, speaker, and author who blends her legal expertise with love and intuition. She supports entrepreneurs in legally protecting their businesses with contracts and insights that empower. QUOTE WORTH REMEMBERING: "Your legal documents don't just protect your income—they protect your energy, your content, and your boundaries." – Lisa Fraley CONNECT WITH DR. DEBI SILBER: Website: https://thepbtinstitute.com Instagram: @debisilber Podcast: From Betrayal to Breakthrough






