Song Revolution with John Chisum

Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 4 Episode Title: Galen Crew: To China with Love Host: John Chisum   Special Guest: Galen Crew, Singer-Songwriter and Producer   Episode Highlights: Meet Galen Crew: Nashville-raised artist and songwriter with an inspiring global reach. Viral success in China, with over a billion streams across his catalog. Collaboration with legendary British songwriter Roger Cook, known for "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing." The Road to Music City: Growing up in Franklin, Tennessee, surrounded by the Christian music scene. Early songwriting inspired by personal experiences, including his parents' divorce. Crafting a Unique Musical Identity: Fusing fantasy, fairy tale, and mythological themes into his music. Inspirations from Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and Hermann Hesse. The journey from a local rock band to a solo artist with global appeal. Going Viral in China: The unexpected success of "Sleepy Head" on Chinese music platforms like NetEase and Tencent. Navigating international music markets and learning to connect with a diverse audience. Touring China, performing for dedicated fans, and bridging cultural gaps with music and language. Collaborations and Mentorship: The serendipitous connection with Roger Cook through Galen's grandfather. Writing and producing songs like "Sleepy Head" with Roger Cook. Learning the art of storytelling in songwriting. Lessons for Songwriters: Embracing creativity and authenticity in your music. Encouragement to step out of your comfort zone and share your unique voice. Exploring global opportunities and being open to unexpected paths.   Key Takeaways: Music transcends borders, with the potential to connect with audiences worldwide. Authenticity in your art can carve new lanes beyond traditional industry expectations. Leveraging the digital age to expand your reach is more accessible than ever.   Featured Tracks: Sleepy Head – A viral hit in China with a whimsical, fairy-tale theme. Explore Galen Crew's music on Spotify, NetEase, and other platforms.   Get Involved: Check out Galen Crew's music and follow his inspiring journey. Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and inspiration to revolutionize your songwriting. Download the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge Guide to take your craft to the next level.   Next Week's Episode: Celebrating the power of community and collaboration in songwriting with a special guest from the Nashville scene. Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Social Media: Facebook | Instagram Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!  

Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 3 Episode Title: John Chisum: Discovering Your Hidden Songwriting Genius Host: John Chisum   Episode Highlights: Celebrating a Decade of Songwriting Excellence: Reflecting on 10 years of Nashville Christian Songwriters (NCS) and 42 years in Christian music for John Chisum. Announcement of the 30th-anniversary edition of "Firm Foundation," set for release this month. 2025 Songwriting Challenge: A free year-long program to help Christian songwriters develop one new skill per month. Includes monthly free training sessions, resources, and a downloadable guide. Encouragement to set a "giant intention" for songwriting growth this year. Discovering Your Songwriting Zone of Genius: Insights inspired by Gay Hendricks' book The Big Leap. Identifying whether you're a producer, lyricist, technician, or big idea person. Strategies for maximizing strengths and collaborating to address weaknesses. Community and Coaching Opportunities: Overview of NCS programs, including one-on-one coaching, group coaching, and artist development programs. Introduction to the NCS Collective, a record label supporting emerging Christian songwriters. Music Showcase: Sneak peeks of music produced through the NCS Collective, including "Mighty God" featuring Kobe James and "You Are The One" by Bonnie Barbet. Examples of world-class music from songwriters empowered by NCS coaching programs. Practical Songwriting Advice: Avoiding common mistakes like premature production of underdeveloped songs. Understanding the importance of proper song form and market readiness. Encouragement to invest in personal growth as a songwriter.   Key Takeaways: Discovering and focusing on your songwriting strengths will lead to more impactful music. Developing skills and collaborating within a supportive community can elevate your craft. Time will pass regardless; use it to grow and fulfill your God-given calling as a songwriter.   Get Involved: Download the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge Guide from the show notes. Join the NCS Community for weekly coaching and resources to revolutionize your songwriting journey. Explore the NCS Collective and listen to inspiring music from Christian songwriters.   Next Week's Episode: Special guest: Galen Crew, a songwriter with over a billion streams in China, shares his creative journey.   Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Social Media: Facebook | Instagram   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters and creatives.

Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3, Episode 2 Episode Title: Leanna Crawford: God and Goat Yoga Hosts: John Chisum   Special Guest: Leanna Crawford, Christian music artist and songwriter   Episode Highlights: Meet Leanna Crawford: Signed to Provident Music, Leanna's latest album, Still Waters, is inspired by faith, family, and life's experiences. She's toured with artists like 10th Avenue North, Michael W. Smith, and Matthew West and is making an impact not just through music but also through her partnership with Charity Water. The Heart Behind Still Waters: Exploring themes of faith, vulnerability, and personal growth. Stories behind key songs like "Simple" and "Still Waters." The balance between the spiritual and psychological aspects of life and songwriting. Leanna's Journey: Growing up on a horse farm in the Northwest, with early songwriting roots inspired by everyday experiences. How moving to Nashville shaped her artistry and opened doors in the music industry. Funny anecdotes like goat yoga and near misses with ATVs, showcasing her down-to-earth personality. Faith and Worship: Leanna reflects on her church background and how it influenced her approach to music and ministry. A deep dive into her creative process and how she keeps performances fresh for audiences across different cities. Spotlight on the Song "Simple": Lyrics that resonate deeply about God's grace and simplicity in faith. Insights into the songwriting process with co-writers Jason Houser and Clint Lagerberg. The personal and spiritual layers that inspired this heartfelt track. Live Performance: Leanna performs "Simple," offering an intimate look into the emotion and meaning behind the song. Key Takeaways: Vulnerability in songwriting allows for deeper connections with listeners. Acknowledge the intersection of spiritual and mental health in the journey of faith. Great songs come from authentic stories and experiences. Get Involved: Stream Still Waters by Leanna Crawford on your favorite platform. Learn more about her ministry and music on LeannaCrawford.com. Next Week's Episode: Discover your "Songwriting Zone of Genius" with John and Bryant. Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Social Media: Facebook | Instagram Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with someone passionate about music and faith!

