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Two designers on opposite coasts talk their way through creativity, culture, and tech. It’s a podcast about everything except design, that somehow always ends up being about design.
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surf forecasting tools and building personal software, jacob’s 70’s surf rack archive and design lineage, figma config branding and pushing beyond the parent brand, using ai to study and learn through narrative instead of memorization, planning a retreat for type designers and the limits of structured “fun” https://www.infinitemachine.com/ https://jheftmann.github.io/wavekit/ https://config.figma.com/ Join our WBMN group chat on Output: https://wbmn.output.app/workspaces/join/c2c99415297b97e6...
This week we’re joined by Allan Yu, designer and co-founder of community messaging app, Output. He previously worked as an early designer at Svpply, a cult favorite among designers, and later at Google Labs, Meta, and Shopify. We talk on designer to founder reality checks, pivoting your startup (again and again), Svpply nostalgia, type foundry UX rants, building a Discord for normal people, design craft vs shipping product, venture-backed startup pressure, fake users testing your produc...
Robot vacuum fleets, Claude code experiments, Personal SaaSpocalypse, closed loop design workflows, building before designing, design is the bottleneck, pushing to prod, the death of wireframes, grey box trauma, and unlearning the process. Join our WBMN group chat on Output: https://wbmn.output.app/workspaces/join/c2c99415297b97e6dfc0 David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-found...
Ive's Ferrari collab, tactile design, electric performance, AI copycats, creative IP, opt-in consent, database tools vs model training, human-washed tech, the Granola rebrand, analog aesthetics, faux authenticity, proof of humanity, OpenAI vs Anthropic, authenticity vs costume. Jony Ive x Ferrari https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/ferrari-luce-jony-ive-marc-newson-lovefrom/ Stripe Sessions: Jony Ive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLb9g_8r-mE Granola Rebrand https://www.granola.ai/blog/a-new-l...
How to pay off sleep debt, ancient internships, should designers c*de? design engineers, teaching at RISD and Parsons, experimental branding briefs and constraint-led projects, what design school doesn’t teach, archives versus mood boards, Arena as a second brain, collecting and scanning physical references, folk packaging and diner placemats, obscure illustrators and forgotten ephemera, taste as something you build over time, trend reports and in–out lists, writing as a way of thinking, prin...
The 52" monitor, home-cooked software, claude code, vibe coding, personal tools, craft, authenticity and imperfection, authorship and taste, designing without scale, having an independent design practice, freelancing vs studios, building a career on your own terms. Tesla Optimus Fail https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1pfzxt0/tesla_optimus/ Dell's Big Boy https://www.engadget.com/computing/dell-unveils-a-massive-52-inch-6k-ultrawide-curved-monitor-at-ces-2026-140024842.html Peop...
Snowstorms in the Catskills, Jacob’s month on the North Shore, selling the Audi and becoming a full-time Subaru guy, mechanics doing power slides in your car, talking lamps and unhinged home robots, Terminator bots and the sci-fi week online, Apple entering a new design era, Google’s Nano-Banana and AI faking sketchbooks, Bloom and the rise of brand-asset generators, the new CNBC logo mess, Utah 2034 and the puzzle of future-proof Olympic branding, the icons of Olympic identity from Mexico 68...
Ten foot skeletons, Gen Z nonchalance vs. Millennial effortfulness, Zohran's campaign design, Al Gore was the worst client. Links mentioned in the show Zohran Mamdani’s Campaign Logo Looked Nothing Like a Campaign Logo https://www.curbed.com/article/zohran-mamdani-campaign-logo-graphic-design.html Fully automated 'private chef' https://x.com/miyuselene/status/1982517846124192011?s=20 NEO home robot https://www.1x.tech/neo Join our WBMN group chat on Output: https://wbmn.output.ap...
Surfing in Mexico, Gap is back, having a personal ‘uniform’, Electric Bikes, NYC Subway design, AI slop (oh no), edible rocks, 90’s ad agency offices, naming things. Join our WBMN group chat on Output: https://wbmn.output.app/workspaces/join/c2c99415297b97e6dfc0 David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. ...
New Grillitype launches, social battery collapse, Palermo wedding gossip, buying a 2008 Subaru on Facebook Marketplace, DMV purgatory, LL Bean collab trim, new iPhone and AirPods takes, AI brand builders, Jacob hates moodboards, designer existentialism Join our WBMN group chat on Output: https://wbmn.output.app/workspaces/join/c2c99415297b97e6dfc0 David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He ...
Catskills nervous system reset, tiny New York party memories, birthday art pilgrimages, Mass MoCA, basic-taste art confessions, work-life blur, Apple event ambivalence, light-phone fantasies Join our WBMN group chat on Output: https://wbmn.output.app/workspaces/join/c2c99415297b97e6dfc0 David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design s...
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