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Welcome to The Gray Divorce Podcast. Join Divorce Financial Advisor and Retirement Planning Counsellor Andrew Hatherley and guest experts as they help late life divorcees build the financial foundation for a meaningful life after divorce. There is life after divorce!
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What happens when a divorce settlement looks perfect on paper—but falls apart at the mortgage desk? In Episode 87, Andrew Hatherley welcomes back Tami Wollensak, Certified Divorce Lending Professional and mortgage industry veteran, to explore one of the most overlooked risks in gray divorce: real estate financing after settlement. From mortgage assumptions and refinancing timelines to income qualification and retirement strategies, this episode reveals why planning before you sign...
Sex and intimacy don’t disappear with age, but they do change. Andrew Hatherley welcomes JenMG, intimacy coach and educator, for a candid conversation about sex, desire, and connection in midlife and beyond. From long-term marriages and sexless relationships to rediscovering pleasure after divorce, this episode explores how intimacy evolves with aging bodies, changing hormones, and deeper self-awareness, and how reclaiming it can transform life after gray divorce. Thanks for lis...
Why is January called “Divorce Month? Why do divorce filings spike in the new year? Andrew explains that marriages don’t suddenly fail in January—rather, many couples postpone action until the holidays are over. Contributing factors include: A “holiday truce” to avoid disrupting family traditions Financial stress from travel, gifts, and year-end expenses Increased time together that can intensify existing tensions To avoid a short-lived or poorly executed divorce st...
In Episode 84, Andrew talks with Amanda Mason, founder of the Solagree, about the innovative new approach to divorce that replaces courtroom battles with cooperation, predictability, and peace of mind. Amanda—an experienced family law attorney and creator of this groundbreaking process—shares how Solagree blends mediation, arbitration, and flat-fee transparency to help couples resolve their differences without ever stepping foot in court. Thanks for listening! We'd be very gratefu...
Would you help your ex if they needed you? In Episode 83, Andrew chats with Elizabeth Verwey, author of Brave New Endings: True Stories of Caring for an Ex, to discuss how people show care for former partners through illness, aging, and life’s unexpected challenges. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow Andrew on LinkedIn too!
When Oprah Winfrey dedicates an episode of her podcast to Gray Divorce, people pay attention. In Episode 82, Andrew Hatherley shares his reflections on Oprah’s recent discussion, “Gray Divorce and Adult Children: The Fallout for the Family,” offering insight into what the episode got right—and what it overlooked. From missing male voices to underexplored financial realities, Andrew breaks down the nuances of gray divorce that go beyond the television spotlight and into real life. ...
How do you handle the holidays after a late-life divorce? In Episode 81 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew Hatherley welcomes back Dr. Carol Hughes—renowned psychologist, mediator, and author of Home Will Never Be the Same Again—to discuss how individuals and families can navigate the emotional challenges of divorce during Thanksgiving, Christmas, and other meaningful seasons. This heartfelt conversation explores loneliness, boundaries, family traditions, and finding peace amidst chang...
Equity compensation—like restricted stock units (RSUs) and stock options—can be one of the most confusing (and valuable) assets in a divorce. In Episode 80, Andrew welcomes Laurie Itkin, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) and founder of The Options Lady, to demystify this complex topic. Laurie shares how equity compensation works, what divorcing couples need to know about taxes, vesting, and division, and the biggest mistakes to avoid when stock-based pay enters the marital bala...
How do you start one of the hardest conversations of your life—the one where you tell your spouse you want a divorce? In Episode 79, Andrew Hatherley speaks with family law attorney Alexandra Geczi, about the six steps to approaching this emotional and delicate moment with honesty, compassion, and clarity. From emotional preparation to timing and communication, Alex shares insights on how to minimize conflict, foster understanding, and set the stage for an amicable separation.&nbs...
Is political polarization just a national issue—or is it playing out in our marriages too? In Episode 78, Andrew Hatherley explores how today’s divisive political climate may be impacting relationships in later life. Through personal observations and expert insight, this episode asks: could our political obsessions be contributing to the rise in gray divorce? Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirem...
What if your financial plan didn’t start with your money, but with your life? In Episode 77, Andrew dives into the transformative power of life-centered financial planning, especially for those navigating the challenges of gray divorce. Discover how to prioritize purpose, relationships, and personal goals—without waiting for a “magic number” in your retirement account. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transce...
Andrew is joined by Lori Hawkins, a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert (CDRE™) and seasoned Realtor® who specializes in guiding divorcing couples through the emotionally charged process of selling the family home. With neutrality, clarity, and a client-centered approach, Lori ensures smoother transitions and smarter financial outcomes. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce S...
Life insurance is often misunderstood in the divorce process—especially in gray divorce. In Episode 75, Andrew breaks down how different types of life insurance play into divorce settlements, spousal support protection, and marital asset division. Whether you’re the one paying or receiving support, this episode will help you make smarter insurance decisions during divorce and beyond. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Pleas...
Andrew is joined by Melissa Farag, a family law mediator, former divorce litigator, and host of the High Vibe Divorce podcast. A recovering litigator turned compassionate conflict-resolution guide, Melissa brings a transformative approach to divorce through insight-based mediation. She shares how curiosity, emotional intelligence, and a non-adversarial mindset can change not only the divorce process—but the life that follows it. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subsc...
In this episode, Andrew breaks down the complexities of annuities in divorce—one of the most misunderstood and often mishandled assets in marital separation. Whether you’re receiving or dividing annuities, understanding how they’re taxed, valued, and distributed is key to securing a fair financial settlement. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow Andrew on Li...
Andrew is joined by Hirsch Serman, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst®, CPA, and trained mediator. Hirsch helps navigate the complex financial terrain of divorce with a values-based approach, empowering clients to take control of their financial future. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow Andrew on LinkedIn too!
In this solo episode, Andrew takes on the “F” word in divorce—and no, it’s not the one you think. While many professionals warn against using the word “fair,” Andrew digs deeper into another emotional force that holds even more power over midlife divorce: fear. Drawing from personal experience, neuroscience, and psychological research, Andrew explores how fear can intensify as we age, how it impacts our decision-making during divorce, and what we can do to move through it with more clar...
Andrew is joined by Certified Divorce Coach® James Traub. James helps men (and women) navigate the divorce process with clarity, emotional resilience, and purpose—especially those in midlife facing the complex realities of separation, identity shifts, and life after marriage. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow Andrew on LinkedIn too!
In this episode of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew tackles one of the most emotional and financially complex aspects of late-life divorce, the fate of the family home. From affordability to emotional attachment to tax implications, this episode offers a deep dive into how to make thoughtful, informed decisions about selling or keeping the house after divorce. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retire...
Andrew is joined by Certified life and mindset coach Nicole Comis. Nicole partners with her clients to break through unconscious patterns, strengthen their mindset, and build the clarity, confidence, and courage to go after what they truly want. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow Andrew on LinkedIn too!
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