Song Revolution Podcast - Season 3 Premiere Episode Title: John Chisum: "Getting Unstuck, Get a Plan, and Get Heard" Hosts: John Chisum Bryant Urich   Episode Highlights: Welcome to Season 3! A new year and a new season of Song Revolution. Overview of exciting plans for 2025, including interviews, teachings, and a 12-month songwriting challenge. Special Guests and Upcoming Highlights: Leanna Crawford, Galen Crew, and a revival episode featuring the group Out of Eden. Insights from songwriters with incredible journeys. The 12-Month Songwriting Challenge: A skill-focused journey: Learn one new songwriting skill each month. Free resources, including live training sessions, email guides, and practical insights. Designed for all songwriters—whether you're just starting or seasoned in your craft. Practical Tips for Songwriters: Develop intentionality and set realistic goals for your songwriting journey. Surround yourself with a supportive songwriting community. Strategies to share your songs strategically and seek meaningful feedback. The Importance of Craft: Balancing the spiritual inspiration of songwriting with practical skill-building. The value of writing compelling hooks, learning rhyme schemes, and receiving constructive feedback.   Key Takeaways: Success in songwriting requires patience, dedication, and a willingness to learn. Focus on creating songs that stand out, not just production value. A great song can shine even with a simple arrangement. "Make noise where you are, and people will find you." – Practical advice for indie artists from industry leaders.   Get Involved: Join the 2025 Songwriting Challenge: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Join the NCS Community: A worldwide network of Christian songwriters to inspire and grow your craft.   Next Week's Episode: Special Guest: Leanna Crawford shares her insights, music, and a unique perspective on faith and creativity.   Connect With Us: Website: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Social Media: Facebook | Instagram   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with a fellow songwriter!

Coby James is a singer, songwriter, guitarist, and part of one of Nashville's most successful record labels, Centricity Music. On today's episode, Coby and John talk about Coby's relatively young but amazing career. They discuss Coby's favorite superheroes, both in real life and in the Marvel Comics universe. Coby shares his biggest influences from the world of music. John asks about the uncertainty a 20-year old faces in these times and the episode concludes with Coby performing an acoustic version of the classic Mary Mary song 'Shackles.' HERE'S WHAT YOU'LL GET ON TODAY'S EPISODE 03:18 How Coby has "studied" John Mayer 05:01 Who is Coby's favorite superhero and why 07:13 An out-of-body experience that Coby had on-stage 11:59 Who would Coby be if his music skills were taken away 14:00 What does the world look like to a 20-year-old right now 20:40 Coby shares what his experience was, as a kid, with Christ 24:52 John and Coby discuss about Coby's song 'Happier' 32:13 What would Coby want his audience to take away from his songs 38: 46 Coby James performs 'Shackles' WE HOPE THIS SONGWRITING TIP HELPS YOU Coby says, "Vulnerability is the key to getting emotion. Being open and real about it all." CONNECT WITH COBY JAMES Website - https://cobyjames.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cobyjamesmusic/ Facebook -  https://www.facebook.com/cobyjamesmusic YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRxkB41rHYmUwLdM0UWZbJQ SoundCloud - https://soundcloud.com/cobyjamesmusic CONNECT WITH NASHVILLE CHRISTIAN SONGWRITERS Nashville Christian Songwriters - www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com  Kingdom Songwriter Academy - www.kingdomsongwritersacademy.com   Facebook - www.facebook.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/  Instagram - www.instagram.com/nashvillechristiansongwriters/  Twitter - twitter.com/NCSsongwriters  SUBSCRIBE TO THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/song-revolution-with-john-chisum/id1220274942 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6uIIh5kJrEjP6oxmJDKqHP If you liked this episode, please don't forget to tune in, subscribe, and share this podcast! ABOUT THE SONG REVOLUTION PODCAST The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at nashvillechristiansongwriters.co

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4   TITLE: JACKSON DREYER: Letting Life Shape The Song   HOSTS: John Chisum   EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with singer-songwriter Jackson Dreyer for an honest and wide-ranging conversation about creativity, discipline, and finding your voice as a songwriter. From growing up outside Chicago to planting roots in East Nashville, Jackson shares how movement, architecture, relationships, and everyday life experiences shape his songwriting process. The conversation explores how stepping away from constant noise creates space for emotional clarity, lyrical depth, and authentic expression. This episode is a thoughtful look at how songwriters can stay inspired, grounded, and creatively alive while navigating both personal growth and artistic ambition.   EPISODE TOPICS The connection between physical movement and creative clarity How running and solitude spark songwriting ideas Growing up near Chicago and the influence of architecture and place Finding inspiration in cities, communities, and everyday surroundings Living and writing in East Nashville as a songwriter Turning real emotions into honest lyrics Avoiding creative overload and reclaiming mental space Letting life experiences shape better songs   KEY HIGHLIGHTS Jackson shares how running helps him reconnect with his thoughts and emotions, often leading to new song ideas. A discussion on how silence and mental margin are essential for meaningful songwriting. Reflections on how cities like Chicago and Nashville influence creativity, identity, and artistic perspective. Insight into how architecture and visual beauty can fuel musical inspiration. Honest thoughts on balancing productivity with presence as a modern songwriter. Encouragement to embrace real life—relationships, movement, environment—as songwriting fuel.   FINAL TAKEAWAY Great songs don't come from constant noise—they come from paying attention. By creating space to think, feel, and live fully, songwriters can tap into deeper honesty and write from a more authentic place. Creativity thrives when we slow down, observe our surroundings, and allow life itself to shape the songs we write.   Resources & Links:   Check out Jackson Dreyer https://www.jacksondreyer.com/    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide  Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge    Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ 

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4   TITLE: LAURA OSNES: Faith, Art, and Starting Over   HOSTS: John Chisum   EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes Broadway star, film actress, and singer-songwriter Laura Osnes for a deeply personal conversation about calling, identity, and creativity. Laura shares her journey from early musical theater roots to starring on Broadway, navigating career success, public controversy, and a major life pivot that led her to Nashville. The conversation explores how a season of loss and uncertainty opened the door to songwriting, personal expression, and new purpose beyond the stage. Laura also introduces her latest venture, Stagecraft, an online training platform designed to equip and mentor the next generation of stage performers with both excellence and integrity.   EPISODE TOPICS: Laura Osnes' early beginnings and Broadway career Winning a Broadway role through reality television Identity and faith in high-pressure creative environments Navigating career disruption and public controversy Moving from performance to songwriting as personal expression Finding your voice outside of roles and expectations Comparison, authenticity, and creative confidence Differences between stage performance and film acting Launching Stagecraft to mentor young performers Encouragement for artists walking unconventional paths   KEY HIGHLIGHTS: Laura's reflection on discovering her identity beyond performance and public success. Insight into how songwriting became a new creative outlet after a season of loss and silence. A powerful discussion on authenticity and resisting comparison in artistic careers. Lessons learned from navigating rejection, cancellation, and rebuilding with integrity. Practical wisdom on preparation, patience, and being ready when opportunity appears. The heart behind Stagecraft and its mission to equip young artists with skill and character.   FINAL TAKEAWAY: Creative calling is not limited to a single platform or season. This episode reminds songwriters and artists that identity must be rooted deeper than success, roles, or recognition. When doors close, new expressions of purpose can emerge. By staying faithful, authentic, and open to unexpected paths, artists can discover new ways to share their voice and make meaningful impact.   Resources & Links:   Check out Laura Osnes https://lauraosnes.com/    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide  Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge    Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ 

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4   TITLE: MICAH CHRISTOPHER: Writing From Where You Are   HOSTS: John Chisum   EPISODE SUMMARY: In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with artist and songwriter Micah Christopher to explore the journey from local church leadership to signing with Integrity Music. Micah shares his story of faith, obedience, and gradual growth, emphasizing how songwriting developed alongside spiritual maturity rather than overnight success. The conversation highlights the tension between calling and platform, the importance of community, and the often unseen seasons that prepare songwriters for wider opportunities. Together, John and Micah unpack what it really means to pursue songwriting with humility, patience, and purpose in a rapidly changing music landscape.   EPISODE TOPICS: Micah Christopher's faith and songwriting journey Transitioning from local worship leader to recording artist Signing with Integrity Music Writing songs for the church versus writing for personal expression The role of obedience and faithfulness in creative growth Balancing ambition, calling, and character Community, mentorship, and long-term development Navigating expectations in the modern Christian music industry   KEY HIGHLIGHTS: Micah's honest reflection on slow, steady growth rather than sudden success. Insight into how songwriting evolved naturally out of worship leadership and spiritual formation. A discussion on the dangers of chasing platform before being rooted in purpose. Encouragement for songwriters who feel overlooked or stuck in hidden seasons. Practical wisdom on staying grounded while stepping into new opportunities. A reminder that label deals and recognition are outcomes, not destinations.   FINAL TAKEAWAY: Faithful songwriting is built over time through obedience, humility, and community. Rather than striving for quick success, this episode challenges songwriters to trust the process, steward their current season well, and allow their craft and character to grow together. When the foundation is solid, the opportunities that come will have lasting impact.   Resources & Links:   Check out Micah Christopher https://www.micahchristopher.com/  https://www.instagram.com/micahchristopher_/?hl=en    Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide  Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ 

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 4   TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Writing   HOSTS: John Chisum & Bryant Urich   EPISODE SUMMARY In this opening episode of Season Four of Song Revolution, John and co-host Bryant Urich reflect on the highlights of the past year while casting vision for 2026. They discuss the growth of the NCS community, the return of in-person songwriting retreats, the launch of NCS Records, and meaningful conversations from recent podcast guests. The episode then shifts into a practical and encouraging discussion about one of the biggest challenges songwriters face: making the most of their time. Through honest conversation and real-life examples, John and Bryant challenge listeners to move past discouragement, establish sustainable writing rhythms, and take intentional action toward their calling as songwriters.   EPISODE TOPICS Highlights from 2025 and vision for 2026 Growth of the NCS community and songwriting retreats Launch and expansion of NCS Records Lessons learned from recent podcast guests Overcoming discouragement and writer's block Time management and creative rhythms for songwriters Discipline versus legalism in the creative process The importance of consistency, accountability, and action   KEY HIGHLIGHTS A reflection on how in-person writing retreats and community connection reignited creativity and collaboration. Insight into why many songwriters struggle to write consistently and how exhaustion, discouragement, and unrealistic expectations play a role. A practical reminder that inspiration often follows action, not the other way around. A discussion on identifying personal energy rhythms and choosing realistic writing times that fit current seasons of life. Encouragement to view songwriting as a calling worth intentional investment rather than waiting to feel "good enough." A reframing of the common question from "Am I good enough?" to "Am I called enough to show up and do the work?"   FINAL TAKEAWAY Songwriting growth doesn't come from waiting for the perfect moment or the perfect idea. It comes from showing up consistently, feeding your creativity, and taking small but intentional steps forward. If you feel called to write songs, the next step is action. Treat your craft with purpose, surround yourself with community, and commit to using your time wisely so the songs inside you don't stay unwritten.     Resources & Links:   Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide        Be a part of NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community    NCS Collective: Check out the songwriters and artists in our collective! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/ 

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Hosts: John Chisum   Guest: Dan Dean   Episode Title: DAN DEAN: 25 Years of Ministry with Phillips, Craig, and Dean   Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum sits down with Dan Dean—one-third of the legendary trio Phillips, Craig & Dean—to explore a decades-long career marked by timeless songs, deep-rooted ministry, and a newly released solo album, More. From early cassette recordings to leading worship across the globe, Dan opens up about perseverance, songwriting, the power of legacy, and why he's more inspired than ever to keep creating.   What You'll Hear: Dan's early journey from solo artist to founding member of Phillips, Craig & Dean Behind-the-scenes stories from their 30+ year career and 14 studio albums How one heartfelt war-time promise shaped generations of ministry The spiritual and emotional layers behind Dan's new solo album, More A father-son duet and the family legacy of faith through music Why beloved songs like "Crucified with Christ" and "Revelation Song" still resonate Words of encouragement for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders   Featured Songs from More: "More" – A song of hope written during the isolation of COVID "Home" – A heartfelt duet with Dan's son, Devin Dean "Mother of Boys" – Inspired by a poem written by Dan's mom "Never Gets Old" – A touching reflection on the unchanging power of Scripture Notable Quotes: "God always has more of what you need." "You want to hear the songs that brought some kind of emotional or spiritual impact in your life." "The power of one man's decision can impact generations." "It wasn't always easy, but we were faithful to the call."     Resources & Links:   Connect with Dan Dean: https://www.dandeanofficial.com/   Follow Dan on Instagram: @danpcd   NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training   Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community   NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Episode Title: ANDREW GREER (part 1): Songwriting and Storytelling   Host: John Chisum   Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this rich and heartfelt conversation, John welcomes singer-songwriter, producer, author, and documentarian Andrew Greer to Song Revolution. From his early days growing up in Texas with music all around him, to his time at Belmont University, and now as a respected artist and filmmaker, Andrew shares how music has always been more than sound—it has been a divine meeting point and a lifelong connection to God.   Andrew opens up about discovering music as collaboration with the Creator, the spiritual weight of art, and how songwriters and storytellers carry the yearning for belonging and acceptance. He and John dive into the mystery of creativity, the intersection of sacred and "secular" art, and the role of music in healing, connection, and co-creation with God. This first part of the interview also explores Andrew's reflections on growing up with thoughtful parents, his deep love for liner notes, the importance of songwriting beyond categories, and the spiritual resonance of great artists from Joni Mitchell to Roberta Flack.   What You'll Learn in This Episode: Andrew's early encounter with music and its connection to faith How music serves as collaboration with our Creator The difference between original sin and original virtue in shaping our lives Why songwriting is about more than "Christian" or "secular" categories How great art and music point us toward belonging and acceptance Andrew's insights on the indie music landscape and why it's a great time for creators   Key Topics & Highlights: The spiritual role of music as connection and belonging How Andrew discovered a calling for songwriting and storytelling at an early age The influence of his parents and church community on shaping his worldview Why labeling art as sacred vs. secular often misses the deeper point Stories from Andrew's journey at Belmont University and launching into music Insights on how artists like Joni Mitchell, Roberta Flack, and others shaped his perspective Why vulnerability and honesty in songwriting resonate more deeply than formulas   Final Takeaway: At its heart, music is not about categories or success—it is about connection. Whether writing songs, producing stories, or simply listening, music offers us a chance to collaborate with God and remind one another that we belong.     Resources & Links:   Explore Andrew Greer's work:  https://www.andrew-greer.com/    NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training   Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community   NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Episode Title: SARAH KROGER: Invitation to the Desert   Host: John Chisum   Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy! In this deeply moving episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes recording artist and worship leader Sarah Kroger for an honest conversation about faith, identity, songwriting, and spiritual wilderness. With a contemplative heart and a background shaped by Catholic tradition, Sarah shares how her latest album A New Reality was birthed in a season of silence and questioning.   Together, John and Sarah explore what it means to embrace mystery in the Christian life, the importance of living in the present moment, and how belovedness can become an anchor in seasons of darkness. They also discuss the role of co-writing in Sarah's journey, her musical influences, and the inspiration behind standout tracks like "Galaxies," "Ghost," and the beloved fan-favorite "Belovedness."   Whether you're navigating your own spiritual desert or longing to write from a deeper place, this episode offers a rich well of encouragement, authenticity, and insight.   What You'll Learn in This Episode: How Sarah Kroger discovered her identity as a songwriter through co-writing Why gratitude and presence are key to thriving as an artist The inspiration and impact of her song "Belovedness" How contemplative authors like Henri Nouwen shaped her spiritual growth Why living in mystery may be the most authentic form of faith Real talk on spiritual silence, deconstruction, and creative perseverance   Key Moments: [01:09] – John welcomes listeners and introduces Sarah Kroger [03:34] – Sarah on gratitude, presence, and the joy of doing what she loves [05:56] – The early passion for music and discovering co-writing [10:24] – Influences from Nouwen, Merton, and Catholic mysticism [13:06] – John and Sarah discuss spiritual darkness and the mystery of God [17:03] – "I am with you always" as a theme through the desert [23:39] – Letting go of old faith feelings and embracing radical immediacy [29:01] – Practicing presence and the discipline of stillness [31:14] – The story behind "Belovedness" and Sarah's devotional book [36:39] – Exploring "Galaxies" and the divine image within us [38:40] – Writing "Ghost" and choosing sacred, traditional language [40:17] – John reflects on Sarah's album and the beauty of authenticity   Resources & Links: Order Sarah Kroger's devotional Belovedness: Overcoming Your Inner Critic https://sarahkroger.com   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training   Explore NCS Community and membership options https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community  

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Episode Title: CLARK BECKHAM: Micro Moments of Flow State   Hosts: John Chisum   Guest: Clark Beckham - American Idol Season 14 Runner-Up, Soul/R&B Artist, Educator, Host of Idol Breakdown   Episode Summary: Happy New Year and welcome to 2026! Thank you for joining us for Song Revolution. As we gear up for season 4 we wanted to share just a few of our favorite episodes from 2025. Enjoy!   In this powerful episode, John sits down with acclaimed vocalist and musician Clark Beckham to unpack his journey from street performer to American Idol fame. Clark opens up about the highs and lows of the entertainment industry, how his faith shapes his artistry, and why he believes Jesus loves the complexity found in music—yes, even a flat five.   You'll also hear about Clark's passion for music education, the emotional weight of critiquing performers on his Idol Breakdown series, and why it's perfectly normal to not feel obsessed with your art every single day.   Key Takeaways: Clark's honest experience as runner-up on American Idol Why he sees music as a competition with yourself The story behind "Jesus Loves the Flat Five" How faith, love, and genuine care translate in the entertainment world The difference between worship as a genre vs. worship as a personal practice Why it's okay not to feel creative every day—and why you should keep going anyway The purpose behind Idol Breakdown and how he handles criticism responsibly Demystifying music theory through Clark's online courses   Quotable Moments:  "Excuses are just permission slips for mediocrity." "God is the author of art. And when we express emotions through it, He's in it." "You don't follow your passion. You work really hard to get good, and passion follows." "Jesus loves complexity. He loves art. He loves the flat five."   RESOURCES & LINKS ClarkBeckham.com   Get Involved with NCS: NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Get the free guide & grow your songwriting skills this year! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Community Membership – 52 weeks of access to the right music industry professionals. Join today!  https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/community/   NCS Collective: https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/   Connect With Us: NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com   Support the Show: If you enjoyed this episode, leave us a review and share it with your fellow songwriters!

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum EPISODE TITLE: NIKI LOU SAVICH: Songs Born From Poetry EPISODE SUMMARY: In this heartfelt episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with longtime friend, songwriter, and Americana/folk artist Niki Lou Savich to reflect on her remarkable creative and spiritual journey. Once an international model, poet, caregiver, and therapist, Niki shares how songwriting unexpectedly emerged from her poetry during a deeply emotional season of life. She tells the story of discovering Nashville Christian Songwriters, attending her first retreat, and slowly growing from a poet with notebooks full of lyrics into a recording artist with two full-length albums. Together, John and Niki explore grief, faith, courage, artistry, and the patient, step-by-step process of becoming an artist later in life. This episode is a powerful reminder that God often brings songs from places we never planned—and that it's never too late to say yes to the call. EPISODE TOPICS: • Niki's transition from poetry to songwriting• Discovering songwriting through an unexpected creative moment• Attending her first NCS retreat and falling in love with the craft• Learning melody, structure, and song form without a musical background• Writing songs born from grief, loss, and lament• The death of Niki's parents and how sorrow shaped her songwriting voice• Developing confidence as a vocalist and recording artist• Overcoming fear and self-doubt in the studio• The difference between writing for a notebook and releasing songs into the world• Artist development, mentorship, and long-term growth• Finding purpose and obedience beyond age, background, or expectations KEY HIGHLIGHTS: • A song that changed everything: Niki describes the moment a poem unexpectedly came out in full song form—melody, structure, and all—launching her songwriting journey. • From Starbucks parking lots to finished albums:Early coaching sessions took place over Zoom while Niki sat bundled in her car outside Starbucks, learning song structure line by line. • Grief as sacred ground:Following the loss of both parents, Niki's songwriting deepened into raw, biblical lament, producing songs like "Million Tears," "Dry as Bone," and "Valley of Shadow and Light." • Becoming an artist later in life: Niki shares the mental and emotional shift required to believe she could sing her own songs and step into the role of an artist. • Studio courage:Recording her first album was terrifying, but with patient coaching, encouragement, and faith, Niki found her voice and confidence. • Two albums born from obedience:Niki released Million Tears followed by My Offering, both rooted in honesty, humility, and deep spiritual reflection. • A quiet but fierce strength:John reflects on Niki's combination of humility, tenacity, and dependence on God as key ingredients in her artistic growth. FINAL TAKEAWAY: Niki Lou Savich's story is a testament to the beauty that can rise from brokenness. Her journey reminds us that songwriting is not about age, background, or platform—it's about obedience, honesty, and trusting God with the songs He places in our hearts. When we surrender our pain, our fear, and our timing, God can transform even grief into a lasting offering of hope. Connect with Niki Lou Savich: https://nikilousavich.com/ Learn more:Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/  

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Host: John Chisum   Guest: Michael Lee Brown   Episode Title: MICHAEL LEE BROWN: From Broadway to Songwriting   Episode Summary: In this episode of Song Revolution, John welcomes singer, songwriter, and Broadway actor Michael Lee Brown, best known for his four-year run in Dear Evan Hansen on Broadway. Michael shares his unexpected journey into the NCS studio, his early beginnings in music, his transition from musical theater to singer-songwriter artistry, and the faith-filled moments that shaped his path. He opens up about the disciplines of acting, the joy and challenge of writing authentically, and why storytelling matters now more than ever. This episode offers inspiration for any creative searching for clarity, direction, and renewed passion in their craft.   Episode Topics: • Michael's early exposure to music and his family's creative influence • The road to Dear Evan Hansen and the meaningful moments that confirmed his path • What it took to perform as Evan, Connor, and Jared • Lessons learned from repetition, preparation, and total immersion in a show • How audience feedback shaped his understanding of the show's impact • Life after Broadway and navigating the post-pandemic creative landscape • Michael's songwriting process for pop and musical theatre • Writing from personal truth versus writing from a character's perspective • John's coaching advice on emotional authenticity in songwriting • The heartfelt inspiration behind Michael's song "Bob's Town" • New music, teaching, and what Michael hopes for in the next season of his career   Key Highlights: • A meaningful Broadway breakthrough: Michael reflects on years of walking past the Music Box Theatre, imagining himself on that stage, long before Dear Evan Hansen moved there. He later discovered a ring used in his first rehearsal was engraved with the Lord's Prayer—one of several moments that affirmed his steps. • Becoming the only actor to play all three major male roles: Michael shares the strategy, training, mental discipline, and repetition required to perform Evan, Connor, and Jared at different times throughout the show's run. • The emotional weight and reward of the work: Letters, conversations with fans, and powerful audience reactions reinforced the deep impact Dear Evan Hansen had on people of all ages. • Songwriting as a window into the soul: Michael describes his usual melody-first writing approach, how musical theatre requires a different process, and the tension between writing catchy songs versus revealing more vulnerable personal truth. • The power of story in "Bob's Town": Michael explains the inspiration behind the song, which honors a man named Bob and the small town that lovingly supported him. The story underscores the beauty of simple kindness and everyday humanity. Looking ahead: Michael is actively auditioning, writing new music, teaching voice and acting, and preparing to release more songs in the coming year.  Resources & Links: Connect with Michael Lee Brown: https://www.michaelleebrown.com/ Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.   Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com   Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training   NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3 Host: John Chisum Episode Title: STOWTOWN WORSHIP: Unity, Legacy, and Worship Episode Summary: In this episode, John welcomes an extraordinary lineup of worship leaders and vocal powerhouses—Alvin Slaughter, Steven McWhirter, and TaRanda Greene—along with the vision behind StowTown Worship's new project, Live from the Iron Manor. What began as a desire to bless worship pastors at the Metro Conference grew into a powerful night of worship, featuring reimagined classics, newly arranged favorites, and cross-generational, cross-genre collaboration. The group discusses the heart behind the project, the importance of unity in the church, breaking down stylistic walls, and stewarding songs that serve real people in real church pews. They also introduce StowTown Resource, a new comprehensive tool designed to equip churches with high-quality arrangements, stems, charts, and orchestrations—including the entire Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir catalog. This episode is rich with testimony, humility, humor, and a deep passion for ministering to God's people through music. Episode Topics: The origins of the StowTown Worship project The spiritual and musical vision behind Live from the Iron Manor Cross-generational worship and breaking down stylistic divides Crafting fresh arrangements of classic worship songs How worship transcends genre, age, and background Memories and legacy moments from Brooklyn Tabernacle Personal ministry journeys, testimonies, and career highlights Capturing the presence of God through united worship The launch of StowTown Resource and what it offers churches Serving people beyond the stage with authenticity and compassion Key Highlights: TaRanda Greene explains how the project began as a simple desire to bless worship pastors and evolved into a full recording featuring a powerhouse lineup. Alvin Slaughter reflects on his 35 years of ministry, Brooklyn Tabernacle roots, and renewed inspiration for recording again. Steven McWhirter shares the real-life basement moment behind "Come Jesus Come" and the humility surrounding his recent Dove Award win. The team discusses why songs must serve the hearts of real congregations, not just the stage or the worship industry. Fresh arrangements of classics like "Holy, Holy, Holy," "Heart of Worship," and "For God So Loved" were intentionally shaped to break down denominational and stylistic walls. The room of worship pastors at the Metro Conference became an active choir—captured on the live recording. StowTown Resource officially launches, offering charts, stems, orchestrations, rehearsal tools, and the Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir catalog all in one place. A strong emphasis emerges: unity, sincerity, and a kingdom mindset must drive modern worship ministry. Final Takeaway At its core, the StowTown Worship project reflects a simple truth: worship is about people encountering God—together. Whether through timeless hymns, brand-new songs, or powerful reimagined arrangements, what matters most is unity, authenticity, and a heart that serves the church. The night at the Iron Manor captured this beautifully, and the launch of StowTown Resource ensures that churches everywhere can carry that same spirit into their own worship ministries.   Resources & Links: Keep up with StowTown Worship! https://stowtownrecords.com/stowtown-worship   Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community. Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025 Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Host: John Chisum & Bryant Urich Episode Title: JOHN CHISUM: The Craft of Christmas Songwriting   Episode Summary: In this festive episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum and co-host Bryant Urich dive into the art and craft of writing Christmas songs. From exploring why holiday music resonates so deeply to analyzing the lyrical and musical trends behind the world's biggest Christmas hits, this conversation is packed with practical ideas, humor, and real-world insights for songwriters.   John and Bryant discuss everything from nostalgic memories and classic hymns to modern Christmas pop, offering guidance on how to approach seasonal songwriting with authenticity, originality, and skill. Whether you're crafting a worshipful Advent ballad or a fun, hooky holiday pop song, this episode equips you with tools to write songs that truly connect.   Key Topics & Highlights: Why Christmas songs matter and how nostalgia, memory, and emotion fuel their impact Lyrical themes of top Christmas songs based on research and data Musical traits that dominate Christmas hits including major keys, sleigh bells, and swing feels Using sensory details to make lyrics more vivid and relatable Finding original ideas by drawing from personal memories, traditions, and real experiences Analyzing classics and modern hits from Bing Crosby to Mariah Carey Using hymnals and older carols as starting points for new song ideas The importance of strong hooks and pre-writing in seasonal songwriting Why great Christmas songs evoke emotion first and facts second The role of chord extensions (like major 7ths) in creating a warm, wistful holiday sound Why many artists write Christmas music in the middle of the year and what that teaches about discipline Encouragement for writers who want to grow in skill, craft, and confidence   Final Thought Christmas songs endure because they make us feel something. Whether you're writing from nostalgia, faith, longing, or joy, the key is to create with intentionality and skill. When you pair heartfelt inspiration with craftsmanship, your holiday songs can stand out, connect deeply, and carry meaning far beyond the season.   Resources & Links:   Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.   Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com   Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training   NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Host: John Chisum Episode Title: JAMIE JAMGOCHIAN: Learning to Wait Well with God   Episode Summary: In this inspiring episode of the Song Revolution Podcast, host John Chisum welcomes singer-songwriter, worship leader, and author Jamie Jamgochian for a rich conversation about creativity, calling, spiritual formation, and her new book Sacred Surrender: The Practice of Waiting Well with God.   Jamie shares her personal journey from studying jazz at Berklee, to encountering Jesus at twenty-one, to navigating a decades-long career in Christian music as a Dove Award-nominated artist. She opens up about seasons of waiting, chronic illness, finding healing through quieter forms of worship, and discovering God's presence in silence and stillness. Together, John and Jamie explore the challenges of slowing down in a noisy culture, the practice of surrendering personal dreams, and the beauty of connecting with God through meditative music, spontaneous worship, and simple moments of presence. They also talk about mentoring younger artists, developing spiritual resilience, and writing from a place of honesty and trust.   What You'll Learn: The heart behind Jamie's new book Sacred Surrender How to wait on God with trust, peace, and purpose Why silence and stillness are essential for spiritual health How chronic illness reshaped Jamie's relationship with worship The difference between waiting on God and waiting with God How meditative music can bring healing, peace, and connection Why surrender is a daily practice, not a one-time moment The importance of community, mentorship, and staying grounded as an artist Practical advice for aspiring songwriters and worship leaders How to let God dream through you instead of forcing your own plans   Key Topics & Highlights: Jamie's early journey as a jazz-trained pianist and her conversion at twenty-one Life at Berklee, early performance career, and coming to faith Seasons of illness, including Lyme disease, and how quiet worship sustained her Creating piano meditations and spontaneous worship recordings The inspiration behind Sacred Surrender and the discipline of waiting well Learning to listen to God through silence, boredom, and stillness How surrender frees us from pressure, comparison, and unrealistic timelines Developing spiritual maturity and emotional health before chasing platform Jamie's heart for mentoring young female artists in Nashville Why honing your craft and creating your own opportunities matters Trusting God's timing over the industry's timeline   Final Thought: True transformation happens not in the spotlight but in the quiet spaces where surrender becomes a way of life. Jamie reminds us that walking with God means releasing our timelines, deepening our trust, and practicing presence daily. When we learn to wait well with God, we discover a richer, steadier, more grounded life—one where creativity flows from peace, not pressure.   Resources & Links: Keep up with all that Jamie is doing! https://www.jaimejam.com/   Check out Jamie's book, Sacred Surrender.  https://ffm.bio/sacredsurrender   Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.   Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com   Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training   NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Host: John Chisum Guest: Mary Lou Kayser Episode Title: The Power of Poetry   Episode Summary In this episode of Song Revolution, host John Chisum welcomes poet, author, and creative entrepreneur Mary Lou Kayser for a deeply moving and thought-provoking conversation on art, creativity, and what it means to live—and write—fully in a digital age. Mary Lou shares her journey as a teacher, writer, and poet, exploring how the rapid shift into the digital world impacts human connection and creativity. She opens up about loss, love, and the role poetry plays in healing and transformation, reading two poignant pieces from her poetry collections The Far Unlit Unknown and The River Only Runs One Way. Through her work and wisdom, Mary Lou challenges listeners to reconnect with their creative selves, embrace authenticity, and make peace with their past while courageously stepping into the unknown.   Key Topics & Highlights Life in Transition: How Mary Lou moved from teaching literature to fully embracing life as a writer and creative entrepreneur. The Digital Dilemma: Understanding how the algorithm era impacts art, purpose, and human connection. The Power of Poetry: Why poetry still matters—and how it can heal, illuminate, and connect us. Teaching and Transformation: Lessons from the classroom that shaped her creative voice and worldview. Loss and Renewal: How grief, love, and change inspired her collections The Far Unlit Unknown and The River Only Runs One Way. The Craft of Writing: The importance of revision, reflection, and returning to one's work with new eyes. Poetry vs. Songwriting: Exploring the similarities and differences between written verse and lyrical composition. The Courage to Create: Why waiting to share your art is the biggest mistake—and how to release your work fearlessly.   Memorable Quotes "Loneliness is a compass guiding you toward becoming more of who you've always been." – Mary Lou Kayser "If you are being called to create—don't wait. Time is always moving, and the river only runs one way." – Mary Lou Kayser "How can we expect to write beautiful words if we're not filled with them?" – John Chisum   Final Thought Mary Lou reminds us that art is not just about expression—it's about connection, transformation, and courage. Whether you're a poet, songwriter, or storyteller, your creativity is a bridge between the human and the divine. Don't wait for the "right" time. Create now, share freely, and trust the river to carry your words where they need to go.   Resources & Links:   Connect with Mary Lou Kayser and "Play Your Position" Podcast: maryloukayser.com   Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.   Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com   Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training     NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/

Song Revolution Podcast – Season 3   Episode Title: ED RODE: We Are All Storytellers   Guest: Ed Rode, Iconic Nashville Photographer and Author of "Songwriter: Musician Behind the Curtain with Nashville's Iconic Storytellers and Players" Host: John Chisum   Episode Summary In this visually rich and inspiring episode, host John Chisum sits down with celebrated photographer Ed Rode, whose lens has captured some of the most iconic figures in music—from Chet Atkins, Dolly Parton, and Willie Nelson to Taylor Swift and Vince Gill. Through his stunning photography and storytelling, Ed shares how a 35-year journey documenting Nashville's creative legends turned into his new coffee table book, Songwriter: Musician. Together, John and Ed explore the intersection of photography, songwriting, and storytelling, revealing how every frame—and every lyric—has the power to invite people into a meaningful moment. Ed reflects on the mentorship of Chet Atkins, his experiences photographing legends like Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton, and the emotional encounters that defined his career, including a powerful moment with Glen Campbell near the end of his life. This episode is a celebration of creativity in all forms and a reminder that great art—whether a photograph or a song—comes from deep observation, patience, and heart.   Key Topics & Highlights The Origins of Ed's Career: How a chance encounter with Chet Atkins led to decades of photographing music legends. Storytelling Across Mediums: Why photography and songwriting share the same DNA—inviting others into a moment. The Art of Capturing Authenticity: How Ed disarms his subjects to reveal the truest version of themselves. Mentorship and Mastery: What Ed learned from icons like Chet Atkins and why mentorship shapes creative excellence. The Soul of a Photograph: Behind-the-scenes stories with Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Loretta Lynn, and Glen Campbell. Work Ethic vs. Talent: The balance between natural ability, discipline, and the willingness to grow. Creativity in the Digital Age: Why true storytelling and human perspective can never be replaced by AI. Teaching and Giving Back: How Ed now passes on his craft as a photography instructor, continuing the cycle of creativity.   Final Takeaway Whether through a song or a photograph, creativity is about storytelling that connects hearts. Ed Rode's journey reminds us that art isn't just about talent—it's about persistence, curiosity, and the courage to see beauty in every fleeting moment. As he says, "We're all storytellers," and every story told from the heart has the power to inspire.   Resources & Links: Connect with Ed Rode edrode.com Book: Songwriter: Musician Behind the Curtain with Nashville's Iconic Storytellers and Players Available online and at the Country Music Hall of Fame Store.   Learn more: Visit NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com for songwriting resources, coaching, and community.   Learn more about Nashville Christian Songwriters: nashvillechristiansongwriters.com   Join the NCS Community for coaching, resources, and connection https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community   Join the NCS 2025 Songwriting Challenge – Download the free 31-page guide https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/challenge2025   Sign up for Free First Monday Songwriting Training https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/training     NCS Collective: Check out our artists! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/